The rest of the worlds thoughts on bush

[Sedater18]

Hey, there is alot of controversy over here about the most powerful man in the world being: George Bush :eek: . I want to know what the rest of of you guys think that aren't from America think about the 'ole GW. Anyone over in canada or the UK (or anywhere else if you can speaka teh engalisha) want to say anything? AMERICANS NO BITCHING ON THIS THREAD!!! :mad:

[Tonee4130]

I watched the 9/11 conspirices and I think he is apart of the things that happened...

[Button Basher]

I'm British and I hate him. All I see in his face are lies and deception. It's obvious the guy is uneducated, untrustworthy and manipulative and it's sad that America has someone like that for a president. I honestly can't understand why some Americans truly believe he is a good man, looking out for the wellbeing of his country, then again your a funny lot :D .

As for the rest of the UK, obviously I can't speak for the entire population but everyone i've spoken to agrees. Suffice to say, America isn't the most popular of countries over here and most people couldn't give a shite whats happening with it, or it's president. I'm interested to know whether Americans are aware of that :P .

[Dingo]

I'm australian.. and in my opinion george bush .. deserves to rot in hell and die.. so do alot of americans. "america is the greatest nation in the world " ( george bush) SUCK MY DICK... america is a shit for brick country .

[Imotep]

I'm australian.. and in my opinion george bush .. deserves to rot in hell and die.. so do alot of americans. "america is the greatest nation in the world " ( george bush) SUCK MY DICK... america is a shit for brick country .

He's fucked. Havent u heard? the whole world hates america for one reason or another. :eek:

[sawleaf]

Yeah I am anti-bush also. I think he has brought even more hate on the US. Most of us Americans know that the world hates us, but we don't care. lol

[Imotep]

Yeah I am anti-bush also. I think he has brought even more hate on the US. Most of us Americans know that the world hates us, but we don't care. lol

so why do yous act so surprised and outraged when the jihad fires burn?

[Libertarian Toker]

"America isn't the most popular of countries over here and most people couldn't give a shite whats happening with it, or it's president."

Oh really? Is that why your posting about the US and it's prez? England is kind of our Lap dog. Here boy, sit, roll over boy. Now be a good boy, and do as the Bushy says. You Aussie's are the same way. Can't do a thing unless you seek our approval first. What a bunch of pussy's you guys are to let another country control you like that. If so many of your country's people hate US, why do your governments still deal with US?

"AMERICANS NO BITCHING ON THIS THREAD!!!"

One of the cool things about the US is that we can, and do, say what ever the hell we want to. Why do you need rules for your hate speech? Are you scared that some Americans will defend their country and it's people?

"deserves to rot in hell and die.. so do alot of americans."

So do a lot of English, Aussie's, russians, and so on and so on. Hey, but why just stop at words, you guys are a tough lot, why don't you actualy do something about US instead of just sitting around whining and crying to each other about how awful the US is?

"the whole world hates america for one reason or another."

I see! Well, I would like to just take your word for it on that, but the evidence says otherwise. People are dying to get here. They risk it all for a chance in the US. Yep, I guess that would be my first choice of things to do. Risk it all to go to a country I hate. Your theory that the whole world hates the US is flawed. I'm thinking some hate US, and some don't. If it makes ya feel better to think that the "whole world" hates the US, I suppose it would be ok, but if the truth is what you like you had better look again at the world you say hates US.

The US, for the short time it has been around, gives more to the world then any other country. As a matter of fact, we are the most giving people on this planet. Many more would die without US in the world, then would die with US in the world. The people of the US come from all over the world. They are the world. If you hate US, then you hate the world. Some of you will claim it is only the "government" that you hate, but it is all to clear that the American color of our skin is what's hated by the ones that do hate US. That includes you guys.

Toker

[sawleaf]

so why do yous act so surprised and outraged when the jihad fires burn?

You wouldn't be outraged if your country was attacked and innocent people were killed????

[Sedater18]

no arguing

[Libertarian Toker]

no arguing


So we are only aloud to agree that Americans should rot in hell and die? I don't agree with that man. I think anyone should be able to say their opinion without censorship, self or otherwise, not just ones that agree with your warped view of the world. When someone claims Americans should rot in hell and die, no little whimpy "no arguing" reply is going to do a damn thing to silence me.

Toker

[Imotep]

You wouldn't be outraged if your country was attacked and innocent people were killed????

Yep and when the indos stop bombing hotels over there and start up on our cities I'll be fuming, but not surprised.
This whole war on terror thing is being escalated by our involvement in the coalition of the willing.
yes Oz is a US lapdog and its fucking sickening. we're the 53rd state.

[Sedater18]

One of the cool things about the US is that we can, and do, say what ever the hell we want to. Why do you need rules for your hate speech? Are you scared that some Americans will defend their country and it's people?


I said not to bitch because I dont care about other americans opinions right now, im trying to find out what other peoples thoughts are on the us. Whether they are wrong and full of shit or not doesn't matter right now because that what they think about us. I just want to hear first opinions , if they are wrong and you can convince them of that later doesn't matter , its first opinions. If I walk into my school's main hall with all the adults and teachers and shit, and when they see my long hair marley shirt, my eyes, the way I walk and the way I talk they think "oh he's stoned" to themselves even when im not stoned. I could sit there and argue about if im stoned or not, or I can do what I usually do and just think to myself "fucking bitch, that bitch is fucking dumb dude" and keep walking. I can make a thread about americas thoughts on other countries later, even tho some asshole will say dumb shit on it.

[Imotep]

us dumb arseholes got no-where else to go sob.

[Libertarian Toker]

us dumb arseholes got no-where else to go sob.

I'm an asshole myself. I'm always happy to meet another asshole. Glad to meet ya! Say, the person running this thread may be an asshole too. Do ya think we should let em join the club?

Toker

[GHoSToKeR]

I'm an asshole myself. I'm always happy to meet another asshole. Glad to meet ya! Say, the person running this thread may be an asshole too. Do ya think we should let em join the club?

Toker
lol Toker

Right, America. Course I don't hate it.. I disagree with certain decisions the Bush Administration has made, and some of their policies ie the war on drugs. I also disagree with alot of decisions Tony Blairs government has made, ie the war on drugs lol but i dont hate Britain..

What I do hate, is when people fight and argue over territory, and get into arguements over whos country is the best. Thanks to the internet, we can make friends, communication with people, do business, shop etc all over the world, but at the same time countries are becoming more devided.. sometimes I wish I could live on the moon, just me, some weed and a dog, away from all this fighting and argueing over territory, politics, religion etc.. do you guys really think we were put here to kill eachother and to seperate away from eachother like this? We all look the same, no matter where we're from.. try and remember that the next time you say you hate a country or someone of a different race or nationality..

[Sedater18]

the person running this thread may be an asshole too

*dickhead

[Imotep]

In the spirit of international harmony, dickheads will be henceforth entitled all benefits enjoyed by arseholes. :D
Nice to meet ya Toker.

[Libertarian Toker]

In the spirit of international harmony, dickheads will be henceforth entitled all benefits enjoyed by arseholes. :D
Nice to meet ya Toker.

Damn, that was close. I thought I had lost my membership in the asshole club there for a minute. That dude is no asshole. He seems like more of a wanker then anything else. An asshole would have more respect for assholishness then he does. If we let him in the club, it can only be for a probationary period so he can prove his assholishness is worthy of the club.

