View Full Version : (THIS is interesting, read please!)What did Jimi Hendrix die on?
EternalEnemy
05-13-2006, 07:03 PM
Now, my friend is very anti-pot, declaring indecent "facts" about it, and one of them is that Jimi Hendrix died on pot, at the age of 24.
Now, doese anyone know what he really died on? Any links?
Some more "facts":
-Nicotine is not a substance within the tobacco plant, its a substance that is born when something is being burned, wheter that is tobacco, weed, wood, normal grass or(i think he claimed this too:) plastic. Or anything else.
-Smoking weed will get you more addicted than smoking tobacco, because they are both physically addictive, and weed also gives a high which makes you desire more of it.
-The tobacco corporations dont add anything to tobacco that isnt naturally there.
-Weed causes lung cancer as much as tobacco
-Tobacco is not radioactive; they use radioactivity to clone the tobacco plants, so they grow faster or something. That means that the host plant is radioactive, and all the other ones are not.
Now...I have smoked only 4 times. Yes, i know, pathetic amount. He has inhaled 1 or 2 times some weed that was so shitty (mine, and i dont count this on those four times) it did not give me any effect. And yes, i was smoking it right.
Feel free to correct if there is anything bizarre or suspicious in there.
EternalEnemy
05-13-2006, 07:04 PM
And yeah, i know, this is not recreational, this is medical etc...but i thought this would be noticed better this way.
Psycho4Bud
05-13-2006, 07:17 PM
And yeah, i know, this is not recreational, this is medical etc...but i thought this would be noticed better this way.
I thought it fit better here and in the future, if you feel your posting in the wrong area....for whatever reason....don't. It'll just get moved or deleted.
Thanks much and
Have a good one!:thumbsup:
EternalEnemy
05-13-2006, 07:28 PM
Ah, sorry.
Gumby
05-13-2006, 07:55 PM
try watching this...
http://www.pot.tv/archive/shows/pottvshowse-3012.html
graph
05-13-2006, 09:16 PM
In the early morning hours of September 18, 1970, Jimi Hendrix was found dead in the basement flat of the Samarkand Hotel at 22 Lansdowne Crescent in London. Hendrix died amid circumstances which have never been satisfactorily explained, and the exact details of his death will probably never be confirmed. He had spent the night with his German girlfriend, Monika Dannemann, and likely died in bed after drinking wine and taking nine Vesperax sleeping pills, then drowning in his own vomit. For years, Dannemann publicly claimed that Hendrix was alive when placed in the back of the ambulance; however, her comments about that morning were often contradictory and confused, varying from interview to interview. Police and ambulance reports reveal that not only was Hendrix dead when they arrived on the scene, but he had been dead for some time, the apartment's front door was wide open, and the apartment itself empty. Following a libel case brought in 1996 by Hendrix's long-term British girlfriend Kathy Etchingham, Monika Dannemann took her own life.
A sad poem written by Hendrix that was found in the apartment has led some to believe that he committed suicide. More speculative is the belief that Hendrix was murderedâ??forcibly given the sleeping pills and wine, then asphyxiated with a scarf by professionals hired by either manager Michael Jeffery or the US government. The most accepted and credible theory, however, is that he simply misjudged the potency of the sleeping pills, and asphyxiated in his sleep due to an inability to regain consciousness when he vomited.
Sorry gumby, cutting and pasting from wikipedia was faster for me.
If you want, I can dicredit all of your friend's "facts" as well.
Gumby
05-13-2006, 09:26 PM
In the early morning hours of September 18, 1970, Jimi Hendrix was found dead in the basement flat of the Samarkand Hotel at 22 Lansdowne Crescent in London. Hendrix died amid circumstances which have never been satisfactorily explained, and the exact details of his death will probably never be confirmed. He had spent the night with his German girlfriend, Monika Dannemann, and likely died in bed after drinking wine and taking nine Vesperax sleeping pills, then drowning in his own vomit. For years, Dannemann publicly claimed that Hendrix was alive when placed in the back of the ambulance; however, her comments about that morning were often contradictory and confused, varying from interview to interview. Police and ambulance reports reveal that not only was Hendrix dead when they arrived on the scene, but he had been dead for some time, the apartment's front door was wide open, and the apartment itself empty. Following a libel case brought in 1996 by Hendrix's long-term British girlfriend Kathy Etchingham, Monika Dannemann took her own life.
A sad poem written by Hendrix that was found in the apartment has led some to believe that he committed suicide. More speculative is the belief that Hendrix was murderedâ??forcibly given the sleeping pills and wine, then asphyxiated with a scarf by professionals hired by either manager Michael Jeffery or the US government. The most accepted and credible theory, however, is that he simply misjudged the potency of the sleeping pills, and asphyxiated in his sleep due to an inability to regain consciousness when he vomited.
Sorry gumby, cutting and pasting from wikipedia was faster for me.
If you want, I can dicredit all of your friend's "facts" as well.
wikipedia isn't a factual source, it's comprised by people and it doesn't even give information about his death. I made no statement on what I thought, just posted a video that I found... perhaps you shouldn't be so willing to defend what you believe without finding out why you believe it...
graph
05-13-2006, 10:03 PM
I... really have no idea what you're talking about. Calm down, buddy. All I did was copy and paste because it was easier, and I never said you were wrong.
Also, I'm assuming you stopped at that sentence you highlighted, because it gives three different opinions on what happened. It's writted by people, but many people are satisfied with the belief that he drowned in his own vomit. I might be more inclined to believe this because a similar incident happened to a friend of mine. That's why I believe.
Gumby
05-13-2006, 10:13 PM
sorry I thought you were disclaiming the video I posted... It says he was killed by the government which is why I thought what you posted was claiming mine was false... that part, (and I did read it all ;)
"More speculative is the belief that Hendrix was murderedâ??forcibly given the sleeping pills and wine, then asphyxiated with a scarf by professionals hired by either manager Michael Jeffery or the US government. "
I'm not discaliming the Wikipedia statement, I just don't find it as a good source for factual information yet... it is still too new and too much false information is still on there... But that is another point.
I'm sorry for the confusion and thought that it was about my post and the government killing him... it's a pretty cool vid though, it'll make you think
I still don't know I don't trust the govenrment enough to believe they could have killed him, but I do know Hendrix did a lot of drugs and abused his body.
graph
05-13-2006, 10:17 PM
No, it's cool I get it. There's a lot of bad info on wikipedia, especially on these subjects. I would believe the goverment killed him, but that means that I have to believe the government is competent and good at keeping secrets.
Gumby
05-13-2006, 10:30 PM
I think the hardest part for me is believing that the man kep acid under his eyes yet died cause of some pills and wine... I think I want him to die for a bigger reason is all... I think that's why a lot of conspiricy come about. People want to think he died for a greater purpose.
I don't think the govenrment is that bad at lying though... this one is, but remember Kennedy died and people still think it was only one shooter. The video shows 5 people too, that is what made it a bit more convincing. We'll see though, and perhaps it's better not knowing... that way we remember what he did when he was alive rather than the instance which he stopped living.
LittLeWinG
05-14-2006, 02:50 AM
i thought jimi died in a plane crash...thats what i was told anyway.
xblackdogx
05-14-2006, 05:29 AM
didn't jimi just release first rays of the new rising sun?
Captain Hanks
05-14-2006, 05:58 AM
ok lets stop all the rumors, "jimi hendrix died in a plane crash"!!!hahaha
anyway
the truth is that jimi died from an overdose of sleeping pills, he was used to taking a handful of them when he was on tour so that he could get some rest, sleeping was hard for him because of other drugs he was doing such as speed, anyways he took a handful of a rather potent brand of sleeping pills from germany and later choked on his own vomit... sufficating him
also there is NO nictone in weed when it is burnt,
tabocco is physically addicting cannabis is NOT,
the tobacco copertions ADDS 700 chemicals to cigs,
there has never been a case of som1 getting lung cancer from cannabis... cannabis smokers lungs turn into a pre-cancerous state before they die off... tobacco smokers lungs dont die after reaching the pre-cancerous state but turn into a cancerous state,
Myth1184
05-14-2006, 03:09 PM
uh..Jimi Hendrix Died with a Needle of Heroine in one arm, and a needle of Liquid Cement in the other arm, he then choked on his own Vomit.(Life and Death of a Legend: The Jimi Hendrix Story: History Channel)
And yes...Pot is addictive. NO matter what other potheads tell you.
Shelbay
05-14-2006, 04:07 PM
uh..Jimi Hendrix Died with a Needle of Heroine in one arm, and a needle of Liquid Cement in the other arm, he then choked on his own Vomit.(Life and Death of a Legend: The Jimi Hendrix Story: History Channel)
And yes...Pot is addictive. NO matter what other potheads tell you.
Just curious how you know it is addictive? What is your opinion based on?
The Grim Reefer
05-14-2006, 06:03 PM
I would also like to know. :D
Psycho4Bud
05-14-2006, 06:33 PM
Some time after, Hendrix took at least eight, possibly nine of the same tablets. Monika woke around 10.20. Hendrix was sleeping normally. She had planned to go out for cigarettes but just before leaving, she noticed vomit on Jimi's nose and mouth. She tried to wake him but couldn't and called a friend to ask what to do. An ambulance was called. It arrived about 11.20 a.m. Hendrix was seated upright in the back with no head support. Sometime in the next twenty-five minutes before they arrived at St. Mary Abbot's Hospital, Jimi Hendrix choked on his own vomit. He was pronounced D.O.A. The pathologist reported a large amount of Seconol in Jimi's blood but no reason to assume that suicide was the cause of death. The cause of death noted on the coroner's report was inhalation of vomit after barbiturate intoxication.
In 1993, the investigation into Hendrix's death was reopened by Scotland Yard, but when no new evidence was unearthed, the matter was dropped.
http://www.classicbands.com/hendrix.html
TheLion
05-14-2006, 09:31 PM
uh..Jimi Hendrix Died with a Needle of Heroine in one arm, and a needle of Liquid Cement in the other arm, he then choked on his own Vomit.(Life and Death of a Legend: The Jimi Hendrix Story: History Channel)
And yes...Pot is addictive. NO matter what other potheads tell you.
Holy shit guys, we are never going to get herb legalized if people people on a cannabis site can't even get the facts straight. Cannabis is NOT physically addictive. It can be "psychologically" addictive which means that one can convince themselves that they need it to become normal. The thing is, any subastance can be psycholically addictive; caffeine, sugar, pizza, whatever.
TheLion
05-14-2006, 09:31 PM
uh..Jimi Hendrix Died with a Needle of Heroine in one arm, and a needle of Liquid Cement in the other arm, he then choked on his own Vomit.(Life and Death of a Legend: The Jimi Hendrix Story: History Channel)
And yes...Pot is addictive. NO matter what other potheads tell you.
Holy shit guys, we are never going to get herb legalized if people people on a cannabis site can't even get the facts straight. Cannabis is NOT physically addictive. It can be "psychologically" addictive which means that one can convince themselves that they need it to become normal. The thing is, any subastance can be psycholically addictive; caffeine, sugar, pizza, whatever.
And Hendrix died at 27...
Ok, your friend is not a friend. Hes a prick, and hes wrong about it all. Tell him to do some real research and not listen to what his mum tells him as she tucks him in for bed at 6 pm.
kbrbudhead
05-14-2006, 10:23 PM
yeah man, hendrix died from taking too many sleeping pills- no heroin, that was janis's drug of choice
and the lp that he was working on when he died would have been called "first rays of the new rising sun" had he lived to see its completion. The tracks were split up over a few lps over the early 70s including "cry of love"(1971)"rainbow bridge"(1971)"war heroes"(1972) and "loose ends" (1973). with the exception of "my friend" on the "first rays" cd, which was recorded in 1968 during the electric ladyland sessions, its a pretty close interpretation. although there were some tunes that jimi had worked with but not recorded like "locomotion" and "this little boy".....
and plus dont forget all of the interesting writings in the "black gold" book; he was on the verge of making probably 6 records in three years. had he lived i think "first rays" would have been released; then there would have been a huge tour; and then a blues record followed by a jam with miles davis
(jimi had talked to miles before about a collaberation; they were billed at the isle of wight festival on the same night-)
if it has to do with jimi, ask me- ive got everything he recorded and all the shows that have circulated- 1966-1970.......
peace:rasta: :dance:
Hempamasta
05-14-2006, 10:47 PM
"-Nicotine is not a substance within the tobacco plant, its a substance that is born when something is being burned, wheter that is tobacco, weed, wood, normal grass or(i think he claimed this too:) plastic. Or anything else."
Nicotine is a chemical that comes from the leaves of the tobacco plant.
http://health.howstuffworks.com/nicotine.htm
"-Smoking weed will get you more addicted than smoking tobacco, because they are both physically addictive, and weed also gives a high which makes you desire more of it. "
Marijuana is a psychologically addictive substance. Everything is a psychologically addictive substance. Tobacco is a physically addictive substance.
"-The tobacco corporations dont add anything to tobacco that isnt naturally there. "
Actually, cigarettes contain "Acetone, Aluminium, Ammonia, Arsenic, Benzene, Butane, Cadmium, Caffeine, Carbon monoxide, Carbon dioxide, Chloroform, Copper, Cyanide/Hydrogen cyanide, DDT/Dieldrin, Ethenol, Formaldehyde, Lead, Magnesium, Methane, Methanol, Mercury, Nicotine, Polonium, Tar, Vinyl Chloride, and Potassium nitrate." The only one of the aforementioned chemicals that doesn't normally exist in tobacco was, as I said, nicotine.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cigarette
"-Weed causes lung cancer as much as tobacco"
From Fred Gardner. "Marijuana Smoking Does Not Cause Lung Cancer", 2006-07-06... says that "Some conclusions established with some degree of certainty, however, are that cannabis is less likely to cause emphysema or cancer than tobacco"
"-Tobacco is not radioactive; they use radioactivity to clone the tobacco plants, so they grow faster or something. That means that the host plant is radioactive, and all the other ones are not. "
I don't know what the fuck kind of crack your little friend is smoking to hear something like this.
Tell your little amigo to not believe everything that he hears and to actually form ideas in his head instead of merely accepting what his parents and the DARE officer at school tells him.
Jesus, that's why MJ is illegal. There's too many people that are constantly agreeing with what people say instead of actually taking the time to "READ" actual scientific reports on Marijuana that have been released within the last 20 years.
Peace. :)"
Breukelen advocaat
05-15-2006, 01:01 AM
Hendrix was abusing barbiturates so badly in New York's The Scene, (aka Steve Paul's Scene), a club that held after-hour jam sessions, that he often had to be carried out at closing time.
Regarding politics, was not particularly radical. To the dismay of most of his musical (and other) protégés, Hendirx was hawkish regarding the Vietnam War long after most were calling for an end to American involvement. He eventually changed his mind about it, as did many other people.
P.S. The tobacco companies use Polonium (sp), a radioactive substance, in the soil that tobacco grows in. Polonium is not considered harmful to grow food with, but smoking is a different story. They've been doing this since the 1930's, and the rise in smoking-related lung cancer started rising dramatically since.
beachguy in thongs
05-17-2006, 03:10 PM
An ex-girlfriend of Jimi's (Kathy Etchingham) and another guy, started an investigation in the late 90's, to look into his death. This is because the woman (Monika Denneman) who claimed to be there with Jimi, and ride with him to the hospital, had committed suicide a week before she was supposed to go on trial and tell the truth about his death.
They discovered that the English Official Inquiry into Hendrix's death had accepted Monika Denneman's story fully, and claimed the death as "Inhalation of vomit due to barbituate overdose." They found out that on the inquest of September 28, 1970, the emergency medical team was never interviewed.
The two ambulance men, who arrived at the flat where Jimi was staying, said that when they arrived, "Jimi was fully clothed, and alone." They determined that he had been dead for several hours.
They brought him to the hospital (no one rode with them), the emergency room doctor pronounced him dead, and they found massive amounts of wine in his lungs. You can't drink wine into your lungs.
Sparing you the details, Jimi Hendrix was, either, held down and wine was forced down his throat or his head was forced into a sinkful of wine, and held there.
Jimi Hendrix was murdered!
Watch the documentary, "Jimi Hendrix - The Last 24 Hours
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