A BIT P****D OFF

[mand]

As the title says I am not a happy bunny. Why?, because of a very personal insult made by Philly Kid on this thread ............ http://boards.cannabis.com/showthread.php?t=66877.

I come on to these boards to chat about growing cannabis, to keep a grow journal and if at all possible to help others learn about growing.
I do not come on here to have insults thrown at me.

Philly Kid .............. I have looked at you're previous posts, I have seen that you have only been a member here for few days. I have to say you come across to me as a very imature and ill mannered little boy.

I have two pieces of advice for you ................ "GROW UP AND LEARN SOME MANNERS", AS YOU HAVE NEITHER OF THESE QUALITIES.



As for my future on these boards, at the moment I doubt very much I will be able to post again, I am not willing to leave myself open to such insulting beahviour.


I appologise to all the decent members of these boards for the content of this thread, I am just very upset at Philly Kid and his insulting remark to me.



mand

[Trivium]

Hey Mand. On that thread a comment was made that wasnt needed. Sure we get assholes like that on these boards but its something we have to deal with or it gets to the point they get banned. Phillykid made 1 post about you and you make a whole thread about him? Not right, some people on here have trashed me and I didnt make a thread. Im sorry maybe theres something else thats pissing you off.

Give the kid a break, you label someone an asshole they're labeled one for good. I read your thread before your link, I thought he might have been an asshole flamer, but only 1 post, come on girl thats nothing.

[the image reaper]

I probably will regret posting this response ... I know it will sound insulting, but I really don't want it to ... to be honest, I was thinking exactly the same thing when he posted the "dude looks like a lady" comment .. again, no offense intended, but that particular photo you had in your avatar was a bit 'androgynous', you could have 'passed' for a male in drag in that pic ... not to be defending the guy, he didnt need to bring attention to it, but you should know, and maybe be less thin-skinned ... hell, just be happy you don't look like me ... :D

[krustythfreakinclown]

I don't get the comment.

Is he implying that you don't look feminine?

I thought his comment was not in context and didn't relate to anything whatsoever in the thread.

Then again, I'm not that bright. :error:

[bob bobbinson]

Mand. Im deeply sry for u being insulted. These things happen. But also I have seen some posts commenting on ur other personal pics looking good. So u gotta expect some people to feel the opposite. And in a free society we have to accept and understand that. or were no better than some.

But honestly, forums contain flamers. I have never seen a forum without them.

Plz dont let this detract u from posting/contributing. Hate to see a good person go.

[9ski9]

Mand:

You are a sweetheart and a gentle soul. I would personally kick his weenie ass if he were within 100 miles of me. Just because some kids normally act like Beavis and/or Butthead, doesn't mean you can't slap them down with a thread...or a baseball bat.

You are beautiful. But who am I---or anyone---else to judge?

I'd hate to think that your beautiful, soft, China-doll complected skin isn't thick enough to stay with us...

Please don't leave.

~ski~

[The Grim Reefer]

I'm going to agree with the image reaper, but not to offend.

I kind of chuckled at his comment, only because I laugh at myself all the time.
I believe to honestly change ourselves and get what we want from life, we need to look at ourselves from every perspective imagineable.

Even the ones from people not like ourselves.

Don't let it get to you, gorgeous.

[latewood]

mand, we're friends...take a day or 2 and come back and see us. the post in question doesn't even make sense. Perhaps he assumed all people here on the forums are dudes...peace.love lw

[Shallow Hal]

jesus , i don't see much wrong with what the kid said . Mand i don't want to sound rude but i think u need to chill alittle. why didn't u answer him in the thread he posted on. i think u might be trying to get sumone banned from the boards and if that is the case that isn't very cool at all. All the reaction to a few words on a forum thread. i'll be sorry not to see any more pics from ur grow , it looks great ,but if u choose to huff just cuz of a few words then sry to see u go .

[Tom Swierzbinski]

Mand, please put ya pic back - as Ive said in my WR diary, I miss seeing your pretty face on your posts :(

Plus, you cant look as bad as me. I wasnt even stoned then... lol.

[Buffalo Soldier]

Well fellas........mand is gone, whoever is to blame is not important. Whether her flamer is punished or not she has every right to leave, why should she deal with people who aren't concerned with the primary focus of this board............passing on the knowledge. I will miss mand and if she ever gets to read this....thank you for the time you shared with us, you have passed on more than you will ever know.......



Peace........love

[turtle420]

Hey Mand,

:(

Darn it... I hope you read this.

I saw the link you posted...

PhillyKid is an asshole. He's a kid, from Philly... what can we expect?

:( Don't go Mand...
I just placed PhillyKid on my ignore list.


<><><>

I think this has a lot to do with this "community" we've got here.

I'm impressed other members hadn't posted "bitch-slappings" to PhillyKid for his remarks.

CLEAR::: I will pick to have Mand here on this boards, over PhillyKid ANY DAY.

C'mon guys! I'm talking to the old members... the ones that have been here quite a while...

Mand is always here... Mand is always posting with her sweet "xxx love" signatures... her grows are amazing... and her words of encouragement are ALWAYS a blessing to ANY thread.

Mand, please post again.

Do not go. I ask you to place the kid on your ignore list (click his name---> public profile---> on the right, Add abcxyz to your Ignore List). Screw him Mand. Screw him.

Peace and love to you Mand, I'm on your side :),

-turtle420 :cool:
.

[the image reaper]

yup, Mand was always a welcome sight here ... she had great grows, and good advice for others, besides being cordial ... ya gotta toughen up, and come back home to the Forums, Mand ... you ARE missed ... :smokin:

[florida boy 3]

hi mand, don't let one comment chase you away. you are a very important part of this forum. everyone of us oldtimers love your input. kids will be kids they have a lot of growing up to do. i would like you to put your picture back, you are a very beautiful person, and i'm sure everyone would agree with me. please don't go, hugs and kisses.

[mand]

Guys I'm not after the symapthy vote here, in all honesty I'm more than old enough to look after myself.

Some might say oh mands going off on a mardy, overeacting ............... well let me just explain something. If someone came on to these boards and for reasons in their own tiny little brains said "mand you are the uglist bitch I have ever seen, you're grows are crap and you talk nothing but a load of bullshit", I wouldn't give a monkeys ............... it would go in one ear and out the other.
I've had crap slung at me plenty of times and to be honest I just laughed at it.

Now if I was to tell the story of my married life and all the crap I had to endure throughout that farce, then you might understand a little of how my friend "Philly" hit the right button to cause great emotional upset to me.

Plus I also find just to post on a thread a deeply personal insult to someone you don't even know ........................ very very rude and ill mannered to the extreme.






Anyway Philly this part is just for you ................... ;)
You did something for me without my asking, so I have done something for you to return the favour :)
It's nothing much, I read the cards for you, by proxy if you like ......... it can be done like that.
Earlier I read through everything you have written whilst shuffiling the cards, when I finished I did a reading just for you.

I've added a picture of you're reading so that you can print it off and find someone who knows what it says ................. I'm not going to tell you, I'm going to let it be a supprise.
I will give you a little clue though ;) .................... I most certainly would not like to be in you're shoes.

It's ok Philly love, you don't have to believe it, because that makes no difference at all :D


A little more advice for you dear, stay safe and KEEP THE FUCK OUT OF MY FACE :D



love mand xxx :)

[The Grim Reefer]

Mand - it's great to see you back. I understand he may have hit a soft spot from something that happened in the past, but just think of it as a reminder of how much you've been through.

If he said "mand you are the uglist bitch I have ever seen, you're grows are crap and you talk nothing but a load of bullshit" I would be more offended obviously since I'm not in your shoes, but THEN I would definitely get on his case since it appears much more demeaning.

Your card reading skills look pro, can you read mine?! :D

Again, I'm really glad you stayed - I think you should put up another glam shot and say "Fuck you" to little punks who try to get a rise/laugh out of people.

Sincere Love

[del...]

mand, i don't see it either. it looks to me like he was only commenting on your avatar as i see nothing else that relates anywhere close to what was said. and if that IS the case, i suggest thickening up that skin a bit. i also checked into all of pk's previous posts and he has no history of trolling anyone. no troll posts there...check for yourself!
http://boards.cannabis.com/search.php?searchid=549882

[The Grim Reefer]

I love Mand, I'd definitely stand up for her no questions asked if anyone was going off on her or flaming her. She doesn't deserve it.

BUT, phillykid doesn't have any previous trolling record (check out his other posts) and not only that, the comment he made may have been a little rude but it wasn't even his! He got his insult from a song that's been dead long since "Ms. Doubtfire".

Not only that, but he's obviously not defending his posts at the moment so he probably brushed it off just as soon as it was sent and posted to the thread.

This is the breakdown as I see it in my head:

*Before this mess took place:
Philly - Emotional Status: Calm
Mand - Emotional Status: Calm/Happy

*Philly reads the thread and sees Mand's avatar for the first time:
Philly - Emotional Status: Controlling/Giddy
Mand - Emotional Status: Calm/Happy

*Philly makes his post and logs:
Philly - Emotional Status: Accomplished
Mand - Emotional Status: Calm/Happy

*Mand goes to read replies as Philly is watching a hilarious movie:
Philly - Emotional Status: Happy (Long forgotten is his post in his mind)
Mand - Emotional Status: Pissed/Upset

*Mand makes a new thread to inform C.com of what has taken place:
Philly - Physical/Emotional Status: Sleeping/Getting high/School/With a friend - Happy
Mand - Emotional Status: Pissed/Upset

Chances of any of this effecting PhillyKid in any way if he's the kind of person I think he is: 0-5%

Endless amounts of energy being wasted on someone who doesn't even have the slightest clue of what's going on: Priceless.

But I mean, for all we really know - this kid is friends with a bunch of girls and they all make fun of eachother on a daily basis. I know this girl I talk to all the time and I make fun of her in every way possible as she does me, you have to look past the hurt and look at the funny reality that is life.

If you have issues or problems with how you look or feel, you have two options.

#1 is change.
#2 is be comfortable with who you are.

It's one of the harshest lessons out there, take this from someone who's gone from 190 pounds to 303 pounds and then back down to 240 then to 280 and now back to 230.

[mand]

The kid has no manners, but that is the least of his problems that I know for a fact.

I was hurt beyond anyone on these boards can ever understand .... Why ?............... because they weren't left on their own with three small children to bring up, pennieless, living in absolute saqulor whilst their husband went of to live with another guy and play fucking dressing up, that's why.

The little fucking arsewipe hit a fucking raw nerve, so no one lecture me on trolls, rights, wrongs ........................ manners cost nothing.
As for thick skin, what the fuck do you think as got me through life, I'm no shrinking violet and if need be I be the toughest bastard you could ever wish to meet ................ I've had to be to surrvive.


mand

[The Grim Reefer]

How can you honestly sit there and say your pain is greater than everyone else's?

You have no idea what I've gone through. No idea what my mother has gone through.

Don't lecture me about understanding YOUR pain when you refuse to understand mine or anyone else's by completely shutting them out.

That's being a little hypocritical.

[mand]

Grim am I talking about you ..................... NO.

I never ever shut anyone elses feeling out, I am one of the best listeners around because I've been in lifes little sick joke before so I understand, try me.


mand

[Dutch Pimp]

Foregive the sinners amoung us. I enjoyed your posts, during my first grow.

[The Grim Reefer]

Mand - I'd prefer not to go into detail since it's an old part of my life, and though I can't relate to your exact situation, the pain was more than real and everlasting.

I admire you.

<3

PS - Your avy grosses me out. LOL
You really should throw another picture of you up there. :thumbsup:

[mand]

I understand Grim, a cannabis growing site really isn't the place to discuss life's inermost thought's and feelings.

However it's life's problems and trials that make us stronger, they make us who we are.



By the way, what's wrong with the avatar ................. it's my new look ;)



mand ;)

[cactusman23]

hey purdy ladie, owwwwww, have mercy

[The Grim Reefer]

LOL, besides the fact she looks like a glob of melted cheese?

Seriously, it makes me sad yours isn't up there anymore. Please put one of yours up? For me?

[Tom Swierzbinski]

I understand Grim, a cannabis growing site really isn't the place to discuss life's inermost thought's and feelings.

However it's life's problems and trials that make us stronger, they make us who we are.



By the way, what's wrong with the avatar ................. it's my new look ;)



mand ;)

I think that this website can be a place to vent feelings and anger (as long as its not directed towards other members). After all, this is a community - and as with all communites theres always some prick that spoils it for one of us at some point or other.

Oh and Mand... the new look is... er... interesting. I still offer to be your toyboy (well, when Im single :p ) whether you look like a 'glob of melted cheese', a 'woman in drag' or your usual look - sexy and sleek ;)
Lol if my girlfriend reads that Im in the doghouse. Oh well lol. Im surprised that you didnt put a pic up of yourself for the Cannabis Chicks Calendar. Anyway Im glad your back Mand, and I didnt mean to offend by saying anything above. I just talk a lot of shite, stoned or sober. Actually, I talk less crap and make more sense when Im stoned. Im babbling.

[mand]

An avatar, to be honest I have been stung, I wish I could explain just how much a very short and juvenile comment hurt, but I'm affaid I am too inadequate at expressing myself in the written word.
Also I have had the thought in the back of my mind to have the internet connection removed after completing the present grow thread, you see it's not my computer, it's one of my lads and he has always paid for the broadband thingy, well he never touches the thing and he said he doesn't want to pay for the connection anymore.
I don't know, I'll just have to see what happens ?????



By the way Grim, the cards .............. yes I can read them for anyone. It really requires a physical contact with the inqurier to get a true reading ............ that is they shuffle them whilst conentrating on the question. However in Phillys case there seemed to be enough emotion in the present to give a reading.
To be honest they can be interpreted in different ways and at the time of reading them they never seem to make sense. However I've done so many readings now for so many people I can't help discount them. Time after time people have told me how so very true they have been.
I have to always warn people that I have to read them on what they say, I can't/daren't manipulate a reading, because in truth they actually scare me................. I would never ever do a reading for myself.



mand :)

[Trivium]

Lifes full of assholes, he made 1 uncalled stab on you and you freak out. Deal with it , as del said he has no posts trashing anyone else.

[mand]

Ah Trivium, firstly love, stop telling me to "deal with it", I'm more than capable of dealing with things in my own way ;) .

Secondly you wanted to abandon a grow thread because there weren't enough replies, a piece of advice love, don't do one for others do one for yourself.
Shall I tell you what you need to do ...................... you have 600 watts of light, you have all you need there to grow cannabis and yet you seem to be struggling. I'm an middle aged grandma and yet I am out growing you as easy as anything ................... stop giving out the advice and lets see you grow something decent ............... if you need help ask.


mand ;)

[Trivium]

Ah Trivium, firstly love, stop telling me to "deal with it", I'm more than capable of dealing with things in my own way ;) .

Secondly you wanted to abandon a grow thread because there weren't enough replies, a piece of advice love, don't do one for others do one for yourself.
Shall I tell you what you need to do ...................... you have 600 watts of light, you have all you need there to grow cannabis and yet you seem to be struggling. I'm an middle aged grandma and yet I am out growing you as easy as anything ................... stop giving out the advice and lets see you grow something decent ............... if you need help ask.


mand ;)

When did I ever say I was a better grower then you. Sure I grow pot and I did abandon a thread incase you didnt know, I was asking questions and recieved no replys, after 200 views and me posting 7-8 times myself to hopefully get a reply and I didnt. So why continue something thats useless?? I simply downloaded the Easy grow that was posted in here a while ago. So quite frankly mand you are not a friend of mine you're a foe. I can dish out advice and I can grow , it doesnt matter. There were people kind enough to help me out on my thread and props to you with your grows but I dont really give a shit.

Take your raging some where else instead of the Cultivation forums.
Please

[9ski9]

and KEEP THE F**K OUT OF MY FACE

Ha!

I love you, Mand!

[mand]

Ha!

I love you, Mand!


Thankyou 9ski9 :), I keep being accused of being to thin skinned love, to be honest they don't know me ;)

Some people see manners and "talking too people instead of at them" as weakness .................. well if that's the case then I'm happy to be seen as weak in their eyes:).


love mand xxx :)

[jakenthegentiles]

all right i have no idea whats goen on but what ever theres only one way to settle this it wont be pritty it involves africcan killer bees and alot of mud that is made with dirt and ky i tell u fellas it will not be pritty but it willbe secksey

[msactech1]

Quit your bichin.

[mand]

Quit your bichin.


Thankyou msactech :) .................... You've just given me the perfect example of the crudeness, rudeness and ill mannered little people that we get on this site.

If anyone doubts you're abilty on what I have just said they only have to read a few of you're past posts.

Tell me are you this vulgar and ill mannered in the real world or is it just when you are hidden behind a computer screen ................. you've no need to say I think I know the answer already ;).



Can I ask, what causes you to be so anti social, are you in some way "indatequate" ? .................. Don't tell me let me guess ;) ......... you can't get a girl to come even near you never mind sleep with you ;) .......... You have no friends and have to spend most of the time alone ;).

Are you still at school but don't like to go because no one will let you join there gang. Or are you all grown up but the only job you can get is wearing a paper hat and flipping burgers :p


I won't reply to any of you're responses, but I await any with intrest because it will tell me all about you ;)


Bye .......... love mand xxx :)

[The Grim Reefer]

Omg Mand, thank you so much for changing your avy.

*no more cheese woman!*

Msactech.. heh, why didn't you even bother to spell it right? I hate to carry on the hate, but what's your issue?

Go be a jackass in one of the other many forums in C.com you "contribute" to. This is a forum for the grown ups and people with peace of mind.

[orangeman]

Maybe he needs to be banned and allowed to think about his behavior with his time off :).

[del...]

perhaps because we say it so often to each other that purposely mis-spelling it adds a little light to the phrase? (and that's all it is, after all).

[phillykid]

damn u all are some strange folk. Was it that serious. its not like i made that comment in the hydroponic section or whatever. it was in the lounge strictly casual convo right? anyways from my observations in the couple of weeks ive been here it seems like some of you come here to act out some weird alter ego. so if u were offended my apologies mrs. doubtfire and sensitive pot heads. :thumbsup:

[elcheapo]

I didn't think it was that serious. But then again, the comment wasn't directed at me. You have accidentally 'taken the piss' from a valued member of this site. And calling everyone here 'strange folk' isn't helping your cause.
It's usually the ones with weird alter egos that are easily noticed and remembered. Obviously not everyone here is like that.
Try apologising again without the smartarse remarks. You might even be taken seriously and forgiven.
And remember it's not your responsibility to question or joke about peoples sexuality in the real world or online.
Treat others with the same respect you'd like to be given.

[phillykid]

whatever. ill do me and you'll do you (which your probably used to) BURN!! :dance:

[del...]

jesus mand, you call the guy a "nob cheese" after his flippant remark and that's where it should have ended. but no, you have come whining in here about getting dissed while you obviously out-dissed him in the 1st round...and now the guy has even apologised! when are you going to give it a rest??? accept the gracious apology and move on...i'm about ready to break out the hankie box now...sheesh!

[Trivium]

jesus mand, you call the guy a "nob cheese" after his flippant remark and that's where it should have ended. but no, you have come whining in here about getting dissed while you obviously out-dissed him in the 1st round...and now the guy has even apologised! when are you going to give it a rest??? accept the gracious apology and move on...i'm about ready to break out the hankie box now...sheesh!


Thank you . that is what I was trying to explain earlier, finally a MOD said it.

[The Grim Reefer]

perhaps because we say it so often to each other that purposely mis-spelling it adds a little light to the phrase? (and that's all it is, after all).

I see it now. :thumbsup:

Too bad a word such as bitch has been used so much that we need to change the apperance of it to add a bit of spice.

[9ski9]

Thankyou 9ski9 :), I keep being accused of being to thin skinned love, to be honest they don't know me ;)


Glad you shook it off. And I hope you know there are a lot of people that really value your grow logs; they are like no one else's. Your cheerful and helpful history of posts certainly give you the absolute right to have vented and not be questioned about it---but that's just my 2 cents.

Seems like all's square now, yes?

[9ski9]

Too bad a word such as bitch has been used so much

Lot of people calling you BITCH, Grim?


:D

[del...]

if you prefer "complain" over bitch i'll make a sticky annoucing the site's preference over a verb...(which is all it is in this case...along with, no one said anyone needs to grow any skin...it was only a suggestion and still is)

but what i don't get is y'all seem to condone a personal attack and name calling over someone using bitch as a verb! i think priorties are in need of reorganization somewhere here...on many levels. would you prefer "chill al-fucking-ready" over the quit bitchin comment? they both mean the same and are both in need here...

[The Grim Reefer]

I don't really care anymore Del. I got what I wanted to off of my chest, I don't plan on defending anyone else as I do think Mand took it extremely personal.

As far as the bichin comment, I was more or less attacking him because I didn't see a need for the comment in the first place. Not trying to police this place or anything, I didn't mean to blow up so badly, just after reading his other posts I felt even more obliged to comment on his ego.

And you're right, his comment wasn't even directed towards anyone.

I apologize. Let's all smoke a blunt.

[bob bobbinson]

Blunt lit. puff puff give

[mand]

jesus mand, you call the guy a "nob cheese" after his flippant remark and that's where it should have ended. but no, you have come whining in here about getting dissed while you obviously out-dissed him in the 1st round...and now the guy has even apologised! when are you going to give it a rest??? accept the gracious apology and move on...i'm about ready to break out the hankie box now...sheesh!



Oh dear Del, refering to someone as "Mrs Doubtfire" is not an apology, a vain attempt at sarcasm to save face ............. maybe.

I could go on about how the comment was not made in the lounge, it was actually made in the seed section of the forum, were I was attempting to help Orangeman with his question............................. but I won't.

In truth Philly Kid is of no importance to me whatsoever, infact I should really be wishing him the very best of luck ............. he's going to need it.



You know Del, you mentioned the word "dissed" which I take as a referal too mean dis- respect.
This is how "respect" works............... When talking to someone never talk "at them" but talk "too them". No matter what there age, gender, race, nationallty, speak to them with respect.
Why ? ............................. Simple, when talking to someone in a respectfull manner it will promote the recipent to return the the favour. When recieving the respectfull nature in someones words it then creates the feeling of "self respect".
It's a circle you see Del, the respect creates a feeling of well being and friendship amongst all involved.

I feel quite silly for telling you that because I'm sure you already understand :o



love mand xxx :)

[mand]

Just a little for you Del ;) ............ you see I have no work today and nothing better to do.

Before you critise my feelings and emtions any further, such as .............................."i'm about ready to break out the hankie box now...sheesh!". Let me tell you I know people, I have learned the hard way, but I had too, to make a living you see.
I've been having a look at you're past threads, and I've seen enough to know even I could write words that would hurt you. Just remember that at the end of every computer screen there is a person, and most of those people have feelings.

Anyway putting that aside, from you're avatar I notice we have something in common, I to am a fan of the work of Van Gogh. I have a print of the very same piece on my bedroom wall :)


love mand xxx :)

[mand]

You know I've just realised something ..... What on earth am I doing wasting my time arguing on here with some really ignorant and insensitive people.


Well it's my first aniversary on this site today, so I am going to have to say in our "Mr Harrdons" words ....... "Thanks Guys it's been a Blast"....... but I'm out of here ;)


Bye ....................................... love mand xxx :)

[Zandor]

Well unfortunately mand I feel you are not alone. The whole feel of this site is changed and not for the betterment of all either.

This is becoming a kiddy site now I am afraid to say. I feel that many will soon join you even a few mods, they are feeling the same thing as you. I know it was not that one post but a compilation of many things and even the feeling of this place has changed. We come here to share our love for growing this plant. Some has forgot that and itâ??s a shame. Many new members are only here to play games and move on. They have a short attention span as many children do but if this keeps up the damage will be done and not repairable.

Lets try to remember why we are here in the first place.

[latewood]

yeah!!! What he said! I am very disappointed with this whole damn thread...I cannot believe for any reason, whatsoever that anyone would find fault with mand; I do think mand got a little carried away, (who knows why?, doesn't matter) but for all the love she has spread throughout these grow forums...She sure didn't gain much support this week...this place will definiely be at a loss without her endearing smile and her goofy, laughable ways...And, the lady could grow! More than I can say for most of you.

I said my piece...

lw

[del...]

fyi for everyone...mand has been banned for making threats, not that it matters much, but it's the principle of the thing...it's nothing personal on my end but threats have never been tolerated here.

[bob bobbinson]

Why did this all get so blown up? heres my thing... overgrow is dead. there members are strewn about. some here some elsewhere. so.. these new people were prob from overgrow. but overgrow rocked right? how did they deal with kids? cause we know they had them.

they ignored them. That all people gotta do. is ignore it. read the thread.. then... DONT post a COMEBACK to save face. thats how things get escalated.

Im not taking sides. its not my place. And once again... find me a site with 100 percent adults who never say ANYTHING impropper and ill find u some leprican's gold.

[The Grim Reefer]

Why did this all get so blown up? heres my thing... overgrow is dead. there members are strewn about. some here some elsewhere. so.. these new people were prob from overgrow. but overgrow rocked right? how did they deal with kids? cause we know they had them.

they ignored them. That all people gotta do. is ignore it. read the thread.. then... DONT post a COMEBACK to save face. thats how things get escalated.

Im not taking sides. its not my place. And once again... find me a site with 100 percent adults who never say ANYTHING impropper and ill find u some leprican's gold.

Actually, OG got rid of kids as soon as they surfaced. Sometimes people would slip with "I was in my 7th grade english class.." after being there for years and would get banned.

They had a 0 tolerance for kids from what I heard.

[The Grim Reefer]

Sorry - hit the fiver limit.

I don't think the mods here would ban her for no reason. Our mods are pretty fair and extremely legit in my opinion, and I see some fast bans/deletions once in awhile.

I'd rather have them use too much force than too little anyway.

Mand took things too personally.
Things were taken out of context.
She's banned.
Let's grow and be happy.

[del...]

it's only for a week and hopefully it'll get her into other sites so she can see for herself what happened here happens all but daily practically everywhere there are kids, young adults, oldsters and stoners (in any combination) in a room together. i'm positive if any one of the mods here felt she was being personally insulted or attcked we would have removed it asap...but after going thru it all again i still don't see it...sorry but i don't. it's such a non-issue that i can't believe we've spent 3 pages (and counting) going on about it!

[Adebisi]

that is fucked up del for you to banned a legend on these boards. i read the other mod , zandors comment to mand and he said what he had to say in a nice way. but you had to jump in and show the taco meat on your chest, how big and bad you are. your taking this non paying job a little serious , dont you think? your like a security guard giving out speeding tickets. you gotta laugh at that one hahahahah. but on the real, is it true that some of the mods might be leaving the site? could you be one of the mods? there is no threats made here so there is no need to bann me.

[Jdzzl03]

Man lighten up, del did what he had to do because this thread was getting way too intense. Threats and bs flying all around. There were some probs and now everything has cooled off so dont start stirring problems up...

[bob bobbinson]

Grim... I guess my point was just to say that all forums contain some sort of insults or things that. from adults, and or children. Its unavoidable.

and u cant possibley tell me that there were no insulting/childish posts there.

But I agree with u.. Lets put it all behind us. and smoke and grow :} This site is rewarding to me, and is full of great people. lets keep it that way .

since Garden Knowm is not chiming in. Ill say it.

I LOVE U... :}

[turtle420]

Hey dude, yes... YOU...

Why the fuck did you delete my post?

Do you know phillykid personally? Did it hurt what I said about his mom?

WTF?

I don't like this anymore. This is turning into anarchy/facism... whatever.... go to wikipedia and correct me with the right terms.

Guys, I'm sorry.

But, between many factors... I'm splitting.

Fuck it... I'll start a new thread. Let's see if that one gets deleted.

[WeedFaerie420]

fyi for everyone...mand has been banned for making threats, not that it matters much, but it's the principle of the thing...it's nothing personal on my end but threats have never been tolerated here.


I agree with everything you've said so far in this thread Del. Shouldn't we expect the jerky comments once in a while? I'm pretty new to this site and I have to say that many of the "regulars" here with thousands of posts can sometimes TRY to be intimidating and take things extremely seriously. (thankfully I see you aren't one of those people) I hate the egos...when really, who are these people in real life? Just because someone has been to this site for years doesn't make them smarter or better than a new person. It's like a popularity contest. Am I in High School again? I hope not.

[del...]

that is fucked up del for you to banned a legend on these boards. i read the other mod , zandors comment to mand and he said what he had to say in a nice way. but you had to jump in and show the taco meat on your chest, how big and bad you are. your taking this non paying job a little serious , dont you think? your like a security guard giving out speeding tickets. you gotta laugh at that one hahahahah. but on the real, is it true that some of the mods might be leaving the site? could you be one of the mods? there is no threats made here so there is no need to bann me.


i only stepped in because pk was being dragged thru the dirt and he has been around the pot net for far longer than most of you here and was being made out to be a troll...something he does not do. even after being called out for a very common statement here and in r/l he did not resort to the personal attack and name calling he was being subjected to...so get a clue and be ready to back up your bullshit or i'll call you out too!

and don't even start on my "ego trip" and try to troll me, it'll be a no-win situation besides me showing how wrong you are and are only talking from your butt...read my history here and anywhere on the net. i have nothing to hide and always cover my ass for all of my actions here. you should too before talking shit...

[del...]

Hey dude, yes... YOU...

Why the fuck did you delete my post?

Do you know phillykid personally? Did it hurt what I said about his mom?

WTF?

I don't like this anymore. This is turning into anarchy/facism... whatever.... go to wikipedia and correct me with the right terms.

Guys, I'm sorry.

But, between many factors... I'm splitting.

Fuck it... I'll start a new thread. Let's see if that one gets deleted.


you are so dull you have to question the removal of a needless post that is actually none of your biz in the 1st place??? and i quote:

Yes Mand, you are hot.

<SNIPPED THE BS>

How the hell did you acquire a picture of PhillyKid's mother?


nah, go ahead and go. we don't need any more haters than we already have. fucking hypocrite.

[Baghdad Bob]

Oh dear :o

Now Gentlemen, can I ask you all to sit back pour a drink a just read. Not just got through as quick as possible to get to the end but to take you're time and read ..................... I know how it's usually done, I have four older brothers and two sons and not one of them has ever read anything properly, they were just to egaer to get to the end.


Now before you go off on one Del, this is my sons account, he saw what was happening and wanted to wade in, but I stopped them.

You know this reminds me of the days when I used to go to the town centre pubs, on Saturday nights there was always fights and arguments between some of the lads.


Philly, to you what you said was nothing, to me it hurt like you could never imagaine. You and I are from totally different backgrounds, ages, genders, social enviroments. The difference is vast between us, I imagine that you probably come from somewhere were it expected for a young man to act in a certain way ............ to be honest love we are not on the same wave length.
I probably went the wrong way about venting my hurt, if you had apologised then that would have been the end of the matter ........... I do not hold grudges, one thing I have learned is that life is too short for that.



Now Del, just for once read without predjudice ;) .................... To be honest Del you're moderating skills leave a lot to be desired, you have actually made things worse. Yes this is critisim don't get angry take it like a man.
I never threatned you at all, I pointed out that people can be hurt by just words alone. The moment you read something you didn't like you instantly hit the ban button, and yet when I complained of being hurt by words you mocked me with the hankie quote.
Think about it Del it works both ways love.
I am not critising you as a person, I have no reason for that, it is not my style.
I am quite sure that there is a dam good person there, I have read you're Mothers day thread and you use Van Gogh for an avatar, to me they both show sensitivity.
You said you didn't ban by personal motive, think about it Del are you really so sure.
To me a ban doesn't mean a thing, but leaving here with the knowledge I have created all this anomosity between fellow growers does bother me. I never ever wanted that.




So Gentlemen as the author of this thread, can I ask you are you going to keep arguing and causing futher strife with each other. Or are you willing to shake hands put differences aside and do what you all do best ........................... to stick a finger up at the esthablishment and grow something that is quite sacred to us all ;)



love mand xxx :)



Oh Latewood :) I have been trying every which way to contact you but I don't know how :o

Turtle :) You cannot leave untill I see that "turtle harvest" or else I'll hunt you down and slap you bloody legs ;) :)


Hey Philly :) , is this avatar "dudish" enough for you ;)


Bye all ................ Thankyou for taking the time to read :)

[del...]

ouch mand, mr bob or whatever you call yourself next...now that hurt.

just take your punishment like a man and quit yer moaning and groaning (does that suit your delicate yet oh so hyprocritical tastes better?). you are only justifying the ban i gave you. you were banned for tossing out your threats, personal attacks on other members and childish antics in general. grow up already...or stay away.

[Tom Swierzbinski]

I think we all need to forget about this and move on.

[postmandave]

Bang out of order.Zandor i hear you mate.This has all just went crazy.its all about respect at the end of the day and that coment was disrespectful to mand.del you over reacted as usual .whats going on with you.enough from me.the postman.

[del...]

i love it...

over reacted just how? by stepping in when i see another member wrongfully attacked and the offender is allowed to continue to the point of the "i have friends"..."i can hurt you"...just how am i suppose to take it??? then mand sneaks back in only to toss out more insults and taunts. what page are you on???

mand gets from me the exact same respect mand gives. same as anyone else...period.

i am available in the chat or email if you care to sort this out. otherwise this is a closed subject as far as i'm concerned.

[mobay]

del you know what, you should have put a lock on this whole thing a long time ago. but no your just like the rest, want to keep shit going. your supposed to be the mod here. there should have been a lock on this thread right after philly said he was sorry. del your insulting mand on here like a newbie post # 71. instead of feeding into all this shit , why dont you teach others how to grow like zandor. mods why dont you all put a lock on shit when you see its about to get out of hand. fuckin drama.

[del...]

i only respond. don't care for my response then don't ask for it.

[mobay]

grow up

[9ski9]

i only stepped in because pk was being dragged thru the dirt and he has been around the pot net for far longer than most of you here and was being made out to be a troll...

and don't even start on my "ego trip" and try to troll me, it'll be a no-win situation besides me showing how wrong you are and are only talking from your butt...read my history here and anywhere on the net. i have nothing to hide and always cover my ass for all of my actions here. you should too before talking shit...

Phillykid has been around the pot net for far longer than WHOM, del?

He asked if fake bud is worth buying and if carbonated soda will help your plants.

AND he also posted:

"I know that your supposed to top early in the veg stage. Since its my first grow i was think of leaving it alone cuz i might fuk it up. but its also part of the learning experience, u dig me "

"whats the cause of missing leaves? i got about 7 plants growing outdoors. all about a month n 1/2 old. im thinking its the bugs right? I heard using insect killer isnt good for the plants, so what do i do?"

"o yea damn it must be them dumbass rabbits. i already tried pissing around plants but it didnt work. i did get rid of the deers tho i just gathered up some rocks and did like roger clemens."

PK is an absolute NEWBIE and acted like a troll to a contributing member to this MB. You were wrong to CLAIM he apologized. He did not. And then to CLAIM he's some sort of long-timer on pot MB's?

Del, man, that's just absurd. He tossed 90 seeds out in his yard and "pissed his pants" that something popped up.

I really don't mean to call you out, del. But dissing Mand over this was wrong. And you didn't back it up with facts...you backed it up with baloney about PK.

Be a man, dude, and reinstate Mand and maybe offer an apology. You owe it to her.

And until that happens, my log is CLOSED and I'm done posting on this site.

Very uncool, del.

But PEACE, anyway.

[postmandave]

Same with me . Del you should reinstate mand and admit you were wrong.this is the only way you will retain any respect . You have pissed me off for a while you are so full of shit Del .you have backed this twat and you know he was disrespectful. i don't blame mand for losing the plot with this fucking nugget he was disrespectful end of story and you should damn know better .anyway i hear what zandor was saying about this site .so if mand isn't reinstated i wont be posting here anymore ,not that i will be missed lol.I just cant sit back and be apart of this.It seems to be acceptable to be disrespectful if you are a kid or a dude but i have kids and they would never think of being disrespectful like that to anyone.Del you should have got a grip of this situation as soon as it started but you added to it and that isn't acceptable from a mod IMO.later peepo. the postman

[elcheapo]

Del... has already quit moderating.

[mobay]

are you serious elcheapo? because if you are that would be the best thing the owners has done for the future of this site. he must have known that he was getting canned , thats why he was keeping shit going and banning people left and right.

to you zandor i respect you alot, and i hope you continue to help us and the forums grow better. keep up the good modding. and thanks for that sticky lol.

[mobay]

good that fucker is really gone, and i hope he stays gone. here is his last words lol lol lol.

del...
Moderator Join Date: Jan-19-2004
Location: Great Basin Desert
Posts: 1,823



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yes. i just posted in the mod room about it all and now i'll make it official here.


i quit. i signed on to a cannabis site and wish to stay with it but i no longer feel safe because of the contributing to delinquency thing. this is not a spur of the moment action but has been brewing for a while now and after discussing the recent threats regarding my posts here with a lawyer friend yesterday...i feel now is a good of time to hit the bricks as there are enough mods here now and they know how things work.

good bye, good luck and stay safe...

[mobay]

mand come back home girl and turtle 420 as well.

[bob bobbinson]

damn not u too postman..... dont think u will not be missed if u leave bro. U will. U cant leave man.


So everyone... out of all this drama... who feels better? Anyone? I know I dont. So what was the point in it all. Nothing........

[postmandave]

Nope if that nugget has gone thats fine with me. this guy has had a problem for a while .Anyway mand get your butt back on hear girl.We all know mand like a mother figure hear she has always giving great advice and goes out her way to answer all posts in her threads.We all know that kids these days don't find any harm in some of the off the cuff marks they make but to the older growers hear it is damn disrespectful .This should be the end of this matter .one last thing to say to all you youngsters out there if someone made the said comment to your mother would you find it funny then,its all about RESPECT and it should be given were deserved.the postman

[mand]

Hello :)


This is actually my second attempt at writting this, I spent an hour typing it all out, hit the sumbit button and it vanished into I don't no where :o .

Anyway, can I just Thank those members who saw the truth of this whole horrible situation. I didn't want to cause any of this, the fact is a remark was made and I can understand absolutely anyone thinking I was overreacting.
Well to me it brought back memories of a past that was the lowest point of my life, so I lost my temper. I am not proud of it, I am actually very embarrased by it, it was unforgivable and should not have happened. However I am only human and I do have a breakiing point, I know that is no excuse but I'm affraid it happens ................. I am sorry.

The situation was actually flamed by someone who was supposed to keep these things inorder. For that person I have written a statement of truth, not an attack but a true statement as I see it ................

Del you are a bully and like all bullies you're behaviour is childish, "if I don't get what I want I will have a tantrum", "if I don't get what I want I will ban you. I have never or will I ever back down to a bully.
Del you totally ignored anything I had to say and just made up you're own lies as you went along.
Del you are a liar, you acted towards me the way you did because for you're own personal reasons for disliking me, you also told lies inorder to back up you're pathetic little exscuse about Philly Kid being a seasoned cannabis person, he is a ill mannered little boy who knows nothing. You used the exscuse of protecting Phily Kid from my "unwarranted attack", as a cover for you're own personal dislike off me. You quoted me as saying "I have friends, I will hurt you", Del do you think that people are so ignorant as to believe that ........................ they can read you know, and they can see that I never ever said those words. In my veiw you were treating the members of these boards as though they were idiots.
You did you're upmost to cause me distress and slander my honour.
Such actions from a so called moderator are totally unacceptble, you abused you're position on these boards to satisfy you're own ego.

Can you remember once when I wandered on to the chatroom and I tried to talk to you about growing, no I bet you don't ............ well I do, you were rude and abrasive with me then, I remember thinking "what is this guys problem with me".

Final proof of you're personal hatred towards me I will copy you're message to me ............................ You have been banned for the following reason:
piss off poser...legend my ass, just another lame-ass poser looking for a tease.
Date the ban will be lifted: Never

My final words to you, I won't say as you did to me "Piss off you lame assed poser", I'll just say "you do not impress me at all".




Well I have had my say, I hope I can be allowed to contribute in my own way to the growing section of these boards. It has become somewhere I enjoy visting and chatting with others who enjoy growing something that has become apart of my life.
I admit that when I started growing it was just because it was cheaper then buying, but nowdays if I havent a grow underway, I feel that there is something missing ...................... "cannabis does not become addictive untill you start growing it", those words are so true.


Once again my Thanks and apologies to all .............. love mand xxx :)

[9ski9]

It sure was weird seeing you listed as "banned", mand...that whole series of events was just crazy. It was like we were only reading every other sentence because something else was going on.

I think Zandor showed himself as being as good a moderator as he is a tomato grower...

Good stuff, Zandor....thank you.

Peace.

[mand]

Hello 9ski9 :), I owe you my many thanks and upmost gratitude :)
I read you're post and the way you pointed out the facts that had been not just twisted but totally lied about......... Thankyou very much :)

As for Zandor, if I had been banned by him then there would be no argument about it, he is without doubt a excellent grower but also someone I am indebted too.

love mand xxx :)

[Tom Swierzbinski]

Well, to the relief of many on here - mainly the people in the growing sections - Del... has now quit as a moderator.
And good riddance may I add. Mods, when you choose another mod, please pick someone like BobBong, and NOT someone like Del again. I am sure many people on here think that its a good thing that Del has quit.

Not flaming, just stating :)

[mand]

Hello Tom :) , is this you're usual way of smoking ;)


Tell you what love, even when I was really angry that pic made me smile :)


Thanks Tom ................. love mand xxx :)

[Tom Swierzbinski]

Nah, I soak the herb in olive oil and use it as a suppository.

[mand]

Oh my god Tom .................. how did you answer so quick :eek:

I'd only just hit the submit button :)


You'll have to excuse me Tom, I've been on the vody all evening, and I think it's time to turn in :o

Thanks for the laugh :)

love mand xxx :)

[Hollandica]

Maybe philly is an asshole and his remark was a bit ill-chosen, it's been said and if he says sorry you'll never find out if he means it :) peace out

wybe

[mand]

Maybe philly is an asshole and his remark was a bit ill-chosen, it's been said and if he says sorry you'll never find out if he means it :) peace out

wybe


A good point Hollandica. At the time it hurt, more than I can describe ..... but at the end of the day does it really matter what somebody who means nothing to me said.
I have a feeling that I'm starting to take this whole internet thing far too seriously ............. I mean arguing with people I don't even know.

Anyway I see our Mr Latewood is now a modererator , my only question there is why did it take so long to ask him ????

Hello Latewood :) , Could I ask you as you're first offical duty to put a lock on this thread, it is just full of negitivity and we both know that's not what were here for;) .
I'm affraid I have caused a lot of ill feeling with it, and for that I am sorry.


love mand xxx :)

[Dutch Pimp]

I am glad free speech is still alive on the internet. Mods control the Machine, but not the person.

[latewood]

Yes, Mand I will. It has had plenty of time...I just hadn't looked here for awhile...peace

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