Attention to the new OWNER: Ban the Minors ...

[the image reaper]

while I realize its not easy to judge the age of a member, I feel whenever it is obvious they are minors, (and there are currently MANY in here), they should be permanently banned from Cannabis.com ... it sends the wrong messages, it is Illegal, and draws the wrong kind of attention to this website ... we need to present a public conception of us, as responsible people ... it will prove to be impossible to ever get MJ legalization, etc, if we maintain this "teen stoner" "ghetto thug" image ... I fully expect to be flamed, but I have to say what I feel is right ... any parent discovering this website would be outraged, and probably will be referring their Congressman to it's existence ... if you think the government just 'stumbled' onto Overgrow, etc, don't kid yourself ... they didn't 'cover their ass' ... if you pull the Tiger's tail, you should expect to be hurt ... just my un-wanted two cents ... :smokin:

[Shelbay]

You are right..I read a post by a well known member saying he wouldnt be posting as much because he had to turn his schools computer in..would that not stand to reason when they find this website on it that they could make a dateline story out of how schools computers are being used? I thought there were restrictions on teenagers access to certain sites when using school equipment? I just thought of his post when I read yours...something serious to think about imo..

[beachguy in thongs]

Plus, I can't show dirty photos. :smokin:

[the image reaper]

I know I probably come off as an uptight Nazi, or something, but it's just that I feel we will never make any progress with marijuana, if we don't present a better public image ... like it or not, laws are only changed by Voters, and political pressures ... there are damned few politicians or movers/shakers that are going to risk their careers over stoners that don't vote, talk nonsense, and can't write a thoughtful, intelligent letter for their support ... I could be in here sayin "dawg dude i wuz stond so kewl inskool tooday + bepimpin like a mofo too faroutdoods" ... instead, I used that time to write a letter to Senator Barbara Feinstein, seeking her support for medical marijuana (I actually received a non-form letter from her office ... she danced around the issue, saying she only supports medical marijuana for Cancer, and AIDS (she cant survive without that homo vote in the Bay area) ... but, you see my point: if we don't police ourselves, LEO will be happy to help ... :smokin:

[Shelbay]

dirty photos..hmmm...dishes? kitchen? clothes? whats dirty beachguy:smokin:

[Shelbay]

Why ban people because there underage? Why can't everyone share a common thing...marijuana. I'm about 14 and I don't "Display the ghetto thug image"...as a matter of fact, I bet no one would even think I do weed...
Because i would like to know if knowingly having teenagers post their age and letting them post is illegal..thats one thing I don't want to share..

[the image reaper]

Why ban people because there underage? Why can't everyone share a common thing...marijuana. I'm about 14 and I don't "Display the ghetto thug image"...as a matter of fact, I bet no one would even think I do weed...

you make it obvious, that you are cordial, intelligent, and concerned ... my problem with you being in these Forums is not a personal attack ... my only concern is the fact that we are, technically, "contributing to the delinquency of a Minor", which can be a serious offense in most areas of America, and more importantly, (because I am not a zealot about obeying the Law :D ), I am an adult of some years, that can see the laziness, lack of motivation, and diminished self-respect that occurs with young stoners ... disagree all you want, I defend your rights, but "youthful drug use is WRONG and is only going to negatively affect your life" ... I purposely used quotation marks to illustrate my strong opinion on that issue ... another example of my un-wanted opinions, I suppose ... :D

[Shelbay]

So your saying if I tell people my age that it's illegal? It's my choice if I wanna post my age.
Even at the expense of others you would exercise your "right"? That is selfish if it is illegal and you know it is...if it contributes to this place being done like other sites..you think that is just your choice?

