Any Religious potheads out there?

[brave little toaster]

ive recently been confronted by a church friend/mentor about smoking the ganj. He was blasting (not in anger) me with reasons about how its addicting but I thwarted that attack. He then went off about it harming a relationship with god. I grew up in the church and dont go anymore but i still live a postitive lifetyle, besides weed because I dont think weed is bad. I just could use some advice if there are any christian potheads and if they exist.

If you are atheist or a non-beleiver, please dont post your bullshit. thanks.

[alpha kenny wun]

Im not a religious person, but from what Ive heard and read, Jesus used marijuana and hemp. I'd also think that if Jesus were around today, he'd encourage smoking. All the pot heads I know are caring people who actually care about relevant things and arent caught up with material things, greed, selfishness etc. Id smoke Jesus out!!

[LIP]

God put hemp and CANNABIS here on our earth, and he is the one that made the first person ever smoke it. So you can tell your friend that he has no fucking idea what hes on about. Everything in the world was put here by god, and its fairly obvious that it was put here to human consumption.

[growitandsmokeit]

I'd agree with the above poster. I'm not that religious and never go to church but sort of believe in a higher power. I went to religious schools and have a fairly high moral code. I think pot approached in the right way can be very beneficial to your spirituality. It can open you up to your thoughts and makes you examine your actions. It makes you appreciate nature and helps bond people together. Some of the nicest most caring people I have ever met have been what some people would call complete druggies.

[WeekenD TokeR]

For me, smokin' the herb is often an intensely spiritual experience. Now, I myself am not Christian but am what I consider to be a spiritual person, opting to follow a path similar to Wicca. I hardly think that marijuana distances you from God or the 'higher power', rather that it brings you closer. And if this guy starts Bible Bashing you or telling you that everything about cannabis is wrong, simply tell him that you find yourself closer to God and your soul whilst smoking marijuana. If he's still getting stuck into you, offer him a bowl and if he somehow accepts, get yourself in the most chilled settings possible and meditate or peace out. If he's still telling you that marijuana is devil's work, then he's fucking crazy.

Peace

[willystylle]

Dude I'm an atheist so this is sorta an objective opinion. I don't see how cannabis should affect someone religiously, its like LIP said; its God's holy herb and he put it here himself.

But I have never ever ever never ever met a ganja smoking church-goer that didn't try to scam me out of my money. Just saying thats all.

[daima]

ive recently been confronted by a church friend/mentor about smoking the ganj. He was blasting (not in anger) me with reasons about how its addicting but I thwarted that attack. He then went off about it harming a relationship with god. I grew up in the church and dont go anymore but i still live a postitive lifetyle, besides weed because I dont think weed is bad. I just could use some advice if there are any christian potheads and if they exist.

If you are atheist or a non-beleiver, please dont post your bullshit. thanks.

According to God cannabis is good.

"I made ALL the seed bearing herbs and saw that this was good"
-God

"NOTHING i made shall be neglected if it is to be recieved with thansgivings"
-God

"It isnt what a man puts in his mouth that makes him unclean, but that which comes out of his mouth makes him unclean"
-Jesus

"Use my seeded herbs to heal man and to help heal nations"

-God

A Christian belief is that God cant make a mistake, therefore those christians who call Gods plants a mistake cant be right.
As a matter of fact, the "prohibitionist" who use God to justify thier behavior, are addressed in Mathew....."In later times....some shall speak in hypocrisy...commanding that thou(you and me) should abstain(not use) from using that which i created". Key word? Hypocrisy.

Ahhhh i see........here's what must of happened...........On the eight day God was resting and looking down at all of his wonderful work when he had realised that he left all of that Cannabis down there, and he said, "Shit!!!! i left all of that Cannabis down there and now people are going to think i want them to use it. I better create republicans and democrats to correct my mistake"

dai*ma:stoned:
An Atheist prayer i would like to share...."Dear God...please protect me from your followers"

[growitandsmokeit]

hee hee another fan of Bill Hicks what a geezer that guy was. Interesting quotes from the bible too.

[willystylle]

God saw that the cannabis was dying. So he sent a great flood to ......

Moses spoke to the burning bush.....

[daima]

hee hee another fan of Bill Hicks what a geezer that guy was. Interesting quotes from the bible too.

I like what Bill says about education. Bill says..." What we should do is have congress pass a law that prohibits people from learning anything. If that works as well as the drugwar we should have the smartest people on earth in no time"

dai*ma:stoned:
I've been through seven managers five labels a thousand picks and patched cables three vans a band a buncha guitar stands and cans and can and can of beer and bottles of booze and bags of pot and a thousand other things i forgot i thought that i'd be dead by now...........but i'm not.:thumbsup:

[Delta9]

Whenever I think of Jesus I think of good old "Christian Brothers"

You need to start reaching toward the bottle rather than the pipe.

[beachguy in thongs]

ive recently been confronted by a church friend/mentor about smoking the ganj. He was blasting (not in anger) me with reasons about how its addicting but I thwarted that attack. He then went off about it harming a relationship with god. I grew up in the church and dont go anymore but i still live a postitive lifetyle, besides weed because I dont think weed is bad. I just could use some advice if there are any christian potheads and if they exist.

If you are atheist or a non-beleiver, please dont post your bullshit. thanks.

I'm a confirmed Catholic, and I know that there are others here, also, and when I was still living in Amsterdam, NY, I often had a Jehovah's Witness over and we'd sit on my front porch. I'd smoke pot in front of him, preached the effects it had on me, and we'd talk about God and Life after Death.

I'm sorry to hear that your intervention with a devout Christian was with one who is not open to the ideas that God has put in ALL of his children's heads.

[Delta9]

Have another drink.
smoke another smoke.
Remeber the Mighty Chieftains
of the Cherokee and Sioux.
the eminent with a sacred pipe.

The stynx and the satyrs
of the Dryad moon lit night.
Tobacco from the earth
And wiskey from the still
The Pans voice an omen
Silenu has had his fill.

[beachguy in thongs]

Have another drink.
smoke another smoke.
Remeber the Mighty Chieftains
of the Cherokee and Sioux.
the eminent with a sacred pipe.

