The Psychoactive Forum is Closing !!!!!!!

[Nullific]

Before I get totally pissed off someone explain this to me. I am afraid that:
This is in line with our goal to streamline the forum boards
btw: we are cannabis.com doesn't cut it.
Does this mean discussion of other psychoactive sustances is soon to be disallowed?

[robert42]

i dont see why this section would close?

it might be cannabis.com but theres plenty of other parts of the forum that aint just about cannabis

[Its a Plant]

Say it ain't so. This is one of my favorite sections for sure. Plus, if they got rid of all the non-cannabis talk, that'd cut the forum in half!

[sundance.]

This just happens to be one of the first areas to be marked to be closed down
We have very valid reasons for making these changes

and everyone with a say so in the operations, are in full agreement.

As always, there are many areas for general talk etc,

But this board area, is marked to shut down.

BTW: We encourage cannabis talk and discourage other substance talk
but not dissallow it as for now, but this can easily change.

[Its a Plant]

So are these reasons private or could you share them?

Could we by chance have an idea why?

If not, it's cool, I understand.

Too bad though.

[Polymirize]

I would like to share my relief that cannabis.com is finally stepping up to the plate and getting rid of this section. I presume server space is limited, and we don't really need to have a place to discuss other mind expanding drugs, that space is much more in demand hosting threads concerning some kid's recent experience getting high at school, or busted... Thankfully there's still space to discuss smoking while receiving oral sex and a place to talk openly about tag-teaming. It's good to know that the priorities are established.

Kudos cannabis.com...

[WaKeNvAp]

... Thankfully there's still space to discuss smoking while receiving oral sex and a place to talk openly about tag-teaming. It's good to know that the priorities are established.

Kudos cannabis.com...
very true. sad but true.

[Nullific]

As if shutting down this forum is going to stop people from posting about mushrooms, salvia, cough medicine, crack cocaine and heroin or what have you. They'll just post about these topics in the lounge or some other forum. I enjoyed discussing these topics with people on this board because it didn't seem very crowded and I found a handful of you schmucks to be interesting and intelligent people. Furthermore I felt as if this were a community and I was a part of something.
Shit it seems like every message board I've ever been on takes the same road to nowhere. Starts off all nice and fun, then it gets boring and then the ownership changes and all of a sudden it seems like freedom of speech is compromised and everything has to change. This is your board, you're the mod and I am merely a peasant member. I am not about to get all sappy and shit on the internet but if there is no room for other psychotropics on this board there is no room for me.

[Dextromethorphan]

Magical Marijuana
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Wow, that blows. We should all agree to go to a different website for our non-marijuana related threads. This area is the only reason I have an account. Dope is fine and all, but other substances are much more interesting and worthy of discussion. Really, you're killing a good thing if you kill the "other psychotropic" section.

[Khronic]

Magical Marijuana
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Wow, that blows. We should all agree to go to a different website for our non-marijuana related threads. This area is the only reason I have an account. Dope is fine and all, but other substances are much more interesting and worthy of discussion. Really, you're killing a good thing if you kill the "other psychotropic" section.

I couldn't agree more...

[Jeff Spicoli]

sundance /=/ stalin??

[Cooler Then Jesus]

communist...shutting this down will just flood other forums with talk about other drugs..

[yoda]

i think this decision is bullshit. i mean, just cause its CANNABIS.com, doesnt mean we should have to strictly stick with cannabis. the lounge, the sexuality forum, spirituality, i mean are you shutting those down too? and like already been said, shutting down the psychotrips forum would only move these topics to other threads where they wont belong, which will prolly lead to more bitching between members. so here i beg of you to keep the other psychotrips.

[BobBong]

So is that why youâ??re shutting down the â??Other Psychotropicsâ?� section?

I think that this site serves great educational purposes and healthy discussions occur here where very valuable information is presented. It is the lack of knowledge that makes for bad decisions. This is like Whiteâ??s inner struggle about making the â??DXM FAQâ?� â?? of course it is going to serve as a guide for people who already want to do the drug, but it also will educate them enough so that they, say, donâ??t go off and buy the wrong kind of cough syrup and kill themselves. I think in the end having this information public saves lives.

How about educating people to use cough medicine and Dextromethorphan Hydrobromide PROPERLY... not as a way to get "high"...But you don't agree with that either... as i'm sure you think DXM is harmless...

You guys object about having "Kids" on the site? Well we object to people educating "Kids" how to abuse and use harder "drugs" than cannabis. How do you sleep at night knowing that you are promoting the use of COUGH SYRUP as a recreational drug:confused:
That's right.. you don't sleep, you twitch...and probably don't sleep much at all.
Would your FAQ cover the negative effects of abusing DXM?? ...Didn't think so. You seem like the type of person that would go around the world telling people that cannabis is the cureall for most of life's problems or even beneficial to your health...when you know (or at least i think you do) as well as most people here know, that's not true...

The closing of this section will by far.. be a VERY good step to eradicating this idea that you can get high off of anything without any concequences to yourself at all.

Uneducation is one thing...misleading information is another.

Cya around,
Bob.

[Nullific]

What the hell are you talking about? All I get out of your post is that you have some sort of grudge against Dextromethorphan. Not every post in this forum is about DXM and not everybody here is perpetuating an ideology that you can innocuously "get high off of anything". I am certainly not. The whole topic of drugs is very touchy and it doesn't help that people have such varying and peculiar opinions when it comes to certain substances.
Dextromethorphan for example is a drug I have done several times, the last was probably nine or more months ago and I believe it was a year before that. I don't think I will ever do it again because I simply don't enjoy the effects very much. A friend of mine binged on the shit damn near two years and developed DXM psychosis until he voluntarily quit. If people for whatever reason enjoy using it they need to be aware that abusing it like most things results in negative consequences. For your information William Whites DXM FAQ does indeed cover the minor and major risks associated with it's use. You can read all about it yourself here (http://www.erowid.org/chemicals/dxm/faq/dxm_faq.shtml).
Closing this forum simply will not prevent people from using DXM or any other drug.
By the way...talk about misleading information, the FDA also says that marijuana has zero medicinal value. Fuck the FDA.

[Dextromethorphan]

BobBong, you're a fool. Who said I was promoting the use of anything? On more than one occasion I have said that I do not promote the use of dextromethorphan. You obviously misread the post of mine you just quoted because I referred to William White's FAQ which presents unbiased information. It is hard to find a drug that is less physically damaging to your body than the drug in question if taken in moderation and with caution. It is painfully obvious that you donâ??t know anything at all about the drug.

â??How about educating people to use cough medicine and Dextromethorphan Hydrobromide PROPERLY... not as a way to get "high"...But you don't agree with that either... as i'm sure you think DXM is harmless...â?�

That is a great assertion about what I believe. Congratulations for making yourself look like a dick. Nothing is harmless. Marijuana isnâ??t harmless â?? why do you advocate its use? I donâ??t educate people about how to get â??high.â?� I promote the use of psychedelic drugs for personal /spiritual insight and self-actualization. I think that if you read my posts youâ??d see that.

If you think that the majority of posters here promote the reckless use of any drug you obviously canâ??t read very well. Who are you to draw a line as to what drugs are â??hardâ?� or not? How can you even rationalize your argument to yourself â?? â??we object to people educating "Kids" how to abuse and use harder "drugs" than cannabis.â?�

There is a difference between â??useâ?� and â??abuseâ?� with drugs in the same way there is with power (Iâ??m not pointing fingers but maybe someone should take that to heart). Abuse of either is foolish and gluttonous.

What is provided on this site is information. Why do you want to rob people of this? How do YOU sleep at night, Big Brother? Tearing your argument apart was easier than rolling a joint - something Iâ??m sure you advocate.

In conclusion: â??Uneducationâ?� is not a word.

[CocaCola]

Fuck this board. Seriously... weed is practically fucking useless.

You shut down this forum... I insist that you erase politics and all the other forums not related to pot. No, wait... why don't you just lump all the weed forums together so that a bunch of idiots can come on an talk about how stoned they got.

Fuck... this world is fucking stupid. And this board is fucking stupid. The only forum with educated talk is going to be erased. This is great.


How about educating people to use cough medicine and Dextromethorphan Hydrobromide PROPERLY... not as a way to get "high"...But you don't agree with that either... as i'm sure you think DXM is harmless...

You guys object about having "Kids" on the site? Well we object to people educating "Kids" how to abuse and use harder "drugs" than cannabis. How do you sleep at night knowing that you are promoting the use of COUGH SYRUP as a recreational drug:confused:
That's right.. you don't sleep, you twitch...and probably don't sleep much at all.
Would your FAQ cover the negative effects of abusing DXM?? ...Didn't think so. You seem like the type of person that would go around the world telling people that cannabis is the cureall for most of life's problems or even beneficial to your health...when you know (or at least i think you do) as well as most people here know, that's not true...

The closing of this section will by far.. be a VERY good step to eradicating this idea that you can get high off of anything without any concequences to yourself at all.

Uneducation is one thing...misleading information is another.

Cya around,
Bob.

Get the fuck out. You're serious? Never has anyone giving false information on any substances. You look like a fucking jackass... suck the new administrations cock. I hope that a bunch of fucking idiots try and get high off of something they already know can fuck them up and die because of lack of smart, insightful people.

This is making me sick... figures a new group gains control of the board and now they are going to be PC pansy ass fuckheads who happen to be fucking egotistical retards and not even know it. This world... omg... it's going straight for the shitter.

[CocaCola]

And before erasing this forum, I'd suggest maybe figuring out another way to keep the uneducated talk out of the board... like making Nullific a mod or something for this forum. (LOL, uneducated... I can't wait to see all the smarts when this forum is gone.)

Erase this forum, and you'll be "eraticating" the message board.

Oh yeah, and if I get banned for my comments toward bobbong, that would be funny. Because you know... of all the offense. :thumbsup:

Idiots.

[CocaCola]

That's right.. you don't sleep, you twitch...and probably don't sleep much at all.

Wow, blatent misconception. really... without this forum you'll be removing the place where people can be informed about the dangers of retarded OTC highs like DXM and Benadryl. Omg, I cannot truly express my distaste for this decision... it's just so insanely retarded. I cannot believe that you people are so burnt out... ugh... yuck... disgusting. Fucking potheads... uhhh.. I feel ill. Like this is just horrible...

It's not the fucking forums fault. (How the fuck can it be?)

It states below the forum title... in the text... do you see it? Mushrooms and Acid ect... Remove DXM (Mr. mod) and you've got a perfectly safe forum according to you. You can't stop stupid people from coming on and asking stupid fucking questions... it's a cannabis board. Why don't you delete threads regarding Diphenhydramine and stuff if YOU don't want to discuss the dangers of it.

I'm feel like throwing up... I just knew this would happen... new administration, fucked up new nonsensical decisions based on egoistic pothead staff.

[Cooler Then Jesus]

ouch, but really, when this goes, the lounge will be flooded with things like "omg how mutch coughsyrup 2 trip, lool!!11!one!"

[willystylle]

This is going to be a huge blow for cannabis.com. But like the mods say there are valid reasons for it. Just a note to the mods though when this topic closes down I'll be heading off to the lycaeum for my 'Other Psychotropics' fix and I'm sure many other readers will.... I love these forums but to limit the discussion to cannabis only will make a big dent in the hits you're getting.

[BobBong]

It's pretty much a given that a lot of changes will be hard to accept. When it comes down to it though, neither I or any of you really have any say in the direction these forums take.
My opinions are my opinions, just as yours are yours...as "uneducation" as you may think my opinions are...
maybe if you didn't spend so much time in front of the computer nit-picking other people's stoned typo's, you wouldn't be so quick to get offended.

How can you say you don't promote the use of Dextromethorphan when your name... is...Dextromethorphan?

You DO promote it, you're just offended that i don't.

bygones be bygones though.. non of this has any bearing on the direction the new owners wish to take this website.

[CocaCola]

There is no offence. We're just saying that removing this forum is going to run this place into the ground. We KNOW it will, and we're telling it you IT WILL.

New members will come that wouldn't have a clue wether or not there was an Other Psychotropics forum but there will still be the same topics flooding other parts of the board because this forum will be missing. Also, this forum is the best...

It makes me sick that such radical changes would be made for no good reason... but not offended. I just won't be coming here as much if at all when this change happens, so I don't really care. But a warning to the staff... it's a big mistake. And plus it's useless to get rid of the forum. If it's about server space then get rid of the 10 other forums that barely anyone uses at all. And if it's about the idiotic questions streaming into the board then get a mod for this forum that will show up more often then most of the other mods here.

I'd recommend Nullific, cause honestly, he is one of the more informed members here and would be perfectly suited to watch this place... Or someone!

[sundance.]

other substance talk is tolerated very little on other cannabis related forums, i remind you all. -and easily enforced as well-

eitherway, why would we not do this without really good reasons (private).

we welcome you to seek other forums on the internet for topics relating to those you desire, as there must certainly be some

[willystylle]

I've been to other forums;

totse, lycaeum and baked. They all SUCK. they all suck because either a)the mods are too strict, or b)there is no 'other psychotropics' forum. Just my 2cents thats all.

[prplchknz]

don't stream line the boards. I like this section cuz I've learned alot from this section and yes I understand this is cannabis.com but we need to be able to talk about other things as well. that's what makes this such a great community.

[SensiRide]

How sad that the new owner is shutting this section down. I thought things, if anything, would change for the better, but sadly, they seem to be changing in a bad way :(
Why when things are going fine do people have to try and change it? :confused:

I cant see myself coming on this site as much now, which is such a shame, I really enjoyed this section and found it very helpful and informative.

[yoda]

How sad that the new owner is shutting this section down. I thought things, if anything, would change for the better, but sadly, they seem to be changing in a bad way :(
Why when things are going fine do people have to try and change it? :confused:

I cant see myself coming on this site as much now, which is such a shame, I really enjoyed this section and found it very helpful and informative.

we need a member like you sensi to fight for the survival of this forum

and you say other cannabis forums shun talk of other drugs and their sites, do you want to be like every other marijuana forum, or dont you wanna seperate yourself from the rest? i love the community here, i love going to here to discuss other drugs and to learn about them, and i would be sad to see this area go. is there a way you could like lock it for only ppl over the age of 18 to come in, so that way it wont be talk amongst kiddies?

[hubblebubble]

sundance=stalin lol lol lol

[hubblebubble]

this site is going downhill... and FAST if you want to do something usefull ban the kids, and get rid of the sexuality forum

[hubblebubble]

Express Your Concern

[1212awwaww]

well that me gone people. a site just for dope, could get a bit boring me thinks!

[beachguy in thongs]

That's a buzz-kill.

[andruejaysin]

this site is going downhill... and FAST if you want to do something usefull ban the kids, and get rid of the sexuality forum
They can't ban the kids, someone needs to buy "the best legal smoke on the planet". But yeah, going down fast. Guess I'll see you all at bluelight, I'm out of here.

[Logs]

Bluelight is awesome! I just checked it out. I'm def. gonna be reading up there. http://www.bluelight.ru/vb/home.php

[stangle12]

why? WHY!~

[BobBong]

Weren't you recently complaining about the lack of age restriction on this site?

Think about this...if a parent.. or a LEO comes on here to find out what it is their kids are involved with... why their kids wish to smoke pot. To simply educate themselves about cannabis... so where do they go? cannabis.com, probably.

Now put yourself in their shoes.. they log onto the forum.. and see "Other Pyschotropics" inwhich people talk about anything and everything from drinking DXM to dropping acid and snorting coke....Does this not validate their arguement that cannabis is indeed a "gateway" drug.

By having this forum on the site.. it does not do anything good for the cannabis acceptance movement.

People will forever think that cannabis is a gateway drug, if the people using it.. are constantly talking about "harder" drugs.

[prplchknz]

that's the last board that needs to go it has the least amount of bullshit on it (yes it has some) I don't know about the grow area(I don't grow so i can't judge there). plus it was informative I didn't trust the info I got from some of the people but I was able to double check it or get sites on things. I think none of the boards should be deleted. It's not the boards that make up the site its the people and if you get rid of the people that's bringing the site down alot of the problems would be solved.

[the image reaper]

I agree with Bob, wholeheartedly ... this website is named "cannabis.com" for a reason, ... if you are into something else, go to "tweeker.com", or "heroin.com" , whatever ...
good people are trying desperately to get cannabis legalized, or at least, decriminalized, and allowing these other drug threads to infiltrate plays right into the hands of LEO, and normal, concerned parents ... how can we argue that pot does NOT lead to other, more harmful drugs, when we are permitting those exact drugs to be popularized in here ?? ...
get real, people .. if you want to know how to cop a 'high' sniffing your Mom's douche, then find that info somewhere else, not in a cannabis forum ... :smokin:

[Its a Plant]

Not everyone looking at the site is a concerned parent...

Logic seems a little off..

[the image reaper]

I agree to shutting down non-cannabis Forums, wholeheartedly ... this website is named "cannabis.com" for a reason, ... if you are into something else, go to "tweeker.com", or "heroin.com" , whatever ...
good people are trying desperately to get cannabis legalized, or at least, decriminalized, and allowing these other drug threads to infiltrate plays right into the hands of LEO, and normal, concerned parents ... how can we argue that pot does NOT lead to other, more harmful drugs, when we are permitting those exact drugs to be popularized in here ?? ...
get real, people .. if you want to know how to cop a 'high' sniffing your Mom's douche, then find that info somewhere else, not in a cannabis forum ... :smokin:

[florida boy 3]

bob makes a lot of sense.

[BobBong]

Not everyone looking at the site is a concerned parent...

Logic seems a little off..

No you're right.. there are people coming to this site to honestly learn about cannabis. Adults..that are un educated on the matter.

Put yourself in that position...you come here to learn about cannabis.. either the medical or recreational uses of it.. How would you react when you see people talking about a variety of mind altering drugs...that have nothing to do with cannabis? would you not be a little concerned that cannabis can lead to these other things? To be honest most of the Pyschotropic topics have NOTHING to do with cannabis. I believe the quote was "weed is practically fucking useless." ...which really, says it all.

If this is the mentality of a drug user, that cannabis is honestly not very helpful... but these other drugs are? Then you're more addicted than you realize.

Which is exactly why this section is going to get closed.

[Nullific]

Why should a message board like Cannabis.com be limited soley to cannabis? Cannabis may be the main focus here and it's a good place for growers but I believe that everybody here has made the decision to do an illegal drug. Despite what most of your parents, teachers, doctors, parole officers or your government told you about it you smoked an illegal drug. Perhaps you were curious or indifferent to the authoritative influence. Maybe you did your own research and found that the drug laws were draconian and impracticable, the entire topic of psychoactives a body of myth and hype.
It should be no surprise that a lot of people who smoke cannabis are interested in the effects of other substances. Everybody everywhere needs to stop discriminating against drugs. Are you trying to give people the idea that cannabis is different from other drugs? Those that know already know and the others just arn't interested. While legalizing cannabis would be a nice step in the right direction it seems far off at this rate and meager juxtaposed the war on drugs. All drugs are different from other drugs and prohibiting them all is doing more harm than good. Allowing just cannabis discussion is nice, but Other Psychotropics is progressive. Why take a step back?

theimagereaper, Cannabis doesn't force you to do other drugs. People do other drugs for their own reasons, and others need to accept that as well. People with your attitude are never going to get cannabis legalized.

[Its a Plant]

Well I understand that you want to keep it strictly cannabis talk, but at the same time, I liked the option to post in an area such as the psychoactive forum. That's what makes this place so cool. If people don't want to learn about drinking cough syrup and what not, then they don't have to click in that forum. And to assume every impressionable kid that looks in the psychoactive forum will go out and start huffing gas is reasoning gone wrong. These are all assumptions, and I guess I missed the part when this site became more parentally-acceptable. Either way, I think you might be getting rid of a good thing.

My :twocents:

[BobBong]

I guess I missed the part when this site became more parentally-acceptable. Either way, I think you might be getting rid of a good thing.


That's actually exactly what the new owners are trying to do. Make this site much more mainstream... hopefully educating more people that have massive misconceptions about cannabis.. like the "gateway drug" thing, or that smoking it will cure whatever ails you. We're trying to get cannabis more accepted by people who have been fed biased opinions about it, as i think we ALL are fed at some point.
You may be right.. and bye closing down the Psychotropic area may force people to go elsewhere to get this information, we may even lose a few respected members...but if the direction this site is traveling does not include Psychotropics..then it will not include other Psychotropics..

We're more concerned with educating and helping to fix misconceptions many, many people in our society have about cannabis.

[harmonicminor]

I think all the threads I have seen about heroin, coke and meth werent exactly saying "oh yeah its great try it".
oh yeah thats what LEO wants
you know why???
more money for thier drug war

personally I think I may have saved a few kids from picking mushrooms in the woods and eating them. They posted questions about it on here before they risked thier lives. I think thier concerned parents would thank me FYI
you see talking about other drugs CAN inform people

[kid rediculous]

although i probably will not stop coming to the site completely, the closing down of this forum will drastically reduce my visits here. i found this forum to be the most intellegent and factual forum on this site. whatever its the new admins choice to lose probably half of the people that come to this site. oh yea i just registered for bluelight... my name is gan Jiah 13 if anyone on here joins those forums it would be pretty cool if we all knew someone on there. peace

[the image reaper]

" That's actually exactly what the new owners are trying to do. Make this site much more mainstream... hopefully educating more people that have massive misconceptions about cannabis.. like the "gateway drug" thing, or that smoking it will cure whatever ails you. We're trying to get cannabis more accepted by people who have been fed biased opinions about it, as i think we ALL are fed at some point. " ....

I, for one, am very happy to see the new owners taking a responsible course of action ... I feel this is the necessary step for genuine cannabis-law reform, the "powers that be" that can change these laws, will naturally check their sources for correct information, I only hope what they find is not seeded with the glue-sniffers, and cough-syrup drinkers ... :smokin:

[Skink]

So essentially what you are saying here is ::: Pot is a gateway drug so we won't show that here... You can't squelch reality to promote opinion...

[BobBong]

So essentially what you are saying here is ::: Pot is a gateway drug so we won't show that here... You can't squelch reality to promote opinion...

Sounds like YOU are saying this...
I'm saying quite the opposite actually...pot should NOT be seen as a gateway drug.. as it really isn't.

People that start smoking pot, often get curious with other drugs.. but this is not always the case.. There are many uses for cannabis that do not lead to harder mind altering drugs. By having the psychotropics forum, anyone that believes this misconception will validate it by seeing that a cannabis site has an entire section dedicated to "other pyschotropics"..

So really, by having this forum it only helps people argue that cannabis is in fact a gateway drug.

[Skink]

to be honest what sundance said is better and needs no other explanation...


btw: we are cannabis.com

[mrdevious]

one concern I have though is that if we eliminate the psychotropics forum there will be tonnes of crack, coke, lsd, shroom, DXM, and so forth threads in the lounge and recreational, which could hence make us look worse.

oh and Bobbomb, with all due respect and love, I'm still not agreeing with you that my terrorism thread should be moved to politics!:p

[Psycho4Bud]

I'm more less an example of what Bob is talking about. I got it in my head to start growing my own instead of paying the dealer man. Stumbled on this site doing the research. Granted, once I got here and learned what was needed the majority of my time was in the politics forum but my initial search was for grow information.

Question: Is there a movement to legalize LSD, coke, heroin, etc.........this site IS named Cannabis.com for a reason. NOT that I have anything against any other stimulants. Not much for discrimination in my personal life.:D

Have a good one!:thumbsup:

[Psycho4Bud]

Do have to admit though that I did learn a little in here on the topic of growing poppie, but that I considered was my patriotic duty in order to take the money out of the hands of the Taliban.:D

[yabatab]

if you want to know how to cop a 'high' sniffing your Mom's douche, then find that info somewhere else, not in a cannabis forum ..

I think some of these kids would do that if it got them buzzed.

I agree its cannabis.com not "how do i get high on house hold products.com"

[Polymirize]

I cant see myself coming on this site as much now, which is such a shame, I really enjoyed this section and found it very helpful and informative.

Do the math here mods... If the older and more mature people leave because they're not free to discuss anything of interest, and at least half of the younger immature people leave because hotties like Sensi are no longer posting pictures of themselves... where will that leave you? Sounds like a pretty shitty forum.

Seems like you just want to complain about cough syrup, but there's a lot of open conversation about mushrooms, acid and e, just for example. I'm not condoning the use of any of these for just anyone but obviously they're going to be done by certain individuals, and I don't see how not talking about it is going to make the situation at all safer for anyone.

This decision blows. You're moderators. Can't you, well, moderate between the new owners and the masses, so to speak, and come up with some new and more acceptable options?

You're right, the owners own the website, and they have all the say in what happens here. But why would anyone want to come to a site like that?

[Jeff Spicoli]

Did Ron sell the board to someone who has ownership or something in the other boring marijuana only forums?
Also, if this area is getting shut down, what others are going to be deleted also?

[latewood]

If this is the mentality of a drug user, that cannabis is honestly not very helpful... but these other drugs are? Then you're more addicted than you realize. bobbong

or, closer to death, I say...lw

[Not Enough Herb]

This place has hit the shitter. I remember when i used to come to this site every 3 hours. Now its every 3 days. now that this forum is gone, theres really no point in reading about how some 14 year old kid smoked an ounce by himself. The new moderators are ignorant. People arent telling kids to get high off anything they can, there saying if your going to get high, be smart about it. But you ignorant new mods didnt see that. I also agree that Nullific sould be the moderator of this forum, as he is probably the most knowledgable person here.

One more thing








I love coke







Sundance = Stalin

[thcbongman]

Shutting down this board won't get cannabis legalized any sooner. Until people fault their own actions rather than inanimate objects, we'll be progressive.

This is a section of the board that was free from the "stupid ass crackhead" or "heroin will kill you" comments that would be posted if a topic about crack or heroin was posted in the lounge.

As sensi stated, ironically this is the most mature section of the entire boards. To get rid of this section epitomizes what the owner is most clueless about: maintaining loyal members and content.

If you want this to become a shitty kid fest with some high schoolers who think pot is so magical, fine by me. I don't see myself engaging about talking about just "cannabis" all the time. It's boring.

[BobBong]

Nice guys.. real nice..

You realize that calling the owners "stalin" is pretty much the same thing as calling them "nazi" or "hitler". We're not being ignorant, you do not hear us saying that you shouldn't be talking about these things, educating yourself before doing something. There are however, MANY places to do it. This forum was one of them, until a decision was made to close it down for ...whatever reasons. Now that this is being done.. you're all biting the hand that fed you this freedom to talk about it in the first place. We're asking, not telling people to take this kind of talk elsewhere.. because.. that's just what they want.

I find it ironic that most of you participate in other websites that talk about this stuff, but still come to "cannabis.com" to talk about it. The only reason you guys do that, is because you can. Soon, you won't be able to do that...You may feel it's a negative change.. many people may feel it's a "negative" change... but to be honest there's rarely "good" or "bad" change on a website... just change and most changes will be both good and bad.

I don't think this is being done to shun the uses of these other psychotropics.. but if the objective of the site excludes other psychotropics then there's little that can be done about it.

If you're here JUST for this specific "other pychotropics" forum, then of course.. you're not going to like this change. If you're here for both Cannabis and other Psychotropic topics, then you may be a little dissappointed..and for that we're sorry... i don't think they intend to disappoint anyone, simply make the changes that they feel need to be made to meet their objective.

I'm sure a majority of people know about Erowid.org but perhaps we'll address making some sort of Sticky to help steer people in the right direction of where to look for this kind of information. But the fact of the matter is, this section has had little to do with cannabis since it was put up and the new owners wish to now make this site mainly but not soley about cannabis...

Happy Toking,
Bob.

[Stellar]

We should all feel an obligation to promote responsibility.

Advocating or glorifying the use of dangerous and degenerative substances, like DXM or Heroin, which can kill a first-timer with as little as a gram dose, is extremely irresponsible. Advocating or glorifying the use of other physically addictive substances, such as amphetamines and cocaine, is equally irresponsible. While sharing information about the drug itself is not irresponsible, our first and foremost notion, in my opinion, should be to inform them that most of the substances discussed on that forum are extremely dangerous. When I see a thread about using cough syrup to trip or teaching someone how to properly inject heroin, it kind of knocks the overall quality of that forum down to abysmal levels. Its disgusting, imo.

I more appreciate the idea that we are here for the education of those seeking knowledge regarding Cannabis. While, not everything in the psychotropics forums is negative or disgusting, there are threads there that are going to give kids and adults alike good ideas about bad things. It is very tearing to know that we will lose quality information and exchange of ideas about certain narcotics some of us can enjoy as safely and responsibly as Cannabis, but, also a benefit in that there should be no excuse for our kids to be building up liver disorders and failing kidneys because someone said you can trip off of robotussin, or learning how to obliterate their veins with needles or get addicted to drugs that wreak havok on their nervous systems.

While there are two sides to it, I think the way they intend to go is more favorable than what is current. Personally, I would welcome open discussion about certain other narcotics. However, while some other substances may appear safe to me, they aren't literally safe. I would be happier knowing that hey aren't learning how to get high off of spray paint from some burnout in that place. A lot of the drugs being discussed there aren't safe. We shouldn't really be trying to preach the usefullness of drugs that are assured to cause severe degenerative effects with even casual to moderate use.

Its hard to not call it propaganda versus other drugs by deliberate omission of their discussion, however, there are other sites to learn about other substances. I'd say that forum is ruined by the sheer volume of people using unsafe drugs and failing to report, along with the psychotropic effects, the long term degenerative effects. That, to me, is irresponsible.

[Psycho4Bud]

Stellar....WELL SAID!

If it were just to give a little knowledge that would be one thing but I can't even count the amount of posts from kids that go on the order of this:

Me and a buddy just bought 3 grams of coke...how big of lines should we do....how long will it last.

You said it all very clear!!!

Have a good one!:thumbsup:

[Relic2279]

It's because of the war on drugs, that pot can be linked to a gateway drug.

If people were educated correctly in the first place, that pot is a mostly harmless drug, safer then alcohol, then people wouldn't be thinking this line of thought;

"Well holy crap. Pot is great! They said I would become a drug addict, my penis would fall off, teeth would fall out and I would lose 20 IQ points smoking my first bong!" ... "Since pot is fine, they must have been lying about the other drugs too! Get that heroin ready for me joe! This cat's going to town!"....

I'm sure this is how alot of kids first start. Thinking well, pot isn't bad, neither is the rest. We can only blame the goverment for their false propaganda and lack of real education regarding MJ.

~r

[BobBong]

I hate to say it...
But I'm very relieved that i'm not the only person that thinks about these things..

Thank you,
Bob.

[beachguy in thongs]

Maybe, the psychoactive forums should concern threads about the psychoactive properties of Pot?

Or, has someone said that...

[IanCurtisWishlist]

i think the psychoactive forum is a good forum with good information on it. why not put a disclaimer on the website, rather than taking away the forum? it's not going to stop people from talking about smoking their godawful meth or their crack or dropping LSD (harmless in my opinion) or eating shroomies.

[BobBong]

Maybe, the psychoactive forums should concern threads about the psychoactive properties of Pot?

Or, has someone said that...

That's also a good idea, i don't believe that has been addressed. Could that not fall under the Medical and Health Forum though? The problem that i'm seeing is that the Psychotropics forum was made specificly for talking about "Other" drugs...The topics aren't even about cannabis used with other psychotropics, just those other drugs..

[BobBong]

i think the psychoactive forum is a good forum with good information on it. why not put a disclaimer on the website, rather than taking away the forum? it's not going to stop people from talking about smoking their godawful meth or their crack or dropping LSD (harmless in my opinion) or eating shroomies.

well, we can't stop anyone from saying anything.. if someone wishes to be racist or trying to sell illegal stuff, then they'll do just that.. but they'll also not be welcome to the site either, and they'll be told that. If you can't accept the changes as they're presented.. then perhaps a different forum would be for you?

p.s. i'm generalizing, not talking to anyone specificly.

[IanCurtisWishlist]

well, we can't stop anyone from saying anything.. if someone wishes to be racist or trying to sell illegal stuff, then they'll do just that.. but they'll also not be welcome to the site either, and they'll be told that. If you can't accept the changes as they're presented.. then perhaps a different forum would be for you?

p.s. i'm generalizing, not talking to anyone specificly.

If somebody is being racist, they should be banned... if someone is selling illegal stuff on the board, then that's definately a no-no. i'm just saying that instead of closing the forum you could put a disclaimer illustrating the point; something along the lines of "we don't condone the use of such substances, however we aren't one to limit the free speech of other people." you know what i mean? i understand the point, that you don't want cannabis to be associated with hard drugs because you would like it to seem more 'main-stream'. but maybe there is another way to go about this , other than completely closing the psychoactive forum? i think there is good educational advice in this forum.. when i think about it this way, i wouldn't mind answering a kid's question regarding the LD-50 for heroin; he might have taken too much of the drug had he not first consulted with people who have more knowledge. Again i see your point, but this is something to take into consideration. maybe the psychoactive forum should remain, but "for informational purposes only". just a thought?

i'm only recommending this because closing that forum probably isn't going to stop people from talking about how much blow they're doing or how to cook meth or anything like that.

[Stellar]

Like you are saying, there are mentalities out there that are going to get high on one thing, think its great, then go see what kind of highs they get off of other things. Its another ugly head of the irresponsibility monster. Simply wanting to get high, with no regard for the fact that you can hurt yourself to the point of a slow death in a hospital bed.

Calling pot a gateway drug is a cop out and an attempt o evade the fact that people want more of something when they experience it and think positively of it. The same phenomenemanomnjon occurs with food. It happens with everything known to man. For some reason, calling this phenomenon "gateway" and puting it in front of "drug" causes an uproar and backlash against Marijuana amongst people easily impressed by a clever application of buzz words or terminologies.

"Wow! Beef and chicken are good! What does pork taste like," "Wow, coca cola is good, what does RC taste like?"

The gateway drug hip hop is a bunch of shit, so to say. Everything is a gateway to something else. Some genius decided to say pot can lead to a curiosity and execution of obtaining highs from other substances. Sherlock Holmes, look the fuck out. That philosophy works with just about everything from food to clothes to sex.

However, if one is to put something in one's body without research or regard to its detrimental effects, one is careless. Moreover, one will not benefit from another telling them how awesome a detrimental drug feels, while failing to tell one about the possible harm assosciated with that drug. I do not believe that cannabis.com should be a source of information or advocacy regarding DXM, herion, cocaine, or whatever else you can come up with, for that reason alone. As much as moderation or regular john would try to prevent it, someone is going to tell someone else that coke is fun or heroin makes you happy before you can get there to teach them the dangers associated with those things.

On the same token, its altogether possible they will go somewhere else and some dummy is going to tell them that whatever deadly chemical they are onto feels great and they should go for it. But, why should that place be cannabis.com?

[IanCurtisWishlist]

exactly; there are only gateway behaviors, NOT GATEWAY DRUGS. if you are looking to get fucked up off of whatever and you don't care what it is that you're putting into your body, you are 1) stupid and 2) more likely to not just smoke pot, but to move on to other drugs. it's the "gateway" BEHAVIOR/MINDSET. smoking marijuana might cause one to become curious about other substances; however this depends on the individual. if you are looking to experiment with drugs then you are more likely to try hard drugs. honestly i've done hard drugs and would prefer pot over anything. so that's the idea; if you are looking to get messed up off of whatever, that's one thing. but if you looking for a marijuana high, you will stick with marijuana and not dabble in other drugs..

[BobBong]

well said guys, thanks for giving your input on this matter.

I couldn't have said many of the points that were covered better.

[Polymirize]

Nice guys.. real nice..

You realize that calling the owners "stalin" is pretty much the same thing as calling them "nazi" or "hitler".

It's absolutely nothing like calling them nazis or hitler. Know your history bob. Some of the fiercest fighting of WWII was between the nazis and the soviets.

There are vast cultural and idealogical differences. however, it's true that they're both totalitarian governments. Come to think of it, the parallel you've made make more and more sense...

No chance of discussion huh? You are but a cogwheel in the vast machine of cannabis.com, eh bob?

[CocaCola]

Sexuality, get rid of it... Politics... get rid of it. Recreational and the Lounge should be merged since they pretty much have the same idea in mind. Drug Testing get be lumped up with those two forums as well. Spirituality... that's should be removed... and oh yeah... might as well merge Activism with the rest too... and so such Legal as it's the same idea as Activism, right? The Health forum... what should that be merged with? Sexuality? Or Drug Testing?

This removal makes no sense at all.

[CocaCola]

Sounds like YOU are saying this...
I'm saying quite the opposite actually...pot should NOT be seen as a gateway drug.. as it really isn't.

People that start smoking pot, often get curious with other drugs.. but this is not always the case.. There are many uses for cannabis that do not lead to harder mind altering drugs. By having the psychotropics forum, anyone that believes this misconception will validate it by seeing that a cannabis site has an entire section dedicated to "other pyschotropics"..

So really, by having this forum it only helps people argue that cannabis is in fact a gateway drug.
No, like he just said... but was chosen to be twisted around... what you're saying is that the new owners don't want to make it appearent that Cannabis is a gateway drug.

Fucked up logic... and you and "sundance" will lnever be convinced otherwise... cause you're both very "mainstream" people.

[Polymirize]

I've seen some amazingly ignorant threads concerning dxm use. I'll admit to that. But I think its a rather stark decision to say that psychotropics break down into mj, and all things not-mj. And that one of these is bad and the other good.
Two test cases for you to consider. Shrooms and Salvia. Hell, salvia is even smoked.
Where do we draw the line on acceptable drug use in the vast scale that moves from mj through black tar heroin?

I always conceived of overturning drug prohibition by changing the attitude about drugs, not their legal status. It will be all well and good when cannabis is legal, but there's a problem in society as long as it says some drugs are illegal, and therefore bad, while other drugs are legal, and commercialized, so open your mouth and fucking swallow.

Is selling out in order to make cannabis more acceptable really the best solution?

I've done the research and am obviously biased towards my own findings, but I just doubt that that many people opposed to mj are researching the internet throughly in order to learn about it.
As for concerned parents, maybe they have a right to be concerned. Kids don't always understand everything, for all that they might emulate adult behavior. still, I think there's less harm in the threads that discuss other drugs than in the one's where some ignorant jerkoff will brag about getting ripped and beating the shit out of someone.

I could find 10 threads with my eyes closed whose content would make me worry more about the impressionable youth than the use of the word "heroin" throughout the boards.

Maybe the moderators could actually, I don't know, moderate(?), so that instead of only representing the spectrum of users of a single drug (cannabis), we could instead represent the responsible users of a whole spectrum of drugs.

[S8ted]

before the psychoactive forum gets shut down & i go to sleep, i must proudly proclaim 'I'm pretty wasted on this "Kummel" liqueur i bought several weeks ago & it feels FUKKIN GREEEIIT!'
;)

[Stellar]

I agree with the sentiment of they way some things are being worded, that it seems as if someone is trying to play a game and remove any material that could make cannabis look like it leads to those other drugs and chemicals.

Myself? I don't buy gateway theory. However, even if all material making it look like it is easy to link marijuana to coke or whatever from here is abolished, the notion of marijuana being a gateway drug is not going to go away, just because you can't read about opium on canabis.com. Any intelligent person knows this.

In my opinion, the problem with drugs is that they ARE usually thrown in the same boat as eachother. Take the recent alaska meth/pot bill. One horrendous substance was clumped together with a virtually harmless substance, like they both belonged in the same group. Some drugs, in my opinion, are illeagal for very, very good reasons, and should remain illeagal. Be it they ruin lives out of addiction or they simply ruin them out of death. I genuinely believe people should suffer interdiction if they get onto a poison disguised by a high. Its for their own good, if they were foolish enough to get into it o begin witrh.

Personally, I find myself the opposite of your thinking. I believe that, in order for Cannabis to ever seriously be decriminalized, people are going to have to realize that smoking a bowl doesn't have the same effect as shoving a needle in your arm or chugging a bottle of vicodin.

It would be great if the attitude of all drugs changed and true human choice was allowed and permited, when it comes to them. It would be great if that happened with everything. Unfortunately, it is the common notion to clump everything together in a group, and give that group a label. Maybe, we'll see a day where things are actually seperated into piles that they belong in. Things like pot and mushrooms, things you can actually mentally and physicall benefit from with responsible consumption. Maybe they won't always be the same as a needle in the arm to a politician. However, I think trying to get the veiwpoint to shift towards one being the other or all of it being the same, whether its prescription or illeagal, is a step back 20 years, when it comes to Cannabis.

[Blazed and Confused]

If you're here JUST for this specific "other pychotropics" forum, then of course.. you're not going to like this change. If you're here for both Cannabis and other Psychotropic topics, then you may be a little dissappointed..and for that we're sorry.

So who actually benifits form this decision?

[CocaCola]

Meth is fine.

People are stupid and do Meth to often and screw up their lifes.

Bottom line... it can't get any simpler then that.

[birdgirl73]

Meth is fine.

People are stupid and do Meth to often and screw up their lifes.

Bottom line... it can't get any simpler then that.

You amaze me with your irresponsibility to others, including those younger and even more misguided than you, on this site. You really astonish me with your lack of common decency and humanity in the way you argue for the sake of arguing and being right instead of actually looking at the messages you may be sending or reinforcing. Shame on you for doing that. Please go away and start your own psychotropics site. Go do that as quickly as possible. Please.

[IanCurtisWishlist]

meth actually is not fine. meth actually consumes several thousand lifes, several millions if not billions of dollars. meth addicts behave like a paranoid schizophrenic. meth is very addictive and very abundant. fuck meth and everything about it.

on another note i just took some mescaline and i'm feeling nautious. could we pls keep the discussion of drugs which are not addictive open? many pot-smokers have tripped, and i don't think there's anything wrong with discussing trip reports since drugs you trip off of are not addictive per se, no are they harmful in any physical sense.. just suggesting you might reform the policy.

so let me ask you, are you gonna start banning people who discuss other drugs?

[Jeff Spicoli]

How about you guys act like men and tell us why you're realling taking it down.

[BobBong]

I've merged the two boards concerning this issue together.. as i'm sure people wouldn't want to have their already stated opinions lost when the section is closed...

besides.. some of you make some.. valid points in both of these boards

[Euphoric]

right on..u should make a new forum to replace it tho? just an idea

[CocaCola]

You amaze me with your irresponsibility to others, including those younger and even more misguided than you, on this site. You really astonish me with your lack of common decency and humanity in the way you argue for the sake of arguing and being right instead of actually looking at the messages you may be sending or reinforcing. Shame on you for doing that. Please go away and start your own psychotropics site. Go do that as quickly as possible. Please.
Personally, I don't like Meth either... but I'm not gonna spread bullshit around for a bunch of idiots that got hooked on ingesting chemicals all the time.

My message is very fucking clear, you use Meth... more then once... and you're already an idiot.

So please spare me the bullshit... NO ONE IS FORCING ANYONE TO USE METH NO ONE NO ONE NO ONE. SO FOR FUCK SAKES STOP USING IT THEN IF YOU DON'T WANT TO RISK GETTING HOOKED!!1 WHAT IS SO FUCKING DIFFICULT TO UNDERSTAND, YOU LOAD OF RETARDED PEOPLE?!

God... yeah... don't blame yourself!1 BLAME THE DRUG. THE SUBSTANCE... WITHOUT A CONSCIOUS... WITHOUT MORALS AND RESPONSIBLITY... YEAH, THAT'S THE THING TO BLAME!

Yeah, I love Meth, misconcieve me because I'm telling it as it is.

Fuck I hate this planet... man makes drug... (Even if fucking God makes the drug) man abuses it... always... But NNOOOO it's the drugs fault.

FUCKING DIE RETARDS... BEFORE YOU RUN THIS PLANET INTO THE GROUND.

[the image reaper]

Please BAN Coca-Cola NOW, PERMANENTLY ... (17 years old, too .. ) a year from now, while he's sitting in a dark room, with the shades pulled, his skinny, rotten toothed, scabby arms, he still won't understand whats wrong with his precious meth rat poison ... I have watched too many of my friends rot away from that shit ... tweekers should be shot on sight, spare them their misery ... :mad:

[Psycho4Bud]

http://boards.cannabis.com/showthread.php?t=68266

I posted my feelings on this.

Have a good one!:thumbsup:

[the image reaper]

thank you, Psycho ... I've never requested a ban before, and hope not to again, but he was just way out of line, ... this current "Spring Cleaning" is justified, and can only improve our Forum, in my mind ... :thumbsup:

[birdgirl73]

Thank you, ImageReaper, for the direct request, and you, our dear Psycho4Bud, for such a good deed. That removal was good riddance of bad rubbish.

[timmyrecordz]

damn that sucks. the psychoactive forum is one of the main reasons I joined this site.

[the image reaper]

I would suspect a Google search will turn up whatever info or forums you are looking for ... :smokin:

[robert42]

I can see why there doin it wether or not i agree with it i dunno but i have no say in this

ppl neeed to chill tho coca cola man chill out, its just the net. if this WHOLE site closes ull still be breating after it all

aint no matter of life and death so just go with the flow.

[Nullific]

Please BAN Coca-Cola NOW, PERMANENTLY ... (17 years old, too .. ) a year from now, while he's sitting in a dark room, with the shades pulled, his skinny, rotten toothed, scabby arms, he still won't understand whats wrong with his precious meth rat poison ... I have watched too many of my friends rot away from that shit ... tweekers should be shot on sight, spare them their misery ...
That's fucking bullshit though I think he made it totally clear that he doesn't use meth.

God... yeah... don't blame yourself!1 BLAME THE DRUG. THE SUBSTANCE... WITHOUT A CONSCIOUS... WITHOUT MORALS AND RESPONSIBLITY... YEAH, THAT'S THE THING TO BLAME!
Yup I am pretty sure he was just trying to make a point. A damned good point in my eyes but I suppose the deaf, blind and dumb don't always hear, see or percieve things correctly.


meth actually consumes several thousand lifes, several millions if not billions of dollars. meth addicts behave like a paranoid schizophrenic. meth is very addictive and very abundant.
Damn right it is addictive and abundant...illegal too. Several millions of our dollars going to fight the war on meth, pulling the Sudafed off the shelves and for what? As if law or enforcement is going to stop people from using even methamphetamine. Nope. It just complicates things. Now you've got the meth being produced clandestinely. Some of it is remarkably high purity while the rest is loaded with cuts and intermediates from inadequate purification and incomplete synthesis. Furthermore it is sold by and used to fund criminal organizations. Remember now that the addicts are also criminals and by getting help many fear they will be turning themselves in.

Shutting down other psychotropics will not help legalize cannabis or do anything to stop this notion people have about cannabis being a gateway drug. As far as I know not everybody in the country is rushing on to Cannabis.COM to form or reassess their opinions about marijuana users or marijuana laws.
Be sure not to allow any posts about nicotine or alcohol while you're at it. We wouldn't want people thinking that we're all cigarette smoking drunks.

[Stellar]

Nothing we can ever do will stop anyone from using substances we know are lethal. People with the authority to lock them all up in tiny rooms for years on end can't even do that. I am no fool that believes I will be able to succeed where billions of dollars have failed, simply by believing that cannabis.com isn't for meth. Who really does? Who do you think has the intelligence level low enough to believe that geting rid of the forum will cure the problem?

But, I do have find myself in agreement with one thing;

This is cannabis.com

I don't think that getting rid of the psych forum is going to cure the problems of addictive drugs. Who honestly does? Its not about that. Its about the URL being cannabis.com. When I come here, I am not interested in how to dose heroin or how to best break up my coke so I get real high. I'm here for the plant.

I find that the psychotropics forum could possibly lump me in with cough syrup abusers and coke addicts, just because I post on the same forum network as those people that are using that forum to make it look like these things are wonder drugs. For this reason, and none other, I find myself unable to oppose its deletion.

Nicotine? Alcohol? other psychotropics? There are URLs for that. I type in www.cannabis.com for a reason.

[Polymirize]

I think I totally agree with Null, and probably with Coca-Cola to, since I also read his point as being slightly different. I'm not defending the mode he choose to present that, but, whatever.

Of course, the main point of this thread is not Coca-Cola, but rather the psychotropics section. And BobBong, for all that you're being sympathetic and giving us a place to air grievances and ask questions, do you have any answers? (that goes for any mod).

It seems like there's this motion to try and make cannabis.com mainstream. But cannabis itself is and has always been slightly separated from the mainstream, if only by its lack of public acknowledgement. That being said, just about all of the current members of these boards are, to say the least, slightly separated from the 'mainstream'.

I just hope the new owners aren't ignoring the existing community in the hopes of spreading the word... so to speak.

[Polymirize]

Damn it Stellar, stop strawman-ing the whole damn argument. What's the percentage of threads in Psychotropics that deal with breaking up crack rocks or with injecting heroin?

I see the same sorts of threads through-out the boards. Maybe I'd have more faith in the decision if I had evidence that the mods were actually stepping up against that sort of thing, but it seems that this is just a decision to eliminate the area where those kinds of threads might most logically be posted (as if that deters any stoned poster), and as a result also do away with some of the more intelligent conversation threads on this site.

We all know that the majority of the 'wonderdrug' posts are concerning cannabis. It will make you stronger, faster, better than you were before, it will cure or stop cancer, it will decrease your reaction time and make your orgasms more earthshattering.

Whatever man...

[D.Boone]

i just dont wanna see cannabis.com change...i liked it the way it was when i first found this page and it hasnt really changed much since then and i dont think it should

[Nullific]

But, I do have find myself in agreement with one thing;

This is cannabis.com

I don't think that getting rid of the psych forum is going to cure the problems of addictive drugs. Who honestly does? Its not about that. Its about the URL being cannabis.com. When I come here, I am not interested in how to dose heroin or how to best break up my coke so I get real high. I'm here for the plant.

I find that the psychotropics forum could possibly lump me in with cough syrup abusers and coke addicts, just because I post on the same forum network as those people that are using that forum to make it look like these things are wonder drugs. For this reason, and none other, I find myself unable to oppose its deletion.

Nicotine? Alcohol? other psychotropics? There are URLs for that. I type in www.cannabis.com (http://www.cannabis.com) for a reason.

Then as CocaCola was saying why not get rid of sexuality and spirituality forums also? After all this is Cannabis.com, sexuality and spirituality have their own URLs. I find that the sexuality forum may lump me in with people who try to suck themselves off (http://boards.cannabis.com/showthread.php?t=65670) or are interested in what hand I use to wank (http://boards.cannabis.com/showthread.php?t=68573).
That is sarcasm of course because I don't really fucking care if that is what some people are into talking about. If I don't like the topic I wont read the thread. My cursor even allows me to do this cool trick; when I am browsing a forum I just hold it (the cursor) over the thread title for a second and a little box whispers the first sentence or two of the post. I then use my prior knowledge and higher order thinking skills to cognize the matter of the thread and finally adjudicate whether I would like to investigate it further.

[Psycho4Bud]

Then as CocaCola was saying why not get rid of sexuality and spirituality forums also? After all this is Cannabis.com, sexuality and spirituality have their own URLs. I find that the sexuality forum may lump me in with people who try to suck themselves off (http://boards.cannabis.com/showthread.php?t=65670) or are interested in what hand I use to wank (http://boards.cannabis.com/showthread.php?t=68573).
That is sarcasm of course because I don't really fucking care if that is what some people are into talking about. If I don't like the topic I wont read the thread. My cursor even allows me to do this cool trick; when I am browsing a forum I just hold it (the cursor) over the thread title for a second and a little box whispers the first sentence or two of the post. I then use my prior knowledge and higher order thinking skills to cognize the matter of the thread and finally adjudicate whether I would like to investigate it further.

Good points! By the way....which one was spiritual??? LOL

Seriously though, thinking about it.....none of these matters would cause an overdose...at least I hope not! LOL...and please don't refer to the Rod Stewart rumor. LOL

Not trying to make light of this.......you had very valid points!! Some of that stuff is really over the edge.

Have a good one!:thumbsup:

[Relic2279]

If somebody is being racist, they should be banned...

Offtopic but:
Hopefully we don't start up with this crap here. I'm sooo sick of these diaper wearing politcally correct idiots.
There is a BIG difference between being critical of a minority, and being racist. People poke fun at minorities all the time, but poke fun at the wrong group and you labeled a racist. If I said pollocks are dumb, would I be considered a racist? No. But if I said black love chicken and watermelon, half of you would say I'm a racist.
I hope the moderators see through that line of idiocy. It's not being racist. It's a stigma of the particular minority. I'm irish, I don't get offended when people ask if I drink alot. Nor do I consider them a racist.

It's finally starting to settledown though, in society that is. People like Mencia (mind of mencia, hilarious show) are knocking down those barriers.

[timmyrecordz]

i only been on here for a lil bit but the psychoactive forums were a great source to find out any information about psychoactives. already missing it.

[Psycho4Bud]

Offtopic but:
Hopefully we don't start up with this crap here. I'm sooo sick of these diaper wearing politcally correct idiots.
There is a BIG difference between being critical of a minority, and being racist. People poke fun at minorities all the time, but poke fun at the wrong group and you labeled a racist. If I said pollocks are dumb, would I be considered a racist? No. But if I said black love chicken and watermelon, half of you would say I'm a racist.
I hope the moderators see through that line of idiocy. It's not being racist. It's a stigma of the particular minority. I'm irish, I don't get offended when people ask if I drink alot. Nor do I consider them a racist.

It's finally starting to settledown though, in society that is. People like Mencia (mind of mencia, hilarious show) are knocking down those barriers.

I know what your saying but on the other hand...Mencia is hispanic, when Andrew Dice Clay did the same act people went nuts on him. What may not offend one person does offend someone else.

Lets leave it at this....if ya got nothing good to say...keep it to yourself. Just to save alot of grief.

Have a good one!:thumbsup:

[braddog10]

Then as CocaCola was saying why not get rid of sexuality and spirituality forums also? After all this is Cannabis.com, sexuality and spirituality have their own URLs. I find that the sexuality forum may lump me in with people who try to suck themselves off (http://boards.cannabis.com/showthread.php?t=65670) or are interested in what hand I use to wank (http://boards.cannabis.com/showthread.php?t=68573).
That is sarcasm of course because I don't really fucking care if that is what some people are into talking about. If I don't like the topic I wont read the thread. My cursor even allows me to do this cool trick; when I am browsing a forum I just hold it (the cursor) over the thread title for a second and a little box whispers the first sentence or two of the post. I then use my prior knowledge and higher order thinking skills to cognize the matter of the thread and finally adjudicate whether I would like to investigate it further.


Nullific, I understand what you are saying, It makes good sense, However, we all have a primary interest which brings us together, sure theres stupidity in both forums. Personally, to be able to go to one or more of the subforums is one of my biggest pleasures. Though many of the participants may radically disagree, we still enjoy a common bond.

In spiritual, I have developed a fondness for breukelen advocate and mrdeviate, though I am a christian.

Look, trying to preach on this forum is not what I am interested in, nor what this forum is about, but, I have made friends with people, that in some cases
radically disagre, but, I am the better for it. I would not have found them elsewhere. Trust me, I have not had an interest in going to "religious" forums.

Also ~ Personally, (my view) I feel that discussions regarding Coke and heroin, should absolutely, be forbidden. I lost a very, very close friend to suicide from a dopemine deficient induced depression, due to his coke habit.

To say that, after I got off the phone with his mother, that I wept like a baby, would be very accurate.

Thank you for your time.

[hahaitsdoogle]

BobBong,

you're a fool. ....

In conclusion: â??Uneducationâ?� is not a word.

SMACK.

[hahaitsdoogle]

I'll make it blunt -

by the looks of it 45% of your websites traffic will be lost due to no PsychoActives Area,

but hey, when someone wont advertise your website due to the Psychoactives area you gatta do what you gatta do to make more money, because.. hey, after all its just a website.

[fingers]

Sorry I've only starting using cannabis again after an 8 yr time away..so Im not as privy to the current state of this debate. Is there going to be discussion of other psychoactives permitted?
I have my own views but i dont wish to get involved at this point. I think any intelligent person would have to concede that there are positive effects AND negative effects of discussion. At this point Im just wondering if there is any definative outcome of this issue, in one sentance.."is this thread definately being closed"?

I'm just wondering,

Fingers

[Polymirize]

bump

[Nullific]

Nullific, I understand what you are saying, It makes good sense, However, we all have a primary interest which brings us together, sure theres stupidity in both forums. Personally, to be able to go to one or more of the subforums is one of my biggest pleasures. Though many of the participants may radically disagree, we still enjoy a common bond.

In spiritual, I have developed a fondness for breukelen advocate and mrdeviate, though I am a christian.

Look, trying to preach on this forum is not what I am interested in, nor what this forum is about, but, I have made friends with people, that in some cases
radically disagre, but, I am the better for it. I would not have found them elsewhere. Trust me, I have not had an interest in going to "religious" forums. That's great...but nobody is threatening to close the spirituality forum.


Also ~ Personally, (my view) I feel that discussions regarding Coke and heroin, should absolutely, be forbidden. I lost a very, very close friend to suicide from a dopemine deficient induced depression, due to his coke habit. Cocaine and heroin discussions are minor topics in the Other Psychotropics forum and closing it wont prevent anybody from using cocaine or heroin anyways. Personally, I feel that such incidents and consequences of cocaine abuse are exacerbated by poor education, current drug policy and an ignorant public in general.

Close the Pyschotropics Forum, I can't stop you. But I'll fight for my drugs until they go and I follow.

[slipknotpsycho]

That's actually exactly what the new owners are trying to do. Make this site much more mainstream... hopefully educating more people that have massive misconceptions about cannabis.. like the "gateway drug" thing, or that smoking it will cure whatever ails you. We're trying to get cannabis more accepted by people who have been fed biased opinions about it, as i think we ALL are fed at some point.
You may be right.. and bye closing down the Psychotropic area may force people to go elsewhere to get this information, we may even lose a few respected members...but if the direction this site is traveling does not include Psychotropics..then it will not include other Psychotropics..

We're more concerned with educating and helping to fix misconceptions many, many people in our society have about cannabis.

i knew there was some type of catch or reason why this site suddenly changed ownership after ron had held it up for so long... now i understand it all... the new owner(s) bought (i assume they bought it, or maybe it's a friend of ron's i dunno) it so that they could make it much more 'society acceptable' am i right? i think they're goal is ultimately, to lead to the wide acceptance of marijuana, by society. which is admirable, but it makes me wonder, how much more is going, how much more is going to change, and how much more censored this site is about to become...

[hubblebubble]

Fuck Them, maybe we should boycott cannabis.com and employ hackers to wreak havoc with them

[slipknotpsycho]

i doubt boycotting is going to work, hell, if they really are doing what i'm thinking they're doing, and they're going to take it as far as they can, you may wind up seeing a cannabis.com commercial, much as you always see those 'truth' commericals...

[Polymirize]

Look, cannabis is illegal. So obviously the approach has to be education and encouraging people to make up their own minds rather than just accept what they're told. I don't understand why making a push for "responsible use" of cannabis eliminates the possibility of "responsible use" of other drugs. Which isn't to say that all drugs can be used responsibly, but come on, an entire section doesn't need to be eliminated because of a couple coke heads. Just delete the coke threads.

[WaKeNvAp]

Seriously though, thinking about it.....none of these matters would cause an overdose...you had very valid points!! Some of that stuff is really over the edge.

Have a good one!:thumbsup:

what "stuff" was really over the edge and how? not bein a dic*, just curious.
are we worried about an overdose of illegal drugs, or 5 belladonna berrie OD? are we worried about age here or the age requirement is more like guiedlines?
are we going to get banned if we talk about other psychoactives?
what really burns me is we can hear about girls getting trained, people stealing drugs of all sorts, people getting hit in the eye with an ejaculation (not illegal, but cannabis/semen in eye? how are they related?) psychtropics forum needed better moderation, rather than closing shop.
my point is, "if i give one person a piece of candy, i have to give everyone a piece of candy." i smell someone else eating candy, but i dont have my piece...

[OniEhtRedrum781]

Look, cannabis is illegal. So obviously the approach has to be education and encouraging people to make up their own minds rather than just accept what they're told. I don't understand why making a push for "responsible use" of cannabis eliminates the possibility of "responsible use" of other drugs. Which isn't to say that all drugs can be used responsibly, but come on, an entire section doesn't need to be eliminated because of a couple coke heads. Just delete the coke threads.

i agree. There's a big difference between a drug user and a drug addict. In moderation, any drug can and will be fun, its up to the person, whether or not they want to be responsible, and i don't think it should decide whether or not an entire section should be closed..

[Psycho4Bud]

what "stuff" was really over the edge and how? not bein a dic*, just curious.
are we worried about an overdose of illegal drugs, or 5 belladonna berrie OD? are we worried about age here or the age requirement is more like guiedlines?
are we going to get banned if we talk about other psychoactives?
what really burns me is we can hear about girls getting trained, people stealing drugs of all sorts, people getting hit in the eye with an ejaculation (not illegal, but cannabis/semen in eye? how are they related?) psychtropics forum needed better moderation, rather than closing shop.
my point is, "if i give one person a piece of candy, i have to give everyone a piece of candy." i smell someone else eating candy, but i dont have my piece...

Did you actually read my post and see what I was referring to? What's over the edge? Threads like this: "try to suck themselves off" or are interested in "what hand I use to wank." You have to agree with me on that.

As for the banning issue, NOTHING has been stated regarding that. The only thing that was stated/and done is we lost a forum. Nothing more or less.

I don't make the rules; I, like the other mods, just have to follow the guidelines like everyone else. Hell, you name it and I've probably done it so who am I to say if someone should or shouldn't talk about it. I agree fully that we all need to accept the fact that it is our own fault if we take to much...or something to often. Been there, done that........I didn't blame the cola...the cola blamed me.

Have a good one!:thumbsup:

[WeedLovingVeteran]

I seriously cant believe the amount of ban's that have been put in place....should I think three or four times over what I have typed encase I get banned as well?

I hope this site withers and fades in timeâ?¦â?¦youâ??re losing your fan base, what the hell are you doing? Obviously the site with carry on due to the members who either suck ass in an attempt to be liked to escape from their own bleak reality and you will have the other half that just donâ??t give a flying fuck about the direction of the site.

[Psycho4Bud]

I seriously cant believe the amount of ban's that have been put in place....should I think three or four times over what I have typed encase I get banned as well?

I hope this site withers and fades in timeâ?¦â?¦youâ??re losing your fan base, what the hell are you doing? Obviously the site with carry on due to the members who either suck ass in an attempt to be liked to escape from their own bleak reality and you will have the other half that just donâ??t give a flying fuck about the direction of the site.

Are you selling after being warned? Are you looking for a hook-up after being warned? Are you ripping someone a new ass for no just reason just because you think that's your right? If not, don't worry about it. The ones that are banned did exacty that!

Have a good one!:thumbsup:

[WaKeNvAp]

Did you actually read my post and see what I was referring to? What's over the edge? Threads like this: "try to suck themselves off" or are interested in "what hand I use to wank." You have to agree with me on that.

As for the banning issue, NOTHING has been stated regarding that. The only thing that was stated/and done is we lost a forum. Nothing more or less.

I don't make the rules; I, like the other mods, just have to follow the guidelines like everyone else. Hell, you name it and I've probably done it so who am I to say if someone should or shouldn't talk about it. I agree fully that we all need to accept the fact that it is our own fault if we take to much...or something to often. Been there, done that........I didn't blame the cola...the cola blamed me.

Have a good one!:thumbsup:
Underlined: that was a question, and I thank you for indirectly answering it
Underlined Italic: he admitted to that last bit being sarcastic, and that was the lesser of the remarks, so
BOLD: i will not agree with you because there is a thread, a poll i believe, thats says, "can you suck your own dick?"
and as for the rest of what you said, i understand, and im not mad at you, im just mad that the mod's focus was misprioritized with substances similar to cannabis(however slightly) rather than topics which have NOTHING to do with cannabis. im just dumbfounded beyond belief...

[harmonicminor]

I think the other phsycotropics forum was a good place for the uneducated on different substances learn the truth other than thier peers would tell them or school textbooks or commercials on tv. Maybe they could learn of other LEGAL entheogens and find a link to order some instead of going down to thier street corner where all the losers peddle thier garbage. Maybe that alone could save some lives. Maybe that could take some money out of criminals fingers. Maybe they could learn of other substances that could be used instead of nasty pharamceuticals that are plant based in the first place but they are just purified and dont have the other chemicals that balance it out.
while some sections dont deal with cannabis most of them deal with growing it. Is that gonna help decriminalization??? NO
kinda like here kid we want to decriminalize pot but to get you started heres how to grow it. and heres how to pass the drug test
whatever

[thcbongman]

I don't understand their logic.

To beat the man, you become the man.

Eventually we can't post about the act of smoking since it's "illegal." We can only pretend to talk about it.

[asintx]

Folks, let's get it back to basics... this is CANNABIS.com. Cannabis is the purpose of this site. *THAT'S* why I'm here. 'Nuff said.

[harmonicminor]

hmmm
remove the section on other psycotripics that deals with legal ones and the facts about others so newbs can post more pics of thier grow?
sounds kinda fishy to me
anyone smell bacon?

[thcbongman]

This is just my theory, but this isn't the first cannabis site to shutdown their "Other High" section. I have a feeling there is pressure from some outside influence that has a hand in this. Maybe it's legislation, maybe it's law enforcement, but hell they aren't going to tell us.

[Nullific]

Folks, let's get it back to basics... this is CANNABIS.com. Cannabis is the purpose of this site. *THAT'S* why I'm here. 'Nuff said. http://boards.cannabis.com/showpost.php?p=809346&postcount=101

I don't know which of you obstinate ninnies is making the final decisions around here now, but I'll see you in hell you fuck.

[harmonicminor]

right,
I believe talking SEXUALITY with minors is bad isnt it?

[Inferius]

Freedom of Speach? Speach? Peach? Speech? GAH!
Anyway, I know i don't post here often, but thats usually becuase I have nothing to say, and I prefer other forums with less rules. I always found the internet as a safe haven for ideas and discussion, of any type, but now...
Too many bad vibes in this place. Anyone with an ignorance of whatever they post about shall be notified by the other posters/moderators. Anyone with an ill intention would be banned.
What else is there to talk about???
There is no good or evil... only within our actions and ourselves do we perceive negativity/positivity. We have all seen what extremely physically/psychologically addicting drugs can do to a person, and society. If someone decides to use, it's their descision. But by limiting their knoledge and their reach for the knoledge of others on such a thing this site is cancelling that persons' chances of making the right descision.
If someone says something absolutely idiotic, like something I read earlier "Meth Is Good' or something similar, we have enough posters to respond with a more knoledgable opinion. But ending all discussion on the matter is only harming, not helping.
..just my 2 cents. Takeitorleaveit.
This site is about weed. Sure it is. But within the realms of conversation, things will never stay on one topic unless someone else decides it. And they did.

[minnesota man]

Inferious, don't worry about your post count. You write a lot in your posts and it seems to be good thoughtful information. Seriously, welcome to the boards.

[asintx]

http://boards.cannabis.com/showpost.php?p=809346&postcount=101

I don't know which of you obstinate ninnies is making the final decisions around here now, but I'll see you in hell you fuck.

Nice.

[Polymirize]

Folks, let's get it back to basics... this is CANNABIS.com. Cannabis is the purpose of this site. *THAT'S* why I'm here. 'Nuff said.

It must be relaxing to have so one-sided a personality

[OnionsOfLove]

Here are some links to threads from some of the boards you find more useful than the "other psychoactives" board..

http://boards.cannabis.com/showthread.php?t=66065
http://boards.cannabis.com/showthread.php?t=68573
http://boards.cannabis.com/showthread.php?t=57667
http://boards.cannabis.com/showthread.php?t=69843

Personally, I think the post about amanitas muscaria aka ibo tengutake etc should be in the sexuality forums because it deals specifically with sexual acts. In my opinion, it has nothing whatsoever to do with spirituality. Im sure most people will agree with me, however I do believe that the poster does indeed relate it to something spiritual.

But that's all beside the point. Let me start over...

Weed is a psychoactive. It puts your mind in a strange place and makes you feel strange things. At high enough doses, I have gotten CEV's. If this doesnt warrant discussion about "other psychoactives", I dont know what does. Personally, I have never related weed with medicine. Nor have I related it with sexuality, or had the desire to participate in "activism". The fact that I relate weed with psychoactives is NOT, however, a personal choice. It is FACT. Every single person who has ever done weed or who wants to discuss it is DISCUSSING A PSYCHOACTIVE. To eliminate discussion of other psychoactives (if even just for comparison purposes) is completely naive.

BobBong, most of what you have posted in this thread is very assumptuous. Please read:


You seem like the type of person that would go around the world telling people that cannabis is the cure all for most of life's problems or even beneficial to your health
Why do you choose to have a "medicine and health" board on a "PURELY" marijuana based forum?


"As i'm sure you think DXM is harmless"
Please Bob, master of all that is DXM, tell us why DXM is not harmless. Oh wait, you dont know everything about DXM, do you? Wouldn't it have been great to be able to gather information about DXM from the forum that youre an administrator on? Well, you cant now.


"Well we object to people educating 'Kids' how to abuse and use harder 'drugs' than cannabis."
First of all, teaching someone to abuse something is not education, my friend. Thats just plain fucked up. And I dont think ANYONE on this forum would disagree with that. However, you seem to think that "teaching" children to "abuse" cannabis is completely ok. So I will go smoke out a 6 year old and tell his parents that my good friend BobBong said it was ok.


"The closing of this section will by far.. be a VERY good step to eradicating this idea that you can get high off of anything without any concequences to yourself at all."
Who has that idea? As if there is someone who belongs to this forum that gets completely destroyed (name a substance, doesnt matter) and believes that he is a completely functioning member of society. Sorry, doesnt happen. Even if I did read a post in the psychoactives forum that said "HEY GUYS DO ACID 24/7 ITS TOTALLY OK" I wouldnt automatically believe in it. You should give people more credit. Maybe they would give you some back.


"Uneducation is one thing...misleading information is another."
Correct you are sir, which is why forums were invented in the first place. If it werent for the sharing of information, be it correct or incorrect, people would all believe whatever information they were given. They would not have a chance to deliberate in their own minds between right and wrong. I cant remember the last time I learned something and immediately accepted it as truth without weighing it against all the other knowledge I have accumulated in my life. In other words, the sharing of lots of different information from lots of different people is what eliminates the incorrect information. Forums are places where lots of people come together and... share information.

Bob: I was going to tear apart all of your other posts as well, but I think you can see that I would have my work cut out for me. Please dont take offense, the issue is not you and me, it is this forum and psychoactives. I am simply arguing for my side.

The reasons for the closing of the psychoactives forum are remaining private. I can see no reason for this. We are on a forum, and we are a community. We are here to share. Please share.

"Legal highs" are being advertised all over the website. I actually didnt belong to the forums until the adminstration changed over, so I cant make any blind assumptions, but I can still ask: since when have these advertisements been on the site? Did they start popping up on the sidebars close to the time that PM's were disabled? Or close to the time, perhaps, that you were no longer able to email the administrator of the website?

The community on this website is very large. It is sad to see it being run by an aspiring corporate whore.

And a sidenote directed more towards the people on my side than the other side. The spirituality forum is definitely a keeper simply because of the fact that when youre high (on anything), you innately question basic concepts such as time, happiness, and so on. Somewhere down the road during a discussion about these things you'll end up touching on some concept of god or existance or what have you. Discussion about these things belongs, obviously, in the spirituality forum.

Cheers.

[OnionsOfLove]

And this post brings me to another incredibly ridiculous issue with the administrator, who is not BobBong.

I am not able to edit/delete posts 5 minutes after I post them.

Yesterday I posted a picture of a large amount of weed on the forum. I posted it because I thought maybe someone would recognize it as a strain theyve grown before or whatever. I felt safe posting it simply because I thought I would be able to take it down in a short amount of time. Now I cant, and whoever knows that I have this account on this forum will also know that I have possession of quite a bit of weed. They could potentially RUIN MY ENTIRE LIFE based on the fact that I posted that picture. Does the administrator recognize this problem? Does he even care? Doubt it.

Now on to the edit that I was trying to make to my last post:

I do indeed understand that BobBong is not choosing to leave the medicine and health board on this forum. By choose I meant advocate.

I also understand that Bob is only a moderator. Administrator just came out of my fingertips anyway.

The comment I made about Bob giving people credit and them giving it back to him was fueled by disgust. I admit I am human.

<3

[ghandi]

You can still get on the Psychoactive forum... I did it by accident looking at sundances old posts clicked on the thread in the Psychoactive forum and it let me look there I didnt open any threads though so i'm not sure it works properly just thought i should let mods know...

[slipknotpsycho]

And this post brings me to another incredibly ridiculous issue with the administrator, who is not BobBong.

I am not able to edit/delete posts 5 minutes after I post them.

Yesterday I posted a picture of a large amount of weed on the forum. I posted it because I thought maybe someone would recognize it as a strain theyve grown before or whatever. I felt safe posting it simply because I thought I would be able to take it down in a short amount of time. Now I cant, and whoever knows that I have this account on this forum will also know that I have possession of quite a bit of weed. They could potentially RUIN MY ENTIRE LIFE based on the fact that I posted that picture. Does the administrator recognize this problem? Does he even care? Doubt it.

Now on to the edit that I was trying to make to my last post:

I do indeed understand that BobBong is not choosing to leave the medicine and health board on this forum. By choose I meant advocate.

I also understand that Bob is only a moderator. Administrator just came out of my fingertips anyway.

The comment I made about Bob giving people credit and them giving it back to him was fueled by disgust. I admit I am human.

<3
there's a simple solution to this problem, dont' post the picture to begin with. if you don't feel safe enough to leave it up permanantly, then just don't post it. Second of all, are you really so paranoid you feel your life will be destroyed from a picture? if so, perhaps you should look into some good anti-psychotic medications (until you admit it's yours, no one can prove anything to begin with)

[OnionsOfLove]

The fact that you know nothing about me or my life would lead me to believe that you would be smart enough not to make such an ignorant post. I wanted to find out what strain it was that I bought recently, and the fact that I am buying again is a dangerous thing for me, considering my past. YOUR life may not be so easy to ruin. MINE is.

I am SIMPLY arguing for the ability to edit my own posts. There are a hundred other arguments I could make in favor of the edit button, the argument I made just happened to be one that seemed most pertinent.. My so called "psychotic" behavior has nothing to do with the edit button.

Had I known, sir, that I was not able to delete my own post, I wouldnt have posted it to begin with. You seem to be missing the point entirely.

[slipknotpsycho]

Ok, you're right, i'm wrong, and i bow to your mightyness. (that is what you wanted to hear right?)

I don't need to know you, to know that your life can't be ruined with just a picture, it seems to me your building a false world around a reason to be able to go back days/weeks/months/years later and be able to edit your post. Again, if you don't feel safe enough with the picture being there permanantly, then don't post it at all, it's that simple. Also, if you don't already know no one can tell you what strain you possess soley by a picture (sure they can make an educated guess, but no one can tell you for sure.) then perhaps you shouldn't be buying in the first place, judge the marijuana by the marijauna and not the name, either way i'm done with this thread as i see no reason to keep it alive when the forum is already gone, and the thread it's self seems to of gone way off topic.

[OnionsOfLove]

it seems to me your building a false world around a reason...
you dont know me and you still make assumptions about me?


if you don't feel safe enough with the picture being there permanantly...
i wouldnt have posted the picture had i known it was impossible to take down; i wont be posting pictures again.


judge the marijuana by the marijauna and not the name...
im not judging it by strain, im simply curious

this could be handled by PM, but i would have to become a paying member to do that. yet another flaw with this forum.

[Euphoric]

http://boards.cannabis.com/showpost.php?p=809346&postcount=101

I don't know which of you obstinate ninnies is making the final decisions around here now, but I'll see you in hell you fuck.

lol thats my new favorite post. Itd make a good bumper sticker

[OniEhtRedrum781]

Damn, why did I come back to this thread? It just made me miss the psychoactives section even more....

[OniEhtRedrum781]

I've got a better question... why did you bump this old post?

I'm bored and its 4 in the morning