another rat leaving the ship ...

[the image reaper]

well, as much enjoyment as I have had here in the past, I am also leaving cannabis.com ... I guess I'm just old and grouchy, but I can't stand the fucking kids in here ... these young losers have no ambition to READ the posts, just keep asking the same old questions, over and over again ... too lazy to do a 'search', too stupid to compose a thread with anything that resembles English ... I realize everyone may not be too intelligent, but I am thoroughly disgusted with the 'ghetto-street-thug" form of writing, that even some 'adults' think is 'cool' ... you dumbass kids better wise up, and get an education, get a job, and worry about getting high on payday ... friendly goodbyes to Zandor, del, Jdog, too many others to mention, ....but fuck the rest of you morons, you know who you are: the punks still living at home with Mommie, trying to do a stealth grow in the closet with a flashlight bulb .... and THAT is the future of America ?? ... scary ... :mad:

[JakeTheCorgi]

i think the root problem (no pun intended) is taking the internet too seriously

[Mnoutdoorz]

Well that's just shitty man it sucks because OG is gone and now it seems like people are leaving here too. It sucks when people with a wealth of knowledge leave but hey if you can't take it here anymore it's all good. Have a good one even though we never talked it sucks to see you leave cause maybe you coulda helped me out with my grows. In my opinion the mods need to go around and start droppin the ban-hammer on all these little fucks going around cocking off otherwise this site may lose more of it's great members.

[LIP]

Sorry to hear that man, but i feel the same man, too many kids asking the same Q and i cant ignore posts, so i just get myself all sressed out.

Im thinking of leaving too, well, i have been for 2 weeks, but never mind.

I'll be sorry to see you go.

[HapaPride]

i know exactly where you are coming from... its like the same questions over and over again... where you get burnt out by saying "go read the FAQ's"

then someone will get mad and say "100 views but no help" when the answer is actually right in front of their face if they looked. I view the boards more than i post due to the frustration of the laziness of other users, i did start my grow log that i am probably not going to finish here (the log that is not the grow) unless i get too excited and need to tell someone (since nobody knows about it except for c.com)

good luck to all the "real" growers out there and thanks for ALL the valuable info thats helping me get through my grow... esp that FAQ Thread, hehe

no saying i am leaving... but just stating my frustrations too

[del...]

well, you could always stop back in once in a while and help us lobby the owners for a more...umm, mellow and useful site (for lack of better vocabulary)? and we are doing just that...we need to show them by investing in those that have money and actually purchase items advertised here they will have a more financially viable product with canncom. keeping anyone who only uses/takes and doesn't add to a place many call 'home' is a waste, IF commercialism is a priority. i mean how many 15 years olds buy anything advertised here or anywhere? i don't mean to come off as an old fogie with no tolerence of our yute's but come on, what can they buy?

stick around and help us show the new owners where the financial future of this site lies...and click on the banners! here and every site you like and feel loyal to. it does help the site sponsoring the banners!

[Jdog7000]

I'm starting to feel the same way.
I feel like some people just don't appretiate the time we put in here.
When we get nothing out of it. But a thank you would be nice. And not a "geeez it's been five minutes. This place sucks" So I don't blame you.
Planet Ganja is nice.So is The ICMForum.Also Homegrown420 has a good more advanced older crowd. Noone stupid can go there. lol

[newone]

no matter where u go, no matter what forum i mean, ur gonna find these type of kids.

so i suggest u make the best out of what this forums got for you, and enjoy. :)

[Trivium]

no matter where u go, no matter what forum, ur gonna find these type of kids.

so i suggest u make the best out of what this forums got for you, and enjoy. :)

So true, Im taking this quote and putting it into my sig.

[latewood]

I'm starting to feel the same way.
I feel like some people just don't appretiate the time we put in here.
When we get nothing out of it. But a thank you would be nice. And not a "geeez it's been five minutes. This place sucks" So I don't blame you.
Planet Ganja is nice.So is The ICMForum.Also Homegrown420 has a good more advanced older crowd. Noone stupid can go there. lol
thank you J, lw:)

[graph]

Thank you.


I feel I haven't said that to the people who deserve it in a while.

[Jdog7000]

Thx Graph. I truely appretieate that!

And there are not as many kids at the other forims I listed. C.com is geting flooded with kids since the outdoor growing season started.
I don't mind helping youngsters. But only if they are respectful.

[the image reaper]

after scouting several other cannabis sites, I see they are all over-run by newbies that Won't Read ... Won't Search, Won't attempt the use of the English language ... it's like visiting huge online ghettos ... some have hundreds of threads to their credit, and couldn't grow a frigging dandelion, if their lives depended on it ... they simply repeat every post they ever read, whether it is correct, or not ... they won't take good advice ... tell these clowns they need a minimum of 20 watts per square foot, and you will get a reply such as: "will a 15-watt aquarium light work OK, and grow several ounces per plant ?". ...it's frustrating, I get disgusted ... :mad:
I have decided to keep visiting this website, as it USED to be entertaining, and educational ... I will NOT respond to frequent questions that have already appeared in the Forums, and will probably spend my time directing them to SEARCH ... if I become an asshole, it is because my patience is at an end, and I apologize to a FEW members ... please keep in mind, I respect, and enjoy conversation with SOME of the folks in here, primarily those who act as if the first couple years of grade-school weren't entirely wasted ...
I also request that the owner and moderators of this site automatically permanently BAN all minors, as they obviously have no business growing an illegal plant ... as witnessed by their apparent ignorance, they should be more concerned with an education, and a job, than their plants ... they will find out, TOO LATE, that the pot won't support them (without a jail term hanging over their heads), and they will grow up to join the ranks of jobless, poverty-stricken misfits I see everyday, begging for change ...
am I too harsh ? ... not nearly as harsh as LIFE can be ... my best wishes to those who struggle .... :smokin:

[Garden Knowm]

today I ate 16 hard boiled eggs minus the yokes...

now I am driving from texas to Nebraska.. dont you feel sorry for the other passengers in my car...

iloveyou
happiness is now.. we are all responsible for our own inner happiness.. once ONE begins to BLAME, the blame never ends... if you cant accept the outter accept the inner.. if you cant accept the outter or the inner.. accept, that "you" can not accept...

iloveyou

[the image reaper]

GK, I love you too, but you DO realize you make no sense, whatsoever, with that babbling ? .... have a nice day in your strange world ... lol ... just teasing ... :smokin:

[Shelbay]

Its good to see some coming back..didn't any of you think outside your own little group here in the grow section that even though SOME of us don't post here that we do read the tips and journals?? And before I get flamed for saying that and asked why we don't post..well..we don't want to contribute to the worthless posts..thats why we read..knowledge..imo you could step outside your box more and be a little more welcoming to newcomers but all in all..you guys had a good thing going and let people down.

[Garden Knowm]

hey image reaper....


I return to cali mid june...
I like the mountains... hint hint..

: )

shelbay... cheers... welcome..

I am very sorry that this grow section does not come across as "ALL welcoming"... I thought it was extremely welcoming and tolerant... no question should be labled as "stupid"...

that was my beef with OG... people would ridicule and be condescending to each other... and that was a crummy enviroment to call home...

I will do my best to welcome and accept all who come onto the boards...

thanks for the heads up..

cheers

[the image reaper]

GK, I don't like to put my e-mail addresses out there for the spammers to snag, but I would welcome you to come visit the Feather River Canyon area anytime you venture out ... if you have Private Message perks, send me an address to send mine to, we'll rendevous ... some gorgeous country up here an old cityboy like me craves ... :smokin:

[mscaboo]

it was the same way every year at og,as soon as school was let out for summer the kids invade these websights,just something you have to put up with i guess.if i feel that the poster is under 18 or states that he is still living at home then i will not offer advice to that person.got to have respect for the household you live in.

[Jdzzl03]

I also request that the owner and moderators of this site automatically permanently BAN all minors, as they obviously have no business growing an illegal plant ...



IF commercialism is a priority. i mean how many 15 years olds buy anything advertised here or anywhere? i don't mean to come off as an old fogie with no tolerence of our yute's but come on, what can they buy?

Couldnt have said it better. Get rid of the minors and the other issues people are having with cc will slowly fix themselves.

That being said a big Thank You!!! going out to all the experienced growers. Even if you have never talked to me personally I have read and followed many many of your grows and the information I learn is priceless, as I can vouch for with my current grow. Anyway everyone remember this is about having fun and learning not trying to figure out who has the bigger green dick. -Diz:rasta:

[Jdog7000]

ouldnt have said it better. Get rid of the minors and the other issues people are having with cc will slowly fix themselves.

That being said a big Thank You!!! going out to all the experienced growers. Even if you have never talked to me personally I have read and followed many many of your grows and the information I learn is priceless, as I can vouch for with my current grow. Anyway everyone remember this is about having fun and learning not trying to figure out who has the bigger green dick. -Diz
__________________

This is how I feel.Exactly.
And your welcome. hehehe

[Garden Knowm]

it was the same way every year at og,as soon as school was let out for summer the kids invade these websights,just something you have to put up with i guess.if i feel that the poster is under 18 or states that he is still living at home then i will not offer advice to that person.got to have respect for the household you live in.


nice insight... schools out..
thanks...


image reeper..
great, I will take you up on that offer for sure! : )

I will talk to you when I return from this project in tornado alley..

thanks
I love meeting fellow cc.com family! maybe I can grab jdog and we can come up together!

[the image reaper]

you're both welcome, definitely ... after tornado alley, it should really look good up here ... :smokin:

[Jdog7000]

That would be awsome.
I sure could use a vacation after all the crap I've been dealing with.
That would be really fun!

[Dutch Pimp]

I propose, that exprienced growers, ignore posts that seem like it might be coming from minors. The only fools that will be answering these posts, will be other minors. Fools teaching fools. The secrets of growing will remain with those seeking knowledge!

[Jdog7000]

I agree.^^^^

[Binzhoubum]

Wow! I didn't realize there were so many issues here. I just ignore all the idiots on the message boards just like I ignore them in "real" life. Either way, I would like to thank all the experienced people who know what they are talking about because it has helped me tremendously.

This is how it is. Where I am, there is only hashish (long story). And now, thanks to the help of this message board and it's experienced users, there may be a chance for something long needed 'round these parts.

[Garden Knowm]

there really aren't that many issues here... iloveyou

[Jdog7000]

I wish ppl would just let this shit go.

[Zandor]

I wish ppl would just let this shit go.

GO....where are we going??????

I thought we were going to take the special buss on a road trip this summer??????

Guess with the price of gas we should think again about that hu ;)

[Dutch Pimp]

Ignored posts by minors, would require cooperation amoung all growers and the "mods"....surely, they don't get paid by the hit.

[asintx]

Before all you "rats" leave the ship (and even those who aren't leaving), I want to say "Thank You" to y'all.

You have been very polite and helpful to this newbie. Although I've had a lot of problems getting going, I'm still trying, and your encouragement has meant a lot to me.

Thanks!

I don't want to see any of you go, but if you do go, I hope you'll put a posting in the grow lounge so that hopefully we can meet up again. You are so rich in knowledge and I learn a lot just reading your posts without even asking a lot of questions.

[asintx]

I do think this rash of kids is because school's out. This happens on a lot of boards and things get better once school starts. The thing is to ignore, or point to faqs and searches if you simply must reply. I do worry about the legitimate adult who needs some help though.

Another thing I do is to stay away from groups like the Cannabis lounge, psychotropics, etc., which seem to have a glut of kids.

[latewood]

the novelty will wear off, they will become bored, and find other interests...lw

[knna]

First of all, please excuse my poor english (second language). I think the main issue is the comunication capability over language limitations, but if its hard for you read bad english, ignore the post.

the image reaper, you must note that kids invasion is seasonal in all the cannabis forums in Internet. I basycally read the threads and post only a little because my language limitation, but because im tired of answer always the same to people who dont search and read before asking, too. But that isnt a reason to leave the forum, only to give up answering questions answered before many times.

I join this forum recently, due to im seeking for new questions about cannabis in the net, and the fact that each forum has its own cannabis growing paradigm make me read and participate in several forums. If you dont like always the same, think on doing the same as me. And take a little forums holidays, i believe you are a little stressed. But if this is your main forum, keep in it, the relationship with the habitual users is very valuable, and it will remain although you post only a little.

BTW, im going to leave this forum, but for different reasons. I think the way this forum works attract kids specially, and the average level is low compared with others. And i notice some commercial leaning and excess mods intervention, combined with a lacking of new ideas. There are valuable members here, as in any forum, but there isnt constructive debate about the differents ways to grow MJ.

[latewood]

I can tell you, there are more new ideas getting kicked around then you might think, but, everyone must choose their own path, have a good one.

and I don't really agree with you Knna...you do english well for a 2nd language, and there are alot of great info on the different methods of growing weed...I just don't think you looked hard enough...this is where I learned back in the day, and I learned it before I even started posting.

goodluck wherever you go peace. lw

[Jdog7000]

think the way this forum works attract kids specially, and the average level is low compared with others. And i notice some commercial leaning and excess mods intervention, combined with a lacking of new ideas. There are valuable members here, as in any forum, but there isnt constructive debate about the differents ways to grow MJ.

That was right on.
I've been going to a few different forums. And I've found that I've passed the level of this forum. So I only come here to help people.
But I won't be answering anyone who I think is a minor.
It's pretty easy to tell ussually.
I'll see ya around at the other forum's Knna.

[the image reaper]

KNNA ... you should not apologize for any of your English, etc ... you are obviously an intelligent, literate contributor ... I appreciate your opinions, and hope you stick around, we need thoughtful folks like yourself ... I get a bit frustrated with people sometimes, I admit ... my big character flaw is impatience, but I ain't so bad, really :D ...

[the image reaper]

Jdog, just curious, there is a Jdog6000 on cannabis420, is it you ?? ... I am in that one under the name "roadcam", in case you see me ... :smokin:

[knna]

I just don't think you looked hard enough

I thought about you said, latewood, and maybe you are right. And in any case, ill keep watching and posting if i see something interesting, and trying to help. Probably i only connect less to the forum, but why leave?

[latewood]

glad to have you knna, and if there is something you are looking for...there are a good many of us that no our forums here and can link you quickly...thanks for the reply. Look forward to seeing you around. peace. lw

[latewood]

glad to have you knna, and if there is something you are looking for...there are a good many of us that know our forums here...and can link you quickly...thanks for the reply. Look forward to seeing you around. peace. lw

p.s. you have arrived in the middle of a transition, that took a lot of people by surprise. with the closure of OG and other seedbank sites in canada the influx of new members here has basically, thrust the place into chaos.

the only thing that has proven itself; Is the fact that the core member base here, did the policing and cleaning up, largely on their own, with the help from the moderation team. We actually have gotten almost everyone to be civil, especially in the grow forums. I have gone to many, many sites, including marihemp. treatingyourself. klozitking. alien. ICB, cannabisworld, weedfarmer, baked...and oh yeah, OG.
...some sites are small, nice with knowledgable growers, but NO traffic!...Other sites have 'tons' of traffic and 'tons' of ASSholes...and 1/2 the replies are wrong. I always felt that this site had more to offer in the way of community.

Sorry about rambling on...I've got an Orange Skunk by the tail...pheeww.

peace.lw

Know what I mean?

[graph]

I, on the other hand, did none of the policing and attributed to half of the problems. Loveable little scamp, ain't I?

[Jdog7000]

I think thats me.
I havn't been there in a while. It's possible I was high when I registered. hahaha.
But I used to be 6000 here as well. Till I had to change computers and forgot my old password. lol

[hotchi]

well, i am a kid, but i have learned so much from this site, and the people of this site,


oh yea, i am not tryin to grow in my closet with a flash light,
i grow hydro, yea yea

[Jdog7000]

Not all young people are growing for the wrong reasons.
If your parents said it's cool. And there attitude is right.
Go ahead and grow.

[Garden Knowm]

zandor!...

yo bro... I am planning on making it out of tornado country alive... get the short bus ready!

iloveyou

[Sauce]

This is why i hate flaming and immature posts. Now a good member is leaving because of some kids. Im sorry to hear man you'll be missed

[Mr. Ganja]

Originally Posted by the image reaper

I also request that the owner and moderators of this site automatically permanently BAN all minors, as they obviously have no business growing an illegal plant ...

Um, no offense, but you should be a little more open minded. There will always be newbies asking questions that you think dumb, but they're not trying to hurt you or anything, they just want to learn. If you're gonna be such a snob, then why not just ignore the posts? Is that too difficult?
Another thing is that you're putting all the eggs in one basket. Not every new person here is a 15 year old idiot who types with a ebonic-slang. I'd like to point the fact that most of the forums have grammer problems, but am I going around whining about that?
You're a hypocrite and a big one at that. Supposedly growing Cannabis yourself, but you think these so called "experts" should be the only ones exclusively growing it. Sorry, but you aren't some god. With proper knowledge and experience I bet a lot people can be good growers.
You also make assumptions about people, don't be so shallow and grow up, son.

[LIP]

It's a shame the kids have to come on and break up our community, but i guess theres nothing we can do, apart from ignore and tell them to read the faqs...

The problem is that there is some very good posters here that are kids, and this is the problem. If we made it 18+ site then they would have to go, and we'd loose some good posters.

[keeko]

well image reaper, if you do leave, i just wanted to say ive enjoyed reading your posts and have learned a lot of your cfl grows. They have convinced me that i can get a great yeild without all the fancy lights.

[oldsanclem]

I love to enlighten the art of growing, but the kids/children , have dim bulbs to start with. :confused:
Its amazing nothing has changed over decades of growing, except for Al Gores internet. Automated growing is 10 years old or older.
Bulbs have changed the package, digital ballast , have not made it to industry, for watt savings. If cps, leds, worked industry would use them.
I wonder how may kids/ children have put there parents in jail, burned part of the house/home.:mad:

The best one a kid/child pee'd his pants,:thumbsup: one started a fire,:mad: BUT the funnest one was a co2 bottle went off in his car. :thumbsup:
A person with one seed knows it all, a person with a 100 plants wants to learn more.:dance:
Some of the kids need holes cut, in there pockets so they have someting to play with. :D
The scary part is someday they will drive a car, with a cell phone.
For the most part there family tree is a wreath.

[latewood]

oldsanclem, del told me about you...welcome here or back or whatever, but It's nice to see ya over here. peace lw

great post...love it

[oldsanclem]

Del has been around for a while. I must admit, I have parts of my system older than most kids parents.
I will admit that I'm teaching my grand kids to grow, herbs,,,, not pot.
Its amazing how much people pay for fresh herbs.
I think some kids will grow pussywillows , hoping to get some pussy.
Some/most are not brigest bulbs in the pack.
Stick around to help, and obtain a few laughs.
I do know that if you have pot , you do get some free pussy.
Ass for grass , peace for piece.
Be Happy, smile is a give away if you farted.

[Space Ghost]

I just wanted to thank all the experienced growers who have provided so much great advice on the forums. I'm sad to hear that so many of the experts I have depended on are so frustrated and considering leaving the forum.

I understand how frustrating it must be to see the same few questions posted over and over again. However, what you don't see are the users like me who realize the answer to almost every question is already there due to the hard work and time you all have put into the forum.

I have spent countless hours over the past month on this forum learning all I can about growing. I am in the middle of my first grow and I know its success is largely due to the information I have learned on this site.

[PaRaNoIa]

I might have posted some dumb Q's over the last year.. But now I consider my self as a guy who doesn't post stupid Q's..:p

And, Image Reaper, don't leave..

[Jdog7000]

I love to enlighten the art of growing, but the kids/children , have dim bulbs to start with. :confused:
Its amazing nothing has changed over decades of growing, except for Al Gores internet. Automated growing is 10 years old or older.
Bulbs have changed the package, digital ballast , have not made it to industry, for watt savings. If cps, leds, worked industry would use them.
I wonder how may kids/ children have put there parents in jail, burned part of the house/home.:mad:

The best one a kid/child pee'd his pants,:thumbsup: one started a fire,:mad: BUT the funnest one was a co2 bottle went off in his car. :thumbsup:
A person with one seed knows it all, a person with a 100 plants wants to learn more.:dance:
Some of the kids need holes cut, in there pockets so they have someting to play with. :D
The scary part is someday they will drive a car, with a cell phone.
For the most part there family tree is a wreath.


Nice...lol
Welcome.:thumbsup:

[catsenroute]

my humble opinion is "to ask the moderator to pass rules is like asking the government to help" "Government is best which governs least or not at all" H.D.T

[oldsanclem]

required reading , should be the only way to address the boards.
If that happened the board would only be 1/20 of its size.
1. making a seed grow
2 type of grows
3 how to harvest.
4 if something newer than 10 years , that has been proven.
All data to be backed up by real world data. No real world numbers, post is placed in Fairytail growing, NOT in the real growing section.
IE. Plan ahead for growing, have enough bail for your parents
With in 2 months was your last diaper change.
Do you still eat crayons, still.?
Do you still smoke corn silk, or bannana pulp.
All post must be in context , to the original post, in subject.
This will not work , that would lower the inputs to less than 5%.
Examples of Duh's
Use a 1000 watt bulb , you get more, Duh you need the space and venting to make it work.
Duh #2
Only my budy and girlfriend know I grow Duh the cops will know next
Duh # 3
I can get free power Duh its 2 felonys now
Duh # 4
I have a new way for stealth Duh,,, its like hidding a cow, it smells, makes noise, and you have a lot of shit to hide. Duh
Duh # 5
I know what I'm doing , reading about pot growing is a waste of time. Duh
Duh 6
My parents will never find out. Duh see Duh # 4
Duh #7
95 % of the bust are caused by loose lips. Duh do not put duck tape on mouth.
Duh 8
Look like a stoner act like a stoner and get busted like a stoner.
Duh #9
This product will increase you grow and weight , a blow you mind DUH
it may blow you mind when your short money Du$
Duh 10
Its time for a diaper change.

[The Grim Reefer]

I came here to learn what I needed to learn, and will still lurk the boards.
I didn't contribute much in the first place as I've had just a single grow.

Consider this my last post.

<3

[Jdog7000]

required reading , should be the only way to address the boards.
If that happened the board would only be 1/20 of its size.
1. making a seed grow
2 type of grows
3 how to harvest.
4 if something newer than 10 years , that has been proven.
All data to be backed up by real world data. No real world numbers, post is placed in Fairytail growing, NOT in the real growing section.
IE. Plan ahead for growing, have enough bail for your parents
With in 2 months was your last diaper change.
Do you still eat crayons, still.?
Do you still smoke corn silk, or bannana pulp.
All post must be in context , to the original post, in subject.
This will not work , that would lower the inputs to less than 5%.
Examples of Duh's
Use a 1000 watt bulb , you get more, Duh you need the space and venting to make it work.
Duh #2
Only my budy and girlfriend know I grow Duh the cops will know next
Duh # 3
I can get free power Duh its 2 felonys now
Duh # 4
I have a new way for stealth Duh,,, its like hidding a cow, it smells, makes noise, and you have a lot of shit to hide. Duh
Duh # 5
I know what I'm doing , reading about pot growing is a waste of time. Duh
Duh 6
My parents will never find out. Duh see Duh # 4
Duh #7
95 % of the bust are caused by loose lips. Duh do not put duck tape on mouth.
Duh 8
Look like a stoner act like a stoner and get busted like a stoner.
Duh #9
This product will increase you grow and weight , a blow you mind DUH
it may blow you mind when your short money Du$
Duh 10
Its time for a diaper change.



I LOVE THIS!:thumbsup:

[elcheapo]

Oldsanclem - Thanks for the laugh! :)

[GaGrown]

Lemme tell ya,I left the site some years ago! Around 2001.There were no Mods at all! Only Ron Bennett! There were several others at this site that had so much to offer!I'll name names in this case! Dreamer,mota20,which has gone to cannabis heaven,Tampiman that is still around somewhere.We did what we could to keep things at an even keel! Then! Mutiny on the bounty!We all went our seperate ways! At least from here anyway!I'll stick around for a bit longer.With the mods there is definately a difference! But,they are still here!Just gotta figure that when ya read a post,wheather or not the person is genuinely concerned about there grow!Then You help! Simple as that! It's just that the trolls and spammers and such as that swarmed the boards! Mostly cubscouts!Kids! I just recently came back to the site to share as much as I possibly can with whomever may be in need of it!I do however post in a manner that is not your regular thug talk,but, as we speak around here! With a drawl! You know! It's a southern thang!

Ga Grown

[latewood]

and, I didn't think there was any reason to read this thread anymore...lol Duh