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lateralus
05-09-2006, 02:18 PM
What do you think of being a parent and keeping your smoking habits?

I have an ongoing conversation with someone, who will remain nameless, about whether or not keeping your habits when entering a parenting lifestyle is a responsible decision. I don't smoke anymore, but I know one day I'll likely give in and get it going again. I figured that if I ever had kids, I'd just keep the smoke private, and use all my known and practiced techniques to completely illiminate the smoke/smell factor (thanks to the spoof, a.k.a. doobtube), so as to not corrupt the lungs or brain of the child. Of course, you'd also need to definitely think through the times you're going to be smoking, as when the kid begins to grow up, you're going to have to drive him/her to this function and that, to soccer practice and the friend's sleepover, etc.

The person I'm having the conversation with, however, disagrees, stating that smoking at all (even though he/she used to be quite the heavy smoker) and being a parent at the same time is completely irresponsible, and when the time comes to become a parent, the potential dad or mom should put fun behind and really get serious.

I'd like to hear whatever anyone has to say, especially the slightly older crowd who've needed to ponder this before. I know you're out there!

king kong bong
05-09-2006, 02:21 PM
lateralus stalks me in my sleep...

lateralus
05-09-2006, 02:27 PM
How heterosexual. :cool:

king kong bong
05-09-2006, 02:32 PM
i just noticed on your greets im like the only one still around.

ScarlettCrush
05-09-2006, 02:33 PM
I think to remain a reasonable person, fairly fun parent and suitable mate I will continue to smoke after I have children. I've talked to him about it, and we intend to keep it very limited, however I am a medical user so that opens different doors.
I would not smoke while pregnant though, too risky.

lateralus
05-09-2006, 02:33 PM
i just noticed on your greets im like the only one still around.
Yeah, I noticed that too - I'm thinking, WHOA there're a lot of newbies since I've been gone, and where the hell is everybody on my signature? Better change it - oh well, no, I'm much too lazy for that.

king kong bong
05-09-2006, 02:35 PM
as for the kids thing um if i have a kid im tryin to decide if i should send him to school or home school em. i'm leanin towards the latter.

lateralus
05-09-2006, 02:37 PM
I think to remain a reasonable person, fairly fun parent and suitable mate I will continue to smoke after I have children. I've talked to him about it, and we intend to keep it very limited, however I am a medical user so that opens different doors.
I would not smoke while pregnant though, too risky.Sounds reasonable, and I agree with witholding during pregnancy. Damn near anything a woman does can damage that poor baby, eh? Heh.

First I heard of 'fetal marijuana syndrome'. Then I heard that fetal marijuana syndrome is a myth, and the studies were conducted by amateurs, etc, but you can't be too sure. The sad fact is, we don't know for a fact whether the condition exists or not, because researchers all come up with different findings. What's the point?

ScarlettCrush
05-09-2006, 02:37 PM
home school= fucked up kids

lateralus
05-09-2006, 02:39 PM
as for the kids thing um if i have a kid im tryin to decide if i should send him to school or home school em. i'm leanin towards the latter.Teach that kid to read as soon as he can say 'The System Is A Sham'. He'll thank ya for it. :)

king kong bong
05-09-2006, 02:39 PM
regular school=fucked up kids not to mention brainwashed

king kong bong
05-09-2006, 02:40 PM
Teach that kid to read as soon as he can say 'The System Is A Sham'. He'll thank ya for it. :)

i will give him all my conspiracy books and teach him to handle weapons.

SensiRide
05-09-2006, 02:40 PM
Yes I will give up smoking weed before I become a mum. Weed drains me of energy and I'd like to be an active parent so it makes sense to stop. Not saying I'd never ever smoke it again, but not as much as I do now. Think I'd rather spend my money on my kids than on weed, just now I dont have any dependants so it doesnt really matter

lateralus
05-09-2006, 02:41 PM
regular school=fucked up kids not to mention brainwashed
Growing up in modern day society = fucked up kids

lateralus
05-09-2006, 02:44 PM
i will give him all my conspiracy books and teach him to handle weapons.That reminds me, you didn't happen to hear about the guy who broke into Nasa's network did you?

Alright, this guy is 40 years old, unemployed, stoner, ex system-administrator conspiracy theorist living in the U.K.. He hacks into the NASA computer network because he believes NASA has been researching anti-gravity aircraft, and is witholding it from the public, and thus slowing down the world's technological progress. He wanders around the network for weeks, when one day the F.B.I. or something finds out and arrests him. People asked him what he saw in the network, and he responds something like "I don't know, I was smoking a lot of weed at that time." True story. :)

king kong bong
05-09-2006, 02:59 PM
yea i heard something bout that but i thought he was a bit younger. was it the one where he was living with his gf or something?

lateralus
05-09-2006, 02:59 PM
yea i heard something bout that but i thought he was a bit younger. was it the one where he was living with his gf or something?Yeah, and he broke into NASA in his bathrobe.

king kong bong
05-09-2006, 03:02 PM
yea i heard bout that one. he was goin hard when he was in their system. smokin pot and hackin, what a life.

lateralus
05-09-2006, 03:05 PM
Don't forget the bathrobe part.

And one day he'll be working for them. Or maybe that guy is Kong Bong. :eek:

Sauce
05-09-2006, 03:10 PM
I grew up with both parents smoking pot, dad grew and used it for medical use and mom smoked every once in awhile with friends i think if you just keep it private until they are mature enough to understand its use they should be fine

king kong bong
05-09-2006, 03:11 PM
Don't forget the bathrobe part.

And one day he'll be working for them. Or maybe that guy is Kong Bong. :eek:

who blew my cover this time?

lateralus
05-09-2006, 03:18 PM
At least read the second one.

http://news.zdnet.co.uk/internet/security/0,39020375,39203033,00.htm
http://news.yahoo.com/s/nm/20060427/sc_nm/security_britain_hacker_dc_1
I grew up with both parents smoking pot, dad grew and used it for medical use and mom smoked every once in awhile with friends i think if you just keep it private until they are mature enough to understand its use they should be fineYes, but that brings up another interesting question: what then? Do you tell your kids the truth about your usage? Hide it from them? Stop? Use marijuana as an incentive for good grades? ;)

rowjimy
05-09-2006, 03:18 PM
i have never lied to my kids about drugs or the fact that i use them ...my oldest son is 14 and i have smoked in front of him since he was born ..he knows that i use for medical reasons... and that it is not to be discussed outside the home... because it is no one elses buisness how our family deals with medical issue's.... he knows that i also use for recreational purposes. and that is also no body's buisness....he has been told he can smoke at home with me or his mom when he turns 16 .IF he maintains a 3.5 GPA otherwise he has to wait till he is 18...since he has been raised around pot smokers all his life it is no big deal to him...as it should not be..it's just a plant... so i really doubt he will start till he is older if ever...he also understands that any use of drugs other than cannibis will result in a severe beating and will never be tolerated in our family using cannibis while raising a family is no differant than using alcohol /caffeine/chocolate /tobaco or any other mild mood altering substance..until people realize that cannibis is just as harmless as caffiene or chocolate and safer than alcohol and nicotine we will always have people who will be brain washed into believing that a parent who uses mild intoxicants are not as good as parents who have become monks just because they now have a couple of rugrats running around the house

MaryJaneintheCloset
05-09-2006, 03:21 PM
i have never lied to my kids about drugs or the fact that i use them ...my oldest son is 14 and i have smoked in front of him since he was born ..he knows that i use for medical reasons... and that it is not to be discussed outside the home... because it is no one elses buisness how our family deals with medical issue's.... he knows that i also use for recreational purposes. and that is also no body's buisness....he has been told he can smoke at home with me or his mom when he turns 16 .IF he maintains a 3.5 GPA otherwise he has to wait till he is 18...since he has been raised around pot smokers all his life it is no big deal to him...as it should not be..it's just a plant... so i really doubt he will start till he is older if ever...he also understands that any use of drugs other than cannibis will result in a severe beating and will never be tolerated in our family using cannibis while raising a family is no differant than using alcohol /caffeine/chocolate /tobaco or any other mild mood altering substance..until people realize that cannibis is just as harmless as caffiene or chocolate and safer than alcohol and nicotine we will always have people who will be brain washed into believing that a parent who uses mild intoxicants are not as good as parents who have become monks just because they now have a couple of rugrats running around the house

You're awesome. :)

SensiRide
05-09-2006, 03:24 PM
until people realize that cannibis is just as harmless as caffiene or chocolate and safer than alcohol and nicotine we will always have people who will be brain washed into believing that a parent who uses mild intoxicants are not as good as parents who have become monks just because they now have a couple of rugrats running around the house

I dont believe that at all. In fact, parents that smoke weed are probably a lot more open minded and better communicators than parents (like mine) who are totally anti drugs therefore encouraging their children to keep secrets from them
Personally, I cant really be bothered with people when Im stoned so I can imagine being pissed off with crying babies around, just think I'd cope better sober

I like your views though, its good to be open with your children

KEGS
05-09-2006, 03:32 PM
I think with little ones around you have to watch them 24/7
I don't Know how old your kid's are just smoke when you put them to bed
Or a little when they nap.I just would not smoke in front of the kid's
Maryjane you sound like a good parent

lateralus
05-09-2006, 03:33 PM
i have never lied to my kids about drugs or the fact that i use them ...my oldest son is 14 and i have smoked in front of him since he was born ..he knows that i use for medical reasons... and that it is not to be discussed outside the home... because it is no one elses buisness how our family deals with medical issue's.... he knows that i also use for recreational purposes. and that is also no body's buisness....he has been told he can smoke at home with me or his mom when he turns 16 .IF he maintains a 3.5 GPA otherwise he has to wait till he is 18...since he has been raised around pot smokers all his life it is no big deal to him...as it should not be..it's just a plant... so i really doubt he will start till he is older if everThat sounds good. How about your spouse's family? Do they know? Their reaction?

I wonder about a spouse's family's reaction. I believe that reputation is important, and I don't think I've been with anyone whose family wasn't at least moderately critical. I'd be worried that keeping the knowledge of the fact that I was keeping a smoking habit on the low would be hard to confine to my household. And, I believe that keeping said knowledge private is important, because later on, other parents could find out, and you could find yourself in a potentially very awkward position, or you'd find that you, or your kids, had been harshly judged by people whose noses should've been kept in their own affairs.

welshkillabee
05-09-2006, 03:34 PM
i have never lied to my kids about drugs or the fact that i use them ...my oldest son is 14 and i have smoked in front of him since he was born ..he knows that i use for medical reasons... and that it is not to be discussed outside the home... because it is no one elses buisness how our family deals with medical issue's.... he knows that i also use for recreational purposes. and that is also no body's buisness....he has been told he can smoke at home with me or his mom when he turns 16 .IF he maintains a 3.5 GPA otherwise he has to wait till he is 18...since he has been raised around pot smokers all his life it is no big deal to him...as it should not be..it's just a plant... so i really doubt he will start till he is older if ever...he also understands that any use of drugs other than cannibis will result in a severe beating and will never be tolerated in our family using cannibis while raising a family is no differant than using alcohol /caffeine/chocolate /tobaco or any other mild mood altering substance..until people realize that cannibis is just as harmless as caffiene or chocolate and safer than alcohol and nicotine we will always have people who will be brain washed into believing that a parent who uses mild intoxicants are not as good as parents who have become monks just because they now have a couple of rugrats running around the house

Just how it should be, youre my hero dude :rasta:

friendowl
05-09-2006, 03:37 PM
im 29
i got 3 lil ones
my 9 year old boy got on honor roll
my 8 year old girl can do it all
my 2 year old is very very bright

i smoke all day every day in front of em
i blow the bong rip outside so they dont get smoked out
when they see me blaze they dont even care
there is no shock factor cuz im open about it
they know its wrong they wont smoke
when i come home grouchy my kids tell me
to go smoke so i can be cool
the funny thing is when i drink they get real mad
they hate alcohol but like weed
good kids

lateralus
05-09-2006, 03:41 PM
lol

rowjimy
05-09-2006, 03:54 PM
I dont believe that at all. In fact, parents that smoke weed are probably a lot more open minded and better communicators than parents (like mine) who are totally anti drugs therefore encouraging their children to keep secrets from them
Personally, I cant really be bothered with people when Im stoned so I can imagine being pissed off with crying babies around, just think I'd cope better sober

I like your views though, its good to be open with your children
moderation is the key ....i would never be tending to a newborn infant when stoned ....but a couple tokes to take the edge off in the AM for me and some others is a good thing ....for others it can be a problem... i very rarley get totally baked out of my mind any more ...except at say concerts or family get togethers ..after 30 + yrs of smoking.. getting super stoned every day has lost its lustre...A slight buzz is plenty for me now adays...as far as screaming babys go the next ones i hear will be my grandkids and that better not be for a few more yrs yet ..as my 3 kids are all in there early teens.but the weed did help give me patience when i had to deal with them screaming when they were still lil guys...one of my ex's felt the same way it made it ezer for her my other ex couldnt deal with the kids while buzzed ..i guess it comes down to whats best for the individual but hiding any thing from people you love and are close to can never produce any good results

rowjimy
05-09-2006, 03:57 PM
That sounds good. How about your spouse's family? Do they know? Their reaction?

I wonder about a spouse's family's reaction. I believe that reputation is important, and I don't think I've been with anyone whose family wasn't at least moderately critical. I'd be worried that keeping the knowledge of the fact that I was keeping a smoking habit on the low would be hard to confine to my household. And, I believe that keeping said knowledge private is important, because later on, other parents could find out, and you could find yourself in a potentially very awkward position, or you'd find that you, or your kids, had been harshly judged by people whose noses should've been kept in their own affairs.
yes they know my kids moms parents smoked when they were young and still do ocassionally as does my mom and my step dad did till he passed

rowjimy
05-09-2006, 04:01 PM
im 29
i got 3 lil ones
my 9 year old boy got on honor roll
my 8 year old girl can do it all
my 2 year old is very very bright

i smoke all day every day in front of em
i blow the bong rip outside so they dont get smoked out
when they see me blaze they dont even care
there is no shock factor cuz im open about it
they know its wrong they wont smoke
when i come home grouchy my kids tell me
to go smoke so i can be cool
the funny thing is when i drink they get real mad
they hate alcohol but like weed
good kids
yea i dont drink much any more but when i go to visit my oldest and his mom me and her will usually go out for drinks the night i get there so the next morn my boy will avoid me till i have had a soda and a joint to kill my hangover...he knows when i smoke im no differant than when i dont ..but if im hungover i cab be grouchy till it goes away

stangle12
05-09-2006, 04:27 PM
I grew up with smoking parents. But god damn they were good at hiding that shit. it didnt affect me once so ever. i didnt even find out until i was like 13 and snooping in their room.
once i got to the age where i realized what things were, they put it completely out of sight. Actually i remember my dad rlling a joint when i was like...3. but thats it.
I know for a fact that they both quit, but it wasnt for parenting reasons. they just wanted to feel healthier.

so becuase of this, i will probably follow in the same footsteps. Keeping personal stashes here and there. Quitely smoking before bed as they did and passing out to wonderful dreams after a hard days work.

MaryJaneintheCloset
05-09-2006, 04:31 PM
Keeping personal stashes here and there. Quitely smoking before bed as they did and passing out to wonderful dreams after a hard days work.

Sooooo true. :)

Fengzi
05-09-2006, 05:17 PM
I've got a two year old little girl and I still smoke. I've been smoking for close to 25 years though and, like rowjimmy so excellently put it, "getting super stoned every day has lost its lustre". I had actually stopped smoking for about 5 years a while back but started again a few years ago when it was suggested I try it for medical purposes, to help relieve pain from back spasms that flare up every few months.

Other than for medical purposes, I mostly I just get high at night, after my daughter has gone to bed. Sometimes I'll have a drink instead. Sometimes both ;) Just something to help me relax at the end of a long day. I don't have the type of job where I could get high at work and even on weekends I'm usually so busy doing yardwork or running errands I just don't have time to be baked all day. Every now and then I'll take a day off from work to just stay at home by myself and I'll usually wait until these times to get really, really high.

I'm almost never high around my daughter and never get high in front of her. I don't think there is anything inherently wrong with it and am not trying to hide anything from her. It's just that when I'm spending time with her she is the focus of my attention. And, I can honestly say I enjoy sitting on the floor with her, playing with playdough or having a tea party, more than I enjoy getting high. The only exception is that I will occaisionally get high just before I read her bedtime stories. I can get into the story a bit more and get a bit goofy which she seems to enjoy.

When you become a parent you have to make a lot of sacrifices. I don't think that smoking and being a parent are two things which have to conflict with each other, however. When you have a child you have to alter your previous lifestyle but not give it up completely. Being a parent and getting high every now and then is no worse than being a parent and going to excercise. If you're an excercise freak, however, and do it so much that you ignore your children, that is just as bad as a parent who gets high all the time and ignores their kids.

dog420
05-09-2006, 05:28 PM
I have 3 kids, they still not old enough to know what i smoke. I try to keep my smoking weed till they have gone to bed, or at the weekends i'll go in the garden.

Yes they have seen it, yes they have asked questions and yes they say it makes my eyes go funny. I tell them there are lots of diff. type of ciggs :)

Peace and good luck us stoner mum's and dad's!

napolitana869
05-09-2006, 05:48 PM
thank you to all of you who have kids and smoke or who have had parents that smoked when you were growing up. I smoke every day part for fun and part for medical use and what im going to do once i have kids have been a big question in my mind. It's nice to know that it can be done in a way that wont harm my kids growing up.

25yrsmoker
05-09-2006, 06:19 PM
i have never lied to my kids about drugs or the fact that i use them ...my oldest son is 14 and i have smoked in front of him since he was born ..he knows that i use for medical reasons... and that it is not to be discussed outside the home... because it is no one elses buisness how our family deals with medical issue's.... he knows that i also use for recreational purposes. and that is also no body's buisness....he has been told he can smoke at home with me or his mom when he turns 16 .IF he maintains a 3.5 GPA otherwise he has to wait till he is 18...since he has been raised around pot smokers all his life it is no big deal to him...as it should not be..it's just a plant... so i really doubt he will start till he is older if ever...he also understands that any use of drugs other than cannibis will result in a severe beating and will never be tolerated in our family using cannibis while raising a family is no differant than using alcohol /caffeine/chocolate /tobaco or any other mild mood altering substance..until people realize that cannibis is just as harmless as caffiene or chocolate and safer than alcohol and nicotine we will always have people who will be brain washed into believing that a parent who uses mild intoxicants are not as good as parents who have become monks just because they now have a couple of rugrats running around the house
you are so right its always good to be honest to your kids about what you do, and people need to understand that, ive been smoking for 27 yrs i started at 12 ill be 39 in a few days and i have a 4 yr old daughter people need to understand it should be do as i say not as i do when they are kids until theyre ready to become an adult and make thier own decisions then the choice will be thiers peace to you and yours

Sauce
05-09-2006, 11:13 PM
Yes, but that brings up another interesting question: what then? Do you tell your kids the truth about your usage? Hide it from them? Stop? Use marijuana as an incentive for good grades? ;)

Yeah my dad convinced me when i was young that he grew and used medical marijuana for his back and my grandfathers stroke. Mom came out the closet when i started high school and i've never really had problems myself with it. I think its best to be honest when they are mature enough to understand its use. Just keep it private if you wish, haha incentive for good grades that lady is facing some charges aint she

halo
05-09-2006, 11:13 PM
I think its fine to an extent. The only problem is its illegal. If they caught you doing that they could say you were being a bad parent and take your kids away. So if you are 110% sure there is absolutely no way you could get caught. Then maybe. Otherwise no.

JMRinFLA
05-10-2006, 02:08 AM
The same people who believe that parents who toke are irresponsible, think nothing of relaxing in the evening with a glass of wine or a bottle of beer. People are predisposed to the notion that all drugs are evil. Except that is, the one's they themselves indulge in! Smoking pot is not an indicator of parenting skills.

O.K. I'll get off my high horse now!

puffpuffand away
05-10-2006, 02:11 AM
SensiRide...u have a great out look on this matter...you realize that ur kid,s will have 2 come first...i think ud make a great mother...

rowjimy
05-10-2006, 02:27 AM
The same people who believe that parents who toke are irresponsible, think nothing of relaxing in the evening with a glass of wine or a bottle of beer. People are predisposed to the notion that all drugs are evil. Except that is, the one's they themselves indulge in! Smoking pot is not an indicator of parenting skills.

O.K. I'll get off my high horse now!
Smoking pot is not an indicator of parenting skills. VERY WELL SAID
thats like saying people who eat meat are bad parents or parents who drive over the speed limit or exposing there kids to organized religion are endangering them ..If we want to continue to live in a free society we are going to have to accept that some people are going to raise their lil ones differantly than others ...besides it would be very boring if all kids turned out the same

JunkYard
05-10-2006, 02:32 AM
I watched Half Baked with my son the other night...He thought it was hillarious!

Even so, I refuse to smoke around him...cigs, or MJ. The second hand smoke can't be good for him, so...

birdgirl73
05-10-2006, 03:35 AM
I'm weighing in sorta late on this issue, but I've been thinking about my answer. When they're little kids or teenagers, I really think I'd either not smoke at all or keep it totally something I did in private and the child would never know about. Even so, you never know what they see or overhear, and kids tend to repeat things and blab things their parents say without any sort of hesitation. I didn't smoke when my son was growing up. Was busy doing other soccer mom stuff and being a responsible, clean parent.

Now things are a little different. He's in college. I'm home and his father and I are taking care of his aunt (my sister), who in in chemo and having a rough time. I've told him honestly that I got some weed to help her, and next time he's home, if he asks, I'll answer honestly that yes, I've smoked with her. Still not sure if I'll come out and tell him that up front. I guess I still feel like I have that "mom" image to maintain.

I think it's always good to err on the side of discretion and caution where kids and their sensitivities are concerned.

JMRinFLA
05-10-2006, 09:32 PM
I certainly agree with not smoking around the kids. I wouldn't do it. But a parent should feel comfortable relaxing with a little smoke at the appropriate times.

VoidLivesOn
05-10-2006, 09:37 PM
So thats where you went off to? Quit smoking? How come and where ya been?

geonagual
05-10-2006, 09:50 PM
I have 2 kids. One is turning into a teenager in a few days. I have never been dishonest with my children about anything. Why would I be on this matter? Just be honest and ALWAYS keep your lines of communication open.

Stoner Shadow Wolf
05-10-2006, 09:53 PM
What do you think of being a parent and keeping your smoking habits?

I have an ongoing conversation with someone, who will remain nameless, about whether or not keeping your habits when entering a parenting lifestyle is a responsible decision. I don't smoke anymore, but I know one day I'll likely give in and get it going again. I figured that if I ever had kids, I'd just keep the smoke private, and use all my known and practiced techniques to completely illiminate the smoke/smell factor (thanks to the spoof, a.k.a. doobtube), so as to not corrupt the lungs or brain of the child. Of course, you'd also need to definitely think through the times you're going to be smoking, as when the kid begins to grow up, you're going to have to drive him/her to this function and that, to soccer practice and the friend's sleepover, etc.

The person I'm having the conversation with, however, disagrees, stating that smoking at all (even though he/she used to be quite the heavy smoker) and being a parent at the same time is completely irresponsible, and when the time comes to become a parent, the potential dad or mom should put fun behind and really get serious.

I'd like to hear whatever anyone has to say, especially the slightly older crowd who've needed to ponder this before. I know you're out there!


responsability is the ability to respond with maturity to any situation.

if your situation includes pot smoking and parenting, you can be responsable by teaching your children, and teaching them not to get caught ;) ;) lol

but seriously, responsability is subject to the results of your actions, not nessacarily the actions you take.


irresponsable actions that lead to no irresponsable results negates the so called "irresponsable" actions.