[the image reaper]

again, you come off intelligently ... I do wish you a good life, and health ... have a great weekend ... :smokin:

[Garden Knowm]

you smoke and you are 14...?

ilove you

I share this with you for thought...not to tell you what to do....

as a gifted human specimen of incredible and mind boggling athletic ability and physical prowess... I am very aware of the fact that smoking does damge to these gifts of mine...

if I would have smoked prior to the age of 23, I am sure that these gifts would have never reached there full potential... it is permenantly dibilitating to the body to intoduce toxins to it before it reaches maturity... damage done to the body at a young ages inhibits potential growth and maturation....

at 14 you are growing..growing... developing ... it is important to nuture your body with the best the world has to offer...

iloveyou

the BULL

[Psycho4Bud]

while I realize its not easy to judge the age of a member, I feel whenever it is obvious they are minors, (and there are currently MANY in here), they should be permanently banned from Cannabis.com ... it sends the wrong messages, it is Illegal, and draws the wrong kind of attention to this website ... we need to present a public conception of us, as responsible people ... it will prove to be impossible to ever get MJ legalization, etc, if we maintain this "teen stoner" "ghetto thug" image ... I fully expect to be flamed, but I have to say what I feel is right ... any parent discovering this website would be outraged, and probably will be referring their Congressman to it's existence ... if you think the government just 'stumbled' onto Overgrow, etc, don't kid yourself ... they didn't 'cover their ass' ... if you pull the Tiger's tail, you should expect to be hurt ... just my un-wanted two cents ... :smokin:

There are a clear set of rules posted in a sticky in both the lounge areas. SOME of the adults in here act worse than the kids....hell, I've got some hate e-mail to prove that! Bottom line is this, you won't get flamed for your views because it is against forum policy and it will be enforced, verbal warnings seem NOT to be working that well as of late...hint, hint!

If you under 18 and feel the need to strike out....better do it at home with your parents because it will not be tolorated in here by myself and hopefully others. SHOW RESPECT AND KEEP IT REAL!!!

As far as contributing.......if someone is under age and asks for growing tips...I just wouldn't reply.

Have a good one!:thumbsup:

[Garden Knowm]

Sweet! kick butt...
love is you

[the image reaper]

I know this and when soccer and basketball season starts, I'm going to be done until there over with.

I must say, it is a welcome relief to read a young person's comments that are intelligent and well-written, like these are ... I may be an old grouch, but I am well-meaning ... just the 'Daddy' in me, ... yeah, my 27 year old son thinks I'm full of sh*t, too ... :smokin:

[t3chyo]

I know this and when soccer and basketball season starts, I'm going to be done until there over with.

14? And you act mature! Well done:)

btw: nice avatar:rasta:

[puffpuffand away]

i am in total agreement with u reaper...
im not good with word,s, but ur words tell it all...
its terrible how some of these young people come in here and talk...
there r some young people that come in here and make good sence...
but the 1,s that think its kewl 2 come in here and trash up this site, should some how b banned...

[florida boy 3]

well spoken for all of us reaper, things do need to change.

[beachguy in thongs]

I know I probably come off as an uptight Nazi, or something, but it's just that I feel we will never make any progress with marijuana, if we don't present a better public image ... like it or not, laws are only changed by Voters, and political pressures ... there are damned few politicians or movers/shakers that are going to risk their careers over stoners that don't vote, talk nonsense, and can't write a thoughtful, intelligent letter for their support ... I could be in here sayin "dawg dude i wuz stond so kewl inskool tooday + bepimpin like a mofo too faroutdoods" ... instead, I used that time to write a letter to Senator Barbara Feinstein, seeking her support for medical marijuana (I actually received a non-form letter from her office ... she danced around the issue, saying she only supports medical marijuana for Cancer, and AIDS (she cant survive without that homo vote in the Bay area) ... but, you see my point: if we don't police ourselves, LEO will be happy to help ... :smokin:

I remember seeing somewhere (something like), "They even have online communities for stoners to hang out and chat (in a serious tone)." Well, it's hard to say serious tone, just that the surrounding text wasn't negative.


dirty photos..hmmm...dishes? kitchen? clothes? whats dirty beachguy:smokin:

All of the above. Do you charge by the hour?