The stynx and the satyrs
of the Dryad moon lit night.
Tobacco from the earth
And wiskey from the still
The Pans voice an omen
Silenu has had his fill.

I remember those Cherokees being excellent lovers.

[Delta9]

From Babylon to Chaldea
Hecate has crossed the sea
Gilgamesh has waken Hermes sent to plea.
Wall Street's mingled nations
Ishtars flood set free

[poorprincess]

It's completely a matter of point of view. I have a gay friend who thinks smoking pot is going against God. Even if it was bad, nobodies perfect, God knows that. And there are far worse sins.

[beachguy in thongs]

It's completely a matter of point of view. I have a gay friend who thinks smoking pot is going against God. Even if it was bad, nobodies perfect, God knows that. And there are far worse sins.

Like, condemning a princess to poverty?

[Delta9]

See thats why you should never vote catholic.
Christians are the ones who zelously support anti-drug crusades. Not to say I support drug addiction, but I also believe in freedom.

[Sir Les]

Marijuana is the future renewable resource humans are looking for, that will help solve global warming!
God made all the plants Good or very good!
He already judged them and gave them to humankind!
We are to make good use of these plants given for meat!
Marijuana seed is good food for the whole creation!
We should study and educate our children into using this wonderious plant in a good light!
It filters the waters, cleans and produces the oxygen, consumes c02, cleans and adds a special mycellium to soils...thus enriching them to give more abundantly!
It is a self contained industry on its own!
And now we know how to make fuel that burns clean from it!
Ethanol!
And the drug for spiritual enlightenment!

I believe God made all things for a reason!
Everything is linked together in some fasion, that takes from something else!
And this reality relies on many things working together!

Marijuana is a specail plant!

[beachguy in thongs]

See thats why you should never vote catholic.
Christians are the ones who zelously support anti-drug crusades. Not to say I support drug addiction, but I also believe in freedom.

Well, I know who won't support me if I run for president! ;)

[beachguy in thongs]

See thats why you should never vote catholic.
Christians are the ones who zelously support anti-drug crusades. Not to say I support drug addiction, but I also believe in freedom.

Well, I know who won't support me if I run for president! ;)

[pastor420]

ive recently been confronted by a church friend/mentor about smoking the ganj. He was blasting (not in anger) me with reasons about how its addicting but I thwarted that attack. He then went off about it harming a relationship with god. I grew up in the church and dont go anymore but i still live a postitive lifetyle, besides weed because I dont think weed is bad. I just could use some advice if there are any christian potheads and if they exist.


Take heart Brave Little Toaster, you aren't alone out here. :thumbsup:

There are other Christians out here and most likely the ones you'll talk to here won't be as afflicted with plank-eye (See Luke 6:37-49) as your friend.

My personal relationship with the Lord is doing fine and I smoke (except at the moment being as I'm out). In Genesis 1:29, it is very clear that God gave us ALL seed bearing plants. It wasn't until the 30's that man decided it was bad. But God hasn't changed His mind.

[beachguy in thongs]

Take heart Brave Little Toaster, you aren't alone out here. :thumbsup:

There are other Christians out here and most likely the ones you'll talk to here won't be as afflicted with plank-eye (See Luke 6:37-49) as your friend.

My personal relationship with the Lord is doing fine and I smoke (except at the moment being as I'm out). In Genesis 1:29, it is very clear that God gave us ALL seed bearing plants. It wasn't until the 30's that man decided it was bad. But God hasn't changed His mind.

I've never read a reply so slow in my life. Damn, Simpsons!

[Shelbay]

I have been told its becuase when we take drugs or drink it allows evil spirits to manipulate and control us..also that we contribute to the deaths of people that die because of our wants and needs..ie..their blood is on our hands. I used to tell my pastor I didn't buy and I rebuked the evil when I did enjoy...he still told me I was sinning..but after I "helped" his wife..hypocrisy again about the plant.

[beachguy in thongs]

I have been told its becuase when we take drugs or drink it allows evil spirits to manipulate and control us..also that we contribute to the deaths of people that die because of our wants and needs..ie..their blood is on our hands.

As with any drug, if nothing is wrong with you, then it can only harm. That's what drugs do. Drugs are meant to correct a problem, but, if there's no problem, why fix it?


Evil spirits have been shown, and it's long been known, that they kill brain-cells.

Hell may very well be on Earth.

[braddog10]

I have been told its becuase when we take drugs or drink it allows evil spirits to manipulate and control us..also that we contribute to the deaths of people that die because of our wants and needs..ie..their blood is on our hands. I used to tell my pastor I didn't buy and I rebuked the evil when I did enjoy...he still told me I was sinning..but after I "helped" his wife..hypocrisy again about the plant.


Shelbay, What a thoughtful reply, I didn't understand exactly what you ment toward the end, something about helping his wife.

Guys, its' easy to put our views on someone else, just as this preacher has.
The bulk offered here is the same flavor.

We think strongly about something and in our narcesism, hay, one size fits all.
Toaster, is making an honest spiritual inquirely, about something that I delt with for years.

I wouldn't say that I know exactly where he is, with this concern, but I now what street hes' on.

I'm tired It's late.

I'd like to come back here tomarrow

[ukmonkey]

Gods a wanker fuck him! I had an argument with him the other day when I was stoned...

[Peach.Optimo.Bluntz]

According to God cannabis is good.

"I made ALL the seed bearing herbs and saw that this was good"
-God

"NOTHING i made shall be neglected if it is to be recieved with thansgivings"
-God

"It isnt what a man puts in his mouth that makes him unclean, but that which comes out of his mouth makes him unclean"
-Jesus

"Use my seeded herbs to heal man and to help heal nations"

-God

A Christian belief is that God cant make a mistake, therefore those christians who call Gods plants a mistake cant be right.
As a matter of fact, the "prohibitionist" who use God to justify thier behavior, are addressed in Mathew....."In later times....some shall speak in hypocrisy...commanding that thou(you and me) should abstain(not use) from using that which i created". Key word? Hypocrisy.

