Talent?

[The Grim Reefer]

Does it come naturally?
Does talent truly exist?

I've been thinking about talent and what it actually means, not justified by the dictionary, but is there even such a thing?

Can't we all learn and do whatever we want if we apply ourselves enough?

Do skills come easier to some people due to natural ability or simply the way they percieve things?

Is it a thought out process? Is it instinct and reflexes? Is it practice and dedication?

You decide.

Go ahead now, talk amongst yourselves.

[Towelie]

I beleive I have a talent for at Golf for some reason its comes easier fo rme I dont know maybe I am just lucky.

[crudemood]

i think we're all talented in everything but some more than others in certain things. So in conclusion, talent comes in various degrees whether you're better at it than someone else.

[Stellar]

Natural talent only goes so far. I've never met someone who just started something that was anywhere near as good as a master in the field.
Instruments, games, growing plants, etc. You can have all the beginner's luck you want, but experience will be the deciding factor in how talented you really become at something, in my opinion.

Natural talent probably exists. I feel as if I'm equally mediocre at everything I do that I haven't devoted much time and effort into. I've got the case of perpetual beginner's luck, so to speak. However, like I tried to say, natural talent really only goes so far. I find devotion and genuine care for whatever concept we try to get into is more important han whether or not we're a razor's edge better at that thing we just started to do than our friend might be that just started doing it with us.

I take a long time to learn everything, because, there's really no end to any art form, only dull tasks have an end. You're talented when you know you are capable of more than you just accomplished.

[The Grim Reefer]

Nice reply stellar, I take a long time learning everything as well.

I like to learn it inside and out, backwards and forward, color/smell/shape ect.

I want to be able to know all of the "hard" facts about whatever I'm learning as well before diving in too far.

I also sometimes wonder if our own search for knowledge sometimes holds us back.. anyway, anymore responses?

[Stellar]

Searching for knowledge can only be hindering depending on how you apply what you learn, imo.

Most concrete sources like written documents or videos hit a dead end. They really only give you the information about the experience of one person or groups of people when it comes to something.

If I learn something, write it down, and give it away, I kind of think I am giving away the experience, not the talent. If someone takes what i made and wrote down and considers it the end-all-be-all to the subject, then yeah, maybe their search for knowledge does hinder them.

I think everyone suffers from that a little at some point. They think they find the best way to do something and really just keep doing it like that. Its a slow way to kill art... By just never taking what you want to do any further than someone else did. Talent needs creativity to survive, imo.

Some things are art and sciences at the same time, though. Like growing plants. There are right and wrong ways to go about that. Some ways exist in documentation that are just simply perfect. But, in playing an instrument, sometimes you can just totally fuck it all up and find something great in it. Talent is kinda fucked up that way... Sometimes you think you've got the best way to go about thinking about how things should be done based on how you think you're talented one way... Turns out that shit doesn't always drive on the same highway. I've had to learn a couple things like that.

I like to just cummulate everything I can about everything I do. Sometimes, you can add one thing to an already solid recipe and do things better than someone else. One of the key tricks to this, I think, is knowing as much as you can and geting as much experience with everything you know. Sometimes, you'll know a trick the other guy didn't use. I guess all you can call my version talent is knowledge, really?

[Its a Plant]

In sports, most "natural talent" is simply a display of awsome hand-eye cordination, soft hands for catching, loose hips for moves, and so on. Sure those are all insignificant examples, but the little things sure seperate the good from the great. It's that special touch that gives the stars their place in their respected sports. MJ has that touch, same with Tiger. Even something as small as how Tiger's hips move make him the star he is. It's those natural abilities that build talent. Talent to me is a combination of ability and practice, like said earlier.