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turtle420
05-27-2006, 08:07 PM
((NOTE: This was written 2 days ago.))
Hello to all my good friends.
I hope you are all doing very good when you read this.
What you're about to read, has been very hard for me.
I'm sure many of you will not approve... but you don't matter then.
And I'm sure many of you will be supportive in my decision... and you are the ones that matter.
Today, I killed my girls. My gorgeous, beautiful hydro girls... clones from the same mother... identical to each other. Yet, each one of its own peculiarities. Each one, unique.
September 2005. That's when I started this great journey in cannabis growing. It was a time full of great hopes and high dreams. A time when I was unexperienced with growing... unexperienced with the boards.cannabis.com. Times when the future seemed to be in the palm of my hand. I will forever relish this time. Forever.
So, you must be wondering:::
What the fuck happened Turtle?!
Love guys... love. Real love.
My significant other (I'm about 1/4-of-a-lifetime old), well... my significant other couldn't crack it. Paranoia grabbed the best of her. She just doesn't feel comfortable with the plants in our lives right now... not anymore.
So, to me... it was a no-brainer. I will not pick a plant above the woman I intend to marry. The woman I love.
This sucks in many respects. In many respects... :(
But I thought to my self...
Fuck it man... fuck it. I can plant seeds again in the future... I can start again in the future... I can clone again in a better enviroment.
But my woman?!
Guys... I cannot plant another seed to sprout such a woman. I cannot clone such a woman.
So that's it. In a nutshell.
I will still log in to the boards. I will still be a part of this great community. I will still help out all my friends...
And guys... grow! Grow for me!!! Post pictures... shitloads of pictures. I will enjoy that very much.
When I start growing again, you can be sure you guys will be the 1st to know.
Thanks for everything, and see you soon.
Best to you all, and much safety, peace, and love,
-turtle420 :cool:
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(NOTE to Garden Knwom::: gK, when I had the climax of this dilema 2-3 days ago, I wrote you an eMail... but, because of time constraints, and other "stuff", I was unable to send it your way. But the eMail was, in essence, talking to a friend. Thanks for the friendship Wanker... errr... I mean, gK)
cactusman23
05-27-2006, 08:38 PM
I just got back from watching x men III and I log on to see that you have the same tile I have in my house!!! Oh well about the grow. Shit happens. But it was an awesome ride. :(
smokesalot
05-28-2006, 06:20 AM
i feel sorrow for your loss's but it takes a big man to say fuck it to something you have invested so much time and effort in i understand where your commin from (i'm married) and love is worth it's weight in buds over and over
i hope you have found happieness good luck
also i've read your posts and used alot of info you provided and so i say thanks
good luck -a little advise from one guy to another choose your battles wisely there not all worth fighting
graph
05-28-2006, 06:28 AM
Turtle, I don't want this to sound gay, but I think I love you.
We all have different paths in life. It is understandable. The next time I plant, I will name a mother turtle. I'll take care of the mother and she'll give me beautiful clones, which I will probably name pamela anderson and jessica alba, but that's beside the matter.
What strain do you want it to be?
The Grim Reefer
05-28-2006, 06:39 AM
Yeah Turtle, I'll name one for you. Give me a name.. any name!
You remind me a lot of myself sometimes, the path you've chosen is a path of the stronger.
Jdog7000
05-28-2006, 03:02 PM
I don't know man.
It would have to be Hally Berry for me to cut down all those plants.
I'm sure you got your reasons.
But if it was me. I would have at least finished the harvest.
I would have told her to deal with it for a couple more months and I'll by you an ingagment ring! lol
Sorry to hear this bro. But like you said. If she leaves you that is.
You can always grow more.
I couldn't be with a female like that.
Garden Knowm
05-28-2006, 03:46 PM
totally normal turtle... one of the hardest things to deal with when ONE grows ganja... is the thoughts of leo coming into your life and creating havoc...
hapiness is fun...
: )
Jdog7000
05-28-2006, 03:55 PM
Whos LEO???????
lol
Maybe I'm just saying all that because I'm single. and alone. And lonely.
I hate my life!!!! jk
jakenthegentiles
05-28-2006, 04:24 PM
turtle your wisdom has helped me alot and i will dedacate my next grow with is starting in a week or 2 to you and i will start a growlog for you with pics evey few days im sorry u cant grow any more man but u made a o k deshion if i was marrying a chick and she wnated me to stop growing id say what u can go out and get ur hair and nails done but u cant persue a hobby that i love but hey thats just me maby she got jelious of ur other "girlfriends"
cactusman23
05-28-2006, 08:37 PM
Hope she doesnt suddenly change her mind about it, they tend to do things like that.
HapaPride
05-28-2006, 08:39 PM
wow that made my eyes water... much respect.... at least you know and she knows that she is the one for you
krustythfreakinclown
05-29-2006, 05:16 AM
Turtle,
Glad to hear you are in love.
In my years of observing others and myself in relationships with women, I've come to the following conclusion:
Women will destroy the person you are and mold you into the person they think you should be, regardless of whether it's in your best interest or not.
I've heard guys talk about things like "sacrifice", and "choosing your battles"; it's all a bunch of self-delusional bullshit.
Here's the deal: Women only allow the men victories on things which don't bother the women and have no impact on their "plans" for their men. This sets the stage for men to think that they "get away" with things, or that the men "put their foot down" on something, when the women didn't really care in the first place. This gives men the illusion that they share power with the women in the relationship.
It's all a lie.
Your woman has made you turn your back on a passion of yours because she doesn't like you doing it. That is the true reason why she hen-pecked you into killing your babies. Sure, she used reasons like getting busted by LEO, doesn't like the smell, it raises the electricity bill, etc. But the real reason is that she just plain doesn't like it. Also, it's a way of her getting you to surrender to her on something which she KNOWS you are passionate about. This establishes a precedent for her holding power in the relationship.
Next thing you know, she's going to be redecorating the place, making you eat vegatarian and start dressing a way you wouldn't have ever allowed yourself to before you met her (e.g., khakis and a golf shirt with loafers). Hell, she'll even dictate how your hair should be cut.
Ask any married man about the motorcycle they had to get rid of, or the trips to Vegas they aren't allowed to go on anymore, or the season tickets to baseball they had to give up.
Then, you should ask what the woman had to give up...Oh, yeah, she just has to let the guy fuck her once a week and give a blowjob or let him do anal on anniversaries.
Who has the net gain?
Good luck in love. I hope to be as happy as you someday soon! :thumbsup:
Jdog7000
05-29-2006, 12:53 PM
Man, that is so true.
I'm sure there are some women that are not like that. But from my experience you are dead on!
turtle420
05-29-2006, 02:55 PM
cactusMan,
Thanks for the post man. I hope to see that movie soon. :)
And yes, it was most definitely an awesome ride!
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smokesalot,
Thanks for the words dude.
You are very right when you say that not all battles are worth fighting. That is wisdom right there.
I also, definitely, hope I have found happiness.
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Graph,
Don't worry man.... doesn't sound gay.
As for your future mother... haha! That'd be fun... maybe.... it would suck to have it turn out a male... HA!
Strain? Man, I'd be very much happy if you picked it. Make it... some of the weed strain the the pope smokes before talking to the masses. LOL !!!
Thanks ;)
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Grim Reefer,
Hey man! :)
Names?
How about
GrowBitch! and I'llNEVERkillYOU
????
Those sound nice.
LOL!!!!
The path: Well, I'm just going forward. It'll definitely make me stronger... whatever the outcome, it'll be the best.
:) Peace dude, thanks.
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Hey Jdog,
My woman is very hot... so, that part is covered. :D
As to finishing the harvest: Man, I think there was going to be no relationship to go back to if I waited until harvest was finished.
As to the engagement ring... shit man... another one?!
LOL !!!!!
As to growing again, it will happen... just when she feels more comfortable. It'll happen man... I've got no doubts. And obviously, I'll post it here.
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Garden Knowm,
Thanks dude. Havoc, would have been very fucked up. Very fucked up.
gK, I have no doubt in my mind I'll be growing again. I don't think soon, but definitely within 2 years. Hmmm... "definitely"? Maybe I should edit that....
But man, do not worry... I'll grow, and obviously, post here. Everybody will know.
I just hope I can harvest before SkillzRemix's son graduates from college!
lol lol lol
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Jdog,
LEO = Law Enforcement Officers.
They don't so much "enforce" the law, but simply try and fuck you for not following it.
You don't hate your life... :)
You love it!!! :)
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JakenTheGentiles,
Thanks for posting here dude!
Man, I would definitely need to send her out and get her hair and nails done! Ahahaa! Yeah man...
I definitely love this hobby.... darn it!
As to jealousness of the other "girlfriends"... LOL!!!! Haha! Probably man.... probably.
Take much care good buddy, :) Peace to you,
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CactusMan,
The change of mind is a definite possibility... but it doesn't really matter now.... no turning back. Only waiting again... :(
I know man... I know.
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HapaPride,
Thanks for those words man... thanks for the respect.
We definitely love each other... so let's see what the future holds!
:) Much care man, much care to you :)
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KrustyTHEfreakingCLOWN,
Wow man... nice post.
You seem like a very cool dude to sit down, and talk some deep shit every month or so.
Your inputs on women are very interesting... and definitely worthwhile to read.
I cannot claim my woman doesn't do things like that, because both me and her are growing. We're both in this process... so many things are changing.
But,... in my opinion, love, real love, will entail a respect for such differences, and a continuing struggle to comprehend and accept the other partner.
"""Your woman has made you turn your back on a passion of yours because she doesn't like you doing it. That is the true reason why she hen-pecked you into killing your babies. Sure, she used reasons like getting busted by LEO, doesn't like the smell, it raises the electricity bill, etc. But the real reason is that she just plain doesn't like it. Also, it's a way of her getting you to surrender to her on something which she KNOWS you are passionate about. This establishes a precedent for her holding power in the relationship. """
She did like the hobby... but we moved about 2 months ago to a new crib, and the new place doesn't have the same peacefull "vibe" to it...
"Hen-pecked" <-- man, I've seen this happen to my friends, various times.
But I can tell you honestly, this wasn't the case this time.
In fact, she did not tell me EVER to kill them.
When I showed her the empty grow cab... she just stood there.... dumbfounded... speechless... expressionless.... not sorrow... not happyness... just... blank stare into what was once a kick-ass SCRoG.
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As to making me eat vegetarian food... I'd rather fucking die before I eat vegetables. I eat meat man. Ugggghhh... vegetables.
Regarding the khakis, golf shirt, and loafers... well, ... I see your point. I'll just have to give you a report up-date in about 2 years time... to see how it's going. :)
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Woman vs Men trade-offs...
You are right about a lot of that stuff.
But you see, I think society "glamours" so much the fucked-up relationships, many people actually DO believe that it's impossible to achieve a long lasting, life-long relationship with another person. A love man/woman relationship.
And this is, entirely plausible.
It's just that MTV, Time and Eminem are very, seriously fucked-up.
Now, regarding fucks, BJs and anals...
Fucking once a week?
Darn it... I thought I was in a down-slump because we fucked about 4-5 times a week... once a week is just, depressing.
If I ever get to that, I'll give you a holla, tell you you were right, and give you for free ALL my equipment.
Regarding blowjobs... hahaha!
Dude, we men can't ever get enough. So, I don't think either you or me are every going to be "objective" regarding that. AHAHAHAA!
Anal... on anniversaries... only?.... I'd better start coming up with anniversaries for shit... like, buying one goldfish every week... PING! Anniv.
LOL!!! Funny dude... funny shit.
CONCLUSIONS::::
Net gain? Who has the net gain?
Darn it dude... hard to tell. Hard to tell.
I've come to believe that it's a balancing act. Both partners need to show respect and desire for that balance, or it'll not work.
Sure, one of them might be super happy, thinking everything is going like in the fairy-tales... but it's just building up pressure... something is going to blow, eventually.
Nothing, let's hope I make it. :)
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Hey everyone, thanks for everything. I really do like the replies from this here, my friends.
Best wishes to all of you, and let's hope I can grow again ASAP,
Peace guys,
-turtle420 :cool:
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krustythfreakinclown
05-29-2006, 04:28 PM
Glad to hear you're giving it serious thought.
In any event, you sound very happy right now and that is what is important for you.
When is the wedding? :D
Can I come? Better question: Can we ALL come? :D :D
The Grim Reefer
05-29-2006, 07:18 PM
Krusty - do you have aim or an e-mail I can reach you at? You sound like a very intelligent well-rounded guy and I'd like to chat with you.
/hijack
Turtle - It sounds to me like you have everything figured out in this point in time and you've thought things through at every angle. I believe that even if she doesn't end up working out for you in the long run, you're the kind of person who will only become stronger.
cactusman23
05-29-2006, 09:09 PM
Your still growing turtle, metaphorically of course.:thumbsup:
elcheapo
05-30-2006, 03:52 AM
Good move Turtle. It took a strong man to dump the hobby. Will probably take a few weeks before you feel like something isn't missing. Hope to see you hanging around the boards still. You and GK have given me a lot of good laughs and everyone a lot of good information and encouragement.
Best of luck to you and your missus. If the relationship doesn't work out for some reason then at least you know you did what you could.
turtle420
05-30-2006, 04:25 PM
Glad to hear you're giving it serious thought.
In any event, you sound very happy right now and that is what is important for you.
When is the wedding? :D
Can I come? Better question: Can we ALL come? :D :D
Haha!
Thanks dude... :) Thanks.
I believe things like this can be discussed in these boards.
I mean, fuck it. Many people are reading this... many people are learning from this. Including me. So it's all good. All is good.
When is the wedding?
Ummm.... no date yet.
Can you come?
FUCK YES!!!
Can you ALL come?
FUCK definitely YES!!!
I'll let you guys know when it happens... yeah!
Krusty - do you have aim or an e-mail I can reach you at? You sound like a very intelligent well-rounded guy and I'd like to chat with you.
/hijack
Turtle - It sounds to me like you have everything figured out in this point in time and you've thought things through at every angle. I believe that even if she doesn't end up working out for you in the long run, you're the kind of person who will only become stronger.
Krusty definitely sounds like a well-rounded guy. A good friend he most definitely is.
Grim, I have various things figured out, but I always think in my life:
Cherish change.
That's the only sure thing in life... change. Cherish it.
Of course, one always tries to shoot for what one wants... to shape things how one desires.
But that isn't bad.
One of my favorite quotes:::
The best way to predict the future is to create it.
:) That's a good one. :)
Your still growing turtle, metaphorically of course.:thumbsup:
Damn straight. Damn straight.
Interesting thing: since I've no longer the grow on-going, man... I feel like SuperMan... A cop could pull me over for running a red-light, or for speeding... or whatever... and I just feel like:
HAHAHAHa! Speeding ticket! Whatever dude... write it out to your heart's desire!
And I don't tell him, but what I'm thinking is: I just stopped growing... serious shit. And now he wants to give me a ticket for speeding? Ha! Go for it man...
By this, guys, don't think I'm out there doing crazy shit... but I DEFINITELY feel like a 600 pound Gorilla has gotten OFF my chest. Uffff..... I sleep tight at night.
But for next grow (whenever that is...), I'll take some precautions that'll make everything a little bit safer. Safer to sleep at night.
Good move Turtle. It took a strong man to dump the hobby. Will probably take a few weeks before you feel like something isn't missing. Hope to see you hanging around the boards still. You and GK have given me a lot of good laughs and everyone a lot of good information and encouragement.
Best of luck to you and your missus. If the relationship doesn't work out for some reason then at least you know you did what you could.
Thanks ElCheapo... good words.
I definitely did what I could... definitely.
Anyways, guys... thanks for all the words of encouragement.
I'll keep you all updated. :)
Peace guys, peace,
-turtle420 :cool:
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Chaos
06-01-2006, 10:04 PM
sucks to hear man...shit happens though...hopefully the next one will even be better:)
Relic2279
06-03-2006, 06:37 PM
I took a different route. My girlfriend gave me a similar ultimatium. Guess who ended up getting kicked.
I've had my share of long term relationships. I know that, no matter how much you are in love, how blind you are to everything else because of a women, your relationship will probably fail. (I'm being a realist, not a pessimist).
They say that more then 50% of all marriages fail. Ever do more research? The odds of you and your woman lasting as BF and GF are almost 75% against you. If you marry her, then your odds get a bit better. They drop to 50/50.
On the day she gave me that ultimatium, I had called around and found a place to move. Luckily I was on a month to month basis with my rent and was out in 24 hours. Didn't tell her where I moved too. I think she regretted the incident as she still to this day calls me.
My grow was bigger then yours. I've been saving up so I can start up my own business. Unfortunately, MJ is an intergral part of my savings and once I go legit, I will hopefully have achieved my american dream. Your grow wasn't as important to you as mine was to me, so I can see how easy that desicion was. I hope your choice was based on a comprimise, and not an ultimatium like mine. Any woman who tells you what you can and can't do, is not worth being with. A relationship will fail without comprimise. Good luck.
Relic2279
06-03-2006, 06:44 PM
The attachment... Fact or Fiction??
jamstigator
07-04-2006, 12:39 PM
My woman needs cannabis, so she doesn't have to use prescription meds to sleep (she's a total insomniac without some type of medication). Even so, she was extremely paranoid, but I held firm, and she's happy now that I did, because she's off all those (addictive) prescription meds, she feels better, she sleeps better, and it's cheaper than buying pot off the street. Plus, she knows she's getting safe, reliable medication this way, not some street stuff laced with who-knows-what. Had SHE held firm, I probably would have given in and trashed the growing idea (going without pot, even for years at a time, is not something I have ever found particularly difficult). However, we've been together (unmarried) for...mmm...17.5 years now. I don't think I'd have given in if I'd only known her for a few months or a year or two. But fortunately, she needs the pot more than I do. ;)
I hope your relationship goes well! If nothing else, you have some bargaining currency next time you want something and she doesn't, because you have already given up something you enjoyed.
Jdog7000
07-04-2006, 01:37 PM
I have a recomendation for insomnia.
Weed saved my life.
I would tell the chick to tyake a hike if she gave me that choice between her and weed.
It's like you said.
It will probably fail anyway.
stinkyattic
07-04-2006, 01:47 PM
Turtle, you're a wise man.
Go with your heart. But don't get rid of your gear! I expect to see you hanging out with Latewood and his veggies, at least!
All the nay-sayers who are talking about women sucking your soul...
Bad relationships go both ways. Sometimes the behaviors that men feel are so controlling, cold, whatever are just self-defense mechanisms.
If you are a truly happy couple, you have nothing to worry about.
Just don't hold it over her head that you made that big sacrifice. It isn't healthy.
When I first met my boyfriend, I didn't even smoke. It took a long time to just get used to the idea of having MJ around the house, and there were times that I was like, whoa, this is too much for me to come home to every night. I'm not going to lie, it was like a year before I was even comfortable with the amount that he smokes.
Now we live together, very happily, and he builds me cool shit for my growroom and I grow for both of us to enjoy together.
The trick is, neither of us really had any expectations. It just took some time to find that comfort level... It's like 2 people sitting on a kind of small sofa. It's possible for both of them to get comfortable, but takes a little wriggling around and changing positions...
You have a whole future to maybe show your partner that the ability to nurture another living thing, even if it's a plant, is actually one of the best qualities she could ever want in a man.
Best of wishes to you.
jamstigator
07-05-2006, 11:59 AM
I don't agree that it's unhealthy for one person in a relationship to have their sacrifices recognized by the other. That's not the same thing as 'holding it over her head', but if she doesn't recognize the sacrifice, that isn't right, and reinforces the belief that she can make you do (or not do) whatever she wants. Relationships (that last) are about give and take, compromise. You give up some things to make your partner happier, but the converse should also be true, else the relationship is one-sided and likely doomed to failure, or at least there will be an undue amount of unhappiness endured by the one making the bulk of the sacrifices. Compromise is VERY healthy for relationships, but compromise involves sacrifice by both parties, and recognition of those sacrifices.
stinkyattic
07-05-2006, 01:14 PM
You're right on.
I completely agree that sacrifices should be recognized, and that both parties need to be flexible enough to make them.
If she is as wonderful as Turtle says, I'm sure she will see it without him having to remind her of it constantly, or the next time he wants something, like someone else suggested.
rhino44
07-05-2006, 04:12 PM
move it outdoorsnext year and dont let her in on it
BongHitBoy420
08-06-2006, 05:22 PM
Turtle,
Glad to hear you are in love.
In my years of observing others and myself in relationships with women, I've come to the following conclusion:
Women will destroy the person you are and mold you into the person they think you should be, regardless of whether it's in your best interest or not.
I've heard guys talk about things like "sacrifice", and "choosing your battles"; it's all a bunch of self-delusional bullshit.
Here's the deal: Women only allow the men victories on things which don't bother the women and have no impact on their "plans" for their men. This sets the stage for men to think that they "get away" with things, or that the men "put their foot down" on something, when the women didn't really care in the first place. This gives men the illusion that they share power with the women in the relationship.
It's all a lie.
Your woman has made you turn your back on a passion of yours because she doesn't like you doing it. That is the true reason why she hen-pecked you into killing your babies. Sure, she used reasons like getting busted by LEO, doesn't like the smell, it raises the electricity bill, etc. But the real reason is that she just plain doesn't like it. Also, it's a way of her getting you to surrender to her on something which she KNOWS you are passionate about. This establishes a precedent for her holding power in the relationship.
Next thing you know, she's going to be redecorating the place, making you eat vegatarian and start dressing a way you wouldn't have ever allowed yourself to before you met her (e.g., khakis and a golf shirt with loafers). Hell, she'll even dictate how your hair should be cut.
Ask any married man about the motorcycle they had to get rid of, or the trips to Vegas they aren't allowed to go on anymore, or the season tickets to baseball they had to give up.
Then, you should ask what the woman had to give up...Oh, yeah, she just has to let the guy fuck her once a week and give a blowjob or let him do anal on anniversaries.
Who has the net gain?
Good luck in love. I hope to be as happy as you someday soon! :thumbsup:
I study people for a living - I study people for fun - and I study women to seduce them with an alarming success rate. You are TOTALLY correct. Which is why the all the old cliche's about nice guys finishing last, girls fall for bad boys etc. Bottom line is females like a challenge. Females want to conquer with love. Why do you think females love the BAD BOY -- because it is a challenge. Period. To change him. What biger challenge?
Want proof? This is a simple lil thing to prove exactly what im saying.... Next time you talk to a woman and things are going good.... DO NOT ASK her for her phone number -- instead challenge her. "Its too bad well never get a chance to connect like this again... i dont have your number"
You just tossed down the gauntlet. And shes female. She wants to prove you wrong. 90% of the time your gonna get that number just from sheer principal alone. She wants to prove you wrong. And on the plus side no rejection -- you never asked :)
I'm true to myself and myself only. If --SHE-- has a problem with what --I'M-- into, like, engaged in, currently doing... Shes obviously not the one for me. I change for noone but me and me alone because *I* want to. I'm born into this world myself -- and leave this world myself. Theres how many billion of people on this planet? and 2/3 of them are women. Pfft change this. Like doritos -- crunch all you want well make more.
BongHitBoy420
08-06-2006, 05:54 PM
remember too that her logic center in her brain is um... little to non existant. to a female its not what they think is right or wrong, good or bad. has nothing to do with the facts, or if its even moral. to a female, emotions rule completely. from cheating to seeing someone and breaking up with the other guy to be w/ the new guy... to crying for hours because they dont understand why XX happened... Giggleing for hours over photographs to tearing up on movies. Emotions rule her being.
Lets put this into terms guys can understand. Lets pretend its a BIG GIRL. Lord knows how you ended up w/ her in the first place, but lets pretend. Now shes feeling a milkshake right... I mean shes REALLY feeling this milkshake but shes suspose to be on a diet. I ask you good sir -- knowing full well you cannot reason with her because logic is mute (shes on a diet) and shes feeling that milkshake... I dunno about you -- but i'll be damned if imma be standing in the way of bertha and the milkshake ya know?!? Cant talk reason to an emotional being.
Wake up guys. Women most certinaly do have plans. She indeed does have her plans for you and she most certainly tests you. Remember after the first date or there abouts... betcha... betcha... shes asked you what color her eyes were? maybe what her middle name is... Betcha at some point - she makes it a point to put you around kids... just to see how you are around them.
betcha
betcha
you've heard before "what color are my eyes?"
TEST HER ASS BACK. IF SHE DONT PASS KICK HER TO THE CURB.
More at stake for her than you. Beauty... goes away w/ age. Too many rely on that and that alone. Like a gallon of milk that goes sour after it expires... shes definatly got her lil plans. And she definatly wants them executed before she turns sour. Cant sell sour milk....
turtle420
09-02-2006, 03:25 AM
:)
I can feel the eLove in here...
Not growing yet guys, but sometime soon.... soon.... and I'll get that fogger working... oh yes.
newtoitallgurrl
09-02-2006, 05:01 AM
OH MY GOSH! that was making me wanna cry, knowing that there are men out there that do care! and would be so understanding to his girl. I tell ya what your relationship with her has got to be very special, and you must love her very much to understand how she was feeling, hell I use medical cannabis, and when my hubby found out he had a hard on for a month lol. But even so if I didnt use it through my doctor, I would only wish that if I felt like she did and told him he would be like a shit and say F U! , but I can say he never tried to grow till I got medical, But like some said they would tell a girl to hit the road if she asked him to choose, but that is why they are single and alone, lonely oh yeah and hate thier life! But like my husband says MAry Jane is his only true love, she makes him happy and gives him no SHIT!, no nagging, bitching, or head aches! Much love to you and your girlfriend, hope the best for you two~!
cactusman23
09-02-2006, 05:44 PM
Its all about compromise and respect, you cant compromise with someone you dont respect. Mutual understanding and respect = compromise.
Good to see you posting again turtle.
phytokind
09-02-2006, 06:07 PM
Cannabis is getting a lot closer to being legal this year, just wait till November and see how those Colorado, Nevada, and other bills go.
IneedMONEY
09-02-2006, 07:23 PM
word
soccergal
09-02-2006, 10:05 PM
remember too that her logic center in her brain is um... little to non existant. to a female its not what they think is right or wrong, good or bad. has nothing to do with the facts, or if its even moral. to a female, emotions rule completely. from cheating to seeing someone and breaking up with the other guy to be w/ the new guy... to crying for hours because they dont understand why XX happened... Giggleing for hours over photographs to tearing up on movies. Emotions rule her being.
Sir...while I do not know what you do for a living, I find it highly unlikely that you make good money studying people. And if you do, I find you're coming to all the wrong conclusions. While men do think more logically than most women and women more emotionally than men, neither sex is completely lacking in either facet of brain function. In fact, if you were to think of it, perhaps you'd see that one reason man and woman work so well together is that they are able to compensate for one another in these regards. Men need to learn to express their emotions...women help this happen. Women need to learn to use logic, men help this come about.
That said...what it comes down to is not strictly sex/gender, but what side of the brain one is strongest in. And that varies from person to person regardless of sex.
Also, I find that while you are protesting men to be more logical, you yourself are not logical. Were you to ever be in true love, you would not choose marijuana over your woman. And I'd pity you if you did. He said she never asked him to do it...but he was perceptive to her needs and sense of security. When you're ready to take that step in you're life you'll realize how different things become. When you want to build a life with someone you need to know that both parties are going to do whatever they can to help create a secure and mutually nurturing environment for one another.
Turtle has taken the steps to do so. It was an EMOTIONALLY based logical choice. You can't have one without the other.
soccergal
09-02-2006, 10:08 PM
And I'm not saying men and women need each other. Not in the sense of relationships. I'm gay...and therefore my partner is a woman. But my closest friends are male. I know I need that opposing force in my life. I just don't need it sexually. And I find myself to be as logical if not more so than the majority of my male friends. And that is why they come to me to talk about relationship issues...because I know exactly how women function (I am one) but I know exactly why they have the fears and insecurities they do...and they are logical, men just can't see the logic behind them.
latewood
09-05-2006, 05:31 AM
I can't believe I missed this. WOW...I have communicated with turtle recently, and he is good, but I wondered what happened to him...
I feel Xtra bad because turtle is one of my favorite characters around here...hell...Mand left about the same time...Matter of fact a bunch of friends left in a swarm after OG closed down...
and Marc Benson...he was a cut-up. Remember the time he super imposed thrips and eggs in my hydroton...It was priceless.
and of course no-one was more colorful than my Buddy; Harddon
Now he didn't get along with all, but he was a cool mother Fucker once you got to know him. enough crying about it. peace Damnit!
Oh well, I know you will see this T. I'm just burned some Misty Blue for you ; My friend. Peace
turtle420
09-09-2006, 12:32 PM
newtoitallgurrl,
Thanks for the kind words. :)
See you around in the boards.
These are the friendliest people in the entire internet.
Coincidentally, they're also the most stoned. :stoned: :stoned: :stoned:
Best wishes for you and your loved ones! :dance: :thumbsup:
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phytokind,
I wish so with all my heart.
Let's concentrate on the best, all the way. :)
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IneedMONEY,
Word word. :smokin:
I also need money. :p
hehehehe
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soccergal,
Nice post!
PostS !
Both of them. :)
women... are logical, men just can't see the logic behind them.
We try.
Really.
:p
:)
Some of us try really, really a lot. :)
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My good friend LateWood,
Dude, you missed it because you were busy being a moderator (WOOOTTT!!! :D), opening up new websites/forums, grooOWWing, etc. etc etc.
The dates are indicative. This was back at the end of May.
Everything happens because of a good reason.
RE: Mand.
:(
She's gone???
Gone gone?
:(
Do you have her eMail addy?
I promised I'd contact her if I ever visit the UK.
Better to get that eMail now, than later.
Matter of fact a bunch of friends left in a swarm after OG closed down...
I think it was a testy time.
A lot of new people came, started testing the mods' patience.
I left... for a while. I'm back :)
I really have no idea why Marc Benson left.
I didn't contact with him much, because of the times we arrived.
But he was cool.
Very good advice, well written, always.
He's missed.
RE: HARDDON
No crap.
He was a very wierd character.
Very good advice.
I found it hilarious when he snapped at someone.
Best accolade I can give him???
I've got a folder of many of his grows' pictures saved up in my computer.
I've seen them tons of times.
What did he do with the company he was setting up?
I've got for him the best wishes and success.
Thanks for the Holla LateWood.
I'll try and hang-around more often in here.
Sorry, I've been lost. And found, then re-lost.
:p
Hope everybody is doing good.
Peace and love guys, peace and love,
-turtle420 :cool:
.
(PS: hello gK ;))
Abattoir Dream
09-10-2006, 06:01 PM
good for you man, but you shoulda made cannabis oil with that, you'd be loaded, then you could by your wife a diamond, (or yourself a quadbike ;p) lol
-peace-
johnnyAKABob
09-10-2006, 08:20 PM
that must of been pretty hard, but in the long run it will prob work out better for you, i know i would of done the same thing in your position if i had a choice between growing old with the woman you love and growing old alone and wondering what could have been.
there will be other grows
busteruk7
09-13-2006, 10:39 PM
nice one turtle you did the right thing for all the right reasons
you have my respect for that m8
i would do the same if it eva came up take care m8 and keep popping in and saying ello to us all :thumbsup:
cheers all :)
Budman37
09-13-2006, 11:49 PM
Well all I can say is that I think you will be regreting it in about a week or so. I'm all into marriage I am a smoker and my wife dont smoke but she still loves me.... i can understand the thing with growing its kinda scary but I dont suggest giving up things you love for any relationship its the start of sure ruin. After time when your all used to her and she you, you will regret that she made you trash those beauty's and it will haunt you forever..Everytime she does something that bug's you, you will always go back and think "I killed my Plants for her...." I suggest that you break up now start up some new buds find a girl that has similar interest and then live happily ever after....
mellogold
09-14-2006, 02:31 AM
i must say turtle i admire what you did, i am married and have a vary vary understanding wife thank god, grant it s he does not "like" what i do but she is supportive because i am in pain from 5 bad discs in my back and she knows that, its better to treat an injury with pt and natural u ses instead of chemical ones like ultram ect.
i admire you my friend and would do the same thing tomarrow if my wife asked me too
keep strong and if you ever want to just chat or anyhthing email me at
[email protected]
Garden Knowm
09-17-2006, 04:23 AM
LOVE her to the curb and GROW
iloveyou
latewood
09-17-2006, 03:37 PM
Thanks for the kind words. :)
See you around in the boards.
These are the friendliest people in the entire internet.
Coincidentally, they're also the most stoned. :stoned: :stoned: :stoned:
Best wishes for you and your loved ones! :dance: :thumbsup:
:-=-: :-=-: :-=-: :-=-: :-=-: :-=-: :-=-:
My good friend LateWood,
Dude, you missed it because you were busy being a moderator (WOOOTTT!!! :D), opening up new websites/forums, grooOWWing, etc. etc etc.
The dates are indicative. This was back at the end of May.
Everything happens because of a good reason.
RE: Mand.
:(
She's gone???
Gone gone?
:(
Do you have her eMail addy?
I promised I'd contact her if I ever visit the UK.
Better to get that eMail now, than later.
T...I will get Mand's pot.com email addy for you...hopefully, she is still reachable. lw
Thanks for the Holla LateWood.
I'll try and hang-around more often in here.
Sorry, I've been lost. And found, then re-lost.
:p
Hope everybody is doing good.
Peace and love guys, peace and love,
-turtle420 :cool:
BlueBear
09-18-2006, 02:42 AM
My wife is the greatest, when building are new double cab she stumbled back and put her thumb into a 280CFM squirrel cage fan and had to get some stiches, but never the less the box is done and I couldn't have done it without her. In fact she is always telling me if lio ever comes hear I am telling them it is all mine. I wouldn't let her take that kind of bullet, but you got to love her. Peace Turtle, I read your post back in May and respected every word.
Adieu
Adieu
qdavid
09-18-2006, 04:10 AM
You absolutly did the right thing. 19 yrs. ago I was in Korea, in the Air Force, and had been busted for possesion twice when I met my wife. She didn't like "happy smoke". So I quit. She was right. The Air Force would have burned me good if they had caught me. Since then I had three kids, got my degree, and had a reasonably happy life. But I hurt my back in the Air Force and now I'm on diability. And also she passed away last February. But I never regretted quiting pot. We had some hard times and we had our fights, but I never once resented quiting....So now I'm growing my own and I imagine after harvest I'll be stoned a lot again, but I'll never regret quiting for her.
Garden Knowm
09-18-2006, 05:58 AM
You absolutly did the right thing. 19 yrs. ago I was in Korea, in the Air Force, and had been busted for possesion twice when I met my wife. She didn't like "happy smoke". So I quit. She was right. The Air Force would have burned me good if they had caught me. Since then I had three kids, got my degree, and had a reasonably happy life. But I hurt my back in the Air Force and now I'm on diability. And also she passed away last February. But I never regretted quiting pot. We had some hard times and we had our fights, but I never once resented quiting....So now I'm growing my own and I imagine after harvest I'll be stoned a lot again, but I'll never regret quiting for her.
WOW... nice.. thanks for sharing..
iloveyou
DamianLucifer
10-20-2006, 08:49 AM
Hey Turtle you already have everything why not just grow something she cant complain about peppers, tomatos etc. Get your system worked out and when you are able to grow you will have your system ready to go:)
Garden Knowm
10-21-2006, 04:14 PM
yeah.. what satan said.. i like that!!!
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