Ahhhh i see........here's what must of happened...........On the eight day God was resting and looking down at all of his wonderful work when he had realised that he left all of that Cannabis down there, and he said, "Shit!!!! i left all of that Cannabis down there and now people are going to think i want them to use it. I better create republicans and democrats to correct my mistake"

dai*ma:stoned:
An Atheist prayer i would like to share...."Dear God...please protect me from your followers"


wow. Im literally dumb founded right now. :thumbsup:

[Stoner Shadow Wolf]

wow me too man that's why i love daima! :D

[SomeGuy]

Sin can be defined as something that seperates us from God. Smoking Marijuana can only be considered a sin if it somehow does this which it dosnt. God made it...why not show your love for God and toke on.

[Ganjasaurusrex]

I only believe in spirituality and not organized religion.

I changed my thinking many years ago after becoming fed up with the fear, guilt, money, politics, fighting/killing, dominance and scandals that drive organized religion.

I am my own man and follow no one.

[curious101]

Jesus says, I am the Way, the Truth and the Life. No one gets to the Father accept through me. Personally i believe spiriituality to be a very interesting tool of the flesh. The bible teaching that from the beginning of creation the whole earth has cried out to testify the glory of the Lord. Look at this world, with such great order of laws and nature. The possibility of this universe merely happening by chance is in the billions. A higher power had to create this great earth we live in for everything fits perfect for our exist. My friends i come not to insult but to testify of what i believe. Every person can admit that they fall short in their day to day life. Sin, mistakes or bad decisions cannot be denied and for this reason Jesus died on the Cross for our sins. With His perfect sacrifice we can enjoy a direct fellowship with God. Conversing with him, praising him, and enjoying his beautiful creation. Christian denominations have done a very poor job and i will not deny the money, killings, ect. that have happened in the past. Christ did not die for men to do the various things some organized denominations have done. This speaks even further to the fact of the need for Christ's blood to forgive our sins. Friends, Jesus lived and died for the Salvation of this entire earth. His desire is that every human being and earthly creation can live in love and harmony with one another. I pray any who have spent the time to read this post would honestly look into their lives and decide if they truly need a friend, a Father and a Savior. All can be found in Jesus Christ.

[Ganjasaurusrex]

Jesus says, I am the Way, the Truth and the Life. No one gets to the Father accept through me. Personally i believe spiriituality to be a very interesting tool of the flesh. The bible teaching that from the beginning of creation the whole earth has cried out to testify the glory of the Lord. Look at this world, with such great order of laws and nature. The possibility of this universe merely happening by chance is in the billions. A higher power had to create this great earth we live in for everything fits perfect for our exist. My friends i come not to insult but to testify of what i believe. Every person can admit that they fall short in their day to day life. Sin, mistakes or bad decisions cannot be denied and for this reason Jesus died on the Cross for our sins. With His perfect sacrifice we can enjoy a direct fellowship with God. Conversing with him, praising him, and enjoying his beautiful creation. Christian denominations have done a very poor job and i will not deny the money, killings, ect. that have happened in the past. Christ did not die for men to do the various things some organized denominations have done. This speaks even further to the fact of the need for Christ's blood to forgive our sins. Friends, Jesus lived and died for the Salvation of this entire earth. His desire is that every human being and earthly creation can live in love and harmony with one another. I pray any who have spent the time to read this post would honestly look into their lives and decide if they truly need a friend, a Father and a Savior. All can be found in Jesus Christ.



Who said anything about denouncing God or Christ, Budda, Ghandi, Mother Theresa or any other wise soul?


There is no one way to God. To say so excludes all other religions in this world.

Spirituality is all encompassing and inclusive not exclusive to itself.

Spirutuality is not a tool of the flesh.

[huh]

i've thought of this alot and the conclusion i have come to is that if God didnt want us to smoke weed he wouldnt have put it here. weed has been around for a very long time and even monks used to smoke it.

[sanguinekane]

I personally believe in Hellenistic and Kemetic Reconstructionism, of a personal variety, and I use pot as a way of attaining a sort of communion with the gods (or at least as close as a human can get to being in contact with the gods).

Of course there are times when I just smoke to get blazed, but I do believe that marijuana was given to humanity as a gift, not a curse.

[braddog10]

Gods a wanker fuck him! I had an argument with him the other day when I was stoned...

Ukmonkey, Your post is almost a month old. I don't know if this was a temporary hassle or a long term general beef. One of my favorite mentors of all time, Wayne Monbleau. mentioned back in "79", that some years prior on LSD he found himself, on a beach ~ looking upward with w/ his arm stretched out and his middle finger in the air. Your closer than you realize. When communication starts, It usually isn't smooth. I'm sure the interest and heart that i feel is just a token compared to his. He's happy to see you as I am also.

Wayne, was on a beach. Where were you? There is significance to this...... Just wondering.

My available time here is very limited this week, I my be late in my response, Thanks.

[james2theson]

Im a christian and i do smoke bud..to be completely honest with u no matter how muhc i try to convince myself that smoking bud is a positive thing, and does not affect ur relationship with God, it does..lately ive had to rexamine my life and draw out my faults...Bud is fun and all and i belive its ok once ina while, but it truly can take ahold of you, esspecailly if your a christian. when ur walking with jesus your satans main target. marijuana can be a gate way for sin to discourage you and unmotivate you..i stumbled upon this quote the ohter day about how Satan not wanting you to fulfill God plan for your life because we are part of his ultimate defeat and by unmotivating us to thinking we cant do the things that God has in front of us hes minipulating us to turing away form God.

[braddog10]

Im a christian and i do smoke bud..to be completely honest with u no matter how muhc i try to convince myself that smoking bud is a positive thing, and does not affect ur relationship with God, it does..lately ive had to reexamine my life and draw out my faults...Bud is fun and all and i believe its ok once ina while, but it truly can take hold of you, esspecailly if your a christian. when ur walking with Jesus your Satan's main target. marijuana can be a gate way for sin to discourage you and unmotivate you..i stumbled upon this quote the other day about how Satan not wanting you to fulfill God plan for your life because we are part of his ultimate defeat and by unmotivating us to thinking we cant do the things that God has in front of us hes manipulating us to turing away form God.

I admire your honesty. Some friends that are sensitive mature Christians have either quit or expressed notes of caution. I too have quit at different times for various reasons. I am not right now. I am on my own search. You must hear God for yourself, "my sheep hear my voice", You will just know what to do, or not do.

What is the fruit of MJ in your life? Good or Bad?
You must also answer that question ~ yourself.
Thanks James2theson

[Shelbay]

As with any drug, if nothing is wrong with you, then it can only harm. That's what drugs do. Drugs are meant to correct a problem, but, if there's no problem, why fix it?


Evil spirits have been shown, and it's long been known, that they kill brain-cells.

Hell may very well be on Earth.
I just read this..you are so right on this one! When I am not sick I don't enjoy it like I do when I am sick & it gives me relief. I don't really know what it has been lately but every time I try to enjoy mj it does nothing for me..actually agitates me..maybe I will stay healthy this time because I haven't felt this good physically in a long time & I am feeling this way without any "help"..not going to complain about that.

[antikoala]

Im a christian and i do smoke bud..to be completely honest with u no matter how muhc i try to convince myself that smoking bud is a positive thing, and does not affect ur relationship with God, it does..lately ive had to rexamine my life and draw out my faults...Bud is fun and all and i belive its ok once ina while, but it truly can take ahold of you, esspecailly if your a christian. when ur walking with jesus your satans main target. marijuana can be a gate way for sin to discourage you and unmotivate you..i stumbled upon this quote the ohter day about how Satan not wanting you to fulfill God plan for your life because we are part of his ultimate defeat and by unmotivating us to thinking we cant do the things that God has in front of us hes minipulating us to turing away form God.

I'm not sure I see your point clearly here, perhaps you can make it more specific?How exacly do you think satan's targetting you through MJ?The reasons I'm puzzled are a)because smoking has been considered as the most typical ritualistic practice in most religions (christianity included) due to the upgoing fumes symbolizing the connection between heaven and earth and b) smoking weed especially is an essential part of the rastafarian worshipping of Jesus -they call MJ "Jah gift" and "holy weed" if I'm not mistaken (rastafarians being Orthodox Coptic christians)

[Captain Hanks]

Im a christian and i do smoke bud..to be completely honest with u no matter how muhc i try to convince myself that smoking bud is a positive thing, and does not affect ur relationship with God, it does..lately ive had to rexamine my life and draw out my faults...Bud is fun and all and i belive its ok once ina while, but it truly can take ahold of you, esspecailly if your a christian. when ur walking with jesus your satans main target. marijuana can be a gate way for sin to discourage you and unmotivate you..i stumbled upon this quote the ohter day about how Satan not wanting you to fulfill God plan for your life because we are part of his ultimate defeat and by unmotivating us to thinking we cant do the things that God has in front of us hes minipulating us to turing away form God.

your smoking it with the wrong intentions and being disrespectful with god's holy herb, i believe it helps you see right from wrong and it encourages me to be a stronger christian...:rasta:

[braddog10]

I'm not sure I see your point clearly here, perhaps you can make it more specific?How exacly do you think satan's targetting you through MJ?The reasons I'm puzzled are a)because smoking has been considered as the most typical ritualistic practice in most religions (christianity included) due to the upgoing fumes symbolizing the connection between heaven and earth and b) smoking weed especially is an essential part of the rastafarian worshipping of Jesus -they call MJ "Jah gift" and "holy weed" if I'm not mistaken (rastafarians being Orthodox Coptic christians)

James2theson is expressing very well what most any believer has to deal with. It is not at all an intellectual matter. It has everything to do with the life and walk of the spirit. The spirit leads to all truth also defined as the Spirit of Truth and the Spirit of Christ. If James2theson is lacking peace to continue then ~ that alone will cause him to cease. Arguments don't work here. The lack of peace explains all, and supercedes all. "He leads forth in peace". Peace can't be bought, so to speak. It's never worth it.

[Binzhoubum]

I have been told its becuase when we take drugs or drink it allows evil spirits to manipulate and control us..also that we contribute to the deaths of people that die because of our wants and needs..ie..their blood is on our hands. I used to tell my pastor I didn't buy and I rebuked the evil when I did enjoy...he still told me I was sinning..but after I "helped" his wife..hypocrisy again about the plant.

This thread is exactly the reason why I don't buy into religion...yet listen with an open, unbias ear.

:smokin:

Either way...Krishnamurti, I think you all should read it. :stoned:

[mseerob]

According to God cannabis is good.

"I made ALL the seed bearing herbs and saw that this was good"
-God

"NOTHING i made shall be neglected if it is to be recieved with thansgivings"
-God

"It isnt what a man puts in his mouth that makes him unclean, but that which comes out of his mouth makes him unclean"
-Jesus

"Use my seeded herbs to heal man and to help heal nations"

-God

A Christian belief is that God cant make a mistake, therefore those christians who call Gods plants a mistake cant be right.
As a matter of fact, the "prohibitionist" who use God to justify thier behavior, are addressed in Mathew....."In later times....some shall speak in hypocrisy...commanding that thou(you and me) should abstain(not use) from using that which i created". Key word? Hypocrisy.

Ahhhh i see........here's what must of happened...........On the eight day God was resting and looking down at all of his wonderful work when he had realised that he left all of that Cannabis down there, and he said, "Shit!!!! i left all of that Cannabis down there and now people are going to think i want them to use it. I better create republicans and democrats to correct my mistake"

dai*ma:stoned:
An Atheist prayer i would like to share...."Dear God...please protect me from your followers"

Hey whats up, where does it state that in the bible?

[beachguy in thongs]

This thread is exactly the reason why I don't buy into religion...yet listen with an open, unbias ear.

:smokin:

Either way...Krishnamurti, I think you all should read it. :stoned:

This post is exactly the reason why I don't buy hardbacks or read my paper.

[JMRinFLA]

Not religous but very spiritual. If I had a religion

[burnable]

Religion is and will always be subjective, varying in tenets from person to person, even in the same school of religious thought or congregation. The problem with most church-goers is that instead of saying how they personally feel about a religious topic, they say what they assume they're supposed to say, to align themselves with the dogma and to not appear like a dissenter or something. That sucks, though, because religion shouldn't be comfortable. It should be something to encourage you to evolve to an etheral state of sublimity. We don't get there by drifting.

Pot can be looked at in 2 ways with that said. It can make you feel carnal, confined into a sensual and self-serving shell that some ppl refer to as well-being while others call it oblivion. this effect makes one hungry, horny, childish, and other attributes considered pleasing to the carnal mind.
The positive effect of pot on the religious mind is that it dramatically alters your perspective of yourself and the world. Looking at yourself from this detached perspective allows you to see yourself as you really are. It's like you're not looking at the world through your eyes anymore; you're looking at yourself and the world through impartial and uninfluenced eyes, from which one can extract prescriptions to accelerate one's spiritual and earthly life.

So my point is , these two types of stoners that we all know are not that way because of pot, they are that way because they are that respective kind of person, whom pot influences respectively. To give a general promulgation of the effects of pot on the religious person is futile, since pot does not effect two given people in the exact same way. I personally feel I have a better grasp on the universe whilst high, even more so than serving a two-year religious mission, but this is me.

[JMRinFLA]

Not religous but very spiritual. If I had a religion
Didn't finish my post before I hit the "Submit Reply" button before! Here's what I meant to say:

Not religious but very spiritual. If I had a religion I guess it would be Wicca. I think the Earth has its own life force and that any Gods that do exist are found in nature. Screwy stuff, I know. Wiccans are typically avid tokers too so I'd definitely fit in!

[Hamlet]

"If you are atheist or a non-beleiver, please dont post your bullshit. thanks."

If you only want Christians to reply why don't you try asking the question on some religious website? Unfortunately I have a feeling they won't tell you what you want to hear either.

Nope, if you're going to be a part of that faction you can't have it both ways--not unless you start your own denomination anyway. Of course you could always start your own "bong hits for Jesus".

Your problem is you're letting your particular sect tell you what God does and doesn't like, does and doesn't think. Well, the fact of the matter is they don't know what's on the mind of God any more than anyone else does, (even though they claim they do...every religion thinks they have an exclusive on God)

So you'll have to decide if you're going to hang out with these guys--you'll just have to come to grips with God being a Republican and behave accordingly.

[Mr.N]

I think I am going to quit smoking.. "As with any drug, if nothing is wrong with you, then it can only harm. That's what drugs do. Drugs are meant to correct a problem, but, if there's no problem, why fix it?"~Beach guy in thongs This quote fits me dead on dude.Good quote beachguy! Theres nothing wrong with me, so why smoke? I will stick to drinking (which I do moderately). Also I kinda believe if God really put weed on this planet, then it was meant for the people which really need it. The people which have back pains or qualify for having it. WE are all abusing it and its not really meant for us. My 2 cents anyways, thanks for hearing me out guys and girls appriciate it like always.

Mr.N out

[beachguy in thongs]

I think I am going to quit smoking.. "As with any drug, if nothing is wrong with you, then it can only harm. That's what drugs do. Drugs are meant to correct a problem, but, if there's no problem, why fix it?"~Beach guy in thongs This quote fits me dead on dude.Good quote beachguy! Theres nothing wrong with me, so why smoke? I will stick to drinking (which I do moderately). Also I kinda believe if God really put weed on this planet, then it was meant for the people which really need it. The people which have back pains or qualify for having it. WE are all abusing it and its not really meant for us. My 2 cents anyways, thanks for hearing me out guys and girls appriciate it like always.

Mr.N out

That's the wonderful thing with cannabis. Mostly, all of it's effects contradict other natural and synthetic chemicals.

If you're depressed, you'll be prescribed something for it, but, if you're not depressed, then taking a drug, like Xanax, will make you happy and relaxed. The next time, and every subsequent time, that you take it, you'll become dependent on it and experience withdrawal symptoms. http://www.mysearch.com/jsp/AJmain.jsp?st=&ptnrS=&t=&searchfor=xanax_dependence&searchBtn=Search

Cannabis, being the wonderful thing that has evolved it's way into Our natural selves, is more like steroids without the side-effects. Pubescant teens should smoke, occassionally, either, during the dawn hours or shortly after sunset, if they are gonna smoke at all. Activating your cannabinoid receptors is, only, proving to be a positive action. I don't see any harm, presently, in melatonin overload, but, in the eyes, cannabinoid receptor dependence has been shown, but that may be a positive thing.

[burnable]

I think I am going to quit smoking.. "As with any drug, if nothing is wrong with you, then it can only harm. That's what drugs do. Drugs are meant to correct a problem, but, if there's no problem, why fix it?"~Beach guy in thongs This quote fits me dead on dude.Good quote beachguy! Theres nothing wrong with me, so why smoke? I will stick to drinking (which I do moderately). Also I kinda believe if God really put weed on this planet, then it was meant for the people which really need it. The people which have back pains or qualify for having it. WE are all abusing it and its not really meant for us. My 2 cents anyways, thanks for hearing me out guys and girls appriciate it like always.

Mr.N out

I'm sure there's been times when you've said to yourself "what is wrong with the world" or "why is everyone such a fuckin idiot?" Things appear to be wrong with them, and often it's true. Maybe it's not diagnosed in the medical sense, but how many mental and other diseases does science not yet know about? wellness is relative. someone could think they're totally without need of "repair" when a doctor will say there's a host of things gone wrong, and another doctor will disagree. If you're saying physical pain is a necessary condition for pot to be justifyably used, you're negating the ability that it has
to regulate mental or emotional distress, for which habit-forming pills are often prescribed. And when a person has a bottle of pills with a doctor's name on it to regulate a mental issue, they feel totally validated in using that drug, but many of that same type wouldn't smoke herb to help it simply because it wasn't prescribed. How do you know humankind isn't just inherently sick and is waiting for a cure that they don't know will help? Granted this is an extreme view, but if you want to quit herb due to your cited philosophy, I'd recommend you reassess it. If you were just waiting for a reason to quit, that's different.

[Mr.N]

hmmm, good point... Very tricky situation huh, lol...

[FreedomMan]

check out this link

http://www.equalrights4all.org/religious/bible.htm

[cnorris14]

I am a christian, and I love Jesus with all my heart. I smoke the herb also.

The guy that posted those bible quotes, thanks. Those were really enlightening.

My view on it is this. The bible says follow the laws of your land. Although I think smoking green isnt against god at all, it's still a US law. This is the only thing that makes me feel guilty. Marijuana doesnt harm people it makes them more peacefull. This forum is a "pothead" forum and I havent seen anybody here say one mean thing to anybody. Only kindness.

So I think smoking with friends and close family members is spiritually helpful. Indians used it to get intact with there gods, and I use it to have fun and feel closer to God.

WERE GOIN TO AMSTERDAM!

[braddog10]

Religion is and will always be subjective, varying in tenets from person to person, even in the same school of religious thought or congregation. The problem with most church-goers is that instead of saying how they personally feel about a religious topic, they say what they assume they're supposed to say, to align themselves with the dogma and to not appear like a dissenter or something. That sucks, though, because religion shouldn't be comfortable. It should be something to encourage you to evolve to an etheral state of sublimity. We don't get there by drifting.

I can agree with you partially, burnable. It is true than many, church goers swallow or parrot much of what they have grown up with. I did the same thing. God showed up very quickly, when I started to question things.......I don't know if He responded so fast to my inquiry, or if He actually put the question in my mind or heart because he knew what he was going to reveal.

This isn't to you buddy, I'm just using this as a sping board...ok?

There are so many, wonderful quotes by men making statements about questioning faith or God as if it's a bad thing. It's a good thing. We must do it. Faith........is something that is tested. We've tried it. We've driven it like a rental and it's still running and drives straight. Question everything. I didn't say doubt everything or just avoid the question..........well,

It is then known. In fact God says "Lets reason together". He is not impressed with ......Chapter titles, and no text on the pages. Real questions, getting real answer quoting party lines have no edge to it, no bite.
of coarse as it relates to any field.

It's life really, that's so uncomfortable, Jesus came that we would have quality of life, and that......more abundantly. It's my own hardheadedness, that blocks or diminishes my quality of life. Some things have to be burned into me, some things have to be burned out. I personally would enjoy a more peaceable content life if I wasn't chasing the BIG buck, and all that goes with it, and just simply living, spending time with my loved ones.

One of my biggest problems,..... spending so much time on things for enjoyment, specifically my house, my car,.....whatever, and not having time left to enjoy them......It's crazy. I have to obviously deal with the fact that I must back off on perfectionism and start enjoying my wife, friends, the house (as It Is), Car.......it is bitch'n though. I'm modifying an LS1 late model corvette motor to go into an old '67' Firebird conv........fuel injected, computer upgrades, dyno tuned, close to 400 horses. on pump gas and 20 mpg.......incredible.

Some of these things are just bowls of soup though. Selling our birthright, for something that is a Meir token. I already have enough regrets. Many fortunately caught in time.......Am I On Topic? . . .Probably not. Good to see everyone, Hope all are well..........Braddog10

[braddog10]

[I]

Nope, if you're going to be a part of that faction you can't have it both ways--not unless you start your own denomination anyway. Of course you could always start your own "bong hits for Jesus".

Your problem is you're letting your particular sect tell you what God does and doesn't like, does and doesn't think. Well, the fact of the matter is they don't know what's on the mind of God any more than anyone else does, (even though they claim they do...every religion thinks they have an exclusive on God)

So you'll have to decide if you're going to hang out with these guys--you'll just have to come to grips with God being a Republican and behave accordingly.


Hey,Hamlet, This is what He saw in the very beginning. The carved Images of God ...idolatry. Carving Him out into what ever any faction would want........so much of the earliest written text, are types and shadows ~ primitive forms of what would become major issues later. But, the simplicity ~ The Graven image ~ . So descriptive.

Shaping his political views, social, whatever...... really to our image.........hum sounds familiar. Satan tried the same thing. He didn't fly. None of us can be trusted with God hood either. Maybe "PE" can just chill and deal with it.

[Matches]

yeah i'm not religous at all, but hey, next time you talk to him just be like 'god created everything on earth right? THAT MEANS HE CREATED WEED DUMBASS!'

[MastaChronic]

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[zero2104]

i have a freind who goes to like a cultish like church which think they r like super christians and r perfect and shit and he smokes weed,

i dont even know if wat i just said makes said or should even b in this thread :confused:

[funkysole808]

I think I have just found my religion. Thousands of people smoke cannabis religiously, including myself. We are protected by the 1st Amendment, and have not lost a court case yet. I'm not kidding, check it out for yourselves at: www.thc-ministry.org

Peace from the aloha state:rasta:

[evoldeewecaep]

I am christian man, and God is most important to me in my life.

there idn't a thing wrong with tokin it up man, as long as you de herb don't become your idol. When you start thinkin bout de herb more than de Lord, you know you be strayin too far man.

God don't be carin whether ya be smokin man, he cares that he be da main of your life man, you understand?


:rastasmoke::rasta:

[ziggyb]

I agree with 'EVOLDEEWEDAEP', with a few personal exceptions. I've been a Christian for 6 years and a pot smoker for more than half of my 35 years. A couple years into my walk with The Lord, I have been convicted about my personal pot use. It is clearly deterring and stunting me from doing all the things in my life that I want to do. This was true before I was a Christian, too.

The long and short of it is, one's relationship with God is a very personal thing, as is their 'relationship' and motivations for smoking.

Another couple of comments: According to the Bible, we are to be sober minded and admonished against being drunk. Yes, God put all the herbs on the planet, as well as poisonous, deadly ones. He gave us knowledge and the ability to learn. He gave us our natural state of consciousness (our soul, which is eternal). Being high IS an altered state of consciousness, no matter how pleasant it seems.

But, most definitely, God being first in our lives is, by far, the most important thing to focus on, if we want to be close to Him and blessed as well. I am still working on all of this, and I know, for me, He doesn't want me smoking. And each time I disobey, well, it's clear I'm not putting Him first.:(

[chris62008]

I am christian man, and God is most important to me in my life.

there idn't a thing wrong with tokin it up man, as long as you de herb don't become your idol. When you start thinkin bout de herb more than de Lord, you know you be strayin too far man.

God don't be carin whether ya be smokin man, he cares that he be da main of your life man, you understand?


:rastasmoke::rasta:

well stated. I have to agree. I believe smoking weed is a sin if you are abusing it. Smoking a joint once or twice a day is ok. But once it starts controlling your life and taking away the things that are most important, THAN it's a problem or SIN.

[PureEvil760]

I find it good, when I find myself in a mental cage weed sometimes shatters it.. or at least makes it seem more roomy.

[chris62008]

I find it good, when I find myself in a mental cage weed sometimes shatters it.. or at least makes it seem more roomy.

agreed! marijuana is usually the only thing that can calm me down after stress. I cannot control my stress real well and it's bad sometimes. Marijuana is very effective in calming me down and helping me relax.

[nonymoose]

Take heart Brave Little Toaster, you aren't alone out here. :thumbsup:

There are other Christians out here and most likely the ones you'll talk to here won't be as afflicted with plank-eye (See Luke 6:37-49) as your friend.

My personal relationship with the Lord is doing fine and I smoke (except at the moment being as I'm out). In Genesis 1:29, it is very clear that God gave us ALL seed bearing plants. It wasn't until the 30's that man decided it was bad. But God hasn't changed His mind.

"Thou shalt bear no false witness". Has anyone stopped to think of all the lies it took to convince Congress they should make marijuana illegal? All the movies made depicting marijuana smokers as lunatics out to cause murder and mayhem; absolutely ludicrous! And there are lots more than just "Reefer Madness".

I, too, am a pot smoking Christian; I base my pot smoking on several things: 1. I like it. 2. Jesus said, "It's not what goes into man that defiles him, but what comes out." So, watch what you say, and do. 3. I have had many great bible studies while enjoying one of God's greatest plant creations.

I find that it soothes me and slows me down enough for God to get my attention the way He would like to, while I'm reading His Word. It puts me in a state of wanting to listen rather than talk. In this manner, the Holy Spirit is able to share with me things I would not have understood otherwise, and I've been a Christian since 1983.

Since then I have never experienced condemnation by the Holy Spirit for smoking cannabis. I just read that it was used in the Holy anointing oil and as incense for the Temple worship in Israel back in the days of Moses and Aaron.

It can put you in that child like state of mind that Jesus says is essential for entering into the Kingdom of Heaven. It can help you focus and get the feeling of what it actually means to "repent of this life" and "abandon all for the sake of the kingdom"; something we don't see at all in the church body of this country.

My prayer for pot smokers is that they would begin to allow God and His Christ to minister to them in the way He wants to, and begin to show them just exactly how much He loves them, and that He does not condemn them for partaking of His creation.

Realize that Satan is the ruler of the world governments, and he obviously has good reasons for wanting to keep marijuana illegal. If you want to call marijuana a gateway drug, then so be it, but understand that it can be a gateway to understanding the Word of God. So, grab your bong and your Bible!

[420IAMthatIAM]

Im a christian and i do smoke bud..to be completely honest with u no matter how muhc i try to convince myself that smoking bud is a positive thing, and does not affect ur relationship with God, it does..lately ive had to rexamine my life and draw out my faults...Bud is fun and all and i belive its ok once ina while, but it truly can take ahold of you, esspecailly if your a christian. when ur walking with jesus your satans main target. marijuana can be a gate way for sin to discourage you and unmotivate you..i stumbled upon this quote the ohter day about how Satan not wanting you to fulfill God plan for your life because we are part of his ultimate defeat and by unmotivating us to thinking we cant do the things that God has in front of us hes minipulating us to turing away form God.....peace..friend!every thing i say here is only for getting your soul into the peace zoneit's not the cannabis thats the bad guy here...
the cannabis is only magnifying your true self;the culprit here is not the cannabis.the first step in being one with GOD is to be honest with ones self...GOD is the one who is going to fulfill HIS plan for all our lives.remember it's his plan!!

[420IAMthatIAM]

Who said anything about denouncing God or Christ, Budda, Ghandi, Mother Theresa or any other wise soul?


There is no one way to God. To say so excludes all other religions in this world.

Spirituality is all encompassing and inclusive not exclusive to itself.

Spirutuality is not a tool of the flesh.Isa 7:14 Therefore the Lord himself shall give you a sign; Behold, a virgin shall conceive, and bear a son, and shall call his name Immanuel. first lie... the son of virgin spoken of here is'nt jesus it's Immanuel Gen 11:1 And the whole earth was of one language, and of one speech.
Gen 11:2 And it came to pass, as they journeyed from the east, that they found a plain in the land of Shinar; and they dwelt there.
Gen 11:3 And they said one to another, Go to, let us make brick, and burn them throughly. And they had brick for stone, and slime had they for morter.
Gen 11:4 And they said, Go to, let us build us a city and a tower, whose top may reach unto heaven; and let us make us a name, lest we be scattered abroad upon the face of the whole earth.
Gen 11:5 And the LORD came down to see the city and the tower, which the children of men builded.
Gen 11:6 And the LORD said, Behold, the people is one, and they have all one language; and this they begin to do: and now nothing will be restrained from them, which they have imagined to do.
Gen 11:7 Go to, let us go down, and there confound their language, that they may not understand one another's speech.
Gen 11:8 So the LORD scattered them abroad from thence upon the face of all the earth: and they left off to build the city.
from this story we can understand a couple of things; one the people were in harmony with one and other,each man had bits of truth, went his way became a country, became a religion. so all religions have bits of truth, no religion knows what that bit of truth is .they just think they are the truth...its up to us to gather those bits of truth and enjoy!:postreadfaq::detective1::abduct:

[christian4cannabis]

Cannabis has been given to us by God for sure! To be enjoyed, and to be utilized to open your mind up to God, and also medicinally. They used to use cannabis in the old testament to make incense that was burned on the altar in the tabernacle before you entered into the holy of holies, and as anointing oil for it's medicinal qualities.

[silent leprechaun]

ive recently been confronted by a church friend/mentor about smoking the ganj. He was blasting (not in anger) me with reasons about how its addicting but I thwarted that attack. He then went off about it harming a relationship with god. I grew up in the church and dont go anymore but i still live a postitive lifetyle, besides weed because I dont think weed is bad. I just could use some advice if there are any christian potheads and if they exist.

If you are atheist or a non-beleiver, please dont post your bullshit. thanks.

I'm a non-believer but an over-achiever ! :)

Just kidding :)

[silent leprechaun]

Why do religious people use such large font sizes ? Are they shouting ?

[dzydeb]

I agree, silent leprechaun. I think they are shouting. I'm so glad I left "Religion" behind and started acting like a child of Yah. Religion is arrogance. Accepting that I am just a child, brings me into the correct perspective of who I really am, and my true relationship with the Creator.

Smoking Cannabis is not a sin, unless you make it so.

[christian4cannabis]

Completely agree dzydeb a personal relationship is the only way to go! I don't understand why people want to use bigger and bigger fonts, it just make me want to skip past and not even read what they type.

[angel119]

I am a spiritual person. I do regularly attend a Christian church. What does Jesus think of me smoking? I don't know but I think He's cool with it. I believe it's made me a better person, for one thing. Certainly i am more patient, joyful, loving, and peaceful, for example. How can that be so bad? I'm not hurting anyone so I don't think it's a sin. But like with anything, you have to have your boundries. I consider myself to be a very responsible user, and I try to live by a certain code of ethics I have for myself. There's a time and a place for it. If something bothers your conscience, avoid it, but I have no remorse or regrets about starting because I really don't believe it's wrong.

[Shovelhandle]

I go to church regularly and I always go stoned. It assists with my reasoning, I believe.

[nascarmike]

What's is your heart is what counts. As far as I can tell it comes down to this the bible say ALL the law and the prophets comes down to loving God and loving your fellow man. It don't seem all that complicated.

[32yrslater]

ive recently been confronted by a church friend/mentor about smoking the ganj. He was blasting (not in anger) me with reasons about how its addicting but I thwarted that attack. He then went off about it harming a relationship with god. I grew up in the church and dont go anymore but i still live a postitive lifetyle, besides weed because I dont think weed is bad. I just could use some advice if there are any christian potheads and if they exist.

If you are atheist or a non-beleiver, please dont post your bullshit. thanks.

You want religious advice? Well here's mine...I was was born and raised Catholic. Any Church's Christian related are break away's (Protestant) because they didn't believe everything as the Catholics did/do. Do I believe all the Church BS? NO!! I'm a "free thinker". Folks that aren't have a tendency to follow just about anything...and we know there's some weird stuff out there...like the Korishtians for example (spelled wrong?) David Koresh..he told people he was God and they believed him...and subsequently burnt to death via ATF.

I'm not going to tell you what to think but what do YOU think? What would Jesus say?...send you to hell?

[low_rdr]

Just like 32yrslater:

Born and raised catholic, but I'll just quote the bible:

Genesis 1:12 - And the earth brought forth grass, [and] herb yielding seed after his kind, and the tree yielding fruit, whose seed [was] in itself, after his kind: and God saw that [it was] good.

God thinks its good. I tend to agree :thumbsup:

[Cinnamon]

Pantheist, though I was raised Lutheran. I agree with 32yrslater as well, you need to be a free thinker. You can't follow what normal humans tell you.
Besides, weed is a plant, a natural thing and, if you believe in a god that created the world, then that means he created this plant as well. And if you don't feel like it's affecting your life negatively, then don't worry about it.

[Maranathameds]

To me, it is a very small thing that I may be examined by you or any human court; in fact, I do not even examine myself, yet I am not by this acquitted: the one who examines me is the Lord. Therefore brethren, do not go on passing judgment before the time of Christ, but wait until the Lord comes who will both bring to light the things hidden in darkness and disclose the hidden motives of men's hearts: then each man's praise or discipline will come to him from the Lord. For who regards you as superior? What do you have that you did not receive? You received and yet you boast as if you didn't receive. All things are lawful for me, but not all things are profitable. All things are lawful for me but I will not be mastered by any thing. Through your knowledge he who is weak in spirit is ruined, the brother for whose sake Christ died. And so, by sinning against the brethren and wounding their conscience when it is weak, you sin against Christ. The apostle Paul, formerly Saul of Tarsus, the persecutor. Circa A.D. 51

[GrassIzGreenah]

@ BravelittleToaster You are already made righteous according to The Father! Your sins are already paid for with his blood. In bible study we talk about if smoking is sinful nature..The Word (bible) does make reference to putting toxins and poisons in your Temple (intaking Carbon Monoxide)(the place where the Holy Spirit resides) as sinful...However Speaking with a pastor She informed me that ganja itself is not sinful. Infact its medicinal (obviously) and nothing more or less than corn, potatoes, and anything else we grow from this earth. So if ur consuming ganja via Vapor or edible then ur not harming ur body...But Blunts...and even papers...cud have a toxic effect..thus ur harming ur temple..But vapors are best for us anyways... And do not Idol green. Dont put it before Him and other impt aspects (work, school, family )BUT IF U FEEL CONDEMED BY SMOKING...THEN THAT IS UR SPIRIT TELLING U TO STOP OR PULL BACK A LIL BIT...LISTEN TO THE SPIRIT FOLLOW IT...BUT ABOVE ALL JUST PRAY AND ASK THE MOST HIGH FOR ANSWERS!! PEACE LOVE AND BLESSINGS!!

[Schrodingers Cat]

I am what I am and do believe, but the final call is up to God.

Marijuana and the Bible (http://www.equalrights4all.org/religious/bible.htm)

What Does the Bible Say About Herbs? (http://www.openbible.info/topics/herbs)

If your friend is making you feel bad, tell him, and ask that he stop. WWJD

[Shelbyweedjesus]

Did you know that the first bibles were made from hemp? My adoptive parents are pastors and they despised the fact that I smoked weed. but recently i have been exposing them to the truth and they seem A LOT more chilled out now :) My biological mother on the other hand is also heavy christian and she smokes much more than me and even grows. She believes it brings her closer to God. I myself am not christian per say buy I am a spiritualist and incorporate everything into my life and I just think weed heightens that feeling of oneness :)