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Marlboroman
05-23-2006, 05:02 PM
Its been a while since ive posted here.

But id like to share some things ive come across lately.
If you dont bother to view the material then dont post, to simply dismiss information before seeing it, is the tell-tale sighn of an ignorant person.

heres a video on google about HOW the WTC was brought down.

http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=1951610169657809939

Heres a video on google about HOW, WHO, and WHY the WTC was brought down.


http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=-8260059923762628848&q=loose+change+2nd+edition

Heres a video on WATER USED AS FUEL.

http://www.wimp.com/fuelwater/

Marlboroman
05-23-2006, 05:36 PM
I guess i should have given it a snappier title lol

Shelbay
05-23-2006, 05:40 PM
I would have posted but you said not to post if we didn't VIEW your links..I don't click links anymore..might have been interesting..and I sure didn't want to give off any "signs" of being ignorant..I usually warn in advance when I am ignorant on a subject lol.

Marlboroman
05-23-2006, 05:41 PM
I would have posted but you said not to post if we didn't VIEW your links..I don't click links anymore..might have been interesting..and I sure didn't want to give off any "signs" of being ignorant..I usually warn in advance when I am ignorant on a subject lol.


Well, I use the term more as ignore-ant, as in ignoreing information, as oppossed to not takeing in information.

Anyway the 2 are on Google, look up loose change 2nd edition and 9/11 revisited, the third is short and amzeing. you might want to actually check that one out.

Bong30
05-23-2006, 06:05 PM
Its been a while since ive posted here.

But id like to share some things ive come across lately.
If you dont bother to view the material then dont post, to simply dismiss information before seeing it, is the tell-tale sighn of an ignorant person.

heres a video on google about HOW the WTC was brought down.

http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=1951610169657809939

Heres a video on google about HOW, WHO, and WHY the WTC was brought down.


http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=-8260059923762628848&q=loose+change+2nd+edition

Heres a video on WATER USED AS FUEL.

http://www.wimp.com/fuelwater/

you are so ignorant that you dont even know the people have posted these links at NAUSIUM. Shit people have those links in there sigs......

while you were spanking your monkey we debated those clips for ever

GET WITH IT.......................NEXT

Marlboroman
05-23-2006, 06:13 PM
you are so ignorant that you dont even know the people have posted these links at NAUSIUM. Shit people have those links in there sigs......

while you were spanking your monkey we debated those clips for ever

GET WITH IT.......................NEXT


Nice personal attack there Bong.

ill have ya know ive been spanking my monkey for longer than youve been alive judgeing by your mannerism.

If ya care to read it says ive been away, and the third clip, haveing nothing to do with 9/11 im not so sure even needs debate.

Bong30
05-23-2006, 06:19 PM
so assuming you started spanking your monkey at 15 im 35.. so you are 50

hows my math gramps

Marlboroman
05-23-2006, 06:21 PM
so assuming you started spanking your monkey at 15 im 35.. so you are 50

hows my math gramps

I guess the stats are correct, maybe 30 is the new 20.

Bong30
05-23-2006, 06:28 PM
Well, I use the term more as ignore-ant, as in ignoreing information, as oppossed to not takeing in information.

Anyway the 2 are on Google, look up loose change 2nd edition and 9/11 revisited, the third is short and amzeing. you might want to actually check that one out.

i post that, i have seen those vids and i listen to ALEX JONES live on the radio on his short wave radio show, and on coast to coast am.......Maybe its you that needs more information MM... huh ever think of that?

i dont have to stare at shit to remember it is SHIT........

Marlboroman
05-23-2006, 07:23 PM
i post that, i have seen those vids and i listen to ALEX JONES live on the radio on his short wave radio show, and on coast to coast am.......Maybe its you that needs more information MM... huh ever think of that?

i dont have to stare at shit to remember it is SHIT........

Wow you really think im against you dont ya?

Your just one more that will spin wheels because you have no where to focus your angst.

So my purpose of posting that was to what? be called names and told to catch up?

you really need to think before you post and try to figure out who is on what side before you start to insult.

And I always need more information, im not the one fighting it. By the looks of it you are tho.

And really, why insult me to begin with?, you just trying to make yourself feel important or something?

Just looking for someone you think you can kick around to show how smart you are?

Well, whatever the reason, your comeing off as being an asshat.

Altho im sure your probably a decent person, and again, the third video has nothing to do with 9/11 or Alex Jones.

Bong30
05-23-2006, 07:53 PM
i will go watch the third vid now

Bong30
05-23-2006, 08:00 PM
That is great... we need stuff like that today.

here is some more info on it. It still used electricity though (i believe) witch come from fossil fuel. Great stuff though...

2.2.2.1. Electrolysis of water
High/low heating values and efficiency
The heating value, i.e. the amount of heat energy that can be derived from a fuel by burning it, is rated with a high and a low value. The high value denotes the total energy of the fuel, while the low value takes into consideration that the resulting product gas can be condensed into water, subtracting this condensation energy (latent heat) component. When calculating the efficiency in a fuel cell, the low heating value is normally used, i.e.: electrical energy produced / low heating factor * 100%. In the electrolysis process, the high heating value is usually used.



Water electrolysis is splitting water into hydrogen and oxygen. An electrolyser is a device for electrolysis. Water is subjected to electrical power and the result is hydrogen and oxygen.

2H2O + energy -> 2H2 + O2

This is the opposite reaction of what happens in a fuel cell (see 2.3.1). It is common to classify electrolysers according to the electrolyte it uses. Several cells are connected to achieve the desired capacity, just as with fuel cells. Some common electrolysers are as follows:


Two atmospheric electrolysers, each at 200 Nm3/h
(photo: Norsk Hydro)

Norsk Hydro




Alkaline electrolysers
In alkaline electrolysers a liquid electrolyte is used ?? typically a 25% potassium hydroxide solution.
Hydrogen production using alkaline electrolysers is long-established in Norway. At Norsk Hydro, industrial water electrolysis of hydrogen for the production of ammonia was carried out from 1928 to 1988.

Norsk Hydro Electrolysers (NHE) is today a leading producer of alkaline electrolysers. Some of NHE??s electrolysers have an efficiency of over 80% (high heating value). Efficiency is an important factor in electrolysis because the use of energy (~4.5 kWh/NM3H2) makes up a significant portion of the costs at an electrolysis plant. (How much will depend on the cost of the electricity. NHE estimates approximately 2/3 of operating expenses as a rule of thumb.) Electrolysers are most effective when running on a low production rate, due to low current density. Optimum economy of operation will depend both on current density, cost of production materials and the demands for H2 production.

NHE and Gesellschaft für Hochleistungwasserelektrolyseure (GHW) have developed a compact electrolysis system that can produce hydrogen equivalent to the energy supply of a standard gasoline station. These electrolysers operate under pressure, and the product is hydrogen under moderate pressure (30 bar).

Another leading manufacturer of electrolysers, Stuart Energy, has also made a small prototype of a home garage electrolyser with compressor and everything else inside a small gray box.



Polymer electrolyte membrane (PEM) electrolysers
Another type of electrolyser utilises polymer membranes as electrolytes (PEM). Much of the heavy technological development which is currently going on in PEM fuel cells can be transferred to the electrolysers, which will probably benefit from the mass production of PEM fuel cells.

Several PEM electrolysers are already being sold today, even though this is relatively new technology compared to alkaline electrolysers. Efficiency factors for PEM electrolysers up to 94% are predicted, but this is only theoretical at this time. Today, the efficiency factors for PEM electrolysers are lower than for the best alkaline electrolysers. PEM electrolysers function very well with renewable energy systems where the amount of electricity varies greatly. Generally speaking, PEM electrolysers are best suited for small plants, especially plants with varying output, while alkaline electrolysers are clearly an advantage in larger systems which are connected to the power grid.



Steam electrolysers
A third type of electrolysers is the so-called steam electrolysers. These use a ceramic ion-conducting electrolyte. Steam electrolysers can reach a very high efficiency factor, but are currently not commercially feasible.[NYTEK 2000] A tubular steam electrolyser, which should also be able to be run in a fuel cell stack (fuel cells connected in a series), are under development at Lawrence Livermore National Laboratory. Another type of steam electrolyser is the German ??Hot Elly?; this system can reach an efficiency of 92%. [NREL 2000]

Shelbay
05-23-2006, 08:09 PM
Well, I use the term more as ignore-ant, as in ignoreing information, as oppossed to not takeing in information.

Anyway the 2 are on Google, look up loose change 2nd edition and 9/11 revisited, the third is short and amzeing. you might want to actually check that one out.
Thanks for the explanation..and I will view on Google..especially the thrid one since Bong posted on it..I am interested.

skarz
05-23-2006, 09:42 PM
Loose Change covers almost every major point showing how set-up everything was that day. If it WASN'T set up... then whats the explanation for all the explosions occuring as the building is falling down? For those of you who don't know what I'm talking about, you can see sections literally explode out in plumes below where the building is actually falling.

pisshead
05-23-2006, 09:45 PM
and building 7 magically, a modern reinforced steel building, collapses under every hallmark of a controlled demolition on accident that day because of some fires.

skarz
05-23-2006, 10:04 PM
Yea, building 7 is actually the most important part of that whole attack... but no one knows about it. How does "debris" from the towers which are hundreds of yards away start fires inside building 7 and then it collapses perfectly in on itself... i smell something fishy.

Marlboroman
05-23-2006, 11:16 PM
and building 7 magically, a modern reinforced steel building, collapses under every hallmark of a controlled demolition on accident that day because of some fires.

I will say this about building 7 tho, I have a close friend that was there when building 7 fell, I spoke with him after seeing this video.

He tells me that he didnt hear anything, no explosions, no flashes, just the building falling.

This guy is no expert on demolition mind you, but he has been in construction since the age of 15, allot like myself.

I would hate to think that he would ignore such things, seeing as i was with him in mid town when the towers fell, he went down there to see if he could help.

On a side note I have another good friend that was working very close to them when this all happened, he tells me that he was on site trying to help people when he was ordered away by men, he never said how they were dressed, but he did say that if he didnt leave, he believed they would have shot him.

Gumby
05-24-2006, 12:31 AM
I will say this about building 7 tho, I have a close friend that was there when building 7 fell, I spoke with him after seeing this video.

He tells me that he didnt hear anything, no explosions, no flashes, just the building falling.
The first clip in my sig shows build 7 falling a little better and explains it's collapse a bit... by the way ole' Larry alright is on tape saying they 'pulled it'...
This guy is no expert on demolition mind you, but he has been in construction since the age of 15, allot like myself.

I would hate to think that he would ignore such things, seeing as i was with him in mid town when the towers fell, he went down there to see if he could help.

On a side note I have another good friend that was working very close to them when this all happened, he tells me that he was on site trying to help people when he was ordered away by men, he never said how they were dressed, but he did say that if he didnt leave, he believed they would have shot him.
and bong is a douche... just ignore him... offer him the million dollars that's in my sig as well... it shuts him up pretty fast... or at least that's when he goes back to attacking you and not saying anything about the topic of the post...

skarz
05-24-2006, 01:49 AM
If you watch the video of building 7 collapsing in slow motion the corners blow out one by one from top too bottom. It's not "concrete" evidence but it's pretty damn suspicious. Also, when buildings are set up for demolition, they don't go BOOOOM and explode, the detonations are very muffled and theres an extremely brief flash, then it starts falling in on itself.