[rsbluerelm]

I see this.And i think of what could happen i relize that maybe minors should be banned and it should be shown with effort that if u express ur under 18 u will be banned just to cover our ass.(but i believe they should be able come and post in the cannibus comminuty just act 18)

[Its a Plant]

who cares

That's all that needs to be said.
If someone pisses you off that much, put them on your ignore list.
Why are us hippies trying to exclude people? That doesn't make sense. Seriously, if we had an age limit it'd be a bunch of old timers. You need new blood, as long as it's good blood. lol. I guess I don't let petty shit like this get to me, but jeesh, stop bringing up the age limit thing.

[P.E.N.G.U.I.N.]

Very true. I guess I'm a fairly well-respected member of this community, despite my age limit. I have noticed that this place is beginning to lose its value from kids coming in here who think they're doing something special by making complete fools and asses of themselves. In the 6 months I've been here, I've seen this place go from a place with just a few assholes to being full of mostly underage assholes. On banning, however, it should be based on a person's attitude and posting. I strongly believe minors can also be intelligent like any adult, you shouldn't throw us all in a worthless pile of shit group and ban us.

:twocents:

Have a nice day.

[beachguy in thongs]

I have an idea for all the people who don't want children in the forums, they can become cafe members and have the moderators post stickies to all the visitors who come in to see what a pothead is like to check out the view-only cafe members forum.

[beachguy in thongs]

Man, these cannibinoid receptors work.

[Its a Plant]

lol.

Bigger is better.

[mobay]

whatever happens, i hope it happens fast, cause these kids will be getting out of school soon. with nothing else to do but get on mom and dads computer while they are at work.
another thing in the indoor grow room , there are way to many questions being asked , simply when zandor tells people to check the facts before posting. can the mods start deleting these new post that pop up , by these kids? the only thing people have to do is check the facts.

[beachguy in thongs]

Getting out of school doesn't mean anything, because kids are out of school all day. Summertime, those cranky little bastards should be outside.

[Skink]

I got an Idea * lets put all the little kids on an island and

[birdgirl73]

I don't see how a discussion board like this could in reality ban minors anyway. An IP address doesn't have an age associated with it, does it? And how would that ever be enforced even if there were a way to reliably screen for ages? It may be a nice idea, but it has no real practical execution, does it, other than the watchful eye of the mods? They're right that there are some really bad-mannered grownups on here, too, who throw fits and flame the mods like they're 13-year-olds. I'd practically rather screen for emotional maturity and common decency than chronological age. . . .

[the image reaper]

here's a thread I just stumbled upon, quite by accident ... read it, and tell me there isn't a kiddie problem here ... http://boards.cannabis.com/showthread.php?p=802573#post802573

[birdgirl73]

here's a thread I just stumbled upon, quite by accident ... read it, and tell me there isn't a kiddie problem here ... http://boards.cannabis.com/showthread.php?p=802573#post802573
Oh dear, Image Reaper. I hadn't seen that. You're right about the kid thing on that one, I'm sad to say. I had to respond to that thread itself. My husband, who's a physician, is going to roll on the floor laughing for an hour when he reads that one.

[the image reaper]

yes, it's sad, all right ... I don't think your husband will be laughing when he reads the responses that came after your post there ... definitely a few needing banning in that thread, alone ... I am just disgusted by the whole thing anymore, to hell with it all

[halo]

Marijuana is just as illegal for a 14 year old as 50 year old.

[beachguy in thongs]

Not really. There are more medical marijuana patients who are 50 than 14.

[Its a Plant]

No one forces anyone to open up all the threads. If you see one you know might be infested with little kids, then don't open it. I really still don't see what the frickin' deal is?

[beachguy in thongs]

I say we ban all the adults. They keep opening thread on banning kids.

We'll ban all the adults and then the kids will think the site has been taken over by the feds. But, we'll just appear as banned...

edit: I meant this one.

[beachguy in thongs]

Moderators, delete my post in 300 seconds.

[birdgirl73]

yes, it's sad, all right ... I don't think your husband will be laughing when he reads the responses that came after your post there ... definitely a few needing banning in that thread, alone ... I am just disgusted by the whole thing anymore, to hell with it all

He'll probably still laugh. The sad thing is he won't laugh when he sees that poor idiot and any young'uns he's provided his expert advice to being rolled into the ER, seizing and needing kidney dialysis. . . .