Toker

[Ed Ward MD]

Bragging about being asses. Where can I vote for that party. Wow, great branch for the libers, the personal attack proud of being asses division of the libertarian party. oh, that is kinds redundant. Hey, I really hate bush/kerry. Think you would like to be the demo/repub/liber toker? Proud constituents like yourself are really valuable. I think you should benefit them with your personal political expertise. Please continue to help the liber party, you are bound to be a huge draw for them and also consider helping the demo/repubs. The People need all the help they can get.

Ed.

[Libertarian Toker]

Yep, that's me. A proud Libertarian Asshole. What is your fixation with me dude? Are you mad about something? Did I piss in your wheaties or something? You seem kind of hostile, and negitive. Libertarians, like everyone else, are individuals. Get it? If one is an asshole, that doesn't mean they are all that way. I can see where a small mind would think that way though. Do you have a small mind?

Toker

[GHoSToKeR]

Yep, that's me. A proud Libertarian Asshole. What is your fixation with me dude? Are you mad about something? Did I piss in your wheaties or something? You seem kind of hostile, and negitive. Libertarians, like everyone else, are individuals. Get it? If one is an asshole, that doesn't mean they are all that way. I can see where a small mind would think that way though. Do you have a small mind?

Toker
lol Lib Toker, u never fail to make me laugh man, thanks :D

and assholishness is a great word... im gonna use it more often

[Ed Ward MD]

That doesn't mean they all were. Please consider helping the 'crats as well as the libers.

The nazies, now their is a group of fun guys. All proud to be asses. But, that doesn't mean they were all bad.

Fixated? And I thought I was just responding to repeated personal attacks, you know like the one prior to this message. You know the funny kind of personal attacks. When out of facts, try the personal attacks. Now that is my kinda party.

Ed

[Libertarian Toker]

I guess that would mean your out of fact since your on to personal attacks. LOL! Nazi's also thought of themselves as activist. Gee, now there is a group of fun guys.

"I was just responding to repeated personal attacks"

I believe you made a post to me? A special post for me. I like em, it shows care and courage. I'm sorry you find my reply insulting. It does make it easier for you to ignore my questions to you though, doesn't it?

I truely hope you will reconsider running off with your tail between your legs, I am enjoying the laughs, and I hope to continue them with you. Don't go man, it will make you look like a whimp.

Toker

[The C]

say what ever the hell we want to. \


..We Candadianishes' brned down your white hosue so stf,
No ones liek americans, say sumthign to piuss us off and we may do it again.

We may not have numebrs but anyone who hits canada is fucking dead im sure. How many ememies do we h8ave, shit knows all we do in wars is send people supplies!

Common evyeorne owes us an outstretched hand. I supose anyhow. We have mroe troops in teh U.N then in our own damn army tho. lol!

Seriously tho. America is goign to fall apart fomr the inside out if anyhting, common juts look at their homocides and shit. The poeple are on the verge of cracking, eachclingign to a stereoype for reassurance. Thats why the "hype" is so great there, a large amjority of their peopel are on the verge of cracking. Juist look at how the shit country acts and how shit the poeple are becomming.

Always fighitng outter wars, igrnoring whats on the inside.

Just my opinion.

Cesar.

[The C]

Lib ur a fuckign funyn guy

[Libertarian Toker]

"..We Candadianishes' brned down your white hosue so stf,
No ones liek americans, say sumthign to piuss us off and we may do it again."

You mean your not pissed off already? Somehow I doubt that you would be burning much now-a-days. You have grown a little to whimpy. It's ok, you can revisit that point in history all you want if it makes you feel like a big tough Canada. Of course if the US wanted to, we could walk in and take canada in a matter of days. More then likely without a fight. There is something about about a bunch of unarmed, anti-war whimps without an army that just screams power to burn down the white house. Yep, I'm sure your threat has the white house up in arms. They are working as we speak to try and keep from pissing off Canada to save the whitehouse.

"Juist look at how the shit country acts and how shit the poeple are becomming."

Yep, it's even rubbing off on the shit people in the shit countrys around US. They are just like US. They claim to be different, but they are just as shitty as US. Maybe even shittier.

Toker

[The C]

HEy sumoen knowcked down the twin towers why not the white huse? Got knows we have more planes then any "terrorists" We'll except the United Shits... ha ah that may be a bit low but w/e.

W/e man. Were not mass homicide inciting, bullying motha fuckers.

We may not be armed to hte hilts or anythign, and no we woudlnt fight back, we'd just continue on the way we always had, and vote party's whcihc seem most candain, so even if u really take us over, being open minded we'll jsut vote party's wiht candain leaders.... so takign us over woudl really accompish nothing.

[Libertarian Toker]

"Were not mass homicide inciting, bullying motha fuckers."

At least not until your pissed off. Hell, then you can even beat up the US, right? I was watching the news from Canada the other day, and it would seem that you do have quit a few homicidal people up there. Canada is not a perfect utopia after all is it? Let's see, you have a drug war, you have homicidal people on killing sprees, and you are some of the most racist people on the planet, and so on and so forth. Yep, you guys have a lot to be proud of don't cha?

"HEy sumoen knowcked down the twin towers why not the white huse?"

Because Muslim terrorist have big balls, and canadians don't.

"We may not be armed to hte hilts or anythign, and no we woudlnt fight back, we'd just continue on the way we always had, and vote party's whcihc seem most canadian, so even if u really take us over, being open minded we'll jsut vote party's wiht candain leaders.... so takign us over woudl really accompish nothing."

Is it really open minded to just vote for canadians if that was the case? I'm thinking it is more of a closed mind if that mind can only see in one direction like that. Open minded, haha, that's a good one. When it come to the US, quit a few Canadians are as closed minded as people can get. They are equal to christian conservitives in closed mindedness. I find it rather amusing that some people like to call themselves "open minded" while exposing how closed their mind really is. Here is a question for ya. Is bushy 100% wrong?

Toker

[Sedater18]

I knew this would happen :mad: what next? maybe torog will post a couple paragraphs :rolleyes:

[Libertarian Toker]

I knew this would happen :mad: what next? maybe torog will post a couple paragraphs :rolleyes:

What did you expect to happen? Oh yeah, looks like this is exactly what you expected. Almost as if you knew this would happen when you made the original post. If you knew Americans would defend against attacks such as these, and that type of thing makes you mad and causes your eyes to roll around in your head, maybe you shouldn't have done it in the first place. If you post hatefull things, you can bet you will get replys to it that are not going to be in your favor. You can try, but you can't exclude US from speaking if we want to be heard. Good intentions or not, your mission is going to fail on a message board like this board if that mission is to bash the US without any kind of defence for the US. If you have a problem with me defending the US, well that's just to bad for you ain't it?

Toker

[Sedater18]

I never said I have a problem with you defending the U.S. I have a problem with you being and asshole about it. You're getting to riold up over opinions. What they said wasn't exactly that hateful. Just disagreeing with you.


You seem kind of hostile, and negitive.

almost every thread I have read by you is aggresive, hostile, and negative.
dont be such an asshole. There is a difference between being an asshole in a sort of kidding fashion and being an asshole. Y

[Ed Ward MD]

All great platforms when fighting for Rights from a hostile, aggressive, jerk assness of a similar government. How can that not be good for the cause of equality, justice and freedom.

Ed ;)

[Button Basher]

"America isn't the most popular of countries over here and most people couldn't give a shite whats happening with it, or it's president."

Oh really? Is that why your posting about the US and it's prez? England is kind of our Lap dog. Here boy, sit, roll over boy. Now be a good boy, and do as the Bushy says. You Aussie's are the same way. Can't do a thing unless you seek our approval first. What a bunch of pussy's you guys are to let another country control you like that. If so many of your country's people hate US, why do your governments still deal with US?

That's a good question! You could say if so many Americans hate Bush, why is he still your president.
This might shock your little mind but not a single Brit I know supported the war on Iraq. There's a rather large difference to how the government run this country and how the public rather it be ran. If it were the way of the people of Britain, we would've screwed up your invitation to go to war and thrown it in your face, whether we knew or not how much appreciated our help was.
Not that we can blame old Tony for sucking up to Bush. Had he declined, as he probably wished, you guys'd be at our throats right away as much as you are at Iraq's. America is like a bully you can't say no to. You're certainly the most powerful country in the world but it's only for your own selfish good, that's the only place your blind patriotism lies.

Anyway, don't get me wrong. I love Americans, I think they're a very friendly people, but the worlds a lot bigger then your country.

[Ed Ward MD]

And that is the way both countries are being looked at by the world. More so in the US, ya'll still have a free press of sorts. Ours has been dismantled. All the gov propaganda that is fit to print is all we get. US and UK both invaded a country based on lies, that is what happened, and that is what the world sees, where it is allowed to be seen. Both nations have been taken over by polical interests that have no real concerns over The People's Rights. All these FOREIGN Wars are Unconstitutional. Read the HBC for refs. War was relegated to Invasion of the US. That is it. No invasion, No War.

Ed :(

[Libertarian Toker]

"I have a problem with you being and asshole about it."

Theres not much you can do about that. You can whine and cry all day, but at the end of the day I will still be an asshole, and still be proud of it too.

"You're getting to riold up over opinions. What they said wasn't exactly that hateful. Just disagreeing with you."

Oh, I see. Then again, maybe I don't see. I don't see how you can say people that are saying they hate the US and that the people of the US should die is not being that hatefull. Oh well, maybe your right, and they are just dissagreeing with me when they say hatefull BS like;

"Juist look at how the shit country acts and how shit the poeple are becomming"

"I'm australian.. and in my opinion george bush .. deserves to rot in hell and die.. so do alot of americans. "america is the greatest nation in the world " ( george bush) SUCK MY DICK... america is a shit for brick country ."

"the whole world hates america for one reason or another."

Hatefull is the correct word in my opinion. Blind hate.

"almost every thread I have read by you is aggresive, hostile, and negative."

So is most of the stuff others posted. So what! I guess you think wishing for the death of people because of the country they live in is a positive thing. I don't mind negitive or hostile. As matter of fact, I enjoy it. It makes for more interesting threads. Why do you wish to control me, and my ways? Are they so effective that you feel a need to try and stop me?

"There is a difference between being an asshole in a sort of kidding fashion and being an asshole."

There is no doubt that I am a true asshole. Proud of it too.

Toker

[Libertarian Toker]

"All great platforms when fighting for Rights from a hostile, aggressive, jerk assness of a similar government. How can that not be good for the cause of equality, justice and freedom."

I'm thinking you need to try and make a little more sense with your replys man. Your starting to get a little far out there. It seems you think being a jerk, or an asshole, is not good for whatever cause you happen to be supporting. If this is the case, then why are you such a jerk? You know what the difference is between me and you? I can admit that I am an asshole, and you can't.

Toker

[Libertarian Toker]

"That's a good question! You could say if so many Americans hate Bush, why is he still your president."

That's a good counter question. The problem is that it doesn't answer the original question, and makes it look as if your trying to hide from the original question.

"This might shock your little mind but not a single Brit I know supported the war on Iraq."

This might shock your large mind, but I know some Brits that do support the war in Iraq.

"There's a rather large difference to how the government run this country and how the public rather it be ran."

I see! And you think that the way the US government is run is the way most Americans want it to be run?

" If it were the way of the people of Britain, we would've screwed up your invitation to go to war and thrown it in your face, whether we knew or not how much appreciated our help was."

If I was you, I would be more worried about this then I was about the US. You seem to be letting them fuck you, and all you can do is bitch about US. I would think that you would be more interested in fixing your problems, and that one seems to be a big one, then in seeing how insulting you can be to US. I suppose some peoples prioritys differ quite a bit. If you can't control your own government, what the hell are you doing trying to tell US about ours for?

"Not that we can blame old Tony for sucking up to Bush. Had he declined, as he probably wished, you guys'd be at our throats right away as much as you are at Iraq's."

Oh yeah, we had to twist his arm real hard. ROTFLMAO! You might kid yourself with that BS, but I ain't buying it.

"You're certainly the most powerful country in the world but it's only for your own selfish good, that's the only place your blind patriotism lies."

Blind patriotism comes in a lot of forms. Your excusing Tony is blind patriotism. More then mine is, that's for sure. I don't make excuses for bushy, as I don't think there is any that could excuse his abuses. Am I patriotic? Yes, I am, but not in the negitive way you try to portray it as.

"Anyway, don't get me wrong. I love Americans, I think they're a very friendly people, but the worlds a lot bigger then your country."

I love it when people think that their view of the world is so much grander then others based on where they come from. It shows a real maturity and open mindedness to assume they somehow see more of the world then others do. Way to build yourself up there man. I guess since your so worldly I will just have to take your word as gosple truth from now on.

I come across as an ass, but if you want to have a decent abuse free conversation, I can do that also. I prefer to talk with people that dissagree with me. You can learn from that. You can't learn from people that just agree with you.

Toker

[Sedater18]

I love it when people think that their view of the world is so much grander then others based on where they come from. It shows a real maturity and open mindedness to assume they somehow see more of the world then others do.

sounds like your talking about yourself there dude.



That's a good question! You could say if so many Americans hate Bush, why is he still your president.

because, some people still like him. Even tho more people dislike him, our so called democracy says that as long as a reasonable portion of us still accept him, then he will remain in office.


I come across as an ass, but if you want to have a decent abuse free conversation, I can do that also. I prefer to talk with people that dissagree with me. You can learn from that. You can't learn from people that just agree with you.


then why dont you start having an abuse free argument like I asked in the first place? I never started any shit with you. Chill out.

[Ed Ward MD]

Just here for BS nazi fun attacking anything that does not agree with nazi bs attitudes.

Ed

[GHoSToKeR]

i dont see how the nazi party has anything to do with this debate...

[Imotep]

Amen toker,
You can learn more from those that dont agree with you than those who do.
Its always interesting to me how blinded we do get by hate.
Me as much as anyone.
See how the other half live before you reckon youve got an opinion. :D

[Libertarian Toker]

Just here for BS nazi fun attacking anything that does not agree with nazi bs attitudes.

Ed

What facts do you want? I think your a little to quick with your auto reply button. You might want to back off it just a little until you know how to use it better. The way your using it now is making you seem rather silly to me.

Toker

[Button Basher]

"That's a good counter question. The problem is that it doesn't answer the original question, and makes it look as if your trying to hide from the original question."

I thought it was obvious. I'm posting about the Us because the original question was what are the rest of the worlds thoughts on Bush. Surely you havn't forgotten?

"I see! And you think that the way the US government is run is the way most Americans want it to be run?"

That's impossible for me to tell so the decent thing to do would be to simply not pass judgment on the topic. Oh wait, that's exactly what you did about Britain, despite, like most Americans, clearly knowing nothing about us, look ----> "England is kind of our Lap dog. Here boy, sit, roll over boy. Now be a good boy, and do as the Bushy says.". No your wrong, and i'm telling you for a fact. Most people would prefer the term 'ally' at the very least!

If I was you, I would be more worried about this then I was about the US. You seem to be letting them fuck you, and all you can do is bitch about US. I would think that you would be more interested in fixing your problems, and that one seems to be a big one, then in seeing how insulting you can be to US. I suppose some peoples prioritys differ quite a bit. If you can't control your own government, what the hell are you doing trying to tell US about ours for?

Because that was the original question you fucking dunce. I'll admit, I, like many people, have a few problems with the US government but in the long run, it really doesn't bother me. Like you rightly suggest, why should I be concerned about anyone elses government but my own? Well i'm telling you now i'm not. One can't help but be irritated by things that arn't their concern and the US government does irritate me, solely for the fact it's so full of shit but believe it or not I don't look around for some Americans to preach it to (I see your more the type for that, jumping into this thread and contradicting everyone because you've convinced yourself we're all wrong). In this case, I was asked, so I replied, but i'll sleap soundly tonight knowing that you and your problems are a million miles away. :D Believe that if you will!

"Oh yeah, we had to twist his arm real hard. ROTFLMAO!"

As if that has anything to do with the point I made.

Blind patriotism comes in a lot of forms. Your excusing Tony is blind patriotism. More then mine is, that's for sure. I don't make excuses for bushy, as I don't think there is any that could excuse his abuses. Am I patriotic? Yes, I am, but not in the negitive way you try to portray it as.

My apologies for jumping to conclusions!
I'm NOT a patriot by the way. I hate the UK with a passion. The stereotype might be that we're a peaceful, polite country that enjoys their tea but on the inside, we're just the fucking scrap yard of the world. Not that that's any of your concern so don't feel you need to comment on that.

"love it when people think that their view of the world is so much grander then others based on where they come from. It shows a real maturity and open mindedness to assume they somehow see more of the world then others do. Way to build yourself up there man. I guess since your so worldly I will just have to take your word as gosple truth from now on."

No you won't. I'm not a worldly person and never even suggested I was. I'm giving my feedback for the sake of the original topic (it's near the top of the screen if you've forgotten again) and to explain my attitude for you. I have my own view of the world with basis but I don't see it as grand. How can it be grand, look at what I just said about my own country :cool: !


"I come across as an ass, but if you want to have a decent abuse free conversation, I can do that also. I prefer to talk with people that dissagree with me. You can learn from that. You can't learn from people that just agree with you."

Well i'm not sure if you can have an, as you say, abuse free conversation. You were so quick to bad mouth everyone that had something negative to say about America (including myself) that it seems the theory that not all arguments have to be abusive hadn't passed you by. Notice my first post on this thread, then the one directly after it. I logged on and told myself i'd express my opinions (once again, for the sake of the topic) with as little a negative attitude as possible. Did you consider that before you bounded on with all the 'oh yeah? well moan, moan, grumble, how would you know, moan, complain'. I didn't insult America and I still havn't. A negative response isn't necessarily an insult, and you can't take every negative response AS an insult. Otherwise, you get this; an abusive slagging match that's barely an argument.

If your truly willing to have an abuse free discussion on this subject, then it's as easy as doing it. If you took my first post the wrong way then i'm telling you now that I had only the best intentions, if however, it's simply a case of you not being able to accept my opinion that why insult it? It's not going to change!

Peace.

[Sedater18]

you tell him button :cool:

[Libertarian Toker]

"I thought it was obvious. I'm posting about the Us because the original question was what are the rest of the worlds thoughts on Bush. Surely you havn't forgotten?"

No, I haven't forgotten. It would seem you, and most of the other bash the us crowd, have forgotten what the original question was though. It was indeed about bushy, not the US and who hated the US is. Nor was it a question on if the people of the US deserve to die. Since the original qestion was ignored, and the bashing started to be pointed at the people rather then Bushy before my first reply, I would have to say that staying on topic was already a thing of the past.

"That's impossible for me to tell so the decent thing to do would be to simply not pass judgment on the topic. Oh wait, that's exactly what you did about Britain, despite, like most Americans, clearly knowing nothing about us,"

Don't be to sure of yourself there man, you don't know me. You are our lap dog! First you were the master, now you are the servent. I'm sorry if that upsets you, and you would rather phrase it differently, but it is clear that you are a lap dog to the US to me.

"No your wrong, and i'm telling you for a fact. Most people would prefer the term 'ally' at the very least!"

Most people might, but I see you as more of the lap dog you are.

"(I see your more the type for that, jumping into this thread and contradicting everyone because you've convinced yourself we're all wrong)."

Maybe I am that type. I do see you continuing the arguement though, so your not exactly innocent yourself are you? Contradiction? Oh no, not that! That would mean someone is dissagreeing with your view. Nooooooooooooooo, that can't be, and must be stopped at once. BTW, when someone claims a lot of Americians deserve to die, they are wrong. Did you single them out to point out how wrong they were? No, you did not. That says to me that your a biased prick doing the exact thing your bitching at me for doing. I guess that would make you a hypocrite also.

"In this case, I was asked, so I replied, but i'll sleap soundly tonight knowing that you and your problems are a million miles away. Believe that if you will!"

What? Do you like live in space or something? A million miles? Do you allways exagerate like that? You know people that tend to exagerate like you do are not usualy the best sources of info.

"As if that has anything to do with the point I made."

It's called sarcasim. I guess it's a little over your head.

"I'm NOT a patriot by the way."

The way you defend your government sure does make you look like your patriotic. So when did it become a bad thing to be patriotic anyway?

"The stereotype might be that we're a peaceful, polite country that enjoys their tea but on the inside, we're just the fucking scrap yard of the world. Not that that's any of your concern so don't feel you need to comment on that."

I feel the need comment anyway. Actualy, most every person I have met from the UK has been kind of rude and confontational. If we are going to go by the ones I have met, then that means your country is not so peacefull after all. And don't even get me started on the violence of your sports.

"I'm not a worldly person and never even suggested I was."

"but the worlds a lot bigger then your country."

I see that as meaning I only see my country, and you see the world.

"I'm giving my feedback for the sake of the original topic (it's near the top of the screen if you've forgotten again) and to explain my attitude for you."

Did you say anything at all about bushy in your last post. or the post before it? Maybe it's you that has forgotten what the topic of the thread was.

"Well i'm not sure if you can have an, as you say, abuse free conversation."

Sure I can. I prefer not to though. What are you basing your judgement on? One thread? A few posts? You, as you apologized for earier, have a problem with thinking you know me.

"You were so quick to bad mouth everyone that had something negative to say about America (including myself) that it seems the theory that not all arguments have to be abusive hadn't passed you by."

Yes, I see that I was just as quick to bad mouth as the rest of the people on this thread were. Nope, it did not pass me by that this was a thread designed to create conflict. It didn't pass me by that others are just as, or more, abbusive then I am, yet you only condem me for it. Of course you feel a need to reply when you have been bad mouthed, right? I suppose you have that right. Guess what? So do I.

"A negative response isn't necessarily an insult"

And yet you are up in arms over my negitivity. What a hypocrite you turned out to be.

"I logged on and told myself i'd express my opinions (once again, for the sake of the topic) with as little a negative attitude as possible."

" you fucking dunce"

You failed yourself. Not the strongest of wills are ya?

"Did you consider that before you bounded on with all the 'oh yeah? well moan, moan, grumble, how would you know, moan, complain'."

No. I was fishing for an arguement, and you guys supplied it.

"I didn't insult America and I still havn't."

Others did. But your right, you did not and that is why I offered to be civle to you. As you turned down my offer, I can only assume you prefer an an abusive slagging match that's barely an argument.

"If you took my first post the wrong way then i'm telling you now that I had only the best intentions, if however, it's simply a case of you not being able to accept my opinion that why insult it? It's not going to change!"

A closed mind will not change. I feel sorry that your unwilling to change. It's a shame some people think they cannot be wrong. Change is not always a bad thing. If your opinion is set in stone, your mind is sealed shut. In my opinion a closed mind is a bad thing to have.

"A negative response isn't necessarily an insult, and you can't take every negative response AS an insult."

I think you may need to follow your own advise a little closer.

Toker

[Imotep]

do you guys really smoke pot?
i cant read that much let alone write it stoned. :D
good read while my interest lasts.
yous are all very entertaining and have wonderful opinions.

[Button Basher]

Look Lib, I could argue with you all day but the fact is, I really AM out for a decent discussion. The internet might be full of pricks that like to talk big while they're safe behind they're computer screen and I know me saying stuff like 'you fucking dunce' doesn't exactly make me look like a samaritan but i'm only getting the impression that your one of those pricks. I'm not trying to prove anything to you or change your attitude or slag you down 'cause I like to do that to people, i'm just merely speaking my mind and explaining it. Your right, you have a right to be angry at people who come on these boards and say bullshit like 'Americans deserve to die' etc, my main query is I didn't actually do that so I dunno why you've started on me above most others on this thread. Others on this board have convinced me your a decent guy but what am I supposed to think when i'm explaining myself for the sake of the argument and all you can do is go 'no, no, no, wrong, wrong, wrong'.
I don't hate America (I already said that). I havn't insulted America or Americans. My original post was about Bush and I added, just for the record, that America isn't a popular country in the UK. You can't seriously say that surprised you to the extent that you had to take it as abuse and return like a tennis player? America ISN'T a popular country over here. The UK might not be a popular country over there (just a lost cause by the sound of it) but I can get over it, even if you can't.
I've done my best not to be insulting and i've expressed pretty much all my opinions on the subject (aswell as the extra ones brought up by you and others), I might have slipped up a bit while posting with a few irritation induced insults but I think you know how hard it is to keep a pleasant smile when someone throws your opinions back in your face like they don't count, simply because (and my apologies if this isn't the case), they don't agree with them.
You can highlight all the points I made in this post and have a witty, abusive contradiction to say about each one if you want, in which case I won't reply 'cause i'm only here to express and share thoughts on Bush, which I have, not argue like a little bitch about things that don't even concern me. Or you can accept the fact i'm not out to destroy you and just leave it. I accept your views that you make as an American to defend your pride, whether I agree with them or not isn't really a factor in the discussion. We're of two completely different cultures, obviously we won't like eachothers views. I'm just trying for a balanced argument and it looks like it was pretty much over long ago.
You can say you've won with a smug face if you like, but I was never competing.

Peace.

[Libertarian Toker]

Look Lib, Peace.

There is a reason that I replied to you. You seem to have quite a bit more intel then the others posting in this thread. I don't like playing chess with people that are too easy to beat. It's no fun for me if I win every game, so I look for the people that I think can beat me, or at least make me think about my reply. I don't do it for the reasons you might think. I do it to learn. I have learned a lot, and made some good friends doing what I do. I enjoy it, I learn from it, and it hurts no one. Most people tend to judge a book by it's cover. Don't make the mistake of doing that with me. I'm an asshole, that's for sure. Would you have bothered to talk as much with me if I wasn't an asshole and I agreed with you?

Toker

[Libertarian Toker]

do you guys really smoke pot?
i cant read that much let alone write it stoned. :D
good read while my interest lasts.
yous are all very entertaining and have wonderful opinions.

I toke a lot. I never write straight. I did just quit smoking cigs though. I have now stopped smoking cigs for 17 days, 16 hours, 14 minutes, 41 seconds. That translates into 707 cigarettes NOT smoked, for a savings of $114.88! I have increased my life expectancy by 2 days, 10 hours, 55 minutes, 22 seconds.

Toker

[GHoSToKeR]

I toke a lot. I never write straight. I did just quit smoking cigs though. I have now stopped smoking cigs for 17 days, 16 hours, 14 minutes, 41 seconds. That translates into 707 cigarettes NOT smoked, for a savings of $114.88! I have increased my life expectancy by 2 days, 10 hours, 55 minutes, 22 seconds.

Toker
Good going, Toker

Giving up the old nicotine has been my most difficult task so far.. I still haven't managed to do it. I've read books, used Nicotine gum and patches, and many other things and I just don't seem to have the will power to give up.. ah well, good luck :)

[Libertarian Toker]

Thanks man, I need all the support I can get. I smoked for 29 years. I was up to about 2 packs a day, maybe a little more. No patch, no gum, just straight cold turkey. Not one more puff ever, I hope.

This helped me a lot.

http://whyquit.com/whyquit/BryanLeeCurtis.html

When the craves get to be a bitch, I go there and read that and some of the other stuff until the craves are overpowered by the desire not to end up like that.

Toker

[Button Basher]

There is a reason that I replied to you. etc.
Toker

That's cool Lib. I usually find most dickheads on the internet argue for the sake of feeling like tough shit, then you just feel like a child by simply being a part of it. I'm glad you explained your attitude with subtlety, your alright (and you obviously toke :cool: ). Anyway, it was interesting but i'm all argued out so peace :D !

[GHoSToKeR]

http://whyquit.com/whyquit/BryanLeeCurtis.html

hey thanks man

i'll take a look! i spend so much money on ciggies, its fucking up my health, and generally just sucks.. so thanks again :)

[Sedater18]

No, I haven't forgotten. It would seem you, and most of the other bash the us crowd, have forgotten what the original question was though. It was indeed about bushy, not the US and who hated the US is. Nor was it a question on if the people of the US deserve to die. Since the original qestion was ignored, and the bashing started to be pointed at the people rather then Bushy before my first reply, I would have to say that staying on topic was already a thing of the past.

I agree! this thread was also supposed to be pointed towards our current government and it's actions. shit like "americans should die!" actually seemed to be more directed at people than the government, at which time the American people feel the need to defend themselves. My initial question was answered by a few good responses and then some "yeah he sucks and so do all of you over there." There is always some immature people that want to post with insults rather then opinions. When that one guy said "bush and SOME americans should rot in hell" he wasn't talking to you. He didn't know you. He never said that there aren't bad people in the UL or anywhere else. He was motioning sort of towards how sometimes the U.S. is seen has having bigshot pinchpocket prick liars. Like John Lay and Martha Stewart.

"almost every thread I have read by you is aggresive, hostile, and negative."


So is most of the stuff others posted. So what! I guess you think wishing for the death of people because of the country they live in is a positive thing. I don't mind negitive or hostile. As matter of fact, I enjoy it. It makes for more interesting threads. Why do you wish to control me, and my ways? Are they so effective that you feel a need to try and stop me?

I was just pointing out your hipocracy. "Are they so effective that you feel a need to try and stop me?" You're conceited...


If I was you, I would be more worried about this then I was about the US. You seem to be letting them fuck you, and all you can do is bitch about US. I would think that you would be more interested in fixing your problems, and that one seems to be a big one, then in seeing how insulting you can be to US. I suppose some peoples prioritys differ quite a bit. If you can't control your own government, what the hell are you doing trying to tell US about ours for?

their government works fine, they just arent as powerful as us. Don't see how that makes them unable to control their country. Letting us fuck them? No, it's pretty much rape. We would be at their throats if we didnt agree with them, like France, we have a large impact on alot of countries...


Sure I can. I prefer not to though. What are you basing your judgement on? One thread? A few posts? You, as you apologized for earier, have a problem with thinking you know me.
That's sort of what you have been doing. If they click on your name they can read your posts. Maybe he wasnt basing it on a few, maybe he was basing it on most of them. Like I have.


You seem to have quite a bit more intel then the others posting in this thread. I don't like playing chess with people that are too easy to beat. It's no fun for me if I win every game, so I look for the people that I think can beat me, or at least make me think about my reply
...you're conceited...

I did just quit smoking cigs though. I have now stopped smoking cigs for 17 days, 16 hours, 14 minutes, 41 seconds. That translates into 707 cigarettes NOT smoked, for a savings of $114.88!
good job dude, it's a bitch breaking the habit. Failed twice myself before I finally got it. I still smoke cigs sometimes tho, just havent smoked enough to get cravings yet, first sign of addiction I stop for a while until the pain stops. So i geuss im not very good at keeping clean. A ciggarete after a few bowls is sometimes nice. I hate that quesy feeling with a passion.


Because Muslim terrorist have big balls, and canadians don't.
hahah Im not against canada but that was still pretty funny.

[Imotep]

I crave cigs daily still.
I quit by telling myself over and over "I will not pay a rich american to kill me"

I did despise americans for awhile. only had met a few and they were all fuckwits, loud and thought their shit was golden. didnt know anyhting about anyhting that wasnt american.
we used to hassle yanks and norweigens coz it was funny to racially attack another white person. we used to joke "this is not your country" which is a line from romper stomper used against asians.never hassled any real ethnic groups. hehe, real ethnics..
anyway that was 10 years ago now.
Its great to hear all the different opinions.
Interesting how hate for another countries government can translate into hate for anyone from that country.
For all the "thats racist" etc that goes on there is really fuck all to help you understand why we hate and fear etc. Ive had to work it all out for myself.
Though i grew up in a white town (well-to-do rednecks for the most part) the different groups still hated each other. footy players, druggos, etc.
maybe im still pissed off Killabuzz shied away from our racism debate.

[KyserSozay]

Well as far as Texas is concernd, U don't have to like Bush, will take him back!

Future of Texas
Please note that Texas is the only state with a legal right to secede from the Union (please refer to the Texas-American Annexation Treaty of 1848). We Texans love y'all, but we'll have to take action if Kerry wins president over Bush. We'll miss you too.

Texas has given all those complainers plenty of time to get used to the results. After seeing the whiners along the campaign route, the folks from Texas are considering taking matters into our their hands.

Here is our solution:

#1: Let John Kerry become President of the United States. (all 49 states.)

#2: George W. Bush becomes the President of the Republic of Texas. So what does Texas have to do to survive as a Republic?


1. NASA is just south of Houston, Texas. (We will control the space industry.)

2. We refine over 85% of the gasoline in the United States.

3. Defense Industry. (We have over 65% of it.) The term "Don't mess with Texas" will take on a whole new meaning.

4. Oil - we can supply all the oil that the Republic of Texas will need for the next 300 years. Yankee states? Sorry about that.

5. Natural Gas - Again we have all we need and it's too bad about those northern states. John Kerry will figure a way to keep them warm....

6. Computer Industry - We currently lead the nation in producing computer chips and communications: Small places like Texas Instruments, Dell Computer, EDS, Raytheon, National Semiconductor, Motorola, Intel, AMD, Atmel, Applied Materials, Ball Semiconductor, Dallas Semiconductor, Delphi, Nortel, Alcatel, Etc, Etc. The list goes on and on.

7. Health Centers - We have the largest research centers for cancer research, the best burn centers and the top trauma units in the world and other large health planning centers.

8. We have enough colleges to keep us going: U.T., Texas A&M, Texas Tech, Rice, SMU, University of Houston, Baylor, UNT, Texas Women's University, etc. Ivy grows better in the south anyway.

9. We have a ready supply of workers. (Just open the border when we need some more.)

10. We have control of the paper industry, plastics, insurance, etc.

11. In case of a foreign invasion, we have the Texas National Guard and the Texas Air National Guard. We don't have an army, but since everybody down here has at least six rifles and a pile of ammo, we can raise an army in 24 hours if we need it. If the situation really gets bad, we can always call Department of Public Safety and ask them to send over a couple Texas Rangers.

12. We are totally self sufficient in beef, poultry, hogs and several types of grain, fruit and vegetables and let's not forget seafood from the gulf. And everybody down here knows how to cook them so that they taste good. Don't need any food.


This just names a few of the items that will keep the Republic of Texas in good shape. There isn't a thing out there that we need and don't have.

Now to the rest of the United States under President Kerry:

Since you won't have the refineries to get gas for your cars, only President Kerry will be able to drive around in his 9 mile per gallon SUV. The rest of the United States will have to walk or ride bikes.

You won't have any TV as the Space Center in Houston will cut off your communications. You won't have any natural gas to heat your homes, but since Mr. Kerry has predicted global warming, you will not need the gas.

Signed,

The People in Texas

[Imotep]

wish i was a texan
maybe thats whats uze need, another civil war. get all yr war bugs out on each other.
hey theres a bunch of arseholes in Sudan being as bad as Saddam that need their arses kicked.get in there and destroy "those that hate freedom!" (if i can quote georgie boy).

[KyserSozay]

wish i was a texan
.
ya i am a transplant myself, had to get out of Louisiana.

[sawleaf]

I'm sorry, but am I the only one who cracks up when Bush opens his mouth??? :p

[Imotep]

i cant speak for everyone, but i think he's very funny.
heaps of iraqis think so too. :)
but democracy and freedom will prevail and theyll thank him for it one day.

[Sedater18]

not so sure about that dude. NPR was interveiwing some like specailist on those topics and they said that everyone new iraq was just going to be a dictatorship again, right now all america wants to do is be able to get out.

I laugh my ass of when i hear a speach. like hitler in the way he gives a speach, he's good at getting people rioled up cheering but if you listen to what he's saying you're like: wft?

[Libertarian Toker]

"you're conceited"

Yep, I might be a little concieted. I am more then likely a little hypocritical also. Sometimes I can even be a little vain. So what! They are human traits we all have.

Why do you keep posting to me? Why do you put more effort into your post to me then you do others? If I am little concieted, there is a reason for it.

"That's sort of what you have been doing. If they click on your name they can read your posts."

What normaly happens by the end of the posts? Your only blind because you have your eyes closed, if you open them you will be able to see better.

"good job dude, it's a bitch breaking the habit. Failed twice myself before I finally got it. I still smoke cigs sometimes tho, just havent smoked enough to get cravings yet, first sign of addiction I stop for a while until the pain stops. So i geuss im not very good at keeping clean. A ciggarete after a few bowls is sometimes nice. I hate that quesy feeling with a passion."

It's a bitch man, but I hate the fucking things so much that I don't think I will be going back to them anytime soon, or ever. I hope not anyway. To tell ya the truth I can't believe I have went this long without even a puff. It seems like I am living a different life now. I am actualy. I do get to smell it every so often though, when someone eles is smoking. Does that count as anything? The wierdest thing has been eating in the non-smoking sections. What a trip it is to say non-smoking instead of smoking to the hostess.

Toker

[GHoSToKeR]

Kyser, do all of you texans plan to "Keep it in the family", if you know what i mean?

[sawleaf]

not so sure about that dude. NPR was interveiwing some like specailist on those topics and they said that everyone new iraq was just going to be a dictatorship again, right now all america wants to do is be able to get out.

I laugh my ass of when i hear a speach. like hitler in the way he gives a speach, he's good at getting people rioled up cheering but if you listen to what he's saying you're like: wft?

I hope it doesn't go back to a dictatorship! The reason I think Bush is funny when he talks is. He always has this look on his face like he is trying to think of what to say or that he doesn't quite believe in or understand what he is saying. Then he always pauses after saying something, waits for a response from the crowd with a little nervous confused look on his face. It's like he is waiting for the crowds response to make him believe he is right in what he is saying. :)

[Libertarian Toker]

"1. NASA is just south of Houston, Texas. (We will control the space industry.)"

Federally funded. You would control nothing as they would just move it.

"2. We refine over 85% of the gasoline in the United States."

Yep, and if the rest of US ain't buying it, you ain't exactly selling it are ya? As if new refinery's could not be built.

"3. Defense Industry. (We have over 65% of it.) The term "Don't mess with Texas" will take on a whole new meaning."

Again, federaly funded. The term would soon change to " don't mess with Texas 's empty factorys and warehouses". You seem to think you will just keep what you have there, and still be able to fund it. Something tells me your not thinking this through very well.

"4. Oil - we can supply all the oil that the Republic of Texas will need for the next 300 years. Yankee states? Sorry about that."

I hope ya can eat it also. Better not have any floods or droughts, ya know what I mean? You won't be getting any federal funding for anything, so your oil will have to cover a lot of expences. Who will you sell it to?

"5. Natural Gas - Again we have all we need and it's too bad about those northern states. John Kerry will figure a way to keep them warm.... "

I guess without the great state of Texes there just ain't no reason to be here at all. LOL! I have a natural gass well on my land in KY. Coal also. Say, do you guys have enough coal for your electric plants? It might get a little dark down there if ya don't.

"6. Computer Industry - We currently lead the nation in producing computer chips and communications: Small places like Texas Instruments, Dell Computer, EDS, Raytheon, National Semiconductor, Motorola, Intel, AMD, Atmel, Applied Materials, Ball Semiconductor, Dallas Semiconductor, Delphi, Nortel, Alcatel, Etc, Etc. The list goes on and on."

Yep, and they would all up and move right out of Texas if you told them they could not trade with US. Either that, or they would soon be pushed out of buisness by their compitition from the US.

"7. Health Centers - We have the largest research centers for cancer research, the best burn centers and the top trauma units in the world and other large health planning centers."

So does the rest of the states, so what! I would imagine after the mass killings and expulsions in the new kingdom of Texas that most of the doctors would have fled or been asigned to the new government in some orwellion fashon. I doub't your medical care would be as good as it is now.

"8. We have enough colleges to keep us going: U.T., Texas A&M, Texas Tech, Rice, SMU, University of Houston, Baylor, UNT, Texas Women's University, etc. Ivy grows better in the south anyway."

I wonder how many of the students and teachers would hang around for the kingdom of Texas?

"9. We have a ready supply of workers. (Just open the border when we need some more.)"

And you can solve our illegals from the south problem at the same time. Not a bad deal there.

"10. We have control of the paper industry, plastics, insurance, etc."

By god if they don't make it in Texas, it ain't made. LOL! Your control, if you even have any, would evaperate so fast you wouldn't even know what happened.

"11. In case of a foreign invasion, we have the Texas National Guard and the Texas Air National Guard. We don't have an army, but since everybody down here has at least six rifles and a pile of ammo, we can raise an army in 24 hours if we need it. If the situation really gets bad, we can always call Department of Public Safety and ask them to send over a couple Texas Rangers."

Everyone has at least 6 guns? No shit? Hmmmm, that's intesresting. Raise an army in 24 hours? I'd like to see that. Bodys and guns don't make an army. Training, expirence, and control does. You would have no control over a army of rednecks called up in 24 hours packing six rifles and a pile of ammo each. It would be a joke, not an army.

"12. We are totally self sufficient in beef, poultry, hogs and several types of grain, fruit and vegetables and let's not forget seafood from the gulf. And everybody down here knows how to cook them so that they taste good. Don't need any food."

I wonder how much federal funding your farmers and ranchers get? You may want to look into that some.

"This just names a few of the items that will keep the Republic of Texas in good shape. There isn't a thing out there that we need and don't have."

You really should think about what your saying a little more.

"Since you won't have the refineries to get gas for your cars, only President Kerry will be able to drive around in his 9 mile per gallon SUV. The rest of the United States will have to walk or ride bikes."

We got a refinery right here in Denver. Oil wells here too. Kansas has the same. No problems here with needing your gas. More can be built if we needed them. How will you feed all those jobless oil workers?

"You won't have any TV as the Space Center in Houston will cut off your communications."

I sure would like to know why you think the federal government would leave anything like NASA there. It's like saying the US would leave nukes there. Yep, that's what would happen for sure, right? Who would fund it? What you don't seem to understand is that you have no way to force them to leave it there. If you break from the US, you break from everything federal. No more funding, no more anything from the feds. They will not leave you a thing. If you think Texas can be nasty to the rest of the US to try and get whatever it is you think you would get, you better think again. Your plan to be nasty would plunge your new kingdom into poverty and oppression. Your labour would rise up against the capitalist system abusing them, and socialism would take over.

"You won't have any natural gas to heat your homes, but since Mr. Kerry has predicted global warming, you will not need the gas."

We have plenty of gas without yours. Your kidding yourself if you really think Texass is that importent to the survival of the US.

"Signed,

The People in Texas"

Wow, you speak for the people of Texas? No shit? What are you like the govenor or something? I don't think you can get much support for your quest. I'd be willing to bet money that most Texans don't feel the same as you do.

Toker

[Sedater18]

Lib, chill, he was sort of making a joke.

[Libertarian Toker]

So was I mister police man with no badge. He made points, I made counter points. Am I not aloud to do that either? Just what am I aloud to say big brother? Oh yeah, I'm not aloud to say anything at all. BTW, what makes you think he was joking? Does it seem so far out to you that you think no one could think like that?

Toker

[KyserSozay]

So He made points, I made counter points. Am I not aloud to do that either? what makes you think he was joking? Does it seem so far out to you that you think no one could think like that?

Toker
well u r right on most of it, but ya, it was mostly jokes (all except for the seafood, we really can make it taste good)!

this thread just looked like someone might need a laugh... I wish i had some other cleaver stuff, but really i have agreed with most of what u said throughout this thread.

But I can say this, having been to 5 of the 7 continents, that everyone is pretty much the same everywhere, well that i have been. We might have a differnt name for god, economic system, government, ect. ect.... But we all come down to our basic moral values.... i.e.. if you are a peace of shit there u'll be one here to. well my weed is wearing off, so got ta get that taken care of.

and Lib, give them hell for texas...lol

[heartsurgerysurviver]

KyserSozay: ya i am a transplant myself, had to get out of Louisiana.


I now live in Louisiana, moved here from Connecticut. So why did ya move?


Libertarian Toker: Thanks man, I need all the support I can get. I smoked for 29 years. I was up to about 2 packs a day, maybe a little more. No patch, no gum, just straight cold turkey. Not one more puff ever, I hope.

I smoked 2 packs a day before heart attacks and surgery got me to stop. It's been 6+ years and i still crave them dam coffin nails. best of luck to you, Lib toker in your quest to quit. I enjoy reading your posts, You are informative and well versed.

Ed ward I see you're in New Orleans, I'm on the north shore out in the swamps. I had a friend in high school in the 70's his name was Ed Ward and was going to be a Dr. Are you Him ? lol Naaa couldn't be.

peace
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[Sedater18]

Am I not aloud to do that either? Just what am I aloud to say big brother? Oh yeah, I'm not aloud to say anything at all.

you are so anal and I love it. most of the shit you say makes me laugh because you're just such a twat about it. you just seem to post to be an asshole. I'd start an arugment with you, just to see what you would say. Keep on keeping on!

[sawleaf]

you are so anal and I love it. most of the shit you say makes me laugh because you're just such a twat about it. you just seem to post to be an asshole. I'd start an arugment with you, just to see what you would say. Keep on keeping on!


Hahaha, you two are like a kid and dad with a constant grudge. :)

[Libertarian Toker]

"you are so anal and I love it."

It says a lot about you that you love anal! LOL! Start your arguement man, I like it also.

"you just seem to post to be an asshole."

Seems to be a lot of that going on lately.

Toker

[Libertarian Toker]

Hahaha, you two are like a kid and dad with a constant grudge. :)

Am I the kid or the dad?

Toker

[sawleaf]

Am I the kid or the dad?

Toker

You're the wiser dad. All this anal talk is kind of getting weird though.

[Libertarian Toker]

Well he is kind of right, I mean I am an asshole so I guess that would mean I am kind of anal. Some times I even talk out my ass.

Toker

[Sedater18]

I know dad

[Sedater18]

You're older too! I get to lazy to complete an argument or a statement, all my retorts are half-assed...

[Sedater18]

not as hardcore as you and sawleaf...oh to answer imotep, i havent smoked as much as I have wanted to lately im on probation, kinda tense.

[sawleaf]

Oh that sucks about your probabtion. Careful. Haha, I only get hardcore when people mess with my firearms and cannabis. :) No worries

[KyserSozay]

I now live in Louisiana, moved here from Connecticut. So why did ya move?
Well lets just say, If I would have stayed, I probably would have never gotten a job that i can declare on my taxxes, and my wardrobe would have a lot of orange in it.

[Sedater18]

Is this thread even going to get anymore comments about bush? If someone would like to post on bush please do! argue if you like! im just searching for a phrase like "im from england and bush sucks" or "I think bush is ok, im from canada"and then you should continue with "WTF Lib thats bullshit, fuck you whores! america sux mi big nutz! :mad: "

[Imotep]

hehe :D

[psychocat]

I believe Bush and Kerry are manipulated by corporate America http://nogw.com/illuminati.html

I think they are as dishonest and corrupt as the businessmen who put them where they are.

[rufusthestuntbum]

"the whole world hates america for one reason or another."

I see! Well, I would like to just take your word for it on that, but the evidence says otherwise. People are dying to get here. They risk it all for a chance in the US.


Wow immigration. No other country has that. America is just so special. The funny thing is, LT is a fucking moron, but he is one of those american morons, who, no matter how stupid they are, cant shut the fuck up. You know he thinks its only america that has immigration. Here dumb fuck, for the record people die trying to get to any industrialized nations.



I'm thinking some hate US, and some don't.


No most people hate you. You wouldnt know though, i doubt you travel.





The US, for the short time it has been around, gives more to the world then any other country.


You take more too.




As a matter of fact, we are the most giving people on this planet.


No you are greedy pigs, and you are proud of it.




The people of the US come from all over the world.


Wow you are immigrants, thats amazing, wow none us knew that

They are the world. If you hate US, then you hate the world. Some of you will claim it is only the "government" that you hate, but it is all to clear that the American color of our skin is what's hated by the ones that do hate US.


I dont just hate the government, i hate american people. Most of them anyway. People like you and torag are scum. Most americans are pretty stupid, thats my opinion of you from travelling to america. A bunch of morons who shoot guns and read bibles. To me people like you are worthless trash. But keep up your stupid american opinion of everybody being jealous of your shit hole country, i consider your opinions funny. I like reading them. People who couldnt finish HS in a country where college grads cant read must be the real fucking dumb ones. Bush is aiming his speechs right at you LT, he doesnt need to dumb anything down, in fact its better if the viewer is dumb. Just repeat the word terror 50 times a speech and try to convince people that iraq is about terror. Hey it worked on you.

[rufusthestuntbum]

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You have grown a little to whimpy.

Is that like too wimpy? Sorry i dont speak drop out.


Of course if the US wanted to, we could walk in and take canada in a matter of days.


No americans are too stupid to be able to find canada on a map. Especially you. Maybe the map with america as the center of the universe would help?



More then likely without a fight. There is something about about a bunch of unarmed, anti-war whimps without an army that just screams power to burn down the white house.

American gun owners are inbred trash. Your military are baby killers. I guess that makes me a wimp, and you a big man. No, actually it means you havent evolved. Oh wait you are a creationist, like all americans. I bet you call people tree huggers too. I love when stupid americans say that. Who cares how big your military is? How is your health care? The military is unneeded in the 21st century, but dont worry Bush is inventing fake bad guys so dumb little drop outs like you will support him. Its good to see you say something as stupid as you are pro war.

[rufusthestuntbum]

You can try, but you can't exclude US from speaking if we want to be heard.

Toker


No kidding, americans never shut up, no matter how stupid their opinions are

[bigdaddy420]

"No Americans are too stupid to be able to find Canada on a map."

Canada, isn't that the country south of the US? Mexico is the country to north, right? I'm a stupid American can anyone help me out.

[Libertarian Toker]

No kidding, americans never shut up, no matter how stupid their opinions are

Damn, your kind of chapped ain't ya? I find all of your special sayings to be rather pre-programed, and not very original. Whats a matter, is being original a little to much for ya? If your the messure of a smart earthling, then I will take your calling me stupid as a complment. Thank you for showing yourself for the person you are. It helps to understand you when you lose your cool and start talking out your ass. They have medical term for that, it's called a.s.s (anal speak syndrom). You might want to see a proctologist for that.

Toker

[RickJZ]

If you take a close look at Bush put a small black mustash undar his nose and comb his hair down who do you think he looks like, or the way he waves at people, dosn't it look like a nazie salute. Hay my American brothers don't let this fucking ass hole break up the two most friendlyest countries in the world. So my American brothers
I telling you be carful who vote for next month. For I see dictatership in the US so be careful my brothers.

[RickJZ]

:rolleyes:
If you take a close look at Bush put a small black mustash undar his nose and comb his hair down who do you think he looks like, or the way he waves at people, dosn't it look like a nazie salute. Hay my American brothers don't let this fucking ass hole break up the two most friendlyest countries in the world. So my American brothers
I telling you be carful who vote for next month. For I see dictatership in the US so be careful my brothers.

[Rooisme1]

so I ask......why do alll these people flock to the US?
Cause it is a great country.....with shitty leaders at the moment.
we are in controversies now that all other countries yet to face.

[psychocat]

so I ask......why do alll these people flock to the US?
Cause it is a great country.....with shitty leaders at the moment.
we are in controversies now that all other countries yet to face.

You couldn't pay me enough to tempt me anywhere near the US.

Ridiculous sentences for minor offences , rednecks and trailer park trash with guns , paramilitary police force , bible bashers and religious freaks of all descriptions , drive by shootings , pervert presidents , Martha bloody Stewart , serial killers by the dozen , paranoia , fat fucks (60% obese) , crappy fast food , these are just a few of the reasons why I won't be heading stateside EVER.

[smokinindausa]

why excactly do you aim all your hate at our president? what excactly has america affected in your life, other that the fact youd all either be in a fascist state, or a communist state now? understand that the US is an ally to all of europe and would defend if yall were attacked. both europeean govt's and american gov't is equally shitty (see the 1994 massacre in Rwanda, where 800,000 innocents were killed and no industrialized nation or the shitty UN did anything). get pissed at the shitty situation in the whole world instead of our president. its small fish compared to the suffering in 3rd world countries.

[RickJZ]

If you put a little black mustash under his nose and comb his hair down don't you think he looks like Hitler? I don't like the bush clan they are a bunch white sepremests or natzes same thing.