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Euphoric
05-26-2006, 11:21 AM
There is no American government

* Our elected government is a sham. Elections are manipulated to put key puppets into office, and polls are rigged to sway mass opinion. Politicans are blackmailed or bribed into serving the New World Order. Blackmail comes via past activities they may have been tempted into partaking, or else such politicans have been bribed with luxuries and promises of further power, privilege, and survival in times to come.

* The majority of those who become politicans are corrupt. It takes psychopathic ruthlessness to make it to the top of politics, and because of networking and other factors, only those selected by the shadow government ultimately make it to the top. There are countless ways of getting rid of dissenters, from assassination to discrediting to blackmail.

*Tricks used by world manipulators include hegelian dialectics and false dichotomies. Hegelian dialectics is better known as problem-reaction-solution, whereby a problem is created to push people into accepting a rigged solution. Incidents such as the Oklahoma City bombing, Columbine massacre, and 9/11 attacks were engineered by the shadow government to justify the further removal of freedoms from the populace to ??keep them safe.? Ultimately, liberty traded for security leads to slavery.

* False dichotomies are illusory choices, options that all lead to the same outcome. The dichotomies of ??liberal vs conservative? and ??secular vs religious? are false dichotomies because each side leads to the same end result of ignorance and imbalance. The political system relies on the illusion of two party choice which makes people think they??re living in a democracy.
There is no democracy because mass opinion is swayed through media manipulation and rigged polls, and there is no republic because the electoral college consists of bought members who obey the shadow government. The most willing slaves are those who think they are free.

* By laws not being enforced, people demand more laws to solve perceived problems. These laws then pile up until one day all can be enforced at once and create a legal form of totalitarianism.


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graymatter
05-26-2006, 01:15 PM
That's a mightly problem you present... got any ideas for a solution?

Bong30
05-26-2006, 03:04 PM
Paper trail

Gumby
05-26-2006, 05:18 PM
minimize government

http://www.self-gov.org/quiz.html

Psycho4Bud
05-26-2006, 05:41 PM
minimize government

http://www.self-gov.org/quiz.html

Thats a good quiz.....it has me a little to the right of Libertarian. Ever see "Head of State"? To bad something like that couldn't happen in real life!

Have a good one!:thumbsup:

Shelbay
05-26-2006, 05:50 PM
I just think each State should govern itself..why is what is good for one state pushed on other states..how can someone but local government really know what is in the best interest of their State unless they actually live it every day? Yes I do support my Country..America..I totally support Americans fighting far from home even if they did make the choice to go..I still support them..I even respect our President because of key issues that he stands on that I do agree with and because after all..every leader of every Country has made mistakes..just don't hear about those right..and saying that I hope and pray that our right and liberties will not be further taken away or infringed on because of terrorists that would love to see ALL Americans dead..the lesser of two evils?? I take America and President Bush anyday compared to what else is out there...who sang that song with "Times are a changin? And one called winds of change? Where is this all going to go? I may be confusing on this but it does sometimes cross my mind that maybe a century from now..will people still be here..and what will be the facts on what is going on now..If people could put a NEW candidate into office to represent what half of this country is saying needs to be faced..who would it be? Not Republican or Democrat..who would be the best person for the peoples interests?

Shelbay
05-26-2006, 05:52 PM
Thats a good quiz.....it has me a little to the right of Libertarian. Ever see "Head of State"? To bad something like that couldn't happen in real life!

Have a good one!:thumbsup:
So its safe to use that link Psycho? And what is little to the right Libertarian?

Gumby
05-26-2006, 05:58 PM
there is a ten question test on that page that 'ranks' what party you fit under...

it's safe...

Bullworth is another good movie.. would be good to have someone kinda like that in office... someone who just talks and doesn't care about how many votes they are going to lose because of what they say...

by the way, psycho is more Liberal that Conservative... I saw his test the last time... :) I knew it all along...

Myth1184
05-26-2006, 11:15 PM
Its hilarious seeing Democrats still saying the Elections are Rigged...and that everyone serves the New World Order....you guys watched Wrestling too much as a kid.

graymatter
05-27-2006, 12:00 AM
Its hilarious seeing Democrats still saying the Elections are Rigged...and that everyone serves the New World Order....you guys watched Wrestling too much as a kid.

Sitting Replublicans, primarily, are the whimps that send the all volunteer force to do their bidding.

Here's one solution: Bring back the draft! :mad: You'll see congress think twice about giving blank checks to the AWOL chicken hawk (aka GW) who ducked out of confronting the moral and practical failure of a war he was able to fight in... i.e., Vietnam.

BTW I'll concede L.B.J and the Gulf of Tonkin. He and the congress were as bad as what we have now...:o

Shelbay
05-27-2006, 05:17 AM
Says I am Libertarian..no left or right though..just at the top of that triangle thing and big red letters saying I am a Libertarian..well I have my label now.:)

Gumby
05-27-2006, 06:49 PM
Its hilarious seeing Democrats still saying the Elections are Rigged...and that everyone serves the New World Order....you guys watched Wrestling too much as a kid.

not wrestling, but show a litlle on election hacking...

http://filmstripinternational.com/filmstrips.php?filmstrip=election

Nylo
05-28-2006, 03:40 AM
That's a mightly problem you present... got any ideas for a solution?

Of course not. That would make him one of the ten liberals on the planet that actually think instead of bitch.

WalkaWalka
05-29-2006, 04:15 AM
I have a solution start buying guns, ammo , and survival supplies. Even if you don't have to use them , it makes for an interesting hobby. I figure they will take over for a couple of years then disentegrate.

Don't call me a liberal I do not accept those kinds of lables they make no difference I pick what makes the best sense for a higher standard of living.

krustythfreakinclown
05-29-2006, 05:32 AM
Wow.

Euphoric summed it all up perfectly.

Too bad most people in the world disregard such truths.

lateralus
05-29-2006, 02:57 PM
Guess I'm Libertarian.

graymatter
05-30-2006, 03:05 AM
Wow.

Euphoric summed it all up perfectly.

Too bad most people in the world disregard such truths.

No argument with the sentiment; it's brilliant... But a revolution needs specifics... sorry, that's the pragmatist in me.

GreenKing11
05-30-2006, 10:55 AM
Its hilarious seeing Democrats still saying the Elections are Rigged...and that everyone serves the New World Order....you guys watched Wrestling too much as a kid.

Yeah, it's those damned Democrats.

The Republicans control the Executive Branch, the Senate, and the Congress, but I still haven't seen any oil drilling in Alaska. Those damned environmentalists 'miracalously' stopped it again!

I think every clear thinking person here took that quiz and was a libertarian. You fucking idiot.