My Grow Room/Plants Feedback Wanted

[Likes to build bongs]

Here are some pictures of my grow room and my four plants. The plant to the far right of the pictures was planted on 4/27, and the other three were planted three days latter on 4/30. For the first week and a half or so I had one (I don't know how many watts it is, but it's suppose to be equalivalent to a regular 100 watt bulb) CFL on them (the one on the far right in the black lamp), and then I got the long hood lamp at a garage sale for a buck. Then today I just put two more CFLs in there. The on in the middle is a 40 watt 200 watt equalivalent bulb that puts out 2600 lumens, and the one on the far right is a 13 watt 60 watt equalivalent I believe, and it puts 800 lumens. All the lights are on a 24/7 cycle, and I water them about once a day, or if the soil looks and feels dry, and I give them a little spray with water about twice a day, so the leaves don't burn.
Please give me some tips or other feedback to help make this grow go well for me. I also want to know a rough estiment on how much I might be looking to yeld. Thanks

[LIP]

Well you say that you give it a mist every day so the leaves wont burn.

Well they will burn if you spray them!

You should NEVER get the leaves moist when the lights are on them, cos the light will burn a hole right though them.

Up 2 u if you spray them, but they wont burn, so theres no need, but if you must, put your cycle on 18/6 so you can do it in the dark cycle.

And is that fan actually moving the plants?

You need one to blow gently on them to do the stems. Looks like that one is just cooling the lights

[KHAN]

Yup get a fan blowing on low power constantly. Simulates wind and will make them strong.

[Likes to build bongs]

the fan is doing both, it cools the lights and it blows on the plants

[John Doe]

But its pointing straight up in the air.
Heres my 2 cents and possibly a few pointers.
Personally I hate potting more then one plant per pot... or container. the roots will bind together and stuff will just go down hill from there.

[Shallow Hal]

the fan is not the issue here , too many plants in that container is 1 issue , the container is another , it has transparent sides and ur roots don't like light at all , this will slow down ur growth . also the tin foil that u have use as a reflector will probably burn if hit with a naked flame. if u ask me and i don't want to sound rude but ur going to have to rethink ur grow setup. compact floros i am not a lover of, 3 or 4, 4 foot floros will give u better coverage of light and the holders for these are cheap and easy to pick up. heat of floros is not a problem , i keep my floros about an inch away from my plants and what it does do it promotes good secondary grow, from what i can see ur fan is fine where it is at

[bob bobbinson]

get em into individual pots. Get mylar or lighting 97%. instead of tin foil. fan looks good as long as all those little leaves are moving around. u will have to raise fan as plants grow though...
or get two. one for undergrowth and one for top growth.

[LIP]

Yeah, i didnt say anything about the pots or foil.

The foil is a waste of time, it abosrbs light, doesnt reflect.

The plants will get mighty unhappy being in the same pot, and i doubt theres enough room in the pot anyway.

About the lgihts on the roots. This isnt proved, no one knows, some say its ok, some say its not, i personally think its bad. Naturaly they wouldnt get any light, so that my resaoning.

[Shallow Hal]

there u go again lip . i tell u what u let a 600 hps shine on the roots of ur plant and see how well its does , years again one of my 1st grows i used transpant boxes i got from a local budget shop , the plant where weak and didn't producr much bud at all , i was told just to use cheap tomato pots from B&Q black one ,,, thats all i have ever used since , same seed same soil same nut's. so tell me was it the pots or not .

[postmandave]

roots hate light they will die in that transparent tub ,roots hate light this is a proven fact if it was not why dont we get transparent plant pots its a big no no. so im with u hal. also if you dont get them into seperate pots the roots will tangle then your grow will be a waste if time its all in the end product thats were the strenth of the grower comes into play ,anyway its your first grow and its all about learning just listen to the growers on heere they will keep you right.the postman.

[Jdog7000]

Ok LIP,I have to say something. You gotta stop with your misinformation.
I think alot of us are tired of correcting you. lol
Light on roots=very bad...Tinfoil reflects some light but isn't usless. If you use the right side of it.It dose reflect some light.Flat white paint is better. And mylar is even better then that.

[postmandave]

Ok LIP,I have to say something. You gotta stop with your misinformation.
I think alot of us are tired of correcting you. lol
Light on roots=very bad...Tinfoil reflects some light but isn't usless. If you use the right side of it.It dose reflect some light.Flat white paint is better. And mylar is even better then that.



Well said jdogg.the postman.

[mobay]

you can go to your local lowes store and pick up a roll of reflective material. you dont have to order on line for this.

[mobay]

postman and i have used this in our grows

[The Grim Reefer]

Yeah, i didnt say anything about the pots or foil.

The foil is a waste of time, it abosrbs light, doesnt reflect.

The plants will get mighty unhappy being in the same pot, and i doubt theres enough room in the pot anyway.

About the lgihts on the roots. This isnt proved, no one knows, some say its ok, some say its not, i personally think its bad. Naturaly they wouldnt get any light, so that my resaoning.

All you've done here is repeated information already located in this thread :/

Roots hate light, as it's also already been said.

I also wanted to tell you that tin foil does reflect light, just not as efficiently. (where did you hear tin foil absorbs more light than it reflects?) It's possible to create hot spots and burn your plant.

No offense lip, but it seems that you always want the last word and sometimes you talk to people bit arrogantly and don't always give reasoning behind what you're saying.

no offense :stoned:

[9ski9]

Just my 2 cents...

I'd take off the reflectors/hoods from the CFL's and get the lights to within an inch of the plants. Eh, after repotting them into their own pots. What doesn't unscrew, I'd cut off (after unplugging, of course).

Foil is good to use on things like black electrical cords and unevenly shaped pots. I use it to wrap books to use as booster seats to raise the plants. I wrapped the clothes rod in my grow room and used it to hang CFL's.

Sometimes the best reflective material isn't the easiest to use.

I do have a dissenting opinion about misting, though...I sometimes mist three times a day, right up until the buds begin clumping, since I don't want to create mold. I do this even with CFL's almost touching young plants, as well as with flowering plants under HPS and MH. It's an easy way to offset transpiration that's especially bad in hot, dry weather, or when you are growing in winter and use a dry heat for your home. It's instant humidity, though I don't really use it for any 'cooling' factor. Fans do that...in fact, I use a fairly warm water to avoid any shock.

I know that some plants such as the Japanese Cut Leaf Maple can have it's leaves burned off by misting---or getting garden hose water on the leaves when watering outside. The leaves are sensitive to the magnifying quality of the water droplets.

I use a bottle meant for misting and keep the nozzle set on the finest spray.

But MJ?

I'm a perpetual growing newbie and only know what works for me, but misting is my favorite thing to do to my girls.

[Garden Knowm]

you can go to your local lowes store and pick up a roll of reflective material. you dont have to order on line for this.


great stuff. I have used this also with Hydro systems.. it is very easy to cut into small specific shapes for those of us who like to cover every square inch.


The only problem I see with your "FIRST" grow is the pot being clear..

Sure a lot of things that the others said are very valid... but the clear pot might actually do you IN.. like KILL your plants BRO!

get the lights as close as you can.. and don't worry about having the fan pointed at your plants.. as log as the fan is on and the plants are moving a tad bit.. this will suffice for CFL's

iloveyou

You should consider a simple transplant into a solid colored pot (no light should get to the soil, except from the top) and then flower your plants when you have 3-4 nodes.. this will also remedy the roots tangling/fighting isuue that will arrise whe the plants get BIG..

You will have a nice little harvest and you will learn a shit load about the plants..

If you let them get big.. 5,6,7,10 nodes..
Well... don't do that

iloveyou


NEVER MIST...

LOL

[9ski9]

NEVER MIST...


GK, you've burned leaves from misting?

[KEGS]

Gaffer's Tape is good to rap around clear contaner
or rap duct tape around about four or five time's
that should take care of your root's
good luck

[mobay]

with your plants that small now it will be the best time to remove them from your soil box and place them in their own pots. dig your hand deep under the plants to remove them

[The Grim Reefer]

I've burnt my plants from misting and have seen others do it as well, but if you can do it without problems and it works for you, do it!

[9ski9]

I've burnt my plants from misting and have seen others do it as well, but if you can do it without problems and it works for you, do it!

Yeah, hey, I'm just sorta fascinated to read GK saying not to mist...I've heard others say it here and there, but I have such good results from it and have never really disagreed with anything GK has ever suggested.

Not disputing your results, but my girls have always thrived from it from seedling to mid-flower.

[harmonicminor]

while you guys may be right about roots hating light,
even though the outer edge will let light in that light wont go very far though the dirt.
and on to the misting,
it may be good for humidity but theres other ways for that. cannabis leaves dont take in nutes through the leaves I am sorry to say, they only transpire through the bottom of leaves.
misting can work for clones in a humidity dome but the better way is to stop them from transpiring

[Garden Knowm]

GK, you've burned leaves from misting?

No..actually I have never seen a leaf get burned from mistying.. and I wwater my plants outside all the time in hot summer heat .. water all over the leaves.,.... and I have never seen burning..

I actually have only seen plants burn when people neglect them and let them grow into the lights...

I have serious MOLD parnaoia.. I was just busting your balls about the No misting.. I saw what you wrote and edited my post..

ILOVEYOU

LOL

if misting works for you.. well then KUDOS..

BUt like I said.. NO MISTING

: )

cheers

[Garden Knowm]

while you guys may be right about roots hating light,
even though the outer edge will let light in that light wont go very far though the dirt.
and on to the misting,
it may be good for humidity but theres other ways for that. cannabis leaves dont take in nutes through the leaves I am sorry to say, they only transpire through the bottom of leaves.
misting can work for clones in a humidity dome but the better way is to stop them from transpiring


its not only that roots dont like light.. cause I have seen great grows with roots exposed to lights.. BUT soil that is exposed to light can grow all sorts of funky shit in it that can and will lead to root rot and bugs and worst of all...

GUNK

iloveyou

[Jdog7000]

yep....Misting just ups your chances of the big buds growing mold.
So after months of work. The last thing I would want to do is make my buds mold.During veg spraying is fine. Spraying the buds is what is a no no. That is,if you don't have to(bugs make you spray your buds)Lots of ventalation is needed for this.:thumbsup:

[harmonicminor]

its not only that roots dont like light.. cause I have seen great grows with roots exposed to lights.. BUT soil that is exposed to light can grow all sorts of funky shit in it that can and will lead to root rot and bugs and worst of all...

GUNK

iloveyou

you are prolly right there knowm but I also have proof roots are ok with light.....
did you ever do clones in a bottle on the windowsill???? yup light gets to the roots for sure that way and the plant wont die because of it. just because roots arent naturally exposed to light doesnt mean light will kill them :thumbsup:

[Likes to build bongs]

Well, I transplanted them as you can see by the pictures, and I've stoped misting them. I think I might of damaged one of the plants during the transplant (the one second from the right). Hopefully they'll all survive.
When do I turn the lights to 12/12?

[9ski9]

I have serious MOLD parnaoia.. I was just busting your balls about the No misting.. I saw what you wrote and edited my post..


Gotcha. I don't mist once buds start clumping for the same mold paranoia reasons. I also have four fans in a 5x5x4ish space, so I'm often in a fight to raise humidity as I try to keep the canopy temp reasonable. Mold isn't really much of an issue in a wind tunnel.

My balls are a little sensitive to busting because Harddon recently sent me in a new direction with a feeding mixture that is an unknown to me.

I've been feeding my girls Jack Daniels and ammonia, among other things.

It worries me, but I trust the mind of HD and don't question it.

Okay, sorry, enough hijacking.

peace

[Garden Knowm]

transplant looks successful

harmin...good observation watson

ski.... your feeding your plants...what

[The Grim Reefer]

Just so I've got that straight, you've been pouring ammonia and jack daniels in the water you're giving them?

LOL, does it work?

Sounds like it would rape the hell out of my plants.

[9ski9]

The first couple of flower feedings were with weak cactus juice, but they are currently getting this for three consecutive feedings:

Per 2 gallons water:
1 tbspn...lipton iced tea dry granules
1 tbspn...JD whiskey
1 tbspn...clear corn syrup
1 tbspn...dry plain gelatin powder
1 tbspn...plain non scented ammonia
1 tbspn...Palmolive dish detergant
3 egg shells ground in a mortar and pestle

And weekly 5-1-1 fish emulsion to keep 'em green.

[9ski9]

Yes, they look really happy in their new homes. Don't be discouraged if they are a little droopy for a bit. During your next repotting, I'd suggest dusting the rootball and new hole with Schultz Rooting Hormone for a happier, less stressful transplant.


Just so I've got that straight, you've been pouring ammonia and jack daniels in the water you're giving them?
LOL, does it work?
Sounds like it would rape the hell out of my plants.

The mixture smells like a cat litter box and pours onto the soil like a dirty bubble bath.

My girls were gorgeous, just starting to get bud sites everywhere, as I did a time-consuming mix of LST and some snapping and leaf tucking...

But Harddon is a crazy mad scientist that I trust.

And the buds have grown a week's worth after three days. I now can't imagine doing it any other way. And it's supposed to make for a very smooth smoke, as well.

[Likes to build bongs]

Hey everyone. Well, my plants seem to be doing preaty good for the most part. Some of the leaves on my plants are starting to turn kind of yellow, and I'm wondering if that's from a lack of nitrogen in the soil. If it is, what can I do to increse the amount of nitrogen without using any ferts? I don't want to use any ferts because I want to grow as organicaly as possiable, but mostly because I don't have any money. I do have a random assortment of plant type growing stuff around the house, because my parents use to grow orciades. Any advice would be greatly apperiated.

[keeko]

if im not mistaken, rain water has a lot of nitrogen in it, if you live in a place where you get clean rain water, and not acid rain, i would just collect some and use that. I have also heard that urine has many nutrients and is sterile, that is if you done have any urinary infections, which could be good for organic growing.....as i am a newbie, i would check out my info for it may be incorrect, the learning process is a great one

[keeko]

just read over my post, it might have confused some people..........if you have a unrinary infection, then it is NOT good to use it, but if your clean and healthy, it can make a great organi feed.......