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Toker4LifeVT
06-08-2006, 09:31 AM
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Abu Musab al-Zarqawi Killed in U.S. Air Strike
By PATRICK QUINN, AP

BAGHDAD, Iraq (June 8) - Abu Musab al-Zarqawi, al-Qaida's leader in Iraq who led a bloody campaign of suicide bombings and kidnappings, has been killed in an air strike, U.S. and Iraqi officials said Thursday, adding his identity was confirmed by fingerprints and a first-hand look at his face. It was a major victory in the U.S.-led war in Iraq and the broader war on terror.

Prime Minister Nouri al-Maliki said al-Zarqawi was killed along with seven aides Wednesday evening in a in a remote area 30 miles northeast of Baghdad, in the volatile province of Diyala, just east of the provincial capital of Baqouba, al-Maliki said.

Loud applause broke out as al-Maliki, flanked by U.S. Ambassador Zalmay Khalilzad and U.S. Gen. George Casey, the top U.S. commander in Iraq, told reporters at a news conference that "al-Zarqawi was eliminated."

The announcement came six days after the Jordanian-born terror leader issued an audiotape on the Internet, railing against Shiites in Iraq and saying militias are raping women and killing Sunnis and the community must fight back.

Al-Maliki said the air strike was the result of intelligence reports provided to Iraqi security forces by residents in the area, and U.S. forces acted on the information.

Baqouba has in recent weeks seen a spike in sectarian violence, including the discovery of 17 severed heads discovered in fruit boxes. It was also near the site of a sectarian atrocity last week when masked gunmen killed 21 Shiites, including a dozen students, after separating out a four Sunni Arabs.

"Those who disrupt the course of life, like al-Zarqawi, will have a tragic end," al-Maliki said. He also warned those who would follow the militant's lead that "whenever there is a new al-Zarqawi, we will kill him."

"This is a message for all those who embrace violence, killing and destruction to stop and to (retreat) before it's too late," he said. "It is an open battle with all those who incite sectarianism."

Khalilzad added "the death of Abu Musab al-Zarqawi is a huge success for Iraq and the international war on terror." He also gave a thumbs up and said it was a good day for America.

Casey said the hunt for al-Zarqawi began in the area two weeks ago, and al- Zarqawi's body was identified by fingerprints and facial recognition.

The Jordanian-born militant, who is believed to have personally beheaded at least two American hostages, became Iraq's most wanted militant, as notorious as Osama bin Laden, to whom he swore allegiance in 2004. The United States put a US$25 million (about euro20 million) bounty on al-Zarqawi, the same as bin Laden.

U.S. forces in Iraq said the killing was a major victory.

"We killed him, and it's always great when you can remove someone that has caused this much harm," said Maj. Frank Garcia, public affairs officer for the 2nd Brigade Combat Team, 101st Airborne Division. "We're one step closer to providing stability to the region."

Iraqis had mixed reactions.

Thamir Abdulhussein, a college student in Baghdad, said he hopes the killing of al- Zarqawi will promote reconciliation between Iraq's fractured ethnic and sectarian groups.

"If it's true al-Zarqawi was killed, that will be a big happiness for all the Iraqis," he said. "He was behind all the killings of Sunni and Shiites. Iraqis should now move toward reconciliation. They should stop the violence."

Amir Muhammed Ali, a 45-year-old stock broker in Baghdad, was skeptical that al-Zarqawi's death would end the unrelenting violence in the country, saying he was a foreigner but the Iraqi resistance to U.S.-led forces would likely continue.

"He didn't represent the resistance, some one will replace him and the operations will go on," he said.

In the past year, al-Zarqawi moved his campaign beyond Iraq's borders, claiming to have carried out a Nov. 9, 2005 triple suicide bombing against hotels in Amman that killed 60 people, as well as other attacks in Jordan and even a rocket attack from Lebanon into northern Israel.

U.S. forces and their allies came close to capturing al-Zarqawi several times since his campaign began in mid-2003.

His closest brush may have come in late 2004. Deputy Interior Ministry Maj. Gen. Hussein Kamal said Iraqi security forces caught al-Zarqawi near the insurgent stronghold of Fallujah but then released him because they didn't realize who he was.

In May 2005, Web statements by his group said al-Zarqawi had been wounded in fighting with Americans and was being treated in a hospital abroad - raising speculation over a successor among his lieutenants. But days later, a statement said al- Zarqawi was fine and had returned to Iraq. There was never any independent confirmation of the reports of his wounding.

U.S. forces believe they just missed capturing al-Zarqawi in a Feb. 20, 2005 raid in which troops closed in on his vehicle west of Baghdad near the Euphrates River. His driver and another associate were captured and al- Zarqawi's computer was seized along with pistols and ammunition.

U.S. troops twice launched massive invasions of Fallujah, the stronghold used by al-Qaida in Iraq fighters and other insurgents west of Baghdad. An April 2004 offensive left the city still in insurgent hands, but the October 2004 assault wrested it from them. However, al- Zarqawi - if he was in the city - escaped.


06-08-06 05:56 EDT

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Psycho4Bud
06-08-2006, 10:15 AM
I think about this time Allah's informing him that he screwed up....

Little boy your going to hell!!

Toker4LifeVT, I think you deserve an award for thread of the year!!

Have a good one!:thumbsup:

Shelbay
06-08-2006, 11:03 AM
Great..with all the neg. reports on the U.S. maybe this will improve moral for our people....hard to believe they had him before and let him go..well I guess he knows by now if there is hell to reside in.

Psycho4Bud
06-08-2006, 11:47 AM
Here's the bad boy that they say took him out:thumbsup: :
http://www.army-technology.com/projects/predator/

Torog
06-08-2006, 12:02 PM
Howdy Y'all !

This is great news !! Yeeehhhaaawww !!!! :D :dance:

We can win in Iraq,if we stay the course and this goes to show ya--you can run...but eventually our troops will find ya ! I hope Usama is next ! :thumbsup:

Thanx Toker4Life,for posting this article,ya beat me to it ! lol

Have a good one ! :stoned:

PS: How dissappointed do ya reckon that the MSM and our liberal friends here,will be over this great news ?

bhallg2k
06-08-2006, 12:10 PM
PS: How dissappointed do ya reckon that the MSM and our liberal friends here,will be over this great news ?

How ignorant.

Psycho4Bud
06-08-2006, 01:00 PM
First reports were wrong...it was an F-16 with two 500# bombs.

Mission Accomplished!:thumbsup:

beachguy in thongs
06-08-2006, 01:05 PM
But, Zarqawi is dead.

beachguy in thongs
06-08-2006, 01:07 PM
Killed in airstrike with 7 aides. They took fingerprints and confirmed it.

graymatter
06-08-2006, 01:11 PM
That's what happens to terrorists that get fat and slow... Unfortunately, there's a zillion more waiting to take his place, and most of them don't live in Iraq. :(

birdgirl73
06-08-2006, 01:33 PM
I'm not disappointed at all. I'm glad. But I think GrayM's right. There are a million more just like him waiting to take his place. And they'll be even angrier and crazier when they do.

minnesota man
06-08-2006, 02:15 PM
This post is heading to political so I might as well get political.

Obviously, the Bush haters are in a tizzy. Too bad they can't share in our happiness that a ruthless killer and brilliant organizer has been laid to rest.

What's that? His death will only spring up 1,000 more al-Zawrqawis. Hope away fools.

Myth1184
06-08-2006, 02:48 PM
so tw f-16's gave him a first class ticket to hell eh. Hope he enjoys his Virgins

beachguy in thongs
06-08-2006, 03:12 PM
Lol. :smokin:

So, what are your feelings on bush?

stangle12
06-08-2006, 03:15 PM
We didnt get shit. Zarquairi was demoted.
they put him out to be caught. we've accomplished nothing.
WOOOO

stangle12
06-08-2006, 03:15 PM
its like catching the goose that lays the golden egg after it goes through menopaus.

minnesota man
06-08-2006, 03:41 PM
Well, I don't hate anybody.

I think it's a good thing Al-Zarqawi is dead. I am very happy about it. I watched the Nick Berg decapitation.

I think once the terrorists were strapping bombs on the kids, that was as low as you can go. So I don't see the war as making things worse.

Obviously, the Bush haters do not like this news because it favors Bush, their enemy.

I'm not a Bush cheerleader. I recognize his lack of ability to use the media to gather support. The media shows you his failures and looks over his accomplishments. And when one of his accomplishments like killing al-Zarqawi is so glaringly positive for him, the media gets tripped up and starts acting like a malfunctioning robot. "Does not compute. Does not compute."

Generally I'm opposite of what the media tells me to think.

I have more opinions but that's enough for now. These are just my opinions. I'm not arguing facts.

What do you think?

Bong30
06-08-2006, 03:44 PM
That is great news...........

minnesota man
06-08-2006, 04:01 PM
I posted my thoughts here:

http://boards.cannabis.com/showthread.php?t=68911

Sounds like some people are upset. Aww. I'm sorry you can't stand it when Bush accomplishes something.

Hope away. I'm still waiting on the 1,000 Sadam Husseins.

Stangle, do you have any information about Zarqawi's demotion or is that just how your mind justifies your beliefs.

minnesota man
06-08-2006, 04:13 PM
How ignorant.

Huh. Maybe you should read the writing in this thread. The Bush haters are not upset, they're only wishing for 1,000's more.

bhallg2k
06-08-2006, 05:05 PM
Huh. Maybe you should read the writing in this thread. The Bush haters are not upset, they're only wishing for 1,000's more.

Saying that 1,000 more will pop up and wishing that to be are two entirely different things. One is a statement of opinion that it will happen, the other is a desire for it to happen.

I've read nowhere on this thread, or anywhere else for that matter, where someone has stated that they desire more terrorist leaders to take al-Zarqawi's place. All that has been stated is the reality that it will happen.

So I say again: How ignorant.

minnesota man
06-08-2006, 05:25 PM
OK, seriously, your av is wicked.

To the point, I believe you are saying that it is ignorant to think that many liberals or democrats or progressives are upset that Zarqawi is dead.

It is my belief that they are upset. I absorb tons of media primarily from the web and the radio. I especially enjoy listening to Air America Radio. If you turn Air America on today, you will hear how nothing was accomplished with Zarqawi's death. Several times I have heard "callers" or "concerned citizens" express their wish to let Bush lie in his own mess in Iraq. I take this as a wish for Iraq to fall apart.

Am I correct in believing many libs, dems, progs are wringing their hands in frustration? Or am I simply "ignorant"?

Psycho4Bud
06-08-2006, 05:32 PM
You want to talk ignorant.....here's good ol' infowars with alex jones.......

Pentagon Jettisons US Agent Provocateur Al-Zarqawi
http://www.infowars.com/articles/iraq/zarq_jettison.htm

How bout Al-Jazeera making him a martyr?

Al-Zarqawi family reacts to the news
http://english.aljazeera.net/NR/exeres/391DEB60-34D8-4139-8388-C3A64C0F4474.htm

Same mind from opposite sides of the world.:cool:

minnesota man
06-08-2006, 05:43 PM
Hey man, I'd really like to expand this convo. Either here or privately.

[email protected]

eg420ne
06-08-2006, 05:47 PM
YAY so how many times has he been killed...at least this time they know for sure

Psycho4Bud
06-08-2006, 05:53 PM
Hey man, I'd really like to expand this convo. Either here or privately.

[email protected]

I'm sittin' in chat if your still around.

have a good one!:thumbsup:

bhallg2k
06-08-2006, 05:53 PM
I'm liberal and I'm not frustrated at all by al-Zarqawi's death. I say good riddance to anyone who uses terrorism as a means to an end.

I am, however, a little concerned by the Pentagon showing videos of the bombing and images of his dead body. I understand that certain people must be given direct evidence of his death. But I also know that this is exactly the kind of thing that will aid other terrorist leaders in escalating attacks and recruiting more members.

And for clarification: No, I do not wish to see an escalation in the frequency of terrorist attacks or an increase in members of the insurgency. I feel like I have to say that because many people on the other side of the aisle view critical comments as support for the enemy. Hence my "ignorant" comment earlier.


How bout Al-Jazeera making him a martyr?

Al-Zarqawi family reacts to the news
http://english.aljazeera.net/NR/exeres/391DEB60-34D8-4139-8388-C3A64C0F4474.htm


And come on, man. Did you even read the article? It was al-Zarqawi's older brother who said he was now a martyr, not al-Jazeera. I'm not one to defend al-Jazeera's journalistic integrity, but I will call bullshit when someone is trying to mislead.

Psycho4Bud
06-08-2006, 06:00 PM
I read it....Al-Jazeera printed it....find me another paper doing the same? As far as showing the body...I agree in a way but hey, people WATCHED planes being flown into the WTC and still say that it REALLY didn't happen that way.

Have a good one!:thumbsup:

eg420ne
06-08-2006, 06:23 PM
http://www.strategypage.com/htmw/htmurph/articles/20060607.aspx
Zarqawi Scheduled for Martyrdom

June 7, 2006: The relationship between terrorist leader Abu Musab al Zarqawi and and the mainline al Qaeda leadership continues to deteriorate. Zarqawi's recent audio messages have not only attacked the U.S. and the Shia-dominated government in Iraq, but also Iran. He's even claiming that the U.S., Iran, and Shia in general, are in cahoots to destroy Islam. He has also called for continued attacks against Shia.



Except for his verbal attacks on the U.S. and the Iraqi government, he is almost totally distanced himself from the central leadership. Other al Qaeda leaders have been trying to down play anti-Iranian and anti-Shia rhetoric, and have been strongly discouraging attacks on civilians.



Given that Zarqawi has become a loose cannon and that his actions are handicapping Al Qaeda's efforts, it seems reasonable to expect that an accident may befall him at some point in the near future. If handled right it can be made to look like he went out in a blaze of glory fighting American troops or that he was foully murdered. Either way, al Qaeda gets rid of a problem and gains another "martyr."

minnesota man
06-08-2006, 06:32 PM
Yeah, I'm sure he will be remembered. As far as knowing the relationship between al-qaida and zarqawi, I still believe it is a moral blow to their organizations just as today will be remembered as a moral victory for us and our troops.

Ignore me all you want edge240ne. At least I know you're reading it.

bhallg2k
06-08-2006, 06:38 PM
I read it....Al-Jazeera printed it....find me another paper doing the same?

Fox News (http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,198659,00.html)

Psycho4Bud
06-08-2006, 06:54 PM
Fox News (http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,198659,00.html)


LOL....a thousand pardons. May your camels humps always be filled with water and her baskets with herb!:D

Have a good one!:thumbsup:

Pennsterdam
06-08-2006, 07:08 PM
This is all US government propaganda. There were reports saying that Zarqawi did die before...but now he is officially dead. Hmm..thats suspicious.

bhallg2k
06-08-2006, 07:10 PM
LOL....a thousand pardons. May your camels humps always be filled with water and her baskets with herb!:D

Hehe. He said "humps."

Psycho4Bud
06-08-2006, 08:35 PM
This is all US government propaganda. There were reports saying that Zarqawi did die before...but now he is officially dead. Hmm..thats suspicious.


What did I tell ya bhallg2k....thats why they had to show the pics.

Have a good one!:thumbsup:

Myth1184
06-08-2006, 09:08 PM
I wonder how long it takes for Pisshead to post an article from Tinfoilplanet stating that the US has had him for a long time and this is only an attempt to drive up Bush's poll numbers

EDIT: Never mind, i see he already has...Typical.

birdgirl73
06-08-2006, 11:20 PM
I'm late getting back into this conversation. Had a heck of a long workday to contend with.

I'm not upset the evil Zarqawi and the other guy are dead. I'm glad. But I worry that it will further inflame an already awful situation. That's all I was saying, Minnesota Man. We know there are literally thousands of others over there who feel the same way those two did, and so two folks getting their fast-ticket to paradise--and gosh, yes, they were dangerous kingpins--doesn't actually do much to fix the larger situation. This is not me being unpatriotic or me being a Bush hater. It's simply reality. And not even just my reality, either. It's the current administration's reality. Read their briefings and releases from today if you dont believe me.

I find myself worried like any normal mother or concerned citizen, including those of you who walk to my right, should be. I worry that it may even make the jihaddists more strongly bent on destruction-retaliation toward us than they were 24 hours ago. I worry that more boys and girls my son's age will be targets of even more ghastly deeds in Iraq (I saw that beheading, too.) I worry, as any mom of a 20-year-old would, for his life and future--and for ours.

That's why Rs and Ds alike today have been agreeing on the fact that the work the current administration is trying to accomplish over there is far from done. This was a very good step. And probably a boon to sagging approval ratings. But it certainly wasn't a huge victory. Don't anyone dare tell me that my saying this means I'm a Bush-hating liberal, either, because if you do, I'll know you're responding emotionally and without having been able to actually read or understand what I'm saying. It's simply about reality.

Psycho4Bud
06-08-2006, 11:45 PM
I agree that our work over there is far from done but actually two huge steps were accomplished today. First of all we bit the head off the Al-Qauda snake....he was trying to promote civil war by blowing up both Sunni and Shi'ites. Without his presense, they lost a key general for their cause. Second part is the last appointments for their unity government. With a SUNNI in charge of the military of all things! After all that has happened since Saddam, the Kurds and Shi'ites appoint a Sunni. BIG STEP!

Forces still need to be trained, etc......But things are happening. Power stations for ALL Iraqis, clean water, restoration of the wetlands that southern Shi'ites depended on, new oil contracts for the Kurdish areas, schools, etc.....

Something of this order has never been done in that region and for three such opposite factions, to be sitting at tables discussing instead of oppressing....well, they've taken great strides!

Have a good one!:thumbsup:

birdgirl73
06-08-2006, 11:58 PM
I'm glad for these strides! I truly am. And I'm glad if this is a bigger step than I've understood it to be, too. I got to read most of the early briefings and statements and then the broadcast news, of course, which is mostly just the headlines. But I've not been tuned in since early today because of so much work!

I'm tired as the dickens right now. And I find that if I spend too much time on this subject, I totally personalize it and begin worrying about my son. So I should probably take a breather and not try and write or think about it more. Thanks for helping show me the positives here, my sweet Bud. I needed to read some of those.

I'm now going to depart and allow myself to be taken out to dinner by my husband and son. Steak at Ruth's Chris seems to be on the menu, followed by Italian ices. Somehow I think my mood is going get better since food's involved . . . . Later, friends.

Psycho4Bud
06-09-2006, 12:26 AM
Follow the links under April 6.....and this is still just part of the "good" story:
http://www.kmax.ws/b/goodnewsiniraq.htm

and a post from the past:
http://boards.cannabis.com/showthread.php?t=66386

Have a good one!:thumbsup:

birdgirl73
06-09-2006, 02:58 AM
Thanks for the links, Bud. I enjoyed that Good News from Iraq link a lot. I know there's plenty of it, and it's true that generally "what bleeds leads" in the news, so we don't hear enough of it.

Pennsterdam
06-09-2006, 04:16 AM
Hmm...could this be what hit the Pentagon?? Anyone....anyone??? This could be a vital clue. I heard reports that what hit the pentagon LOOKED LIKE a plane, but the damage done to the pentagon was not caused by a plane so that definately entails some kind of conspiracy theory now. i think i have an idea what is going on. look for the iran war this july probably and don't be surprised if you see a lot of fundemental Christian churches saying "the end is coming. get with Jesus!" and having politics in bed with religion severely.

Psycho4Bud
06-09-2006, 04:27 AM
Hmm...could this be what hit the Pentagon?? Anyone....anyone??? This could be a vital clue. I heard reports that what hit the pentagon LOOKED LIKE a plane, but the damage done to the pentagon was not caused by a plane so that definately entails some kind of conspiracy theory now. i think i have an idea what is going on. look for the iran war this july probably and don't be surprised if you see a lot of fundemental Christian churches saying "the end is coming. get with Jesus!" and having politics in bed with religion severely.

LOL...that is made out a light weight aluminum.....there is no way the explosion would have penetrated that far into the pentagon....but nice try!

Have a good one!:thumbsup:

Myth1184
06-09-2006, 02:22 PM
people ...give it up..a plane hit the pentagon..2 planes hit the world trade centers..(they werent remote controlled)...There wasnt explosives in the trade centers either..

Torog
06-10-2006, 12:52 PM
I'm liberal and I'm not frustrated at all by al-Zarqawi's death. I say good riddance to anyone who uses terrorism as a means to an end.

I am, however, a little concerned by the Pentagon showing videos of the bombing and images of his dead body. I understand that certain people must be given direct evidence of his death. But I also know that this is exactly the kind of thing that will aid other terrorist leaders in escalating attacks and recruiting more members.

And for clarification: No, I do not wish to see an escalation in the frequency of terrorist attacks or an increase in members of the insurgency. I feel like I have to say that because many people on the other side of the aisle view critical comments as support for the enemy. Hence my "ignorant" comment earlier.



And come on, man. Did you even read the article? It was al-Zarqawi's older brother who said he was now a martyr, not al-Jazeera. I'm not one to defend al-Jazeera's journalistic integrity, but I will call bullshit when someone is trying to mislead.

Howdy bhallg2k,

Well I'm happy to hear,that zarqawi's death,doesn't frustrate you and that you don't support terrorism,as a means to an end..that's very encouraging to hear :)

Would you do me a favor and take a poll of yer liberal friends and see if any of them are frustrated over zarqawi's death ? It's pretty much a given,that the liberal MSM,is very reluctant to report any good news from Iraq,for fear that Bush will look better..and to a lesser degree,that our soldiers will look better.

It's just that when I hear a far-left nutcase,like prof. ward churchhill,declare that the victims of 9/11/01,were all "little eichmanns" that deserved to die..that I start to think such "ignorant" thoughts..if I'm wrong-then I'd like to know better..as I don't want to be "ignorant".

Have a good one ! :stoned:

Psycho4Bud
06-10-2006, 01:14 PM
Howdy Torog,

You've probably already read this but I thought I'd post it anyways for ya:

The Washington Times reports Rep. Jim McDermott (D-WA) said: "This insurgency is such a confused mess that one person, dead or alive at this point, is hardly significant. Our troops are no safer today than they were yesterday. And no American is safer today." And Rep. Dennis J. Kucinich (D-OH) stated that Zarqawi was minor in "a growing anti-American insurgency" and "we're there for all the wrong reasons."

Rep. Pete Stark (D-CA) suggested a more conspiratorial reason for the killing when he said: "This is just to cover Bush's rear so he doesn't have to answer for Iraqi civilians being killed by the U.S. military, and his own sagging poll numbers. Iraq is still a mess--get out!"

Rep. Jack Murtha (D-PA), Sen. John Kerry (D-MA) and House Minority leader Nancy Pelosi (D-CA) are still calling for the withdrawal of American troops from Iraq by the end of the year. Pelosi added Thursday: ??This morning, news arrived that our troops in Iraq have tracked down and killed the evil terrorist Abu Musab al-Zarqawi. We are proud of our troops for their tireless work. Their efforts should be commended and their sacrifices should be honored. But the security situation on the ground continues to threaten the safety of our troops.?
http://www.theconservativevoice.com/article/15225.html

Kind of backs up what you've been stating.

Have a good one!:thumbsup:

Toker4LifeVT
06-14-2006, 12:34 AM
Originall Posted by Psycho4Bud
Toker4LifeVT, I think you deserve an award for thread of the year!!

Have a good one!



Thanks:D