View Full Version : wtf happened to the other psychotropics forum?
darkside
06-13-2006, 05:01 PM
i just noticed that it was gone from the list. why? it was useful and informative.what happened?
minnesota man
06-13-2006, 05:21 PM
There have been a few posts regarding this in the Feedback and Suggestions section. It's to bad but I guess sundance can do what he wants.
ukmonkey
06-13-2006, 06:25 PM
Yeah I agree, why let inevitable discussion of other drugs clog up the main forums. I
enthused
06-13-2006, 06:36 PM
Yeh that was my favorite forum actually....sigh..
HazardousToking
06-13-2006, 10:20 PM
Fucking ridiculous nazis
Heil Sundance!!
:( Now come on people there is no reason to get nasty cos at the end of the day whats done is done. There was threads done in relation to the closesure of that. This is a cannabis site and we would like to keep the topics based on cannabis not other drugs.:cool:
Inferius
06-13-2006, 10:57 PM
but... cannabis smokers are part of a drug culture in general... it's not right to cut off the rest of the culture. That was my favorite forum... But hey there's always 420.me.uk forums... Much better, but also not as many members.
And they don't have nazi moderators.:thumbsup:
thcbongman
06-13-2006, 10:58 PM
I'm normally really cool about how moderating is done, but it's starting to get a little extreme......
:mad: None of the MODS here are Nazis and there really is no reason for name calling. This is not a action done by the MODS it was carried out by ADMIN, and at the end of the day its their site so its their call on how they would like to see it run. If you go to the feedback section all is explained in there.
thcbongman
06-13-2006, 11:23 PM
Obviously we have to deal with it.
However, you never saw me begging to overturn someone's ban or nit-picked and complained about every little thing that doesn't go my way. I'm sure I complained a couple times about something but I been noticing a pattern of a culture change, and frankly I'm not going to just sit back and not voice my opinion. I'm aware this is not a democracy, but obviously a lot of veterans here have complaints about these changes. If the new owner doesn't take an ounce of consideration of what old heads have to say, well he can be like the control-freak trying to overregulate a party. Who would want to come back again?
I liken this to the behavior of a corporate merger operating on the interests of themselves, without meriting the consideration of others. I find it a little sickening to see this on cannabis.com.
HazardousToking
06-13-2006, 11:42 PM
eh go figure.....
psychedelics and cannabis go hand in hand with each other, they are siblings...
whats this about 420.me.uk forums?/?
Awill3449
06-14-2006, 12:23 AM
:mad: None of the MODS here are Nazis and there really is no reason for name calling. This is not a action done by the MODS it was carried out by ADMIN, and at the end of the day its their site so its their call on how they would like to see it run. If you go to the feedback section all is explained in there.
I haven't been around in a while, so I must have missed this.
Is non-cannabis talk allowed? Or is this site weed only now (like marijuana.com). I sort of liked the openess here...
slipknotpsycho
06-14-2006, 12:36 AM
ok can we all look at one fact here? the mods are doing a (not that it's really relevant to this post, but VOLUNTEER) job, technially (atleast i'm pretty damn sure) they don't really have any garunteed say (not trying to say the mods don't have a word in what actually goes down, as they've pointed out in another thread, there's atleast one thing that the mods and the administration collaberate on to make a decision together) in what goes down, they are just doing what they are told to do, so stop saying mods this and mods that, cuz it's begining to get aggervating. i mean seriously, do you people really assume that just because they have some authority, over some things, that they have complete authority over everything? or is it because their the only ones that will respond to your bitching/complaining?
maybe this hasn't already been clear, maybe you need to hear it from just another member, the forum is gone, it's not coming back, no ammount of complaining, or even giving viable reasons, is going to bring it back, so lets just let it go, those that found it so valuable that now cannabis.com is ruined, have the complete and full ability AND approval to leave for that reason, for the rest of us, lets just try to cope with it and move on ok?
slipknotpsycho
06-14-2006, 12:39 AM
I haven't been around in a while, so I must have missed this.
Is non-cannabis talk allowed? Or is this site weed only now (like marijuana.com). I sort of liked the openess here...
i can't remember the exact wording, but it is lightly tollerated, as in, you may talk about things other than cannabis, but if the admin/mods see it 'unfit' (i'm sure they're not going to be TOO hard on it) it will be removed, ask your questions or tell your stories, but don't get mad if you find it's gone tommorow.
another point i would like to point out, half the 'bitchers' aren't even cafe members, so wtf? the way i see it, only and i mean ONLY the people that pay or have paid money to this site DIRECTLY (the links often on it, obviously do not count, even if they take a certain percentage of the money because they are afterall, the ones that brought said site the buisness) are the only ones who really have anything to complain about, when it comes to this whole issue, they are paying for something, and it is being changed, perhaps they only paid for that part, therefore giving them a reason to complain, for the rest, suck it up and deal with it.
Psycho4Bud
06-14-2006, 12:50 AM
eh go figure.....
psychedelics and cannabis go hand in hand with each other, they are siblings...
whats this about 420.me.uk forums?/?
LOL....Unreal! So your basically confirming the belief that marijuana leads to harder drugs? Maybe in your world, not mine.
Have a good one!:thumbsup:
Psycho4Bud
06-14-2006, 12:56 AM
THANK YOU slipknotpsycho!!! Well stated! The mods are informed about "possible" changes and give our two cents regarding what may or may not happen but ultimately it is the OWNERS decision as to what is done in here. Hell, it was even posted to out to get the forums opinions regarding it. That REALLY sounds like a "nazi" tactic to me. Some people should just mellow out a bit.
Have a good one!:thumbsup:
slipknotpsycho
06-14-2006, 12:58 AM
LOL....Unreal! So your basically confirming the belief that marijuana leads to harder drugs? Maybe in your world, not mine.
Have a good one!:thumbsup:
maybe some of these people aren't looking for a cannabis forum, and are rather looking for a 'drug' forum... i think i do stand behind the decisions for change, because even if i'm not right about why i said i think things are changing (look here if intrested (http://boards.cannabis.com/showthread.php?p=818653)) it's still a move towards pro-marijuana IMO... and any move that's pro-marijuana i will back, unless it goes against my morals, and the loss of a psychotropics forum is anything but against my morals.
thcbongman
06-14-2006, 01:10 AM
While it's plausable, at least in my mind I'm not looking for a "drug" forum. There are a number of forums that deal towards that.
Some potheads like transcendental experiences, but are more apart of the cannabis culture. That's my 2cents.
It isn't worth complaining further, I was already aware it's ultimately the owner's decision, he/she can do whatever they want with their money.
Psycho4Bud
06-14-2006, 01:15 AM
maybe some of these people aren't looking for a cannabis forum, and are rather looking for a 'drug' forum... i think i do stand behind the decisions for change, because even if i'm not right about why i said i think things are changing (look here if intrested (http://boards.cannabis.com/showthread.php?p=818653)) it's still a move towards pro-marijuana IMO... and any move that's pro-marijuana i will back, unless it goes against my morals, and the loss of a psychotropics forum is anything but against my morals.
I hear ya, and it WAS nice in a way....two, two, two mints in one. But for now, there is no more chocolate in my peanut butter. LOL
Have a good one!:thumbsup:
harmonicminor
06-14-2006, 01:17 AM
maybe some of these people aren't looking for a cannabis forum, and are rather looking for a 'drug' forum... i think i do stand behind the decisions for change, because even if i'm not right about why i said i think things are changing (look here if intrested (http://boards.cannabis.com/showthread.php?p=818653)) it's still a move towards pro-marijuana IMO... and any move that's pro-marijuana i will back, unless it goes against my morals, and the loss of a psychotropics forum is anything but against my morals.
to me, other psycotropics arent drugs
to me drugs are manmade or purified chemicals
while theres a lot of harmfull "drugs" out there, there is also a lot of harmless "if used right" entheogens out there
would you rather one of your kids go buy crack or heroin on the street because they werent properly informed?
slipknotpsycho
06-14-2006, 01:20 AM
While it's plausable, at least in my mind I'm not looking for a "drug" forum. There are a number of forums that deal towards that.
Some potheads like transcendental experiences, but are more apart of the cannabis culture. That's my 2cents.
It isn't worth complaining further, I was already aware it's ultimately the owner's decision, he/she can do whatever they want with their money.
ahh.. but that's what seperates you from the 'bitchers' you realize there's noting you can do and 'whatever' it rather than draw some long discussion/complaint on it, you also, are posting something other then "you fuckers how dare you close something that is yours" (sorry, again i just had to point out the fact that very few people actually have control/decision over what's happening)
while your points are very valid, there's still nothing we can really do about it but accept it and move on, unfortunately... (there did seem to be alot of people who held that paticular forum for alot more then the rest of us, and i really do hate to see someone so comftorable in one forum, to be forced to move or leave the site all together, especially someone with status such as Nullific and the rest of the cann.com regs.)
Its a Plant
06-14-2006, 01:27 AM
Man I'm a little sad now.
I still find myself scrolling down to that section really fast like I used to, but not anymore. It's fine though, I respect any decision made here, and you just gotta deal with it and move on. I will say that if this "non-cannabis" talk rule is true, then why in the hell do I already see threads like "Do steroids give you acne?" I don't care either way, but if a rule is made, make it apply to everything.
Love.
slipknotpsycho
06-14-2006, 01:28 AM
to me, other psycotropics arent drugs
to me drugs are manmade or purified chemicals
while theres a lot of harmfull "drugs" out there, there is also a lot of harmless "if used right" entheogens out there
would you rather one of your kids go buy crack or heroin on the street because they werent properly informed?
just becuase ONE forum, on ONE site closed down hardly justifies everyone will be mis-informed, 2nd of all, i will inform my kid, of any and all drugs, i'm not going to conviently hide shit from them, as alot of parents authoritive figures seem to do today, when and if my kid asks me about Tripple c's (for example) i WILL tell him it's the most amazing high I have ever had, i also won't keep from him the real dangers, and exactly what it does to your body, hid from him. i want my kid to know EVERYTHING he can possibly know about a drug, rather than just tell him what's convienent for my stand point(view i see drugs as whether it be against them, neutral or for them.)
slipknotpsycho
06-14-2006, 01:34 AM
Man I'm a little sad now.
I still find myself scrolling down to that section really fast like I used to, but not anymore. It's fine though, I respect any decision made here, and you just gotta deal with it and move on. I will say that if this "non-cannabis" talk rule is true, then why in the hell do I already see threads like "Do steroids give you acne?" I don't care either way, but if a rule is made, make it apply to everything.
Love.
that's because the rule isn't true, while things will be taken more seriously and more topics/threads will be removed, even the new owner(s) (sundance i'm pretty sure?) has said himself/herself that other drug talk will be tollerated, just not as much as before.
oh yeah, something i forgot from my last post, to the right people, even cannabis is a drug, and someone's already confirmed this site is becoming more parent/LOE friendly, while you may not view them, or even cannabis as a 'drug' other people do, and if you read back over this last line, you will see cannabis.com is becoming more 'acceptable' to them, if that means a forum here and there, or even free speach needs to go, then so be it, maybe the rest of you don't want legalization in the long run, alot of us, with mature sights in goal, DO, again, if you don't like it here, leave, otherwise, stop already you aren't doing anything stirring up debate that is going to help absolutely nothing.
puffpuffand away
06-14-2006, 01:46 AM
:mad: None of the MODS here are Nazis and there really is no reason for name calling. This is not a action done by the MODS it was carried out by ADMIN, and at the end of the day its their site so its their call on how they would like to see it run. If you go to the feedback section all is explained in there.
keep up the good work, mods...u r appreciated
Euphoric
06-14-2006, 01:54 AM
some of the threads could of been incriminating, under the right circumstances. It was a slight liability.
It is cannabis.com, i can understand why theyd want to limit discussions to only cannabis, especially considering the "gateway drug" myth that is so prevalent with mass media.
This is good for everyone because it makes cannabis.com more "radio friendly" and will boost traffic to less popular drug specific boards across the web (i.e. shrooms.com, lsd.com ect)
harmonicminor
06-14-2006, 01:55 AM
just becuase ONE forum, on ONE site closed down hardly justifies everyone will be mis-informed, 2nd of all, i will inform my kid, of any and all drugs, i'm not going to conviently hide shit from them, as alot of parents authoritive figures seem to do today, when and if my kid asks me about Tripple c's (for example) i WILL tell him it's the most amazing high I have ever had, i also won't keep from him the real dangers, and exactly what it does to your body, hid from him. i want my kid to know EVERYTHING he can possibly know about a drug, rather than just tell him what's convienent for my stand point(view i see drugs as whether it be against them, neutral or for them.)
right on bro,
but most kids dont have that and they learn from thier peers. A lot of my "peers" are now addicts
puffpuffand away
06-14-2006, 01:56 AM
LOL....Unreal! So your basically confirming the belief that marijuana leads to harder drugs? Maybe in your world, not mine.
Have a good one!:thumbsup:
wasnt in my world either...
harmonicminor
06-14-2006, 01:59 AM
some of the threads could of been incriminating, under the right circumstances. It was a slight liability.
yeah specially the grow pics with the traceable IP addresses :thumbsup:
radio friendly????
not with the good ole USA shitting on the constitution
I dont mean to sound like I'm arguing
I am just trying to point out a different view thats all
thcbongman
06-14-2006, 02:04 AM
yeah specially the grow pics with the traceable IP addresses :thumbsup:
radio friendly????
not with the good ole USA shitting on the constitution
I dont mean to sound like I'm arguing
I am just trying to point out a different view thats all
There's freedom of speech and then tagging at McDonalds, saying Vegtables are good for your health.
Think of it that way. Their house, their rules.
Mingles
06-14-2006, 03:39 AM
OK playing devil's advocate here, but Marijuana is not a drug, its a plant. 100% natural. Psychotropics and the like are in fact drugs, man-made and otherwise, and aren't exactly cannibus, which is what the site is named for after all
ghandi
06-14-2006, 11:35 AM
So weed isn't a drug but shrooms are? :s
Maui Wowie
06-14-2006, 11:55 AM
Obviously we have to deal with it.
However, you never saw me begging to overturn someone's ban or nit-picked and complained about every little thing that doesn't go my way. I'm sure I complained a couple times about something but I been noticing a pattern of a culture change, and frankly I'm not going to just sit back and not voice my opinion. I'm aware this is not a democracy, but obviously a lot of veterans here have complaints about these changes. If the new owner doesn't take an ounce of consideration of what old heads have to say, well he can be like the control-freak trying to overregulate a party. Who would want to come back again?
I liken this to the behavior of a corporate merger operating on the interests of themselves, without meriting the consideration of others. I find it a little sickening to see this on cannabis.com.
Agreed to the max, x2.
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