I see what you mean when you say "to hell with it all." The kiddie problem certainly seems rather hopeless when you read posts like that from people like that.

[Stellar]

Banning kids won't root out the explicit problem of these boards.

People that call themselves adults aren't always top notch, either.

Having more active moderation would be a better thing to push for. Having someone with some executive ability that knows when a question has been asked thousands of times before someone else just asked it would solve the biggest problem I see on this forum. I am only bothered by reading the same question from a new person everyday. Charging someone to condense this knowledge or someone that is active in erasing both the accounts and threads of those asking a question that has already been asked one thread below them would cure one of the bigest things that makes this board a joke, in my opinion.

Forgive me for the offensive connotation behind this, but I just have not seen any active moderation on this forum since joining. I mean, maybe it happens. However, I don't read most threads that have nothing to do with Cannabis or its medicinal effects, or how to grow it properly. Maybe they are active in areas... That have nothing to do with anything this site should be about... But, like I said, I'm not there or to see it, as those materials are not what i come here to read. Meanwhile, the items bringing the intellectual property of the website down to 72 are ignored.

My opinion. I am sure its impolite. I knind of want it o be. Tending to insult fests and such is great. What about tending to things that annoy the living shit about hose actually here to talk about the plant, though? Again, I am sure it happens, its just that, i don't see it occur is enough force to give me any faith.

[Stellar]

I guess, one thing to sum it up in less than a long and horribly mispelled essay;

Scientifically, this site is suffering. Socially, its booming. I find that it should be for both, depending on what one person wants from it. However, Science appears neglected in favor of seperating people who can't get along. Maybe one can be accomplished by banning all the children... But where do you want hem to learn about things? I'd rather teach a child than tell an adult to stop calling somone a fag.

[beachguy in thongs]

There should be a mass-deleting of threads. Three votes from different IP addresses for a thread to be deleted.

I pass the conch to Robert42.

I said it, and then erased it.

[LovelyTasha]

Banning minors wouldn't do a damned thing. The drug is already illegal and there's no age barrier on it anyway. How many of you started smoking when you were a teenager and still do it? Some teenagers are wise beyond their years and extremely intelligent.

When you say "we need to present a public conception of us, as responsible people ... it will prove to be impossible to ever get MJ legalization..." you make a generalization that all young people are idiots and unresponsible.

Also, do you really think the ages on a MESSAGE BOARD will really aide in getting marijuana legal? I don't think so.

For one, I am glad these msg boards are here for all the misguided teenagers posing in the recreational forums that they want to take a bottle of benadryl to trip!

<3

[Skink]

pot and levity go hand in hand... Lighten up peeps...

[Dutch Pimp]

There are a clear set of rules posted in a sticky in both the lounge areas. SOME of the adults in here act worse than the kids....hell, I've got some hate e-mail to prove that! Bottom line is this, you won't get flamed for your views because it is against forum policy and it will be enforced, verbal warnings seem NOT to be working that well as of late...hint, hint!

If you under 18 and feel the need to strike out....better do it at home with your parents because it will not be tolorated in here by myself and hopefully others. SHOW RESPECT AND KEEP IT REAL!!!

As far as contributing.......if someone is under age and asks for growing tips...I just wouldn't reply.

Have a good one!:thumbsup:
I just got flamed on another weed site: for proposing that minor's posts be ignored.

[Psycho4Bud]

I just got flamed on another weed site: for proposing that minor's posts be ignored.

Flaming is ALL DONE in here, enjoy!

Have a good one!:thumbsup:

[Dutch Pimp]

Flaming is ALL DONE in here, enjoy!

Have a good one!:thumbsup:
Freedom of speech is still alive on the internet.

[Psycho4Bud]

You want to state an opinion...no problems. If your out to lash at someone...better keep it to yourself.

This has gotten way out of hand as of late and there have been compaint after complaint regarding the flaming in here. IT'S DONE!

Have a good one!:thumbsup:

[BobBong]

You want to state an opinion...no problems. If your out to lash at someone...better keep it to yourself.

This has gotten way out of hand as of late and there have been compaint after complaint regarding the flaming in here. IT'S DONE!

Have a good one!:thumbsup:

Agree'd.. you want to set an age limit for this site? Then some of you need to stop acting like kids...

[IanCurtisWishlist]

i personally think it would be hard to prove in a court of law, beyond reasonable doubt, that cannabis.com is contributing to deliquency of a minor. it's like when people commit fraud on ebay, it's not ebay who is charged with fraud; it's the seller.. you know?

[CBsDankNugs]

how would you ban minors? anyone can lie about their age. someone could be 40 and act like theyre 12. if someone is being a little fuck head the mods will take care of it.

[CBsDankNugs]

o yea by the way pot is lllegal. there is no pot smoking age. just cuz someone is over 18 they are better then a minor. i dont think so.

[iamapatient]

Ban them...they're part of the problem not the solution.

[kush07]

One of the first things I noticed about this site was the non-age restrictions. I didn't think much of it cause I believe that all people are capable of intelligent thought and age should be no restriction. People can easily lie about their age on a online forum. The only problem I have with some "kids" on this site is the immaturity shown by the few. For it is the few that ruin it for the many.

On another note: This is a question to the mods, why have there been a rush of bans recently? Is this part of the new owners thing or is this just a crackdown?

Happy Toking :rasta:

[Its a Plant]

This really is odd I must say. To be sitting back watching the cc.com I once knew and loved unfold before my eyes is a sad sight. Not that anything's wrong, there's just a lot of changes and for the most part there seem's to be a huge cloud of negativity hangin' around us all...

I say mods do your thing I'm not for getting in the way. I just hope that same atmosphere that first drew me in returns soon..

[Nova]

This really is odd I must say. To be sitting back watching the cc.com I once knew and loved unfold before my eyes is a sad sight. Not that anything's wrong, there's just a lot of changes and for the most part there seem's to be a huge cloud of negativity hangin' around us all...

I say mods do your thing I'm not for getting in the way. I just hope that same atmosphere that first drew me in returns soon..
I agree.

[yabatab]

The regulars are always going to hate the new comers
that act as if they have no manners "its a given." Im a
moderator on a chat site and i get these same complaints
that you are posting. The moderators on any site cannot
tell who are minors and who isn't if this is a rule on a site
that you have to be 18 the person is going to lie to gain
access so you cannot control that.
So just let the moderators do their jobs petty complaints
get annoying trust me. Hats off to the mods sure sucks
to be you......LOL

[1234abcd]

ban the kids..Im sick of all their immature shit. This site should be more along the lines of NORML, which says cannabis should be used for 18+..I didn't start smoking till I was 21, so Im not a hyprocrit.

ban me, I dont even care if you dont like my remark, but I have been waiting for somebody to say something.

[jakenthegentiles]

listen im a minor and i dont give a fuck what u say caus if i did i wouldnt be hear u and ur ignornt bullshit im only 17 and i bet u i know just as much about pot as you older guys do and in alot of cases i know more alrigtht iv been educatiting my self of drugs for 3 years on this site and NO ONE will take that away from me and when you say kids its nouldnt be all kids just the stupid flamers i realy enjoy getten baked and relaxing and reading so i can lern even more about growing caus its my hobbie all right im so sick of all u dumbasses generlizing us as kids i mean shure i cant spell and iv done my fair share of stupid shit but no one can take this sight from me and i mean NO ONE

[1234abcd]

listen im a minor and i dont give a fuck what u say caus if i did i wouldnt be hear u and ur ignornt bullshit im only 17 and i bet u i know just as much about pot as you older guys do and in alot of cases i know more alrigtht iv been educatiting my self of drugs for 3 years on this site and NO ONE will take that away from me and when you say kids its nouldnt be all kids just the stupid flamers i realy enjoy getten baked and relaxing and reading so i can lern even more about growing caus its my hobbie all right im so sick of all u dumbasses generlizing us as kids i mean shure i cant spell and iv done my fair share of stupid shit but no one can take this sight from me and i mean NO ONE

