Let's come out of the closet!

[horror business]

The government needs us. Think about it. They think they are all high and mighty. They are starting to act more and more like dictators, feeding us this anti-drug propaganda. They are giving us biased facts. No, in fact they aren't even giving us facts: They are giving us their opinions and feeding us their lies.

A new anti-drug commercial airing in the U.S. that I'm sure most of you are familiar of, is really starting to piss me off. Two girls are sitting on two different couches in the living room. A guy walks in and asks one of the girls "What's wrong with her?" or something along the lines of that while the camera points to the other girl, who is appears to be deflated, while she's just staring into space. The main girl resonds with something along the lines of "Oh... that's how she is now, after she started smoking pot... Now, this is all we do; just sit around."

Now, if that isn't propaganda, then I don't know what is. This is now how this country was founded. We are supposed to be free. It's supposed to be a democracy. What the people want...

But think about this: Even though the government (is supposed to) make decisions based on what the people want, that's all they do, is make, and enforce laws. Who does the actual WORK for the country? The people. A huge majority of people smoke pot. Lawyers, judges, firefighters, doctors, therapists, officers of the law, veterinarians, workers for the red cross, soldiers, farmers, chefs, the youth of america, college students, athletes, musicians, artists, low class, middle class, high class. All of those people make up a larger percent of the country than the government does.

Alot of people are afraid to admit they smoke marijuana, because of their profession, and how the would be viewed. If we all go on strike, and protest, it would surprise the majority of the public. Even the conservatives would be shocked at the variety of people that smoke pot. They will realise they were being lied to by the government that only losers smoke pot. If everyone admit it, and we got a HUGE protest going, or have large protests in every major city in every state, the statistics of everyone that smokes pot would be impossible to deny. The government would be embarassed. Really, they should have no choice but to legalise it, because that's what the people want, and hey, that's what this country was founded on, but sadly that's not how it is anymore. We are being lied to, that this is the land of the free and the home of the brave. All of us are cowards to admit it, but we're not to blame. We're just terrified of what the government would do to us. And we're certainly not free, otherwise we wouldn't be persecuted for marijuana. See, we the people outnumber the government. Once we all admit we smoke, and all join together once and for all, we will see the TRUTH behind the government. We'll see who's really the "bad guy" country. They'd either grant us our desire, and legalise marijuana, or we will see that they are truly and evil country, because more than likely they'd hose us all down on the streets, do major busts, persecute us worse. Even if they don't do those horrible things, which they've done before, even by not legalising it after the world sees how many people smoke and want it legalised, that would piss everyone off, even non smokers, because it would show that this isn't a democracy. Everyone would be against the government. Then, there might be a new war. The people of the US against the US government, or, we'd just overthrow the government. We outnumber them, do we really want to live under dictatorship? Just something for us all to think about... but if you guys like my idea, we need to gather everyone we know, and plan this, to make it perfect, and have the largest gathering of people. Larger than woodstock, larger than new years on time square... we need everyone to get up, stand up, stand up for OUR RIGHTS. We will need media attention. We need to get the attention of EVERYONE, then the government can't deny what's happening. It will be their ultimatum. This is really what we need to do.

[Pride]

I dunno man it's hard shit.
Look at all the crazy shit Russia did to overthrow their government back then. Can WE do that?!

And if we have a walk the media is gonna portray us like shit like that canadian one where they just take clips of people like the biker who couldn't even say why he's there.

calling everything drugs and dope

a scene like "this one person is really into the march!" *kid walks to camera and goes: "IM STOOOOONED!" * (i gotta admit, even i cracked up to that)

If I were in that march, I wouldn't wanna be portrayed by the media like THAT!

yea im weak.

But damn, the media was mean.


EDIT: http://youtube.com/watch?v=KORIijLlGlM&search=marijuana
Yeah here it is.

[Pepper]

Cyberspace offers new turf for gangs

Police are mining Internet sites for information on local groups taking their message online

With a few clicks on his laptop, Naperville Detective Rich Wistocki is staring at a St. Charles man who appears to be smoking marijuana.

He clicks again, and there's another picture of the 22-year-old, nearly hidden under a large pile of what looks to be bags of marijuana leaves.

"Look at this. How stupid is this?" Wistocki says as he prints out the photo and saves a "screen grab" to his computer. "These guys put this out there, thinking that nobody's watching. That it's only their friends, but they are wrong."

Wistocki, who works in his department's Internet crimes unit, has seen hundreds of photographs like these: Guys pointing guns, spraying graffiti, flashing gang signs or handfuls of money. Law enforcement officials say it's all part of the growing trend of gangs pushing thug life on the Internet.

A search for gang sites will turn up links to anti-gang sites started by law enforcement or anti-crime organizations. Other sites claim to be academic, presenting the real story behind Chicago's gangs.

The more you click, however, the more likely the site you enter belongs to someone purporting to be a gang member. And it's likely a police officer is looking at it too.

West Chicago Police Cmdr. Bruce Malkin teaches about gangs around the country and surfs the Internet searching for gang sites almost daily. He keeps a cache of Web sites, though he discourages the public from visiting them. He thinks some gangs use devices called "cookies" on their sites to track down site visitors' personal information. (Malkin and other officers use Internet addresses that bounce trackers to bogus names.)

Malkin, like several of the detectives interviewed, said most of what he finds he uses to educate himself about gangs in his area.

Although a lot of the chatter is cryptic, Malkin said that with close monitoring and gang know-how, police can learn a lot.

"You'd be surprised the amount of information they'll put out on the Web," Malkin said.

On a recent foray, Malkin entered a site dedicated to the 18th Street Gang, a California group that claims to have members in several Illinois towns, including West Chicago.

Midway down the page, the site declares that its pictures and links are copyrighted. It features a warning to law enforcement not to click onto linked pages, complete with the picture of a pig in a large red circle with a slash through it.

The warning makes Malkin chuckle.

"Oh, yeah, like that's going to stop me from looking," he says as he continues clicking.

Many of the gang sites, like this one, have pictures of alleged gang members, some covering their faces with bandanas or sunglasses and flashing gang signs or guns. Some sites detail a gang's history and boundaries and feature pictures of graffiti with which members have tagged their turf. The sites honor dead gang members with guest books and music and vow vengeance against the killers. Many also feature chat rooms and bulletin boards--some password protected, others not--where postings range from favorite albums to vulgarity-laden proclamations of gang dominance or rival gang bashing, known as "netbanging."

One site features a "shout out" to the Latin Kings and reminds members that they have to keep the gang's "manifesto" and "constitution" in their minds.

So why are the sites out there? Some police officers say they think the sites are created just to glorify their creators. Others say the sites could be used to advertise drug dealing or to send messages to other gang members. Some think it's a modern-day form of recruitment, akin to spraying graffiti around a neighborhood.

"It's advertising, basically," said Aurora Police Cmdr. Mike Langston, who has been investigating gangs with the department for the last 20 years. He first noticed the gang sites a few years ago. "The more they can make that life exciting and enticing to somebody, the more likely they are to get people to want to be a part of it."

Mike Scott, who asked to be identified by the pen name he used to write a book on gang life called "Lords of Lawndale," co-founded a Web site dedicated to the now-defunct Chicago gang, the Gaylords.

A member during the 1980s and '90s now living in Elmhurst, Scott started the Web site to publish his perspective on a way of life that he says youths turn to, not by choice, but to protect their neighborhoods and themselves. The site also gives former gang members a place to talk about their lives and their pasts.

"I guess it's a survivors' Web site. The guys who didn't wind up in prison or who are not dead, they're coming forward and talking now," he said. "It's not just therapy for me. It's therapy for a lot of people."

Although his site claims not to promote gangs, Scott said he gets e-mail from teens asking for advice on how they can start their own gangs. He doesn't encourage them.

"I don't want to bring any young kids into it," he said. "Every Gaylord who's around my age, we all have children now. We wouldn't bring them in, so why would you want to bring someone else in?"

Police admit that, by itself, material gleaned from the sites is of limited value. Although many departments said they monitor the sites for information, they can't rely on them for evidence, Malkin said.

"If I get a name from our gang officers, I'll go online and see what I can find out," said Wistocki, who works closely with Naperville's gangs unit. "But you're not going to get a case just off the Internet. This just helps us to maybe link some people to other people, get information about who they hang with, where they go."

Langston said Internet gang chatter has helped his officers figure out potential hotspots. If an investigator sees a post about a rift between gangs, police will keep an eye out for problems on the street, he said.

Some officers say they have started creating fake profiles on the sites, going undercover online in an attempt to get more details about the gangs' activities.

All of the detectives interviewed, however, declined to give detailed information about their tactics, saying they know that gang members are watching their moves too.

Still, some investigators think many of the sites and many posters could just be posers.

Chicago police say the gang members they're after aren't posting photographs of themselves on the Web.

"The leaders, the movers and shakers, they're certainly not sitting at home behind a computer," said Cmdr. David Sobczyk of the Chicago Police Department Deployment Center. "These are people who are in it for the money. They're beyond some sort of virtual spray-painting."

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[Don Don]

Sounds like some v for vandetta type shit needs to go down to make the facist goverment see "the light"

[Tom Swierzbinski]

Why do you think I put my real name on here and am carrying on posting my plants (well, when I get the cam fixed this weekend :o ). Ill put pics up of the White Rhino Im growing.
I dont care if cops are watching this - we need to speak out in our droves, and we need to do it soon. We wont just be changing peoples views on marijuana, nearly all of us are against the Iraq War and believe George Bush is... well... a twat :p . Same as Tony Blair, they need to be wiped off the face of the earth. People that dangerous CANNOT be allowed to live - its like Hitler.
Im hoping that others will join and start to 'come out of the closet' as you put it Horror.

:thumbsup:

[Tom Swierzbinski]

Oh, I like the V for Vendetta idea (however unlikely it is). But instead of wearing creepy masks, we should wear these but in the shape of a cannabis leaf.

[Pepper]

Why do you think I put my real name on here and am carrying on posting my plants

Because you don't live in the US where the gestapo would end you're life as you know it.

[Tom Swierzbinski]

Haha, true. No gulag for me :)

[brewdy]

it's like paris, as in the us, they cannot handle a mass uprising ..
what is the spark .. anything ... people are fed up
brewdy
yeah i'm talking about violence .... against cops

[Mr. Ganja]

The anti-pot ads piss me off too, they're stupid and what's worse is that stupid people will actually buy into them and look at marijuana smokers as junkies and criminals.

I've made it my business to be open as possible about smoking marijuana at school and around the people I know. I also debate people over the marijuana legalization and own the living hell out of them.