Spider mites

[THC7]

I was told that I have a small case of spider mites. How the hell can you get rid of them? Thanks for any input.:confused:

[dialtone420]

I think if ya put a couple of drops of dishsoap in a spray bottle and shower them daily theyll go away. Dirty loven spider mites of hell!

[Gen]

here you go. I have used this for white fly infestation and it works. Follow directions. It's supposed to work for spider mites too.

Mite, bugs, powdery mildew.

1/4 cup Baking Soda
1/2 cup Apple Cider vinegar
1 Tablespoon Lemon Juice
2 drops dish detergent
1/4 Teaspoon Epsom Salts

Take a cup of very hot water and dissolve the epsom salts, take rest of ingredients and place in a clean 2 liter bottle and let work out. Add epsom solution. Add water to fill to 48ozs(3/4 full).Shake well.

TO USE: Cover soil/medium with plastic,with lights off mist plant all over,especialy under leaves,
Wait 20 mins,then spritz off with clean fresh water shaking as much water off plant as you can.
The fresh water spritz rinse will remove the solution along with the desolved remains of the mites and their eggs.

Have fun with your new "Mite Eradicator"

Note by MrFixit: Water plants 1/2 hour before spraying. This will help keep your plants from absorbing the spray.

This solution has been tested and used as directed will not burn plants,the rinse is very important though as it removes the spent solution before it can concentrate and burn the plant. It also removes most of the dead mites and eggs so you don't end up eating them.

The formula can be diluted further,to 1 liter and it will still kill the mites but isn't as effective at dissolving and removing the mite parts.
Since removing the mite debris is desirable,I recommend the stronger solution,just remember to rinse and shake.
This formula is alkaline(about 7.8-8) so please remember to rinse.

[yaarea41510]

neem oil and pyrethrum seems to work okie but you gotta constantly shower your plants for weeks on a 2-3 day basis and even so...bitches will come back. To exterminate for good is a difficult task. I'm experiencing mite infestation the last 3 batches. I've only reduced the mites but have not contained the situation. If your plant are still small dipping them in AVID works well..

[Opie Yutts]

Forget all that crap.

I battled spidermites for years. Good lord I hate them. They can take months of serious effort and destroy it in a few days. I tried everything under the sun including the stuff mentioned above. All that stuff kind of works. The trouble with spider mites is stuff that kind of works only makes them mad, and then they get together and vote to really screw you over even more than before.

Here's a little tidbit for you that many people don't know about. There is no way that rinsing and spraying and fiddling about will kill all your spider mites. Leave just one male and one female in your carpet or on your pants or in your cats hair, and in a couple of weeks you will see that all your efforts were for nothing. Spider mites have this wonderful defense mechanism where by some of them burrow deep into stuff like soil and rockwool. There they lay and wait. What are they waiting for you may ask? They are waiting for the next change in the light cycle that goes from veg to bloom. Then, just when you think that they are definetly gone because you haven't seen any in a few weeks, there they mysteriously are again. Mother fuckers.

If you want to continue the rest of your natural born days as a weed farmer to battle them, then go ahead and do the stuff mentioned above. If you want to spend 30 seconds to get rid of them for good, then follow this advice: Buy a No Pest Strip (at Fred Meyer, Walmart, etc.) and set it in your grow room for 3 days, then when your light cycle changes to bloom then next time, and the little bastards come out to play again, do it again. At this point all your spider mites will be gone for good.

I didn't believe it untill I tried it. I only wish someone would have told me about it 3 years sooner.

Be careful if you dip them as mentioned above. Pull your lights way back for a few hours afterward or much of the plant will get burned.

And no matter how strong the urge, never ever bring home a plant that has spider mites on it. If you visit a grow room that has spider mites, burn your clothes before coming indoors.

Kill them suckers quick! A "small case" of mites very quickly becomes a train wreck.

[bongerstonerd00d]

The good bugs from BHG you can buy to rid plants of spider mites ?? They "say" they seek out and destroy all the active mites, as well as the eggs.



b0nger

[yaarea41510]

so opie where do place the strips... on the pots or trays?? or just anywhere?

[Opie Yutts]

I have tried good bugs too. Several kinds, and shitloads at a time. Some work better than others, but like the neem oil, soap and other stuff, they KIND OF work. If you want to KILL them for good hang or place a no pest strip in your grow room. If it is a big grow room or green house, you may want 3 or so. I would probably double whatever the directions call for since the strips aren't real expensive. I don't think it matters where you place it. The toxins will permiate the air and seek the suckers out wherever they are. Use as little ventaltion as possible while using the pest strip, but I still had a lot of air exchange and it worked on my mites.

I spent a little over $500 trying to use good bugs in my 3' x 3' closet, and all it did was nock them back a little. I spent, I forget, but it was under $30 for several pest strips, and 1 killed them, except for the ones that hybernated until the next light change, which I killed with a second strip. If you want to try good bugs, get spider mite "destroyers". They are bigger than the benificial mites (like a very small black ladybug) and do a much better job in less time. They are also more expensive.

Whatever you decide, take action fast. I think they breed within 3-5 days after hatching. Good luck.

There. I have saved you several weeks work of man hours. I will mail you the bill. No wait, glad to help. No charge.

[Opie Yutts]

If you want to try natural stuff, other than benificial insects neem oil works best.

[yaarea41510]

good advice..I will give pest strips a try and hope for the best..

p.s. If you're gonna buy beneficial predators..DO NOT buy any of the triple threat spidermite predators..they don't work worth crap, at least not for my buddy and I. I wasted $58 for nothing..definitely get the black ladybug (mite destroyer) I heard they work and each one eats a shitload of mites a day..40 including eggs.

[latewood]

pyrethrum is the best way...you just have to adhere to a strict regimen of spraying then waitin and spraying to kill the hatchlings...

another note, If I may? Always dip you clones in a weak diluted pyrethrum solution before you/or, as you transplant them for veg. This will keep them away in the 1st place.

hope you get some use out of this info. lw

[Opie Yutts]

My experience has been that pyrethrum or anything in that family is the best spray or dip. By best I mean kills the most mites, but of course neem oil is the best in the "natural and safe" category.

pyrethrum is the best way...you just have to adhere to a strict regimen
Since you are not going natural anyway, wouldn't the "best way" be to spend 30 seconds 2 times instead of a "strict regimen" many times?

To me the best way to solve a problem is the way that properly fixes it in the shortest amount of time. I guess that's because other than my family and my health, my time is the most important thing that I have. I guess if you just like spending time with your weed project, go ahead and spray and dip. I already spend too much time with my weed project. I'll use a pest strip again if I ever get mites. I'm pretty sure that they are gone now for good. That's what pest strips will do for you. Praise (insert your main religious figure here)!

And now, fun with pocket microscopes:
Of course everyone has one of these. They're only $8 at radio shack. You really need one to look at trichomes. Thats how you know when to harvest. Well anyway, one day after administering the pest strip look at the mite eggs. You will see babys killed dead in their tracks as they attempt to emerge from the eggs. Ha ha, very funny. Take that you fuckin little bastards.

[yaarea41510]

mites are not that bad...snap, crackle, pop...LOL

[THC7]

I used 2 pyrethrum bombs about 6,000 square feet of coverage and hung 2 pest strips and within a week there was no sign of any spider mites but that doesn't mean they are laying and waiting to come back. Garden is doing great and no sighn of destruction.

[oldsanclem]

pyrethrum spray every 5-6 days for 3 weeks to kill all aspects of there growing cycle.:dance: :dance: :o Pyrethrum is photo sensitive so the light will disapate the stuff. The problem with mites they come from every where and anywhere. Using a intake fan keeps the room at a positive pressure so they have a bitch of a time getting in. I use a wooden frame with a pantiehose over it , then a normal airfilter , THEN a hepa filter. (the little bastards not make)
Here is a simple box made of normal 11-1/2 shelving and some strips of pine. You need to put extra strips on the sides to make it 12-1/4 that way you can use simple 12 x24 inch filters. make a frame out of 1/2 in lumber to streach the panty hose over. I change the filters out every crop. The only time I mites is when somebody brings them in. :mad: :mad: :mad:

[Opie Yutts]

I used 2 pyrethrum bombs about 6,000 square feet of coverage and hung 2 pest strips

That'll do it. But you didn't need the bombs. Better safe than sorry I guess. You should not see any more (unless someone brings them in) until the next light change from veg to bloom. If you are lucky you won't see any more ever. Just repeat the process if need be at that time, and that should be it forever. Yeaaaah. Just be real carefull about bringing them in again. I wasn't kidding about burning your clothes if you go to an infested grow room. Also if you can, scrub down completely with a neem oil solution or something. Use pyrethrum if you don't mind going steril.

congrats.

[misk]

hmm can somone describe or post a picture of a spider might?

i recently lost a plant to wat i thought was baby spiders and theire webs, but now im not too sure if it was just a spider (thought it was a jumping spider coz ther was one living in my laundry)

i think i have 2 types on mine now. one is a tiny lil black thing with legs coming out the front and the other is a spider of some sort but extremly tiny, still a baby i think.

i will buy the no bug strips tomorow and hopfully theyl die.

bastards :(

[misk]

fuk, i just checked under my leaves......lil white eggs every where
:(:(:(:(:(

these strips better work lol

[Opie Yutts]

If you have spider mites you should see white specks start to show up on top of the leaves. This is where they eat the plant (from underneith though).

The strips will work, except for a very few varietes of mites that have built up a tolerance to those insectacides.

[the image reaper]

while I am NOT a "touchy-feely tree-hugger type", I thought this should be taken into consideration ... http://www.motherjones.com/news/outfront/1997/09/wellbeing.html
doesn't really worry me, as I wasn't going to smoke any children, anyway ... :D

[Jdog7000]

Opie How long has it been since you used this stuff?
I guess if you've been threw a couple crops since then it definately worked.
I hope it works for me. I hate those things. They always come back.

[Opie Yutts]

Jdog: I think I am on my 5th crop since using the pest strips. Still no sign of mites.

Image Reaper: Yes, the strips are not safe, like most of the strong non-natural pesticides. That is probably why they work. I suggest you only use them in your grow room, and only for the few days it takes to get rid of the mites. You may want to consider just going though the torture of controling them with natural methods if you are trying to have kids. The toxic chemicals may reduce sperm count and other stuff. Who knows all the bad stuff. I do know it will kill the mites for good.

[hazeywonder]

Those pest strips are the best I found them about a year ago when someone mentioned it on overgrow and will never go back. I recommind them to anyone that has to battle these little bastards...

[Aaron385]

I read the package on them and it even said safe to use in cabinets just that you "shouldnt" use them in areas that are constantly occupied. Im off to the store to buy some now!

[latewood]

Opie...I totally agree with your take on all this. but, keep in mind, that we want people to take all this advice and weigh it using common sense. We don't have to convince others, that our way is the only way.

Great job of sharing; All. peace, latewood

[Bachelorpads]

Avid kills mites dead. I would only use it on plants that are in veg. But it will kill them permanently. All the other remedies that were mentioned here did not work for me. I had way too much ventilation in my room for the no pest strips to work. Avid is a continual miticide. So it will kill when you spray and continue to kill for a couple months. So once again, this is not natural and if you are concerned about the chemical route do not use this. If you get tired of having mites, this will get rid of them completely.

[yabatab]

I have used lady bugs in the past as
a all natural pest control. But they do
breed and spread thru out the
rest of your house. LOL
http://www.ladiesinred.com/faq.htm

[Aaron385]

I have had the no pest strip in place for <24 hrs and the bug population is down at least 75%.. will see better when the lights come on in a couple hours. It has a very unpleaseant smell tho.. glad it will be gone in a couple days.

[latewood]

you have to keep it for a couple weeks, due to the hatchlings...mmmoooooorrrrahaahhahhahah
Can you say, "Hatchlings"?

later lw

[dialtone420]

Your Fucken Funny!! Havent laughed like that in years, (Caugh) ohh my lung!

[THC7]

Well I thought the bastards were gone but have seen a few last few days. I hope to get through and have 1 more week to go. They haven't done anything to my plants but after this I am going to bomb the hell out of the room and maybe start over with some new stuff and clean it up like a operating room.

[Opie Yutts]

LW:
Thanks for that, I hope I wasn't sounding like mine was the only way though. I didn't mean it like that. I think I even offered advice on alternatives.

If the THC hits your brain you did it the right way.

[Opie Yutts]

Avid kills mites dead

Yes it does. It is not available in my area and many others. Bachelorpads, couldn't you have turned off your ventalation at night, or at least way down? If the mites were exposed to it just at night, they would die I think.

[Aaron385]

avid is available on e-bay in a super concentrated form for $40 and ppl are buying it up.. try lookin there!

The no pest strip is def killing these things.. but new ones keep coming from somewhere.. there will be a bunch of dead ones on a leaf and then new live ones.. I might try one of those noise maker boxes they sell at wally world.. the ones with the high cherp sounds...

Anyone know if avid is detrimental to human health if just used during veg?

[Bachelorpads]

My room was a lot different when i had mites. Everything was still in dirt and, well, basically nothing was good about the room in my opinion. In those horrible conditions where everything was wrong, AVID worked, Nothing else did.

So i guess i should say it differently.

If you have mites and have exhausted all other "reasonable" methods and they keep coming back, AVID will solve the problem for you permanently regardless of your conditions.

I should mention that since i have been growing aero and dwc, I have not had any mite issues. I firmly believe that hydro plants are easier to protect against mites due mainly to the increase in humidity that occurs. There are other reasons but, i believe this is the primary reason they have trouble thriving.

[Bachelorpads]

I doubt anything about AVID is good for you. It is a systematic miticide so it will continue to kill mites for pretty much as long as the plant is alive. I would imagine that when it all comes down to it, a trace amount of AVID would be on the buds when they are done just from touching other parts of the plant that got sprayed during veg (trace would be a very very small amount). Pretty much, if you are worried about chemical traces that could be left in the nugs, don't use it. I did smoke cigarettes for 5 years so i am not all that concerned with chemicals in my body obviously. If it makes you nervous, don't use it. If it doesn't worry you, give it a go. Problem solved.

[Aaron385]

most of our produce comes from mexico where i live so if i was woried about a few spare chemicals i wouldnt have much to eat..

I will keep avid in my book of tricks but only as a last resort

[misk]

where can i find some of these no pest strips ?lol
im in austrlia y0, we dont have walmarts

[Garden Knowm]

There is NO such thing as a "small case" of spidermites...

and NOW you KNOWM

[Aaron385]

aussie dude- you might be able to order them online from an american company.. just google up "hot shot no pest strip"

Our chemical laws are different so most chemicals between usa and aus dont come from the same place. Your over the counter cough syrup has codine in it.. a controlled substance in usa. I never thought I would enjoy having a cold until i had one in australia.. haha.. i went to the chemist (thats what you call it right?) and said i had a cold and they gave me what in america would closely resemble tylenol with codine. I felt gooooood after a shot of that stuff.

So then I went and got a couple of piercings in a painful place and was reccomended to pick up this (some brand name) which was supposed to be some kind of anti inflamatory.. when I met up with my aussie friend after she got off work and she saw the pills sitting on the counter and was a little concerned. I cant remember the name of them.. but basically they were the austrailan form of Midol (womens time of the month pill).. and I had NO IDEA.. it did help with the swelling tho.

I tossed my no pest strip a couple days ago because the odor was so strong it was hard to even be in the same room with it even momentarily. I had it up for a week and everyday i would go in and find about 700 dead bugs and barely any alive.. id wash um off.. and the same the next day.. i dont know how the freak so many bugs regenerate so fast. I pulled the strip out and im back to about a thousand new live bugs a day that i kill twice a day with acid water.. they are eating the plants alive and i have no idea what to try next. Im going to the local indoor garden center to get some neem oil tomorrow.

[The Taquito Bandito]

Aaron, keep us updated on the neem oil please!

[scottw225]

There are mites in the garden now, less than 2 weeks left, would it be too late for the pest strip?

[Aaron385]

I would NOT use the pest strip scott.. seriously like imagine spraying raid directly on the plants and thats what it smells like.. the strip has been out of my room for 3 days and i use the odor killing cfl's and the plants still smell like pesticide.. but mine are just starting into 12/12 cycle.

Im headed out now to the hydro shop.. wish me luck. haha

[Bachelorpads]

my no pest strips produced no noticable odor. then again, i had amazing ventalation in my area so they didn't work either.

[Aaron385]

haha.. yea makes sense b-pads.. the guy at the hydro shop said neem oil wouldnt work and gave me some stuff from "Supernatural" and i sprayed it on the plants 5 min ago.. will let you know how it went

[BlackBliss]

I am from australia, and i have a flood and drain system that has recently gotten mite infestation......i used to use Pyrethrum untill i realised you have to basically use it once every 3 days for your whole grow (which your plants wouldn't survive) so i am going to try these so called "no pest strips" and see how they go......
Peace Out
Bliss.

[Opie Yutts]

I should mention that since i have been growing aero and dwc, I have not had any mite issues.

Bachelorpads, I too have noticed that mites are a much bigger problem in dirt. If you remember toward the start of this post I said that some of them hybernate until a light change from veg to bloom. They burrow deep into the growing medium. I don't know if this is even possible for them in something like clay pellets. I think they can do it in somthing like rockwool.

[Garden Knowm]

WARNING!
AVID can kill YOU... be very careful when using that stuff.. USE GLOVES AND MASKS...

yes it is one of the only ways to eliminate mites...


temperature control is essential when fighting mites without avid... temperatures above 80 degrees make it IMPOSSIBLE TO WIN THE BATTLE for an indoor grower..

mites will go dormant and stay dormant for more than 1 year when temperaures drop below 60 degrees...

the only thing worse than mites is LEO...

[Opie Yutts]

temperatures above 80 degrees make it IMPOSSIBLE TO WIN THE BATTLE

Sorry Garden Knowm but this just is not true. I am living proof. I used pest strips. My temp is typically 84, but sometimes 90. I have no more mites. Ever. Period. I just don't get it. Why is this such a hard concept for people.

[Garden Knowm]

OPIE.. you are telling me.. that you had spidermites and you used pest strips.. the yellow hangy things. and you got rid of the mites...

UMMMMMM NO FUCKING WAY.. LOL

iloveyou


those were not spidermites... i would BET BIG CASHOLA!!!

HOW do you know they were spidermites?

: )

OPIE.. very very few gardeners.. less than 1 in 10 get rid of spidermites.. unless they STOP grwoing for a prolonged period...

if you got rid of mites at any temperature... it is a freaking miracle.. I have witnesed more than 50 cases of mites on 50 different gardnes around the USA and have never heard of anybody winning the battle using pest strips..

I have actually never even seen a mite on a pest strip.. spidermites stay on the plants....

lets get to the bottom of this..

cheers

iloveyou

[Opie Yutts]

Fuck this shit. I am sick and tired of trying to convince people of the best method to completely rid yourselves of spider mites forever (indoors only). It costs under $10. It takes 30 seconds. You do it twice. Done. No more mites ever unless you bring more in or let more in somehow. I am not trying to convince people that I am a weed master and everyone should use my methods. I am merely trying to help, so hopefully people will not have to spend the money and time that I did. I battled them for years and I tried everything except bombs. After spending at least $1000, I tried a method I didn't believe would work. Well it worked. It will work for you on your indoor grow. Instead of mocking me and trying to make me feel stupid, why not try it first?

OPIE.. you are telling me.. that you had spidermites and you used pest strips.. the yellow hangy things. and you got rid of the mites...
Yes.

UMMMMMM NO FUCKING WAY.. LOL
Go ahead and laugh. Meanwhile I sit back and continue to enjoy years of mite-free crops. You on the other hand continue to dip, and spray, and bomb, or whatever else it is you do.

those were not spidermites... i would BET BIG CASHOLA!!!
OK let's bet. Any amount you want. For your convenience I take pay pal.

HOW do you know they were spidermites?
Months of research. University studies. Dept. of Ag. reports. Things like that. I probably know more about spider mites than 98% of the people in this forum. Dare I say, maybe even more than the illustrious Zandor.

OPIE.. very very few gardeners.. less than 1 in 10 get rid of spidermites
I guess I'm that one. Anyone else who wants to be can too.

if you got rid of mites at any temperature... it is a freaking miracle..
Then praise "insert your religious figure-head here".

I have actually never even seen a mite on a pest strip.. spidermites stay on the plants...
Niether have I. I guess that's because they try to stay away from the strips. The strips are toxic and makes the mites dead or extremely sleepy. It's obvious you have no idea what you are talking about in this category. How about a little bit O' reading before so much doubt and critisism?

lets get to the bottom of this..
I already did. You just have to believe and convert. Operators are standing by. I love you too.

[Garden Knowm]

WOW

LOL

OPIE..simmer down to a boil..

How do you know that they are spidermites?

I never ment to disrepect you.... i only mean to love you
I dont even know what disrespect mean?

let the debate range ON!!!
GRRRRRRRRRR...
:D
: )




I love your knowledge/contributions and I hope more than anything you are right.
I will order pest strips on MONDAY and place then in room with mites...

thank you for your info....

[Garden Knowm]

please post a link where i can purchase them, so that I will purchase exactly what you have used..

word!!

iloveyou

[Opie Yutts]

Sorry, looking back it seemed like I was really mad. Didn't mean it like that. My wife is waiting on me to watch a movie. I will try to give more info. tomorrow.

[Garden Knowm]

SWEET!!

thanks

HAREM is demanding my presence...

: )

[Bachelorpads]

I think i see where the confusion is coming here.

No Pest Strips are not the yellow sticky traps. They are actually a device/strip that slowly releases a chemical into the air around it called Dichlorvos. This chemical will kill all kinds of insects, mites included.
Here is a more scientific definition of Dichlorvos
http://www.atsdr.cdc.gov/tfacts88.html

The only reason it wouldn't work in some scenarios is because people usually vent the air in a grow room so quickly it does not reach a high enough concentration to kill them all.

The yellow sticky strips are all together a different animal. I use them on all of my plants right at the base because i have had issues with fungus gnats. If you place a piece of the fly trap right at the base of the plant, then any adult fungus gnats will stick to it. This interupts them from laying eggs and effectively controls fungus gnats before they become a problem. Just an fyi, this will not bring an infestation under control, they must be used before there is an overwhelming problem.

No Pest Strips should work if you have smaller amounts of air leaving the grow area. If you replace the air quickly, as in more then 3 times a day, it will probably not be super effective for you.

[Garden Knowm]

Thanks for the clarity mr. Bachelor... It took me awhile but eventually I realized my confusion.. I still will try the pest strips that opie says work..

and I will be their biggest proponent if they work!