See you already got an attitude at 17...and you dont know more than me about pot. Im the weedmaster in my head and NO ONE will take that away from me. eheh :stoned:

[the image reaper]

listen im a minor and i dont give a fuck what u say caus if i did i wouldnt be hear u and ur ignornt bullshit im only 17 and i bet u i know just as much about pot as you older guys do and in alot of cases i know more alrigtht iv been educatiting my self of drugs for 3 years on this site and NO ONE will take that away from me and when you say kids its nouldnt be all kids just the stupid flamers i realy enjoy getten baked and relaxing and reading so i can lern even more about growing caus its my hobbie all right im so sick of all u dumbasses generlizing us as kids i mean shure i cant spell and iv done my fair share of stupid shit but no one can take this sight from me and i mean NO ONE

how's that for a perfect example ? ... by his own admission, a minor, ... and to top it off, he is PROUD of his vast drug knowledge, but evidently spent too much time in POT class, and not enough time in spelling and punctuation classes, not to mention his ignorance of common courtesy ... I especially admire his 'challenge' to the moderators, "no one can take this sight(sic) from me and i mean NO ONE" ... :D ... I have been irritated in here occasionally, , but you have never seen me resort to profanity, threats, or name-calling ... boy, I can just imagine the employers standing in line for this guy ... :D

[Psycho4Bud]

how's that for a perfect example ?

I agree!

Have a good one!:thumbsup:

[Divo]

How is banning minors solving the problem? There are some older than 18 and still act as a minor. If someone is troubleing you then PM a mod or admin and tell them what had happen

[Dutch Pimp]

how's that for a perfect example ? ... by his own admission, a minor, ... and to top it off, he is PROUD of his vast drug knowledge, but evidently spent too much time in POT class, and not enough time in spelling and punctuation classes, not to mention his ignorance of common courtesy ... I especially admire his 'challenge' to the moderators, "no one can take this sight(sic) from me and i mean NO ONE" ... :D ... I have been irritated in here occasionally, , but you have never seen me resort to profanity, threats, or name-calling ... boy, I can just imagine the employers standing in line for this guy ... :D
You have pretty well nailed it! If you leave; I leave.

[the image reaper]

I have decided to stay, until I'm either banned, or assassinated ... :D ... but, I am going to try 'lightening up' a bit ... not easy for an old cranky biker, but I'm not here to offend ... I will simply not respond to the morons, and hopefully, won't be helping a young person down the wrong road ... like I tell my son, when he gives me that "Dad!, you did it when you were my age !" ... I say "look at me, and what little I've amounted to ... don't you have more ambition than that ?" ... :D ... I may die broke and stupid, but I do hope to go out with a clean conscience ... :smokin:

[Psycho4Bud]

don't ban minors ban people that flame.

You are wise for your years!!!

Have a good one!:thumbsup:

[Psycho4Bud]

=the image reaper not easy for an old cranky biker

Well hello brother! Check out my profile and you'll find my baby.

Have a good one!:thumbsup:

[iamapatient]

The moderators on any site cannot
tell who are minors and who isn't if this is a rule on a site
that you have to be 18 the person is going to lie to gain
access so you cannot control that.
L
The moderators CAN tell how old they are when children "out themselves," and they do. Just grep the forums and you'll find thousands of kids here admitting their ages. It's not as hard to bust kids as kids think, they're not that smart. :D
Even NORML is against kids using mj, it's not rocket science,they hurt our cause of legalizaion for adults. It'll NEVER be legal for kids because they ARE kids, so they're not allowed to make such decsions for themselves. Thank God kids don't run the world like they think they do.

[Dutch Pimp]

Learning to grow, means being able to supply yourself with weed the rest of your life. Minors are not ready for that much power.

[Up In Smoke 420]

Very true. I guess I'm a fairly well-respected member of this community, despite my age limit. I have noticed that this place is beginning to lose its value from kids coming in here who think they're doing something special by making complete fools and asses of themselves. In the 6 months I've been here, I've seen this place go from a place with just a few assholes to being full of mostly underage assholes. On banning, however, it should be based on a person's attitude and posting. I strongly believe minors can also be intelligent like any adult, you shouldn't throw us all in a worthless pile of shit group and ban us.

:twocents:

Have a nice day.

I agree with Penguin. Plus Cannabis.com has had a no age limit it's whole life. I dont think it's going to happen now.

[yabatab]

The moderators CAN tell how old they are when children "out themselves," and they do. Just grep the forums and you'll find thousands of kids here admitting their ages. It's not as hard to bust kids as kids think, they're not that smart. :D
Even NORML is against kids using mj, it's not rocket science,they hurt our cause of legalizaion for adults. It'll NEVER be legal for kids because they ARE kids, so they're not allowed to make such decsions for themselves. Thank God kids don't run the world like they think they do.

I agree that marijuana should only be for adults don't
get me wrong. But if this 18+ rule would be made here
they would lie about their age. Yes kids that smoke pot
and some people that fit the stereo type of a person that
smokes pot does hinder the legalization. We need more
"norms" of society who smoke marijuana to represent
people that use marijuana. Im tired of this hippie stereo
type we get pigeon holed with. (I have nothing against
hippies) A lot of people see a person that uses marijuana
as a stupid brain dead hippie or some drug addict and kids
smoking pot does not help either.

[Its a Plant]

well, what if there was a "playground" section for the younger people not over 18, but not like 12. haha, I know I would find it funny to see people "playing" in the playground...

[iamapatient]

I agree that marijuana should only be for adults don't
get me wrong. But if this 18+ rule would be made here
they would lie about their age. Yes kids that smoke pot
and some people that fit the stereo type of a person that
smokes pot does hinder the legalization. We need more
"norms" of society who smoke marijuana to represent
people that use marijuana. Im tired of this hippie stereo
type we get pigeon holed with. (I have nothing against
hippies) A lot of people see a person that uses marijuana
as a stupid brain dead hippie or some drug addict and kids
smoking pot does not help either.
So, you admit it should be for adults only but because retarded kids are going to LIE they should be rewarded by being allowed to stay? C'mon?!? You make the rule, bust the ones you can and at least then you can say the site is acting responsibly. If anti-pot people want no votes for resheduling they only have to show them this website to prove what "pot does to kids" and how it's tolerated and encouraged by other, adult, drug users (which they'll call dealers) and turn a potential rescheduling yes vote into a permanent NO vote.

[yabatab]

So, you admit it should be for adults only but because retarded kids are going to LIE they should be rewarded by being allowed to stay? C'mon?!? You make the rule, bust the ones you can and at least then you can say the site is acting responsibly. If anti-pot people want no votes for resheduling they only have to show them this website to prove what "pot does to kids" and how it's tolerated and encouraged by other, adult, drug users (which they'll call dealers) and turn a potential rescheduling yes vote into a permanent NO vote.
Rewarded, no most certainly not. Im just stating that if
the 18+ rule was enforced here that they would lie about
their age to gain access to the site.

And yes some of these post could be used as evidence
against the legalization. A lot of the adults that make
post here could also. All these pro DXM and OTC drug
post that encourage using these, are ridiculous because
its mostly kids making these post asking for advice on
these dangerous substances. And that could be used
as evidence for this preposterous gate way drug theory.

[iamapatient]

Rewarded, no most certainly not. Im just stating that if
the 18+ rule was enforced here that they would lie about
their age to gain access to the site.

And yes some of these post could be used as evidence
against the legalization. A lot of the adults that make
post here could also. All these pro DXM and OTC drug
post that encourage using these, are ridiculous because
its mostly kids making these post asking for advice on
these dangerous substances. And that could be used
as evidence for this preposterous gate way drug theory.
Then why not make and enforce the 18+ rule as suggested? That just proves that they aren't responsible enough for drug use (or internet use for that matter) in the first place. It's exactly why NORML is against minors using mj, imo.

There's no doubt that some smokers (adults too) are our own worst enemy. They drive away potential supporters with their hate spews and idiocy. The "other drug" threads have problems (politics too) too, as you've mentioned but getting rid of as many kids as possible would help some of the negative perceptions.

[yabatab]

Then why not make and enforce the 18+ rule as suggested? That just proves that they aren't responsible enough for drug use (or internet use for that matter) in the first place. It's exactly why NORML is against minors using mj, imo.

There's no doubt that some smokers (adults too) are our own worst enemy. They drive away potential supporters with their hate spews and idiocy. The "other drug" threads have problems (politics too) too, as you've mentioned but getting rid of as many kids as possible would help some of the negative perceptions.

Yes it would make a point that the site does not promote
under age use. As a moderator on another site I ban people
and they just reregister with a different email account and new
nick name so you cannot keep them out. Even banning IP's
don't work all the time. I see your point though that if this
site made a point to state that its only an adult site it
would most definitely show some responsibility.

[iamapatient]

Yes it would make a point that the site does not promote
under age use. As a moderator on another site I ban people
and they just reregister with a different email account and new
nick name so you cannot keep them out. Even banning IP's
don't work all the time. I see your point though that if this
site made a point to state that its only an adult site it
would most definitely show some responsibility.
I still don't understand your defeatist attitude. I've been a forum mod on other sites too and yes, the unwanted will always try to evade the bans/rules, that's no reason not to make or enforce them. If you give up, they win. At the *very* least, with the 18+ rule, they can't admit it if they're under and that would help right there. Kids have to learn that just because they want something doesn't mean they should have it and they shouldn't be rewarded for acting like a spoiled brat. Make the rule, ban the ones we can verify now and deal with the brats after, IMHO.

[puffpuffand away]

how's that for a perfect example ? ... by his own admission, a minor, ... and to top it off, he is PROUD of his vast drug knowledge, but evidently spent too much time in POT class, and not enough time in spelling and punctuation classes, not to mention his ignorance of common courtesy ... I especially admire his 'challenge' to the moderators, "no one can take this sight(sic) from me and i mean NO ONE" ... :D ... I have been irritated in here occasionally, , but you have never seen me resort to profanity, threats, or name-calling ... boy, I can just imagine the employers standing in line for this guy ... :D

i agree with you also

[yabatab]

I still don't understand your defeatist attitude. I've been a forum mod on other sites too and yes, the unwanted will always try to evade the bans/rules, that's no reason not to make or enforce them. If you give up, they win. At the *very* least, with the 18+ rule, they can't admit it if they're under and that would help right there. Kids have to learn that just because they want something doesn't mean they should have it and they shouldn't be rewarded for acting like a spoiled brat. Make the rule, ban the ones we can verify now and deal with the brats after, IMHO.

Yes banning all the minors using the server now would make a point no
doubt about it. A lot of feelings would get hurt in the process too. I see
a lot of the long term members are underage. I understand your point that
we should not promote under age use and maybe a drastic measure such
as banning the minors is needed. Maybe some of the older members here
should set an example that its not ok to be using drugs in such a
developmental stage in their life's too.

[iamapatient]

Yes banning all the minors using the server now would make a point no
doubt about it. A lot of feelings would get hurt in the process too. I see
a lot of the long term members are underage. I understand your point that
we should not promote under age use and maybe a drastic measure such
as banning the minors is needed. Maybe some of the older members here
should set an example that its not ok to be using drugs in such a
developmental stage in their life's too.
Their feelings mean what? :rolleyes: BOO Fahkn HOO... They shouldn't be here. Period. Right is right and wrong is wrong. Other people's errors are not an excuse for children to repeat them.

[P.E.N.G.U.I.N.]

You bunch calling for the banning of minors are actually being more immature and closed-minded than us "okay" minors. If one group needs to be banned no matter their intelligence or contributions to the site, then this site should be shut down. Period.

Good day.

[1234abcd]

ban em all, eheh Im too baked to stay mad, yeah ur cool Penguin, you can stay.. u seem older, ban everyone else, eheh

[Psycho4Bud]

This thread has outlived its usefullness.

Lets just all show each other respect.......

Have a good one!:thumbsup: