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the joint meister
05-15-2006, 04:38 AM
hey guys i just bot 250 hbwr seeds from im am shayman shop and i now have

them now how do i make pure lsa or as close to it as possible keep in mind

that i have very easy acsess to zippo lighter fluid and other things thank u!

peace out

Jeff Spicoli
05-15-2006, 04:40 AM
hbwr? aren't you only suppose to eat like 10 of them and trip?

andruejaysin
05-15-2006, 04:56 AM
Grind seeds well, soak in naptha, strain and let seed powder dry. Now let the seed powder soak in ethanol (everclear). The naptha extracts fats that make you sick. Ethanol, unlike water, don't extract some ergo compound which reduce the trip, probably because they compete for receptor sites. The alcohol can be evaporated, but LSA is unstable, best simply to drink the extract. And 250 hbwr seeds is WAY to much. Yesterday I couldn't have told you that, but my mgs trip last night (my first) was promising enough to get me very interested in the subject.

harmonicminor
05-15-2006, 05:03 AM
hey did you get the Indian strain without the hair on them???

the joint meister
05-15-2006, 07:17 AM
i didint plan on useing all 250 of them on one trip i bot that many so i could do it a shit load of times!

Euphoric
05-15-2006, 07:20 AM
u are insane!!

soon to be extra insane

i ate 35 seeds the other night and tripped like crazyy

mrpink019
05-15-2006, 11:48 PM
Can you use zippo lighter fluid instead of petroleum ethanol? Or are they they same?

So, first you grind the seeds into a fine powder, then you put them in the lighter fluid(or whichever), shake a lot, then let it stand for half an hour or so. After that you strain it, take the seeds, and put it in everclear. Let it stand for a few days, then strain again. Then drink the everclear.

Is that correct?

The only problem that I see is if lighter fluid doesn't work getting petroleum ethanol.

andruejaysin
05-16-2006, 12:04 AM
Yes, lighter fluid, naptha, petroleum ether, mineral spirits, all different names for the same thing. No such thing as petroleum ethanol. You have it right, except you want to let the lighter fluid dry off the seeds before adding the everclear, so you don't end up drinking any of it. Petroleum ether is NOT diethyl ether, the kind people usually mean when they say "ether".

the dude abides
05-16-2006, 01:57 AM
easy extraction process that actually works great: wash them, chew them into a pulp, swallow

EbelEyes
05-16-2006, 02:12 AM
Extraction Method 1 (http://www.erowid.org/plants/morning_glory/morning_glory_extraction1.shtml)


Extraction Method 2 (http://www.erowid.org/plants/morning_glory/morning_glory_extraction2.shtml)

I plan on getting some HBWR from iamshaman.com too. :thumbsup:

the joint meister
05-16-2006, 08:27 AM
ill probly just chew up like 18-20 of um and trip, i have never dub this or lsd can u tell me how much this is actualy like lsd thanks!

420mory
06-01-2006, 11:56 AM
I have done a crude LSA-extraction from MG seeds a few times. I used zippo fluid as a non-polar solvent (purified benzin would be a lot better and it's available from pharmacies, at least here). As a polar solvent, I used ethanol. Extraction made from 10 grams of crushed and ground up seeds gave me a fairly strong trip with practically no nausea of whatsoever. I personally tend to get very nausious when ingesting even six grams of ground up seeds, so there certainly was great improvement in that area.

The seeds were first soaked in the non-polar solvent for few hours, strained and left to dry completely. Then they were soaked in the polar solvent for three days (shaking occasionally), strained, the mush was discarded and the solvent evaporated under normal room temperature in darkness. The residue was scraped from the bottom and stored safe from light until ingestion.

The results from my experiments with extraction have been so promising, that I will surely use this method also in the future.