: )

opie .... i would still like a LINK..

cheers

[Opie Yutts]

Man its friggen hot here. Barely into summer and itâ??s 90 degrees before noon. Iâ??m glad I did my yard work early this morning. I live in the pacific northwest, and am sick of the rain. I would rather be too hot and dry than too cold and wet if I had too choose. How about you guys? Everything hurts more when Iâ??m cold. Anyway, I am rambling â?? I guess the pain meds are kicking in and I just ground up a fresh handful of AK-47 in my new Krupps coffee/herb grinder, and am enjoying the use of my semi-new, top of the line Wicked Roots vaporizer. So, needless to say but Iâ??ll say it anyway; at this moment life is good and I love you guys. Sniffâ?¦

Good thing I donâ??t drink too or I may never get this party started. We didnâ??t come here for me to pour my heart out; we came here to learn a little something about spider mites and to perhaps have an interesting discussion about them along the way. Without doing math, itâ??s been roughly two years since my mite problem. I have forgotten many of the specifics, but anyone can find out the things that I did with a little digging on the internet. Also please note that much of what is to follow is my personal opinion, and taken from my own experiences. This is what I know, and it is not false in my book, so I will present it as fact. I am sure others will beg to differ and thatâ??s fine. Use your best judgment and decide for yourself what is best for you.

- Whatâ??s so bad about spider mites?
Spider mites suck, and I donâ??t mean just a little bit. They rank right up there with moles, termites, and mice for the ability to destroy money, time, and that which we love, need, or enjoy. If you suspect that you may have spider mites, take action immediately! They mature and reproduce very quickly, so very few mites very soon become very many. Ever heard â??Donâ??t cut off your fan leavesâ?�? The plant needs these for photosynthesis and for other reasons. Spider mites left unchecked, very quickly destroy the fan leaves and eventually the entire plant. They live on the underside of the leaf and eat it.

- How do I know if my plants have mites?
The mites themselves are very difficult to see with the naked eye, or even one that is clothed. It is possible; however you need to have good vision for this. It is best if you check with a magnifying glass, or better yet a pocket microscope. These are about $8 at Radio Shack, or at least they were three years ago. You might as well get one if you donâ??t have one, because you need one anyway for determining when to harvest (by checking trichomes). Not that it is necessary, but a microscope is the easiest and surest way to determine the exact species of mite.

Though the mites are difficult to spot, the evidence that they leave behind is not. At the beginning stages of the infestation you will start to see little white spots on the tops of your leaves. The spots wonâ??t be spread out evenly, but in groups of hundreds or thousands, bunched close together. At first glance it may look like one big spot. This is where the mites ate away the plant matter. Eventually they will leave only the skeletal structure of the leaf. These spots will spread. Do nothing and soon you will see webbing on your plants. Look close at the webbing and you will see hundreds or thousands of mites. The webbing will eventually spread to corners of walls and ceilings. There it will become more and more visible over the next few days as it becomes darker with masses of mites. If it is against a white wall it is very apparent.

- Crap. I have mites. Now what?
The first decision you should make at this point is very important and not to be taken lightly. It could affect your entire life and the lives of those around you. You need to decide if you want to control them with natural, safe methods, or rid yourself of them with lethal chemicals. As far as I know, it is near impossible to rid yourself of mites using natural methods. Please donâ??t yell at me about this, I said near impossible, and I mean without spending a lot of money. Iâ??m sure it can be done and has been. In general, most methods that are natural only serve to control, or knock back the infestation. Whatâ??s worse, it is never ending. Using solely natural methods one is likely to end up battling mites the rest of his or her entire weed farming venture. The good thing is that natural methods are safe. On the other hand toxic chemicals are not safe, but can easily rid your grow of mites once and forever. Using toxins, I know of two methods that can rid your grow of mites. One is definitely easier than the other but both will work. I would not use toxins if I am trying to or planning on having children. Whatever you use be efficient, do it right and do it well, and kill as many as possible the first try. Mites can build up a tolerance to substances and then you are really screwed.

- I want to try natural methods. Whatâ??s your recommendation?
First thing you do, and I mean right now, is mix up about 1/4 teaspoon liquid dish detergent in a spray bottle full of water, and soak every square inch of .. man, getting stoned.. hard to concentrateâ?¦ Oh yeah, every inch of the underside of the every leaf on every plant. Also soak the growing medium and everything else near your plants that you can stand to soak. This is a suckie process, since itâ??s hard to get the underside. When you turn the spray bottle upside down it refuses to spray. Someone invent something and give me half for the idea. Now you need to get set up to soak your plants in Neem oil. At this point I should tell you that if you ever spray or soak your plants you need to pull your lights way back until they dry completely, or they will burn. You will need a bucket big enough to submerge your entire plant (just the stalk, not the container). You will also need some Neem oil which is available at most garden centers and hydro stores. Furthermore you will need a piece of Styrofoam or something similar, that you can cut a slot into. The slot is to slide the stalk into when you cover your container. If your grow medium is below the surface of the container, fill the space with a towel or something. Follow the directions and fill the bucket with the Neem solution. Cover your growing medium and turn your plant over and dunk it. Shake it a little to get all the bubbles out and make sure everything is completely covered with the solution. Pull it out and let most of the liquid drip off before putting the plant back. Spray your whole room and repeat as necessary to keep the mites in check. After next harvest, tear apart your room and scrub down everything with a bleach solution. Read up on how to keep mites out in the first place. You can at this point decide if you can afford mite destroyers (not beneficial mites). If you buy maybe a couple thousand of them for a 3â??x3â?? closet you may be able to completely rid yourself of mites. This will be expensive.


- Iâ??m ready for the big time. How do I kill em dead?
Two methods I know of will work for sure and for good. One is Avid. It is extremely toxic and very hard to get for most people. It is a systemic. It stays inside the plant for a while and continues to work. You can buy it on the internet. Search about this if you are interested. The other is much easier and it is what I used. I have not had mites in about 6 or 7 harvests I think. It is called a Bug Stop Pest Strip, and it is manufactured by Spectracide. It is toxic and it will rid your grow of mites. Buy one and hang or place it in your grow room for two weeks and your mites will be dead. Follow the directions to determine how many you need, but I would probably double it just to be safe. Use as little ventilation as possible during the treatment. Look at the eggs under your microscope and you will see the little bastards dead in their tracks as they attempted to join the real world. If you are fortunate, this will be the end of it forever. More likely though, especially if you are growing in soil, you will need to repeat the process at the next light change from veg to bloom. This is due to a survival mechanism which makes some of them burrow deep into the growing medium and hibernate. And now, just stop letting them get in. Donâ??t bring them in, and read up on how to stop them from coming in on their own.

- Got any links?

Health effects, MSDS
http://householdproducts.nlm.nih.gov/cgi-bin/household/brands?tbl=brands&id=19020034

Where to buy (one of many places)
http://www.righthardware.com/item.html?itemid=364909655

A mite article
http://creatures.ifas.ufl.edu/orn/twospotted_mite.htm

- Got any pictures of the package?

[Garden Knowm]

WOW!!! NICE OPIE...

I am in the pacific west.. how baout I come up and you let me look at your garden.. : ) and film it for my next DVD?

IF these strips really kill mites.. which I am almost... sold on... I really would love to document IT!!!

what do you say? I can give you references.. LOL

iloveyou

[The Taquito Bandito]

Very informative thread.

I have yet to see an abundant wealth of information on treating mites when in flowering though. If anybody has any advice, let me know!

[Bachelorpads]

mites in flower = bad.
Be proactive with mites. You do not want to fight them during flower. If you have to then i would use the no pest strips (Dichlorvos). I am not saying it is a good idea, but that is what i would do if i had to do something. Avid would obviously not be a good idea at that point.

[Opie Yutts]

If I were not worried about health effects, I would use the pest strips during flower, but not near the end. My mites were gone in 5 days, so no biggie on the chemicals. Otherwise I would control the mites with natural methods until harvest, then I would kick me some serious mite ass.

[Opie Yutts]

This is a suckie process, since itâ??s hard to get the underside. When you turn the spray bottle upside down it refuses to spray. Someone invent something and give me half for the idea.

I remember now how I fixed this problem. I took the tube out of the spray bottle, so it was sucking from the top instead of the bottom. This made the spray bottle work great upside down.

[Bachelorpads]

They sell spray bottles with the tip pointed up just for this purpose. I bet you can find one at any garden center.

[Opie Yutts]

I did not know that. All serious gardeners should probably have one of those.

I probably looked in 8 different stores for a decent spray bottle.

[Garden Knowm]

http://www.epinions.com/Hot_Shot_No_Pest_Strips#


OPIE, what do you think abut these?

[Opie Yutts]

I think that's the one that's designed to trap the insects with adhiesives and is not the same thing I used. I don't think these work at all for mites, unless you are using them to trap the mites at an entrance to your room. You want the one that puts the toxins out in the air, more of a yellowish than blueish package (see my scan of the package above). You can also check the spectracide web site and they detail all their products.

PLEASE: for god's sake. After you have tried this, and all your mites are dead, please tell Zandor and the others, so that they will be more inclined to believe me.

[Ziggy Stardust]

*runs out and buys a whole case of no pest strips

any particu;ar brand?

throws away foggers - oils - emulshions - spray bottles and all that other shit that dont work

now all i need to do is fatten up my buds

[Ziggy Stardust]

ps thanks Opie and well done

[Opie Yutts]

Thanks for the compliments guys. Ziggy, as far as I know the only brand and model that will work for mites is the one in my scan above: Spectracide's No Pest Strip. A couple years ago this was a greeen and yellow package. I don't think the package has changed because when I did a search I found them at the hardware store that I linked above.

[TheMeadows]

Newly registered user here, but have several year growing experience. Spider mites, ugh! I live in the hot and dry desert southwest and have battled the bastards for years. Just when I think I won the war, there they are again. I even moved! Being desparate, about a month ago I purchased a couple No Pest Strips thinking at least they'll keep the gnats away. Well, I haven't seen a live mite in a couple of weeks. Wow! Thank you very much, Opie.

All's not perfect, though. I still see hundreds of eggs. Is the strip preventing the eggs from hatching? Did it kill the eggs? Or, please no, are there critters that I haven't spotted? Attached (I hope) is a pic taken thru a Radio Shack 60x-100x set at 60x. Kinda hard to see, but its the underside of a leaf, all the white dots are eggs.

Thanks

[Garden Knowm]

I WANT A LINK.. I want to order these and try them OUT!!

please
link ME

iloveyou

congrats on the victory MEADOW ...

OPIE!!! : )

[TheMeadows]

Thanks for the congrats GK, but the praise goes to Opie for persistenly pointing this out.

I found mine at the checkout isle of the local Home DePot. Mine are in a dark blue package. It's called a Hot Shot No-Pest Strip. The back reads almost verbatim of Opie's package. I imagine several companies are marketing the same product. It's the ingredients that count:

18.6% Dichlororvos (2,2-dichlorovinyl dimethyl phoshate)
1.4% Related compounds
80.0% Inert ingredients

Now if I can get the pH of my rockwool slabs correct ....

[Garden Knowm]

HAIL OPIE!

: )

[Garden Knowm]

JDOG.. please keep me posted on how these strips work for you..

: )

[Opie Yutts]

TheMeadows: Your very welcome. I'm glad I could help at least one person.

Now won't more of you come over to our side please? It's real nice over here. Just sitting back, sipping Crown Royal, and watching our pest-free plants growing.

In answer to your question, I'll just be honest. I don't know for sure about eggs. I don't think it kills the unborn babies, but I am not sure. I just looked at the eggs with my pocket microscope and saw that many of them had hatchlings half out of the egg, dead in their tracks. This was about 10 hours after putting the strip in my 3' x 2 1/2' x 8' closet (the night before). I assume that the babies carry on as normal until they try to come out into the atmosphere that has the lethal toxins in it. How concentrated the toxins are in the air, probably determines how soon the hatchlings die after emerging from the eggs.

Whatever you use and whatever happens, you must break the life cycle. This means killing all the adults and babies, before the babies can grow up and lay more eggs. I think my mites hatched about 3 days after the eggs were laid, so assuming the toxins kill the adults in a day or so (more like a few minutes I think), then everything should be dead within 3 days.

jack frost:

2-4 times every two weeks... However, spider mite control will almost always take several treatments. This is because the spray will not kill eggs. Consequently, eggs will be hatching following your first treatment. To insure you kill all activity, treat once a week for 3-6 treatments.
What are you talking about? What spray? And you just need to do it once, or twice at the most, if they emerge from hybernation at the next light change from veg to bloom.

The best material for spider mite control is called CYFLUTHRIN
Yeah, I guess that "mite" be true, as long as you could find it in a strip, and it broke the life cycle in one week, and it is as toxic as 18.6% Dichlorvos (DDVP), and it cost the same or less.

[PippZ]

Well i did quite a bit of reading on these no pest strips and the side effects if humans come in contact with them, Nasty things not to be used without care, but if one takes the proper care ie.. gloves ,mask, and not to inhale for long periods of time.Also plant matter is not effected by the vapour , (read 3 tests performed by seperate labs other then manufactures) and all said they do not effect plants in anyway.Also they are used to rid pet snakes of mites as well as other reptiles.I have been putting them in my room 3X5X5 with the start of an outbreak 1 plant infected , for the dark periods,soon as night time kicks in i shut down all ventalation in and out ,cover up openings but leave a small fan going to move the air around within the chamber, 10 hours into dark cycle i pull it out and put it in a zip lock bag ,let the vapour disapate for 2 hours and when lights come back on fire all air exchangers up
When i check the infected leaves those guys are dead their little children are dead and the egg count is redused greatly.
My question is i have been doing this for the last 7 days without seeing any new damage or anything alive but there are still eggs abound which are not effected by ANYTHING!! (even radiation! , read study where they shot radiation at spider mite eggs and they still hatched but did not live very long)
So as the little fuckers hatch the die within a few steps out of the egg, how long do ya think i need to keep going? I think it can take 3-14 days for them to hatch in hot dry conditions, how long did you treat for?

[Opie Yutts]

Pippz:
Glad to see another success story from using the pest strips. Zandor, do you still think that it's impossible for the strips to work?

I kept my strip in my closet one week, if memory serves. I didn't see any more movement after the first day. You just need to keep it in there until you are sure that all the eggs are finished hatching.

[tekneeqs]

So do these strips actually work? Anyone tried it and worked for them besides Opie? Garden, did u get the chance to try it yet?

[tekneeqs]

Oh btw, all this talk about mites makes me wonder, WHERE DO MITES COME FROM?

[yogro]

Cannipoedia
found in the air..Could'ves, would'ves and mites, .

[Opie Yutts]

TheMeadows:
Don't worry about the eggs. If you keep your strip(s) in your grow area for a couple weeks you should have nothing to worry about. As soon as the eggs hatch, the bastards die. If not, you might want to try adding another strip or two (more toxins per area). Mine never made it more than half way out of the eggs. If they die right away, they can't breed. No more eggs, no more problem, unless of course you let more in somehow. Don't do that.

Everyone:
Thanks for the thanks, and you are all very welcome. Glad I can help.

[konquest]

Here's a pic of some bugs Im thinking are spider mites ??? Iv had no bug probs appart from fruit flies, which disapeared after a few days of doing nothing.. If anyone can identify these little things id be greatly appreciated. They don't seem to eat the plants, but the last thing I want is shitty little bug buds...

[Opie Yutts]

Here's a pic of some bugs Im thinking are spider mites ??? Iv had no bug probs appart from fruit flies, which disapeared after a few days of doing nothing.. If anyone can identify these little things id be greatly appreciated. They don't seem to eat the plants, but the last thing I want is shitty little bug buds...

I'm not positive, but I'm pretty sure those are aphids. I don't think they are really much of a pest. I kinda remember something about these being good bugs??????

[Garden Knowm]

Those are aphids. Defintiley not spidermites.

Hey KON... OPIE is one of very very few people to get rid of spidermites. He is the BUG KILLING expert in my opinion. USE the pest strips and say... good bye to your bugs.. send them to their next incarnation..

iloveyou

[Garden Knowm]

OOOPS, but aphids are ot GOOD bugs.. nless you think it is good to eat plants.. i guess he is not an expert at bugs.. just killing them.. LOL

iloveyou

[trippruss]

i swear by 'em. been using them for a cpl of yrs now. r

[Aaron385]

yea kill those bastards fast!!!! They clone themselfs and can multiply by the thousands every day and they are fucken hell to get rid of.. I have thrown every freaken chemical treatment including pest strips at them and lost.. untill.. local spiders (the big eight legged kind) found them all on their own, spun webs around my grow area and went to town.. ate the fuck out of the aphids and in a week or two after the spiders showed up no more aphids.. NONE.. but now there are spiders all over my house.. and I hate spiders but for now they are welcome houseguests.

[Opie Yutts]

Isn't that typical of how man has been trying to control nature for years? You bring in a bird to eat flies, but now you have a bird problem. You bring in big bats to eat the birds, but now you have a bat problem, and a fly problem from the rotting bird flesh.

[mendokid]

I won't knock pest strips if they work, are cheap and readily available, but for those who would rather go the natural route dig this.

I had an ongoing spider mite infestation for years. Every time I thought I had it taken care of, they would reappear. I tried spider mite predators but that was too costly and simply didnâ??t work for me. Then the safe soaps did a number on them but still didnâ??t wipe them all out. Next up for trial was a product called â??Patrolâ?� (Beauveria bassiana) this is a fungus you spray on your plants and when it comes in contact with the bugâ??s body it grows spores inside them, and eats them from the inside out. After a week each infected bug dies and their body becomes a little puff ball of death, releasing spores when any fellow spider mite crosses its path. This highly contagious fungus program worked great but when I went back for the second bottle they were out. It was then that the grow store salesman directed me to what has become my final solution.

Neem Seed Oil.

Not only did it quickly wipe out all the bugs, I understand it breaks down fast too, making late spraying possible. To make it even better I read that it â??Disruptsâ?� the bugsâ?? life cycle making re-infestation less likely. Must be why I still donâ??t see anything months later even without reapplication. This product is natural, relatively cheap, and even wiped out a nasty armored scale infestation I had on some household plants.

If you can get a hold of this stuff I would give it serious consideration above and beyond chemical options. There is however a weird smell, but not all together too unpleasant. Some may even like it.

Happy bug killing! :)

[BOYZNUS]

Opie Yutts, YOU ARE THE BOMB.

AFTER READING THIS THREAD, I PUT A STRIP IN EACH OF MY ROOMS.

AFTER 2 WEEKS, I SEE ABSO-FUCKING-LUTLY NOTHING MOVING ON THE PLANTS.

I SEE HALF HATCHED EGGS. ALSO NON HATCHED EGGS. AND DEAD MITES.

AFTER 2 WEEKS, I TAKE THE STRIPS OUT.

THEY ONLY COST $5.95 AT HOME DEPOT.

SAVED ME HOURS OF WORK AND I NOW HAVE ALL MY HAIR. ( I QUIT PULLING IT OUT).

THNX FOR THE INFO.

[Stickyplant]

Okay.... All my lady bigs are dead for the year....so....

So here are a couple of questions I have not seen covered in this thread.

1. How close to harvest would you do this? (or not do this)
I am likely 3-6 weeks from harvest.

2. Do you need to rinse or wash the plant/bud or anything in the room after use?

3. How do you get the eggs off so you can smoke?

4. If you enter the room after putting it out... should you shower and or remove and clean clothing?

Thanks

[BOYZNUS]

OPPIE YUTTS,,, WHERE ARE YOU??

HOPE ALL IS WELL.

WANTED TO UPDATE YOU ON THE NO PEST STRIP ORDEAL.

[THC7]

Ok I started this thread and have read all that was said and I finaly got rid of those bastards for good I hope because I haven't seen a single one through this harvest and almost finished with it. Here's how I got rid of the som-bitches. I bombed with Pyrethrum first and then 4 days later bombed again so I would get the new hatchlings. Then I sprayed Kelthane 2 days later which I think is the key to get rid of them. The no-pest strips did not work for me and maybe because the room is to big. I had 3 in my room for 6 months and they still multiplied. I pulled all mothers and started with new ones because they were loaded also. I tried the bombs before and slowed them down but when I added the Kelthane to it they all went away. All was done when I was in 1st week of bloom.

[Fleye]

Being the cheap skate I am, I assure you that I have tried every home remedy, ever pestaside, (short of nukeing) and I end up with only two words for you..PREDATOR MITES!
Yeah, they are a little costly but nothing compairs to the results. I have seen a garden heavly infected with si
spider mites, you know , the leaves are brightly poka dotted with the yello bite marks, well I have seen predator mites complety turn around the health of the garden. :dance:
And, if your sadistic enough, watching the predators chase, capture, and distroy (eat) the spiders, can be very entertaing through the use of a maganifing glass

[leeuk]

hi guys ,i am a newbe to the site from the uk,and after reading your responses to these pest strips i have done my best to find them here in the uk,only to have come up with nothing.if someone could post me a link to were i can purchase some,i would be very greatfull as im in week 5 of 12/12 scrogging cheese under a 600w hps,and as you can emagine trying to spray the entire underside of my leaves with spidermite control or spray safe is litrelly impossible.thankyou all and may i add what a great site you have ,leeuk

[razzapiggy]

Great thread, I am interested to see more opinions. I read everything... I am kind of sold on those pest strips, however I just put a buncha lady bugs in my room, will the pest strips kill the lady bugs? Have to assume so.

[Alaric]

The weed gods gave us HID lighting and "AVID"--------only thing I've ever tried------worked great-----one application. The toxin for these critters is absorbed into the plant tissue and stays awhile------so DON"T apply after flowering.

Small bottles were sold at african violets.com-----didn't check for site.

Alaric

[Opie Yutts]

The weed gods gave us HID lighting and "AVID"--------only thing I've ever tried------worked great-----one application. The toxin for these critters is absorbed into the plant tissue and stays awhile------so DON"T apply after flowering.

Small bottles were sold at african violets.com-----didn't check for site.

Alaric

Thanks, I've wondered where you can get that, because no real stores around here will sell it without a bunch of hoops to jump through, and even then, probably not. If I had an infestation so bad that the strips would not kill the mites, and that would have to be pretty bad, I would try Avid, if I could get it. I have no doubt this works well. I may also consider bombing.

[palerider7777]

http://boards.cannabis.com/hydroponics/124827-what-do-we-know-about-spider-mites.html#post1545495

[the image reaper]

Great thread, I am interested to see more opinions. I read everything... I am kind of sold on those pest strips, however I just put a buncha lady bugs in my room, will the pest strips kill the lady bugs? Have to assume so.

I would agree that your ladybugs are in deep trouble ... but, I swear by the No-Pest Strips, been using them for 30 years, NEVER had an insect around my plants ... and, no adverse health affects, either, (I'd bet all three of my testicles on that) :D

[alamagic]

My remedy for spider mites is sand and vodka :yippee:

[alamagic]

they get drunk on the vodka, get into a rock fight and stone each other to death ::S2:

[Opie Yutts]

That is funny. I can just see the little bastards throwing bits of sand at each other.

[Opie Yutts]

OK, maybe you should read this. About half way down I go into some detail about spider mites. It may answer some questions in this thread. There are pictures and links.

http://boards.cannabis.com/hydroponics/64107-spider-mites-3.html

Other than pesticides, there is really only one thing that works well, and that is preditor mites. They are expensive. Use at least double the recommended dose. And by "works well", I mean for good. The "no more applications needed" kind of "works well". Anything else may work, but as far as I know, not for good.

Real simple:

In order of preference, with most prefered at the top.
unsafe and effective:
- No Pest strips
- Avid
- Perithium boms
safe and effective:
- preditor mites
- other preditors

ALL ELSE SHALL FAIL TO COMPLETELY RID YOUR GROW OF MITES IN ONE TRY AND FOR GOOD!

Good Lord, looking back I can't believe all the hours I wasted fiddling around with neem oil. The first couple of times I was so dissapointed after a few days of the treatment. I thought they were gone from the neem oil, but it only brought them back more resistant to neem oil, and madder than hell at me. They all banded together and were determined to really screw me over even more this time.

[Big len]

I used a product called smc it is a concentrate mix with water and spray mine are doing just fine, they are checked daily at several places all I can find are the dead.

[GoldenGoblin]

For your learning pleasure:
Advanced - Pests and Disease control
Spider mites (http://www.cannabis.com/growing/pests-spider-mites.html)
What does a spidermite web look like? (http://www.cannabis.com/growing/pests-what-does-a-spidermite-web-look-like.html)
Spider Mites And Their Control (http://ohioline.osu.edu/hyg-fact/2000/2012.html)

[Alaric]

The weed gods gave us AVID--------follow directions and DO NOT spray on during flowering. Kills them ALL dead because the chemicals are absorbed into the plant tissue. Best bug killer I've ever tried.

http://www.hortchemicals.com/products.asp?pn=069

Alaric

[rastaman79]

does any body know what the uk version of the "no pest strip" is? we get fly papers, but i dont think they have toxins in them,the flys just stick and die.cant seem to get the chemicals you americans can.could any one supply an american web address that would mail to england please? thanks.

[Opie Yutts]

Sorry rastaman, can't help you there. I would imagine there has got to be a place. Start asking around your home and garden centers, or perhaps farm stores. Otherwise I suggest that it would be worth it to order some from accross the ocean.

[Opie Yutts]

I was curious. I found this:

These guys ship worldwide, including UK
Polsteins Home & Beyond @ Amazon.com: No pest strip (http://www.amazon.com/s/ref=nb_ss_/103-6456157-1742211?initialSearch=1&url=me%3DADFRQ5K4I2LNR&field-keywords=No+pest+strip)

[bl4mm0]

I've been using this "Zero Tolerance" stuff from Ed that has seemed to help me with some small patches of powdery mildew. It smells like a strong mixture of concentrated cinnamon and rosemary. Not that bad of a smell really.

Ed Rosenthal's Zero Tolerance Natural Garden Solutions (http://www.z-tolerance.com/product.html)

I later found a few spider mites and it seems to knock them back pretty well also. The most important part IMO is to use something organic/natural as possible. After all you will be ingesting it eventually.

[palerider7777]

I would agree that your ladybugs are in deep trouble ... but, I swear by the No-Pest Strips, been using them for 30 years, NEVER had an insect around my plants ... and, no adverse health affects, either, (I'd bet all three of my testicles on that) :D

lmfao nice one and where do u get those strips??i have sum yellow sticky pads i got from the dro shop but it says on them use for whiteflys bugs spiders so im guessing they work for the mites to or are the strips u have diffrent>?? i have no mites or bugs on my indoor stuff but iv'e noticed outside
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i have sum pepper,carrots,watermelon plants growing and the watermelon vines i noticed yesterday on the leafs were webbed up on sum and lil black seed looking things in a cluster and the leafs around them were brown im guessing it a bug/mite of sum sort i did'nt see any bugs but i mixed sum neem oil and dawn soap with water like it said on the bottle and sprayed them all down so i hope it helps i know soap water kills grub worms maybe it helps with other bugs/mites as well im guessing that mites/bugs only like certin plants??as my pepper and other plants are untouched??

[AngMng]

Greetings fellows.I live in Greece and I m a victim of spider mites as well.I had no idea those little mofos exist before I experiment with plants on my own.
My beautiful little Lowryder Babies have just sprout the little female indication hair under their leaves.However one warm morning i seen on them some tiny black monsters on it.I didn't notice that little white dots on the leaves earlier damn it.Anyway I got a ready to use medication for my plants with pyrethrum and butoxide piperonyl and some m.g.k. inside but after a lot of reading it's not yet clear to me (as I m new into this)

1)What's the spraying frequency arrangement I should use?
2)Should I do it when lights go out or not?
3)I once drown a whole nest of ants because they ate my radish I assure you i m gonna bake those spider mites :gunfighter2:.They not gonna get stoned on my plant i tell you
4)How long has it been since you relaxed with a spliff at your backyard under the starlit sky feeling noon's breeze with a laptop posting to cannabis dot com?

Thank you.

[databcs]

Have to ask.... I am nearing the end of my bloom cycle and I just noticed the mites. I know where they came from and there are not that many. I seem to be sold on this no pest strip. My air is contained pretty well so I think it should work well for me. If anyone can tell me a reason not to do this tonight please do.

[bl4mm0]

I've heard that the "no pest strips" are very effective. I do however, question the contamination factor to the plants. I would not want to use them during the bloom cycle.

I just harvested a week early last weekend because of some spider mites. I got really lucky, because I found a bunch of unhatched eggs that would have probably taken over the crop had I waited. I went over every millimeter (with a magnifying glass) of the buds to make sure there were none inside. Found only a few, but the mites for the most part tend to stay on the leaves. (in my experience)

[Opie Yutts]

No pest strips are not the same as the yellow sticky pads, which will do nothing except help prevent them from coming in, assuming you know where that is. And as I mentioned many times before, the strips are not safe. That is why they work so well. Do not use during the last 2 or 3 weeks of flowering.

[demonicronz]

opie, you are a funny mofo. just got a few mites from going to my buddies house to watch his shit when he was gone.bad idea.anyway...strips away!

[Opie Yutts]

Thanks, I try. Sometimes.

Sorry to hear about your infestation. Get on it quick. They spread sooo fast. In one of my posts I mention burning your clothes and bathing in neem oil or hydrochloric acid before coming into your house after visiting an infested house. I was not kidding.

Please let us know how the strips worked out for you. Just remember to use as little ventilation as possible for the 4 or 5 days or so that you will need to break the growth cycle. You don't have to turn it completely off, just down if possible and off at night. I don't know your ventilation needs, but it would even be worth it to use less light for a few days if you have huge fans for the heat from the lights or something.

[smokingjoe2929]

The strips did not work for me at all. I am going to give it another 24 hours and then i am going to spray.

[Opie Yutts]

Most of the people who say the strips didn't work have a real big unenclosed room and/or lots of ventilation. Did you follow the directions, then double the amount? Did you turn off /down your fans for a few days? The rest of the people that say they didn't work failed to buy the correct product. Are you using No-Pest Strips made by Spectracide? Actually I think there is another brand that works now. Scratch that. Are you using a yellow thing about 10 inches long, with an active ingredient called Dichlorvos? That's what you need to be looking for - it's some dangerous nasty stuff.

[Opie Yutts]

PS. If you can't get the proper strips to work, I highly recommend bombing. Spraying is temporary, bombing is more permanent.

[smokingjoe2929]

I am growing them in an enclosed space with what i thought was little ventalation. After 2-3 days the spots started slowing down in appearance. Its been 5-6 days now and i had really restricted the air flow in there. I also moved the strip around from the floor to the ceiling "only 6 feet" high.
I bought the hotshot brand that contains the Dichlorvos. I was wondering how long i needed to keep it up. atleast a week 8 days?
I am using wide spectrum fluorescent bulbs suplemented with regular light bulbs 60 watt for light and warmth. Temp is around 75- 76F when lights are on 42-47% humidity. 68F when lights are off. I wish i could send pictures. I looked and couldn't see any mites. I did see a little tiny straight web or two on differant plants. I used a cheap magnifing glass but still saw no mites. Except fot lots of little white spots.
Thanks for the help.

[Opie Yutts]

Hey joe, if you see no mites, what makes you think the strips didn't work?

All of my mites were dead overnight, then within about 2 days all the babies that tried to hatch were dead as well, half out of the egg. It was in a 3'x3'x9' space. You just need to keep using the strip until you see no more mites coming out of eggs, and no fresh eggs, and of course no mites.

[BuzzPion]

Another believer here! :thumbsup:

Saw the start of mites yesterday. I think they just hatched as there were not that many and they were really small. Found a post by Opie and bought a No Pest Strip at Ace. Stuck it in the enclosure yesterday and today I can't find any mites, dead or otherwise. I have a grow tent that is 3X2X6 feet. I didn't even turn down the inline vent fan.

I can't smell a thing either (except that damn *skunk* family that lives under the house).

[allrollsin21]

I would try to avoid a dip in the beginning as a preventative. I have had bad luck with that. It was diluted and still more than a few plants died, and the others went through a pretty tough illness from it. Spraying is a little less drastic and should be preventative enough.

[Opie Yutts]

That's weird. There should be no illness of any kind from dipping a plant unless you keep the lights close afterward, and the leaves get burn spots. Dipping is the exact same as spraying, except it covers everything instead of half or less. I've had terrible luck with spraying because it basically does nothing. If you leave just one male and one female, your still screwed.

[8182KSKUSH]

I am going to Home Depot tomorrow/today! :thumbsup:

[Pfimike]

I have been told by many people I hold as good sources of information (meaningless none the less) that growing Chili Peppers in with your plants will aid in preventing a mite infestation. As they dislike the pepper plants... any thoughts on this..

[Opie Yutts]

I've heard that too, but of course it will not rid your grow of mites like toxins will. Mites and other insects don't like spicy hot stuff, but (just guessing here) I think the mites will exist on the weed plants and steer clear of the hot plants. Spider mites are very resilient.

[gonejah17]

thanks opie, lets hope this saves a noob with his first infestation!!!

Ill let u know, and thanks again, this might be the best info on the web about this!!

[fishman3811]

You know what got do what opie says and get no pest strips ...I battled spider mites for 14 months until i heard about no pest strips from opie and it worked it got rid of those fuckers for good ...I tried neem oil i tried everything under the sun and still nothing,,,,But no pest strips worked for me

[Opie Yutts]

There you go. Sounds very typical of peoples' experiences with the strips. fishman, kinda seems like I told you this before, but I love that avatar. My 4-year-old is asking what Spiderman is trying to see.

[Lanietheberner]

Avid is the only thing that I've found that works consistantly. You've got to treat your indoor space as a "germ Free lab" and everything that comes in must be treated. If you go over to a buddy's house to see his plants, then change your clothes before you go into your space.

I have treated my space with Avid purchased via ebay and found that I have only used 1/10 of the bottle. I think (it was 2 years ago) I paid $65.00 for the container that I have. It was shipped to California from Florida as you cannot purchase it locally...

I have found that as soon as you've seen that you have mites, your production will be off by 30-70% verse a crop with no mites.

It makes no sense to not use this product unless you are working Organically.

I have sprayed my bloom crop up to 3 weeks from harvest, as that's what the manufacturer has stated for leafy crops such as lettuce, and the USDA has accpeted this study, but it's usually a better idea to spray before bloom while they are still in Veg.

[Opie Yutts]

I have found that as soon as you've seen that you have mites, your production will be off by 30-70% verse a crop with no mites.

The reason you've found this to be true is because you did not run out and buy a No Pest Strip when you discovered the mites. Had you done so, they would be gone in 1 or 2 days, with very little or no loss of yield.

Avid works, there is no doubt. There is also no doubt that it should never be used during budding. It's a systemic, which means that it stays inside the plant and continues to work for weeks. I would also not use the strips during budding. Both contain deadly toxic poisons.

[Lanietheberner]

I just wonder how well the no-pest-strips actually work, (hanging from the ceiling?) they are (in mite terms) miles away away from the source of the problem and I just worry about the mites having to climb up to them....

We've tried neem and enstein oil, and they both are a waste of time and money. They may help in controlling, but do nothing for eradication

I've had good experience using nematodes for gnats, but I've aways been one who uses a hammer for installing new batteries in my watch, so your recommendation may just work!!!!

I'll give it a try it if these little varments show up again! Thanks for your suggestions!:thumbsup:

[Opie Yutts]

Well once again, the mites don't try to climb to the strips. They do the opposite. The strips fill the air with a toxin and the mites die no matter where they are. For me the adults were dead overnight, then the babies as they hatched within another day or two. It's kinda like bombing, only a lot easier. You don't have to hang the strips, you can stand them up like I did. Don't confuse these yellow strips with the ones that have adhesive on them, which are worthless for eradication.

[PlantHeadJ]

Those miserable @##%er's I hate spider mites. I have figured out a few things about them. First they need only one female to reproduce. Second the warmer it is the more offspring they can produce. Third whatever you hit them with, the survivor's offspring will be resistant to that method. So we have a tough SOB. First I like to spray a little H2O2 solution all over those buggers. This kills on contact and really knocks them back. Now I crank up the CO2 to 10,000 ppm for two hours and giggle. This I repeat weekly and I don't even have a spider in the corner. I also never enter the room wearing clothes that have been outside. Still once and a while the little creeps show up. Oh well I kill em dead. Good luck and thanks Opie for the tips!

[fishman3811]

Opie thanks im glad you get a kick out of my avatar.Tell your son spidermans senses are tingling but dont know from where or what......

[fishman3811]

Ohh i also use no pest strips to get rid of fungas knats seems to work....

[jackstone58]

whats the best kind of pest strips to use? and as far as toxic chemicals anything we shouldnt be using n smoking,..???

[Opie Yutts]

As far as I know there's only two brands of Pest Strip (one's a NO Pest Strip). As long as the active ingredient is Dichlorvos (sp?), you've got the right one. It is toxic, don't smoke it. I understand not wanting to read the whole thread, but I've said many times that I would not use these very far into flowering. I would control them with neem dips, and then kill em once I harvest. Personally, I wouldn't want to smoke neem either, but many people don't seem to mind.

[ibmag]

Hey There:
Just got my Avid after waiting a longgggggg time but back to my dilemma. Nobody that I know, know's how to mix it and when to spray it. The when isn't hard to figure (that would be when you first see the little critters), and I understand that it should preferablly be done in veg. What I need to know is:
1, Mixture per litre/gallon. HOW MANY DROPS?
2. Spraying schedule.
I've got about 10 that I've had outside as well as being all cloned up an just about to start up again and get everything INSIDE, but was waiting for this product to arrive.
Any assistance on this would be MUCHLY APPRECIATED!

[Opie Yutts]

Sorry, I'd like to help but I can't really. I'm a pest strip kinda guy and haven't used avid. Are there no directions, or a link to web site info?

[rhizome]

1.2 ml/gallon. Toss in a drop of dish soap as a wetting agent. Use w/in 12 hours of mix.Usually a single app will take care of problem. Remains active in vivo 21 days. Application more than monthly leads to resistance.

Do not breathe mist or allow solution to contact skin. I'd advise a respirator rated for organic vapors, and chem-resistant gloves. Avid concentrate will go right thru latex, as well as a lot of plastics.

Aerate unused solution for several days, ideally in direct sunlight, to decompose abamectin before disposal. Treat waste as hazmat, which it is. Don't just dump leftovers- shit can trash an ecosystem

Honestly, use the Avid to take care of a big infestation, then go back to management chemistry. That way, when you have a big problem again, