WOMEN!!!

[flamingskullballs]

those lower backl tattoos that you tend to recieve...you think "oh thats a tribal version for the chinese symbol for 'love'"...what men think is "ok, so you want me to pull out and aim my load there?"

[Shelbay]

no condom?

[eddievanzant]

You can do vaginal doggy style so it's not like it's always butt sex where more people where condoms.

[Shelbay]

condoms should be worn at ALL times...you should know that seeing as you have all the answers at your young age right....Safe sex all the time...love yourself....and anal never crossed MY mind...must be your on your mind I guess.:D

[eddievanzant]

Condoms should not be worn all the time. Not all people can conceive, and many people know 100% that neither they nor their partners have any STDs in which case condoms aren't needed. Also, if a woman has been on the pill for more than a year the chances of getting pregnant are beyond reason for more protection. What do you mean by love yourself? Whackoff? Also, what if someone wants to get pregnatn? Obviously a condom shouldn't be used. What if the guy is allergic to latex? What about a man who is able to perform a "pull-out" with consistancy? Yes, some sperm can be released before orgasm, but the last I heard, that sperm isn't able to impregnate a woman. Finally, what if a man is able to orgasm without ejaculation? I don't know about others, but I can, and I don't consider myself to be physically unique.
EDIT: Who doesn't think about anal sex every ten or so seconds?

[Shelbay]

Condoms should be worn at all times unless trying to conceive of course and would hope that your husband/wife is faithful...and also ed...there are condoms for latex sensitive people. I guess your orgasm means more than the stds these days...good luck!:D Did you really need that explained to you? There is some bad stuff being passed around with unprotected sex...ahh...but when your young you think you will live forever huh? Good Luck.:D And remember ed...the AIDS virus can take years to manifest...better safe than sorry I say...I love me..learn to love yourself enough.

[eddievanzant]

You don't have to taint your argument with dumb jokes and condescention. I never said orgasms were more important than safety. I never said someone who has had sex before shouldn't get checked. What's the point of bringing up my age? It shows that you're scared to lose in an argument to someone who might be younger than you than it discredits my points. Condoms don't always work. What about that?

[Shelbay]

ed...why are yu so scared of condoms? And fyi...there is no 100% guarantee of no stds unless you practice abstinence. And please stop trying to bait with your hate..remember your previous words about me so pleease just stop your psuedo intelligence,,,your just young and dumb and full of .....its your life...have unprotected sex hanging from a tree for all I care...you know nothing to know so much...and your age is a factor...learn that and you may live to understand. Stop telling misinformation about condoms...why wouldn't you rather chisel your chances by using a condom instead of coming up with negative points about them...breakage is usually caused by old,dry condoms and people that are not sure how to put them on correctly...maybe you could buy a pack and practice...might save your life and others ed.:D Ignorance and excuses are not healthy concerning stds in this day and time...didn't you learn this in sex ed?

[birdgirl73]

ed...why are yu so scared of condoms? And fyi...there is no 100% guarantee of no stds unless you practice abstinence. And please stop trying to bait with your hate..remember your previous words about me so pleease just stop your psuedo intelligence,,,your just young and dumb and full of .....its your life...have unprotected sex hanging from a tree for all I care...you know nothing to know so much...and your age is a factor...learn that and you may live to understand. Stop telling misinformation about condoms...why wouldn't you rather chisel your chances by using a condom instead of coming up with negative points about them...breakage is usually caused by old,dry condoms and people that are not sure how to put them on correctly...maybe you could buy a pack and practice...might save your life and others ed.:D Ignorance and excuses are not healthy concerning stds in this day and time...didn't you learn this in sex ed?

Alright, now, go easy. He's not scared of condoms. He simply stated circumstances under which they wouldn't have to be worn. And correctly so. There ARE circumstances where they're not needed, you know? Good for you if you're active with multiple partners and you wear them. Good for him if he's monogamous and doesn't, I say. . .

[Shelbay]

Alright, now, go easy. He's not scared of condoms. He simply stated circumstances under which they wouldn't have to be worn. And correctly so. There ARE circumstances where they're not needed, you know? Good for you if you're active with multiple partners and you wear them. Good for him if he's monogamous and doesn't, I say. . .
Alright now...learn not to tell me what to do girl:thumbsup: As for your insinuation of me having multiple patners...your full of crap:) And even in a monogamous relationship condoms should be worn unless attempting conception. There are NO circumstances where unprotected sex whether with one or more is safe...You obviously need some sex ed yourself...do yourself a favor and learn about stds...stop misinformation.:thumbsup: And just for fyi...it would be impossible for me to wear a condom for men considering I am a female...love yourself enough to make your partner wear a condom..but its not my life...so whatever your choice is..is exactly that...your choice...just remember...unprotected sex CAN and WILL kill people.

[eddievanzant]

ed...why are yu so scared of condoms? I'm not. If there's no other protection, in most cases condoms should be used.

And fyi...there is no 100% guarantee of no stds unless you practice abstinence. Yes there is: Only having sex with someone you know for certain has no STDs. Even so, that is irrellevent to condom use.

And please stop trying to bait with your hate..remember your previous words about me so pleease just stop your psuedo intelligence,,, I didn't bait or hate. I don't understand what you're talking about. I'm not pseudo-intelligent. I don't wear pseudo-intelligent glasses, and I don't misuse lesser known words to appear more intelligent. I am intelligent, and I cannot be stopped!

your just young and dumb and full of That's the problem. Just because I'm young doesn't mean I'm dumb. You're the one who feels the need to bring up my age, and if it weren't for you knowing my age, it wouldn't make a difference to you. If I lied and said I was thirty, you'd immediately have to change your argument which proves that your argument sucks. Age is irrellevent to this argument and you bring it up because you are stupid.
.
....its your life...have unprotected sex hanging from a tree for all I care... That actually seems like a way to spice up a relationship. I know you were just being sarcastic, but fucking on a hammock might be fun]

you know nothing to know so much... This is either something that you need to explain or something you just typed to seem more insightful and whatnot. I'm betting on the latter.

and your age is a factor... To you. (I don't know how old you are, but I think you're between 25 and 35 so) I've been around people twice and thrice your age who have expected simply another dumb teenager, but immediately after meeting me began to respect me just as much they would as an adult. The only difference is that adults are assumed to be mature, whereas I'm forced to prove that I can speak as a peer with adults. I don't mind.

learn that and you may live to understand. I understand why it matters in real life: In real life, age is immediately given away by looks. Looks lead to prejudgements. Here, that doesn't matter. If you didn't bother to click my profile, you wouldn't know my age. You still don't need to know my age.

Stop telling misinformation about condoms... Stop implying I was giving misinformation unless you cite your reference.

why wouldn't you rather chisel your chances by using a condom instead of coming up with negative points about them... I've never heard someone use chisel in that way so I cannot understand the first part of that comment, but regarding the second one, I don't think I've based my argument on the negativities of condom use. If I had, I wouldn't have forgotten to mention that condoms decrease pleasure for men.

breakage is usually caused by old,dry condoms and people that are not sure how to put them on correctly... Regardless, condoms are not always effective. You need to encourage proper use of condoms; not just use of condoms.

maybe you could buy a pack and practice...might save your life and others ed.:D
Along with not being a complete idiot who doesn't know how to put a condom on (I might have South Park to thank for that: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Proper_Condom_Use gave me a better education on the application of a condom than my sex ed class), I have practiced.

Ignorance and excuses are not healthy concerning stds in this day and time...didn't you learn this in sex ed? I didn't learn that via sex ed; I knew that because I have common sense. Ignorance is never a good thing, even when an ignorant person is on the (supposed) right side. I.E., a person who believes condoms must be worn at all times to protect against STDs may help that person avoid STDs, but that person is still ignorant and that can lead to other problems.

[birdgirl73]

All I can say is you must be very stoned right now--or else very much a black-and-white thinker who can't accurately read what others have been saying. No one has been telling you what to think or insinuiating anything about you. Notice the word "if" that was used in that sentence. Please re-read these posts when you're in a clearer state of mind. I've been married and monogamous for two decades. So no, I don't use condoms. And there are circumstances where folks don't have to--like that. No more exchanges with you, please. I think you must be upset about other things and are just feeling like flaming others.

[eddievanzant]

Alright now...learn not to tell me what to do girl:thumbsup: As for your insinuation of me having multiple patners...your full of crap:) And even in a monogamous relationship condoms should be worn unless attempting conception. There are NO circumstances where unprotected sex whether with one or more is safe...You obviously need some sex ed yourself...do yourself a favor and learn about stds...stop misinformation.:thumbsup: And just for fyi...it would be impossible for me to wear a condom for men considering I am a female...love yourself enough to make your partner wear a condom..but its not my life...so whatever your choice is..is exactly that...your choice...just remember...unprotected sex CAN and WILL kill people. A person with multiple partners should be more in favor of condoms. You are in more favor of condoms so if she was insinuating that you're a whore, it's understandable.


All I can say is you must be very stoned right now--or else very much a black-and-white thinker who can't accurately read what others have been saying. No one has been telling you what to think or insinuiating anything about you. Notice the word "if" that was used in that sentence. Please re-read these posts when you're in a clearer state of mind. I've been married and monogamous for two decades. So no, I don't use condoms. And there are circumstances where folks don't have to--like that. No more exchanges with you, please. I think you must be upset about other things and are just feeling like flaming others.
While you may be looking for a reason for why she is so pro safe-sex, I wouldn't think it's the weed. I'd say it;s either because she's mad about something else, like you said, or that she is fucking crazy! Maybe I should ask her. Shelbay, why are you so pro safe-sex? Are you fucking crazy?

[birdgirl73]

That post above wasn't to you, Eddie, as you probably know. I was trying to explain to Shelbay that folks aren't out to get her. They're simply stating their own opinions. This whole thing exhausts me. This forums if for folks to have good exchanges. I'm signing off for the night, and I hope Shelbay will go teach the sex ed class she so desperately feels everyone needs and lay off lecturing others here who are mature enough to be responsible for themselves.

[birdgirl73]

I wasn't insinuating that. I think y'all both know that. Be nice. Good night.

[Shelbay]

That post above wasn't to you, Eddie, as you probably know. I was trying to explain to Shelbay that folks aren't out to get her. They're simply stating their own opinions. This whole thing exhausts me. This forums if for folks to have good exchanges. I'm signing off for the night, and I hope Shelbay will go teach the sex ed class she so desperately feels everyone needs and lay off lecturing others here who are mature enough to be responsible for themselves.
I will sponsor the "class" for anyone that would like to participate...especially if it means stopping the spread of stds....I am calling your bluff..any takers? I WILL pay travel expenses and lodging. And at my age I am POSITIVE there is nothing you can "explain" to me about safe sex.:D And please don't feel I am desperate ...far from it...I just see the end results of passionate,unprotected sex most days so please sweetie don't think having unprotected sex is a "mature decision"...and remember your post saying others are only stating their opinions?? Well look at it that way where I am concerned...but the std rate in the world is FACT not opinion.:thumbsup:

[Shelbay]

I wasn't insinuating that. I think y'all both know that. Be nice. Good night.
Good night...nice exchange with no name calling or insults..thanks.:thumbsup: Be safe.:)

[birdgirl73]

Good night to you, too, Shelbay! Thanks for taking the high road. I feel like we had a good discussion! And while I'm at it, thanks for being passionate and articulate about a topic that is indeed very important. You're quite right that STD statistics don't lie. And I know that better than you may think. I'm the daughter of a physician and the wife of another. This year, after 22 years of marriage and a long corporate career, I've just been accepted to medical school myself. I'm still debating about whether or not to turn my life upside down and go for it, and right now it's a moot point anyway because I have a sister who's very ill with cancer and who needs my nursing care at the moment. Anyway, that's a long way of saying you're actually preaching to the choir here. I think we may be closer to being on the same page than you realize. Take care, and I'll talk to you again on the boards!

[minnesota man]

Kudos to Flaming Skull Balls for this magnificent thread.

[weezy]

someone should stick a big condom an shelbays head
then u can go around tellin everyone they have to wear condoms all the time
your worse than a priest,throwin your advice at people like that.
its each individuals choice wat they do with there life and wether they suit up.

if im with a partner thats on the pill then i wont wear any raincoat and im sure lots of couples are the same out there.

if we catch anything then fuck it,it will b our own fault and u can say "i told u so"

[Shelbay]

someone should stick a big condom an shelbays head
then u can go around tellin everyone they have to wear condoms all the time
your worse than a priest,throwin your advice at people like that.
its each individuals choice wat they do with there life and wether they suit up.

if im with a partner thats on the pill then i wont wear any raincoat and im sure lots of couples are the same out there.

if we catch anything then fuck it,it will b our own fault and u can say "i told u so"
A condom on my head?? Thats not where its supposed to go weezy...shame on you. Since it seems to be so nonchalant for unprotected sex maybe you and others that have flamed me for my belief should just type aids in google and you can actually educate yourself on this epedimic. Just a sample here...By 2005 more than 40 million people are infected-double from 1995...New infections among women especially young women outpace men..a stark reminder that gender and violence against women are fueling this epedimic. The 40 million broke down shows 17.5 million women and 2.3 million children under the age of 15 are infected. In 2005 alone 3.1 million people died of HIV/AIDS related causes..so ladies..please THINK!! If a man insists on unprotected sex..maybe you need to get a mental image of getting a positive test result back in the future all because you wanted to please your man at the time. Aids not only affects the individual infected it ravages families and communities..and the caring for ill family members rests mainly with women and girls that are many times ill themselves. Oh! And on unprotected sex in marriage..Some research indicates that married women are in FACT more at risk for HIV than unmarried women. So WEEZY while you insult me about a condom on my head I will still post what I can on this subject..you will not deter me okay..and your statement that if "we catch anything it will be our own fault and I can say I told you so" is NOT what I would want..that is just a stupid remark..because when you catch "something" most don't even know they have it and continue to spread it. UNPROTECTED SEX is dangerous and the spread of this disease can be halted with active participation in prevention. People lie..every day...women please please think before taking the chance on dying young..and it can be a very slow,painful death...all for a bit of "pleasure".

[birdgirl73]

Good morning, Shelbay!

I'm curious about what sort of work you do for a living. And are you married?

[Shelbay]

Good morning, Shelbay!

I'm curious about what sort of work you do for a living. And are you married?
Good Morning birdgirl! Wow..thats a nice post to see..someone actually saying good morning,thank you!:) I don't work (get paid lol) anymore and yes I am married..I do volunteer work now..all over the country. You come from a family that specializes in health so I assume (uh-oh) lol, that you of all people understand traveling nurses. I had a "breakdown" and still struggle sometimes to maintain my mental health and I always feel better when I see that my actions (work) actually help make "things better" for people..Its so hard for me to see suffering..it affects me sometimes to the point I have to basically shut the world out and realize and accept that I can't make everyone well and happy....am I making sense? My main priority at home right now is Domestic Violence for illegal hispanic women..it is becoming a passion for me to translate in violent cases so that pertinent information is not lost in translating for them..I married well this time and just really like to help women in any way I can...this "thing" with me about unprotected sex is that I have worked with crack and heroin babies that are abandoned and the majority of them are also born with HIV and I hate their mothers for taking their chance at life from them..I really do..I know I shouldn't hate and I fight it but the truth is the truth..anyway..I hope this makes sense. I would post more but I have to watch what I do reveal on here so please don't think I am being vague. If you take the time to read my post history you will see that I am not a "ballbreaker" type of woman but I care for women in general and detest men that abuse us. Oh..and until 2 more years have passed and we (my husband and I) continue to receive negative results on our tests..we do to this day use condoms. Am I that over cautious about this issue to you? Seriously imo..all it takes is a few seconds to roll that condom on and cut the chances of infection..stds affect so many people! At one time in my life I was Charge Nurse on ICU..then moved to CICU...but that was many years ago..many. Whats your story?

[weezy]

come on man
if we wanted to be preached to then we would go to mass

your totally ruining my buzz with all your talk about aids and death and shit

take that shit to the aids forum or somewhere its appreciated

were all mad junkies here,its a bit late to save our souls,were all goin to hell anyways and it dont make no difference wat diseases i bring with me

[Shelbay]

weezy...I will post when and where I want until told different by the MODS...you have no control over me okay? Now...learn the ignore button..or stop reading my posts if you don't like them. I prefer to preach as you call it instead of watching innocent people die ty very much. And your word terminology...got you dude!:thumbsup: And your not God so please don't say we are all going to hell...and where do you get that "We are ALL mad JUNKIES here? Your just baiting...go try fishing okay.:thumbsup:

[birdgirl73]

Bless your heart! What an interesting story--and I feel like I understand you much beter now. You sound quite reasonable, and I see where you're coming from now. And trust me, I didn't think you were a ballbreaker. You're simply passionate and articulate about something you feel strongly about.

I really admire traveling nurses. There are some who come through the hospital my husband practices in. He's a cardiologist, and some of the cardiology and neurology traveling nurses he's worked with are the smartest, best folks he and the other staffers have ever worked with. It makes them sad that they're not permanent staffers sometimes, esepcially considering how short they all are on nursing staff these days.

Glad you're working on the domestic violence issues, too. That's so important. We had a next-door neighbor who was a real creep who abused his wife, and it was truly an appalling situation. Late-night police calls. Loud, vocal fights that were clearly audible to the houses on both sides. We intervened on three occasions and called the police. After that began, I volunteered in our local women's shelter for a couple of years just because the situation piqued my interest. During that process, I sent my neighbor a card, both to her home and her work address in case he screened her mail at home, that gave her the card and contact info for the shelter. I did that anonymously but wrote a little message in there about how everyone deserves to be safe, and it apparently worked because not long after that, she moved out one day when the creep was at work and they're now divorced. That situation really opened my eyes, and it still makes me count my blessings about what a fortunate, loving situation I'm in.

Right now I'm a writer for a big company in the Dallas area. I write ads, brochures, Web copy, speeches. Lots of stuff. And I mostly get to work at home. But my first love is and always has been medicine. I was a paramedic for 6 years when I was younger and my second major in college was pre-med. So now I've been lucky enough to be accepted to med school and have to determine whether, here in middle age, I really want to turn my life upside down and go that route. But as I mentioned previously, I can't easily do anything right now or probably for the next fall school term. My older sister has stage 3 ovarian cancer and is here with us and, I'm afraid, is getting sicker. She's in a very kick-ass chemo program, but it's probably only going to slow down the spread of the disease. That's why I came online here to be able to find weed to help her. It has helped, but I wish to goodness it could really cure her. This is the one very sad, depressing thing in my life.

Wow! Sorry for such a long message. You said you work with hispanic women. Are you down here along the border like we are in Texas? Or in one of the other states that border Mexico? (Not that you'd have to be. Hispanic immigrants are in lost of other areas besides the border states). Just curious.

Talk to you again soon!

[eddievanzant]

Speaking of statistics, condoms only prevent against HIV 85% of the time, so you may want to rethink including HIV shit in your pro-condom use argument, unless you think 85% is good enough. I don't think you do.

[friendowl]

shelbay
remember when i busted my nut in your eye
has your vision returned yet
do you still think of me

[muncheemama]

my husband and i share the same std's....we just pass 'em back n forth...i hate rubbers

[muncheemama]

shelbay
remember when i busted my nut in your eye
has your vision returned yet
do you still think of me
excuse me sir...thats is not funny! Do you know how many people lose an eye, annually, from getting nuts busted in it? by the year 2015 we will see 6 to 7 cases. there is a virtual epidemicof blah blah blah blah blah.....:cool:

[Shelbay]

shelbay
remember when i busted my nut in your eye
has your vision returned yet
do you still think of me
You are disgusting..thought you were in mourning. I wouldn't allow you within 3 feet of me..much less to actually do the disgusting act you just made a joke about. Now the best thing you can do is leave me be with your sexual innuendos..just leave it be.

[Shelbay]

excuse me sir...thats is not funny! Do you know how many people lose an eye, annually, from getting nuts busted in it? by the year 2015 we will see 6 to 7 cases. there is a virtual epidemicof blah blah blah blah blah.....:cool:
I doubt your a woman..and if you are..get treatment for your std instead of "passing it back and forth"...if an std is left untreated..you could become sterile..well..on second thought..that might be a good thing for you and yours...its a nasty person to intentionally have a std and pass it along instead of seeking treatment.Go to your local Health Dept. immediately.:thumbsup:

[weezy]

I doubt your a woman..and if you are..get treatment for your std instead of "passing it back and forth"...if an std is left untreated..you could become sterile..well..on second thought..that might be a good thing for you and yours...its a nasty person to intentionally have a std and pass it along instead of seeking treatment.Go to your local Health Dept. immediately.:thumbsup:

thats right listen to shelbay the doctor..

your like a little fuckin kid lookin to get all the attention for yourself
this thread was about women having tattoos on their backs

you should go to africa and spread you sermons over there,there are many people over there with no condoms and aids,give your advice to people who could use it,your preachin to the choir here

:thumbsup:

[Shelbay]

thats right listen to shelbay the doctor..

your like a little fuckin kid lookin to get all the attention for yourself
this thread was about women having tattoos on their backs

you should go to africa and spread you sermons over there,there are many people over there with no condoms and aids,give your advice to people who could use it,your preachin to the choir here

:thumbsup:
And you speak for who? Jealous much?

[weezy]

im speakin for myself

try having sex and maybe then you wont be so worried all the time

you cant keep living your life in a bubble


hey its the bubble boy

[Reefer Rogue]

shelbay
remember when i busted my nut in your eye
has your vision returned yet
do you still think of me

ROTFLMFAOCOPTER! :D

Shelbay, what's wrong with having UNPROTECTED SEX if the girls on the pill and you both have no stds? :confused:

[weezy]

shelbay walks around lookin like one of those government inspectors with the gas mask and 1 of those white hasmat suits on
hes never had as much as a common cold

some say he is the second coming of christ

[Shelbay]

ROTFLMFAOCOPTER! :D

Shelbay, what's wrong with having UNPROTECTED SEX if the girls on the pill and you both have no stds? :confused:
Excuse me? What exactly is so rothlyfa funny about a disgusting post such as friendowls to you? And then you have the audacity to actually ask what is wrong with having unprotected sex? If you were serious I would post you links to actual MDs that would answer your question for you in more than one way..you could even get to see pics! Just think about it! Then you could really laugh..HIV/AIDS is not a laughing matter...not in this Country or others..it is a disease that will ravage your body and kill you..and one that is preventable. A couple of posters on this thread have no real interest in this subject and just continue to use it to post disgusting comments that are aimed as a personal insult to me..why would a person attempt to make light of this disease and the methods that can be used to curb the chances of being infected? That is not only wrong it is childish,stupid and dangerous and reminds me of the ones that know they have been diagnosed with this disease and yet continue to expose others to it..oh...which reminds me..there are laws in place that can make knowingly transmitting this disease a crime. Maybe if some that shrug this off should actually talk and take a tour of an AIDS clinic and hospitals to talk with some that thought it would never happen to them...take a good long look at the babies suffering needlessly because of their biological parents foolish choices. It would also be foolish to think that abstinence classes be taught because it is a well known fact that many will not do this..it is impractical really..but taking precautions could only enhance your enjoyment knowing you have done "something" to curb the % of being infected.

[eddievanzant]

That post is pathetic. He asked you what's so wrong with sex without condoms when the woman is on the pill and there are no STDs involved, and you completely avoided his question and continued to ramble on about HIV shit. Maybe you didn't hear me the first time: condoms do not protect against HIV.

[PureEvil760]

Often they blow ya top watch when they hold ya jock
Shocked when the notch sold crotch and you lost composure
Soft for the ho's ya not stocked fulla roll ya walk for the
Hot shot wanna cop and do lots of dosha
-TECH N9NE

[Reefer Rogue]

That post is pathetic. He asked you what's so wrong with sex without condoms when the woman is on the pill and there are no STDs involved, and you completely avoided his question and continued to ramble on about HIV shit. Maybe you didn't hear me the first time: condoms do not protect against HIV.

Lol, well said, you got there before I could. All Shelbay has done in this thread is repeatedly ignore posts about the pill.

[Shelbay]

That post is pathetic. He asked you what's so wrong with sex without condoms when the woman is on the pill and there are no STDs involved, and you completely avoided his question and continued to ramble on about HIV shit. Maybe you didn't hear me the first time: condoms do not protect against HIV.
YOU are a liar and spreading misinformation..plain and simple. Using condoms is not 100% safe in preventing stds but using them properly WILL reduce the risk of stds including AIDS. 2/3'rds of people in the U.S. with the HIV virus and AIDS said they got this disease (AIDS) during UNPROTECTED SEX. Maybe you don't read so good...instead of just taking pot shots read this entire thread..maybe you will see your contradictions and utter stupidity. Did you get it this time? What is pathetic is that this is a killer disease and people still choose to have unprotected sex....as I said before ed...learn to love you enough to chisel your chances...and others. Guys like you are the reason I keep posting...:thumbsup:

[Reefer Rogue]

Shelbay, what's wrong with having UNPROTECTED SEX if the girls on the pill and you both have no stds? :confused:


*Cough*

[eddievanzant]

ROTFLMFAOCOPTER! :D

Shelbay, what's wrong with having UNPROTECTED SEX if the girls on the pill and you both have no stds? :confused: COUGH COUGH COUGH!


YOU are a liar and spreading misinformation..plain and simple. Using condoms is not 100% safe in preventing stds but using them properly WILL reduce the risk of stds including AIDS. 2/3'rds of people in the U.S. with the HIV virus and AIDS said they got this disease (AIDS) during UNPROTECTED SEX. Maybe you don't read so good...instead of just taking pot shots read this entire thread..maybe you will see your contradictions and utter stupidity. Did you get it this time? What is pathetic is that this is a killer disease and people still choose to have unprotected sex....as I said before ed...learn to love you enough to chisel your chances...and others. Guys like you are the reason I keep posting...:thumbsup: You are the one not reading entire posts, or ignoring them. I know this because you don't reply to them and disregard what is said in them. Condoms only prevent acquiring STDs during sex 85% of the time. If you think 85% is good enough, you're retarded.
You still haven't explained your usage of the word chisel.

[Shelbay]

COUGH COUGH COUGH!

You are the one not reading entire posts, or ignoring them. I know this because you don't reply to them and disregard what is said in them. Condoms only prevent acquiring STDs during sex 85% of the time. If you think 85% is good enough, you're retarded.
You still haven't explained your usage of the word chisel.
You are just stupid..I wouldn't even call you mentally challenged..that is to good for you..If you think having unprotected sex is safer than using a condom your just ignorant,young and stupid...and both of you get that "cough" checked out..might be a early warning sign...

[psychopixi]

Nobody here thinks that unprotected sex is safer than using a condom, but what people have been discussing is unprotected sex between two people who are both free from any form of STD. It's easy to get checked out, and if you know that both you and your partner are clean, and the girl is on some form of birth control, why not have unprotected sex?

You cannot magickally create an STD just by having sex, you cannot catch an STD from someone who doesn't have one, you cannot give someone an STD if you don't have it yourself.

[eddievanzant]

You are just stupid..I wouldn't even call you mentally challenged..that is to good for you..If you think having unprotected sex is safer than using a condom your just ignorant,young and stupid...and both of you get that "cough" checked out..might be a early warning sign...
You have no more points. At first you were trying to back up things with irrellevant bullshit, but this post is just insult, nonsense, nonsense, word twisting, insult, nonsense; no points at all. I couldn't understand why your argument sucks so bad. I thought maybe it was just because you make no sense, have a low reading comprehension level, present irrellevant facts, and insult me for no reason; but now I've found another reason why you suck so much: When you posted "No condoms?" I said this:

You can do vaginal doggy style so it's not like it's always butt sex where more people where condoms.

A follow up post would either be "Oh okay," or "I don't know if that's true." Instead, you completely changed the subject and implied that I thought unprotected sex is okay by saying this:

condoms should be worn at ALL times...you should know that seeing as you have all the answers at your young age right....Safe sex all the time...love yourself....and anal never crossed MY mind...must be your on your mind I guess.:D
No only have you backed up your argument with irrellevant facts, but your entire argument is irrellevant!

Now before you reply to the above with insults and whatnot, why don't youreply to these?:

1. If a man and a woman are both 100% sure that neither have any STDs and the woman has been on the pill for over a year making all other birth control overkill, why should a man wear a condom?

2. What do you mean in your usage of the word "chisel"?

[God v2.0]

Wow too much to read, but my opinion is that my little bro doesn't like being in the sleeping bag, especially when he's really excited.

the xtra large condoms are the same size as the regulars. which is bull because condoms suck, they're too tight on dick, and theres never enough room to blow my load at the end, and so its like this little ball of white at the end which sucks. then u have to take it off and its all slimey. stupid condoms, i usually insist that my girl go on the pill because condoms suck, and sometimes it takes longer to blow when i have one on.


besides there is no better feeling that sliding it into to a fresh warm juicy cunt and being able to feel it all perfectly.

[Shelbay]

Nobody here thinks that unprotected sex is safer than using a condom, but what people have been discussing is unprotected sex between two people who are both free from any form of STD. It's easy to get checked out, and if you know that both you and your partner are clean, and the girl is on some form of birth control, why not have unprotected sex?

You cannot magickally create an STD just by having sex, you cannot catch an STD from someone who doesn't have one, you cannot give someone an STD if you don't have it yourself.
Yeah...right...keep on keeping on with your viewpoint..you have yours and I have mine. It is incredibly stupid to have unprotected sex..people lie..and some..they KNOW they have the disease..and yet keep spreading the disease..not only AIDS but other stds. Sure its easy to get checked out..but it has to be done on a reguar basis and why take the chance? You said NOBODY HERE thinks that unprotected sex is safer than using a condom? Have you not read the entire thread? Or just my post? Yes there ARE some that do believe that..you yourself just asked why not have unprotected sex..was that a contradiction or just ignorance?

[Shelbay]

ED..I don't suck...thats YOUR job..and who is arguing? I wasn't aware I was "arguing" lol..and learn to use a dictionary for your definitions of a word..thought you had ALL the answers and your still asking me to define a word you supposedly don't know? I have a word for you that I am sure you know what it means..:D Unprotected Sex is dangerous and can kill you..maybe not now..might even be 10-15 yrs. from now..you just don't know....but use condoms ED.

[SensiRide]

Yeah...right...keep on keeping on with your viewpoint..you have yours and I have mine. It is incredibly stupid to have unprotected sex..people lie..and some..they KNOW they have the disease..and yet keep spreading the disease..not only AIDS but other stds. Sure its easy to get checked out..but it has to be done on a reguar basis and why take the chance? You said NOBODY HERE thinks that unprotected sex is safer than using a condom? Have you not read the entire thread? Or just my post? Yes there ARE some that do believe that..you yourself just asked why not have unprotected sex..was that a contradiction or just ignorance?

I dont want you to snap at me the way you are snapping at everyone else, but can I just ask - have you had a bad experience with unprotected sex?
Just curious.......

[Shelbay]

I dont want you to snap at me the way you are snapping at everyone else, but can I just ask - have you had a bad experience with unprotected sex?
Just curious.......
Snapping? Why would you say that? Because I continue to post my views and FACTS on unprotected sex? Why would you even care about my post? Did you not read this thread to see where I am coming from? Must not have seeing as you asked a personal question about my sex life instead of actually reading why I feel as I do. The Global Health Organization is a great site to educate on this disease that is killing millions and infecting millions more every year. The best way to stop HIV and AIDS is to use condoms during vaginal or anal sex..that is a FACT. Its funny you very seldom even acknowledge me on this board but when you do you make the accusation of me snapping at people with the insinuation it is only me on this thread lol..why? As I said read the entire thread before you ask me a personal question about my sex life..ALL of my experiences with this disease has been in treating those unfortunate enough to first get HIV then watch over the years as their immune systems fail and it becomes full blown AIDS..so YES I do have personal experience with HIV/AIDS..as I stated in this thread in previous posts. It would have been nice if you had just debated..but you singled me out for "snapping" at everyone else from the get go Sensi..not quite right imo. People lie..its a fact..and when your in love or just want to "feel good" we ALL do stupid things but there are some that knowingly pass this disease on to others out of hatred..Oh! And please remember if you ever have a blood transfusion..make sure it is a Country that have laws in place to test the actual blood before you receive it..and never share needles. Unprotected Sex doesn't just affect the ones doing it..it affects the entire world....even virgins,children,married people etc...that have no control over how they got the disease.....when we have sex or share needles etc...we are making the choice..so choose right.

[SensiRide]

Snapping? Why would you say that? Because I continue to post my views and FACTS on unprotected sex? Why would you even care about my post? Did you not read this thread to see where I am coming from? Must not have seeing as you asked a personal question about my sex life instead of actually reading why I feel as I do. The Global Health Organization is a great site to educate on this disease that is killing millions and infecting millions more every year. The best way to stop HIV and AIDS is to use condoms during vaginal or anal sex..that is a FACT. Its funny you very seldom even acknowledge me on this board but when you do you make the accusation of me snapping at people with the insinuation it is only me on this thread lol..why? As I said read the entire thread before you ask me a personal question about my sex life..ALL of my experiences with this disease has been in treating those unfortunate enough to first get HIV then watch over the years as their immune systems fail and it becomes full blown AIDS..so YES I do have personal experience with HIV/AIDS..as I stated in this thread in previous posts. It would have been nice if you had just debated..but you singled me out for "snapping" at everyone else from the get go Sensi..not quite right imo. People lie..its a fact..and when your in love or just want to "feel good" we ALL do stupid things but there are some that knowingly pass this disease on to others out of hatred..Oh! And please remember if you ever have a blood transfusion..make sure it is a Country that have laws in place to test the actual blood before you receive it..and never share needles. Unprotected Sex doesn't just affect the ones doing it..it affects the entire world....even virgins,children,married people etc...that have no control over how they got the disease.....when we have sex or share needles etc...we are making the choice..so choose right.

Maybe you dont realise you're doing it , but you certainly come across as very....Im not sure what word to use.....but from the posts I've seen you make you are awfully defensive and yeah snappy. Psychopixi just made a statement and you had to start the reply with

Yeah...right...keep on keeping on with your viewpoint..

Why so hostile? I was only asking you a simple question which I didnt even get an answer to. And why do I have to 'acknowledge' you before I can make a comment about your post?
Anyway, I'm not getting into an argument over the net, I just wanted a simple answer to a simple question. Thats all.

Peace.

[Shelbay]

I thought it had to do with psychopixi..I was just being honest..And I realize exactly what I say. You don't like it..thats you....NOW thats SNAPPY:thumbsup: And you didn't "ask a simple question" you got personal from the beginning..but thats cool..means you guys are reading this stuff:thumbsup: Peace Your a beautiful woman..seen a few prettier than you when they first were diagnosed with HIV..gone now..ravaged to the bitter end...Oh! And some of the ones I listened to..had not a clue who..where or why...could not even remember their sex partners name or how many after a E party..which I DON"T have a clue about considering I don't party. Be safe.:)

[eddievanzant]

Why should I tell you what I mean when I use the word argument when you won't reply to the things I suggested you to reply to? Oh well. I'll tell you any way.
Argument - a fact or assertion offered as evidence that something is true; "it was a strong argument that his hypothesis was true"
or a discussion in which reasons are advanced for and against some proposition or proposal; "the argument over foreign aid goes on and on"
I thought that if you only knew the word argument as a synonym of debate, you could still use the context to realise that I was using it in the same way the word assertion can be used. I've used both in this thread.
Now reply to this or go to hell:

1. If a man and a woman are both 100% sure that neither have any STDs and the woman has been on the pill for over a year making all other birth control overkill, why should a man wear a condom?

2. What do you mean in your usage of the word "chisel"?

[psychopixi]

Yeah...right...keep on keeping on with your viewpoint..you have yours and I have mine. It is incredibly stupid to have unprotected sex..people lie..and some..they KNOW they have the disease..and yet keep spreading the disease..not only AIDS but other stds. Sure its easy to get checked out..but it has to be done on a reguar basis and why take the chance? You said NOBODY HERE thinks that unprotected sex is safer than using a condom? Have you not read the entire thread? Or just my post? Yes there ARE some that do believe that..you yourself just asked why not have unprotected sex..was that a contradiction or just ignorance?

Yes, if someone knows they have an STD it would be incredibly stupid to have unprotected sex. It would be irresponsible on their behalf, and for all they know they could be exposing themselves to more diseases. I get that.

I was talking about committed, monogamous relationships, where both partners know they are clean. If neither partner is sleeping with other people, then STD's couldn't be introduced, and they wouldn't need to be checked regularly. Therefore, if those people want to have unprotected sex, I don't understand why they shouldn't. Please explain to me how you think there could be a risk involved there.

I said that nobody here thinks unprotected sex is safer than using a condom because I think you've misinterpreted their posts as you did mine. It's blatently obvious that unprotected sex is never safer than using a condom, but in the example I gave I think it would be just as safe because I don't think there would be a risk involved at all.

Finally, yes I have read the whole thread, with increasing levels of frustration. I really, truly, honestly don't understand why you can't concede that unprotected sex between monogamous, clean partners is not going to be a risk to them. From where would either one catch an STD?

[eddievanzant]

BECAUSE SHE'S FUCKING CRAZY!!!!!!!!

I don't know if you replied knowing this or not, but all the stuff in the post you replied to was said to twist your words, insult you, and avoid answering anything.

[eddievanzant]

no condom?
Not all people use condoms.



Only Shelbay would think this implies that I condone unprotected sex. It's a fact that not all people use condoms and she was bored so she changed the subject.

[psychocat]

I am in no way a fan of tribal lower back tats, they are as common as muck.
Originality is what tats are about, yet every second girl you see with lower back tats has some piece of shit second rate wrought iron lookalike squiggle.

These 2 are perfect examples of what I think is a waste of ink.

[eddievanzant]

Whose back is that?

[psychocat]

Whose back is that?

I'll be fucked if I know, they were random pics.

[Shelbay]

Yes, if someone knows they have an STD it would be incredibly stupid to have unprotected sex. It would be irresponsible on their behalf, and for all they know they could be exposing themselves to more diseases. I get that.

I was talking about committed, monogamous relationships, where both partners know they are clean. If neither partner is sleeping with other people, then STD's couldn't be introduced, and they wouldn't need to be checked regularly. Therefore, if those people want to have unprotected sex, I don't understand why they shouldn't. Please explain to me how you think there could be a risk involved there.

I said that nobody here thinks unprotected sex is safer than using a condom because I think you've misinterpreted their posts as you did mine. It's blatently obvious that unprotected sex is never safer than using a condom, but in the example I gave I think it would be just as safe because I don't think there would be a risk involved at all.

Finally, yes I have read the whole thread, with increasing levels of frustration. I really, truly, honestly don't understand why you can't concede that unprotected sex between monogamous, clean partners is not going to be a risk to them. From where would either one catch an STD?
Studies by the Global Health Organization alone show that the practice of monogamy within hetersexual as well as in gay and lesbian partnerships over the past 20 years found that at least 37% of men and 29% of women have engaged in unprotected sex outside their "monogamus" relationship. It is also a fact than many people that do cheat on their committed partner admit to having unprotected sex with others and will not confess to their betrayal. There are many links if you would me to post them..or you could just google and there is MUCH more info on this subject if you have a true interest..also when some people do enter into a monogamous relationship and do not stray..there have been cases of them testing negative initially then upon retesting were positive..and unknowingly passed the infection to their partner. People will and do lie and cheat in a monogamous relationship..then stay silent..knowing they have exposed not only betrayal on the emotional level but on the physical level also to others..that is a fact. You need to seriously consider doing more research on the monogamous issue and HIV/AIDS..its considered an actual barrier in preventing the spreading of this disease. There ARE 4 steps given in having unprotected sex..but after you finish the 4th one that says to repeat step 1 if starting a new relationship....kind of puts a damper on trusting someone with your life imo. Almost forgot..women that are raped and do not report it..they also stay silent. The only way I "concede" on having unprotected sex in a monogamous relationship would to be tested for 10 straight years after marriage/commitment..but thats just me. Your post was great imo..logical question and valid viewpoint..thanks.

[Shelbay]

Ed..get over it..your not even posting because of the subject here..we go back correct..you know and I know..thats your hangup not mine. And your new sig with my name..could you not do better than that childish stunt? Now take your lithium or whatever meds your supposed to be on and double them..no triple them...;) Figured out "chisel" yet..:thumbsup:

[eddievanzant]

Ed..get over it..your not even posting because of the subject here.. If by that you mean that I'm not posting in here because you have pwned me or something, my excuse is that I have to sleep sometime and I can't reply to all your posts immediately. If you're saying that I'm getting off topic, that isn't true. You're the one who got off topic immediately.

we go back correct..you know and I know..thats your hangup not mine.
The way you post is so stupid. I've heard that people write in the way they speak, and I hope you don't speak like this because it's annoying as hell just to read your posts because of all the dot dot dots and whatnot. You are the one with a grudge, not me, because you are the one who began the insults. Before that it was just another debate with another person.

And your new sig with my name..could you not do better than that childish stunt? No, with the lack of control over these boards I have, I could do no better; except for maybe making a thread about how much you suck. I would do that, but it seems it has already been done: http://boards.cannabis.com/showthread.php?t=52684&highlight=shelbay

Now take your lithium or whatever meds your supposed to be on and double them..no triple them... If I took a poll among all the memebers of this board, I'd bet my allergy medication that most would agree you are closer to being diagnosed with depression than I am.

;) Figured out "chisel" yet..:thumbsup: Because you are so ashamed of yourself for using that word incorrectly that you refused to tell me what you meant by it, I chose to look it up myself and found one definition other than the obvious stone related verb, which is to cheat, and looking at the context of your post I have concluded that you used it completely wrong; therefore, you suck.

I'm still laughing at my own signature because it's just so damn funny.

Though you never really replied to anyone in the way they requested and always resorted to namecalling and word twisting, you eventually said that unprotected sex is okay as long as it's between a couple that's been together with no STDs for ten years, contradicting your original statement that condoms should be used all the time. Ha!

[birdgirl73]

Hey, Eddie. I didn't know where else to to leave this, so I'll post it here because I figure you'll get onto this post again. If you get a chance, drop me a quick email at [email protected] so I can reply to you! Thanks! (Fear not. I'm a reasonable person.)

[Shelbay]

ED..you seem heck bent on a popularity contest on this board threatening a poll.go for it..I already lived through one..do your best..anything but your childish sig..you crave attention from me lol. Would have played with you again sooner but server busy is going strong today:D Spin my posts anyway you want..as long as I keep you in view..will have to get back with you later..just so you understand..you will not divert me..I know and you know..right?:thumbsup:...oh and to clear things up for you..there is no contradiction on my stance of unprotected sex..you really should learn to read the entire post and stop your spin on word play okay..There is a huge difference between being asked my VIEWPOINT and the FACTS on HIV/AIDS..get your insults right boy!;)

[Psycho4Bud]

This thread is closed. Everybody chill and remember the wonders of the ignore option!

Have a good one!:thumbsup: