WARNING: If You Thinking Smoking Weed Is Bad For You, STOP!!!

[beachguy in thongs]

How do you know that smoking ANYTHING is bad for you?

Is it just because?

Maybe, God made our bodies to SMOKE Cannabis.

If you have any questions, than stop smoking.

[orangeman]

Actually I doubt God intended on us smoking anything..I do believe everything thats here that is natural, such as a plant that produces some sort of fruit or food or what ever you wanna call it was meant to be consumed..I do believe it was made to eat but not smoked. Smoke period makes the lungs different and since our bodies arent technically ours (call me crazy :p) we arent suppose to purposly alter it, we're just a spirit posessing a body..yeah, blame my religion for my psycho explination :p.

[Web Smoker]

well if there was a god i believe that god didnt intend on us smoking any plant matter... gods intention was to spread the miracle plant and then eat it

[DarkFirer]

u guys dont know shit about god, he created weed, not to consume TO MOTHER FUCKING SMOKE :rasta: wtf did u fucking think

[S.T.I.D.]

^ Hell Ya

[D.Boone]

umm i dont care all i kno i god put it here for mankind to use and its here and im gonna smoke it

[alonepsycho]

God is dead.

[D.Boone]

...........

[letsdoit]

Actually I doubt God intended on us smoking anything..I do believe everything thats here that is natural, such as a plant that produces some sort of fruit or food or what ever you wanna call it was meant to be consumed..I do believe it was made to eat but not smoked. Smoke period makes the lungs different and since our bodies arent technically ours (call me crazy :p) we arent suppose to purposly alter it, we're just a spirit posessing a body..yeah, blame my religion for my psycho explination :p.



I agree, never really thought about it, but youre right.:thumbsup: ;)

[Reefer Rogue]

How do you know that smoking ANYTHING is bad for you?

Is it just because?

Maybe, God made our bodies to SMOKE Cannabis.

If you have any questions, than stop smoking.

Preach brother preach.

[mulltie]

see..weed is like alcohol it comes from a plant so we should consume it BECAUSE just:dance: :dance: :stoned:

[LIP]

Well, it was jah's decision to make the first man smoke, it ws also his dicision to make the first man smoke cannabis. It was all intended to be smoked.

Cannabis is harmless, no doubt about it.

[psychocat]

see..weed is like alcohol it comes from a plant so we should consume it BECAUSE just:dance: :dance: :stoned:

May I suggest you try eating deadly nightshade??
Just because it's natural doesn't make it safe.

The stupidity of the first post makes me wonder just how bright some folk are, tar deposits in the lungs are pretty damning evidence wouldn't you say?

Just because we enjoy something it doesn't mean we have to ignore the risks or negative aspects.

I and millions of others take risks every day, we are aware of them and do what we can to minimize them , but we no more wrap ourselves in cotton wool any more than we would go lie in the middle of a busy road .

It's all about balance.

[bobbyhardcore]

as howard marks famously said, if we aern't meant to smoke weed why have we got receptors in our brains to recieve the THC deposits to make us high? Whether god created weed or not for us to smoke is a debate that shud be argued about whether god is real or not. But thatll take to long. Cannabis is on our planet, we have receptors in our brains that recieve the THC, so cannabis is there to be smoked, eaten, watever otherwise we r not using our bodies to their full potential. Scientists say we only use one side of our brain, in 100 years we may use both sides, just cos it hasnt been proven yet doesn't mean it cant happen, just will take time, WEED IS FOR US ALL!!! im so cained haha. Soz for the elongated post

cheers

bob

[shoi]

ya taking a shower can kill you
and going down the stairs
and even eating




think about it :rasta:

[beachguy in thongs]

umm i dont care all i kno i god put it here for mankind to use and its here and im gonna smoke it

That's perfect for a Senior Quote.

[letsdoit]

That's perfect for a Senior Quote.


good one;) i think i'll start a senior quote thread..

[psychocat]

ya taking a shower can kill you
and going down the stairs
and even eating




think about it :rasta:

Welcome to the world of health and safety.


http://www.timesonline.co.uk/article/0,,3-1139989_1,00.html

Surely one of the things about eating fugu is the danger ??

Who the fuck wants to live forever anyway??

[flamingskullballs]

im nbot gunna lie away, pot is probably bad for me in some ways, and kind of smoke would be...but because im not gunnna lie, i will not hide its benifits

[Az.]

but did he intend for us to use fire to cook all this?
or are we supposed to eat everything raw?

because if so....there would be no effect....

[beachguy in thongs]

Well most of it's benefits are for people that take chemo, have aids, ect.
The only benefit I get is being stoned off my ass.

Everyone gets the benefits from their cannabinoid receptors.

Everyone gets a 4,000% boost in melatonin levels.

[psychocat]

Like I said, he gave us free will. God gave us the ability to think for ourselves, to plan, to create, to imagine.


You are assuming that I believe in God but since I don't any argument that "God gave it to us so therefore" is really wasted on me.
All things have a balance of good and bad , absolutely nothing is all good or all bad , even toxins in the right dosage can be benificial.

[Nylo]

While I agree with the notion that it was put here for a reason (nature doesn't make mistakes) any politician with a stick up his/her ass will shut that argument down with John Locke's idea that people give up some birth-given rights in exchange to further the security of government among men.

As for psychoCat, I believe there's a natural balance as well. But I think there's a definite line between good and bad as far as mankind is concerned. But I can't say the same with everything else in nature.

'cept maybe carnivorous dinosaurs. :D

[beachguy in thongs]

'cept maybe carnivorous dinosaurs. :D

Are you saying that carnivorous dinosaurs didn't smoke pot?

[zeldag]

rite i stopped weed and fags after being an "exesive" smoker of both for ower a couple of years (i mean everyday atl east one spiff and around 10-20 fags) than i stopped aboput a cuple of weeks ago but now i seem to get pains in chest and spit brown stuff (also had a chest infection but that should be gone and when had that i spat green stuff) anyone know if its related?:thumbsup: thanks doc...

[beachguy in thongs]

This is interesting:

A group of regular marijuana smokers was given expired air carbon monoxide (CO) tests before and after smoking low-dose, high-dose, and placebo marijuana cigarettes. Expired air CO doubled following smoking. There were no significant differences in CO levels in the different dose categories. Studies of the effects of marijuana on the body should attempt to separate effects of the drug from the effects that are secondary to the method of intake.


Bronchial challenge with histamine was used to assess bronchial reactivity in asymptomatic individuals who were long-term social smokers of marijuana. Their reactivity was compared to that of nonsmokers and asthmatics. Spirometry results were normal in the marijuana users. There was no significant difference in bronchial reactivity between marijuana smokers and nonsmoking controls, whereas the asthmatics demonstrated the expected hyperreactivity. These observations suggest that customary social use of marijuana may not produce abnormalities in airway function detectable by spirometry or bronchoprovocation.


Because these effects were transient and remained within the range of reported normal values, these data indicate that long-term, experimental exposure to MJ smoke is feasible and does not compromise the general health of the rhesus monkey.


However, tobacco smoking was associated with both significantly higher levels of superoxide anion release by pulmonary alveolar macrophages and significant abnormalities of small airway function and alveolar diffusing capacity. Based on the results of this study, pulmonary alveolar macrophages of marijuana-only smokers do not produce increased amounts of oxidants when compared to macrophages of non-smoking subjects. This observation may account for the absence of abnormalities in small airway function and alveolar diffusing capacity in marijuana-only smokers, in contrast to the presence of such findings in smokers of tobacco, regardless of marijuana use.


We conclude that smoking marijuana (13 to 27 mg THC) has no acute effect on central or peripheral ventilatory drive or metabolic rate in habitual marijuana smokers.


Whereas regular smoking of tobacco alone or with other substances increases alveolar epithelial permeability, habitual smoking of cocaine and/or marijuana has no measurable effect on alveolar permeability in the absence of tobacco nor any additive effect to that of tobacco alone.


We conclude that regular tobacco, but not marijuana, smoking is associated with greater annual rates of decline in lung function than is nonsmoking.

http://www.ukcia.org/research/medline/1.htm

[zeldag]

Bloody hell thanks mate but i want to double check because there is quite a lot of scientific stuff there.

1.Smoking Pure MJ doesnt really affect your lungs in a bad way too much
2.Smoking Tobacco does
3.Stoping smoking MJ doesnt
4. and i aint usre about stopping fags
5 can soemoen just quickly sum it all up by saying hwether i am damaging my health by smoking marijuana/tobbaco(in on joint) and cigarretes juts like that (one day i smoke meself crazy the next i didnt smoke and havnt since...) i eman alot of my friends are saying that not giving ym body those chemicals thta it ws so used to so suddenly should be damaging... (but what do they know?) lol thanks all soryr if this seems like hte same question as above but i feel its alittle bit different, and sorry if its the wrong topic i just didnt want to start a new one cos it seemed a bit pointless.
thanks.

[beachguy in thongs]

We determined marijuana use for seventy 17- to 20-year-olds through self-reporting and urinalysis. IQ difference scores were calculated by subtracting each person's IQ score at 9â??12 years (before initiation of drug use) from his or her score at 17â??20 years.

We then compared the difference in IQ scores of current heavy users (at least 5 joints per week), current light users (less than 5 joints per week), former users (who had not smoked regularly for at least 3 months) and non-users (who never smoked more than once per week and no smoking in the past two weeks).

Results: Current marijuana use was significantly correlated (p < 0.05) in a dose- related fashion with a decline in IQ over the ages studied. The comparison of the IQ difference scores showed an average decrease of 4.1 points in current heavy users (p < 0.05) compared to gains in IQ points for light current users (5.8), former users (3.5) and non-users (2.6).

http://www.cmaj.ca/cgi/content/abstract/166/7/887

[FindingTim]

So here are my thoughts on marijuana:

I do not necessarily believe in God, but I do believe that there is a higher power simply due to the fact that there are countless miracles in this world. As with natural tobacco (not cigs), I believe that marijuana is meant to be used, whether by eating or smoking. However, I believe that excessive use causes health problems and is natures way of saying, "enjoy me, but don't abuse me." The way marijuana makes the mind expand and lets us appreciate life is so phenomenal that I simply cannot believe that it was not meant to be consumed.

[minnesota man]

I agree.
I think psychoactive plants had a huge impact on people when they first started getting high. I think it is what kicked off classes and societies.

[beachguy in thongs]

However, I believe that excessive use causes health problems and is natures way of saying, "enjoy me, but don't abuse me." The way marijuana makes the mind expand and lets us appreciate life is so phenomenal that I simply cannot believe that it was not meant to be consumed.

Heavy use has been shown to affect those under twenty years of age. However, these studies may change your mind as to whether it harms adults, or not.

Lack of hippocampal volume change in long-term heavy cannabis users.
http://marijuana.researchtoday.net/archive/2/4/358.htm

We used magnetic resonance imaging to investigate these effects in a group of 22 older, long-term cannabis users (reporting a mean [SD] of 20,100 [13,900] lifetime episodes of smoking) and 26 comparison subjects with no history of cannabis abuse or dependence. When compared to control subjects, smokers displayed no significant adjusted differences in volumes of gray matter, white matter, cerebrospinal fluid, or left and right hippocampus.

Minimal Long-term Effects Of Marijuana Use Found In Central Nervous System By UCSD Researchers
http://www.sciencedaily.com/releases/2003/06/030630112652.htm

In addition, Grant said that heavy marijuana users often abuse other drugs, such as alcohol and amphetamines, which also might have long-term neurological effects. This raises the question of the extent to which the other drugs contributed to the minimal problems found in learning and forgetting in the marijuana users.

Non-acute (residual) neurocognitive effects of cannabis
use: A meta-analytic study
http://www.hnrc.ucsd.edu/publications_pdf/348art2003.pdf

The small magnitude of effect sizes from observations of chronic users of cannabis suggests that cannabis compounds, if found to have therapeutic value, should have a good margin of safety from a neurocognitive
standpoint under the more limited conditions of exposure that would likely obtain in a medical setting.

Neuropsychological consequences of regular marijuana use: a twin study
http://journals.cambridge.org/action/displayAbstract?fromPage=online&aid=255433

Conclusions. Out of the numerous measures that were administered, only one significant difference was noted between marijuana-using twins and their non-using co-twins on cognitive functioning. The results indicate an absence of marked long-term residual effects of marijuana use on cognitive abilities.

Chronic Cannabis Use
in the Compassionate Investigational
New Drug Program:
An Examination of Benefits
and Adverse Effects
of Legal Clinical Cannabis
http://www.medicalcannabis.com/PDF/Chronic_Cannabis.pdf


CONCLUSIONS AND RECOMMENDATIONS
1. Cannabis smoking, even of a crude, low-grade product, provides
effective symptomatic relief of pain, muscle spasms, and intraocular
pressure elevations in selected patients failing other modes
of treatment.
2. These clinical cannabis patients are able to reduce or eliminate
other prescription medicines and their accompanying side effects.
3. Clinical cannabis provides an improved quality of life in these patients.
4. The side effect profile of NIDA cannabis in chronic usage suggests
some mild pulmonary risk.
5. No malignant deterioration has been observed.
6. No consistent or attributable neuropsychological or neurological
deterioration has been observed.
7. No endocrine, hematological or immunological sequelae have
been observed.
Russo et al.
8. Improvements in a clinical cannabis program would include a
ready and consistent supply of sterilized, potent, organically grown
unfertilized female flowering top material, thoroughly cleaned of
extraneous inert fibrous matter.
9. It is the authorsâ?? opinion that the Compassionate IND program
should be reopened and extended to other patients in need of clinical
cannabis.
10. Failing that, local, state and federal laws might be amended to
provide regulated and monitored clinical cannabis to suitable candidates.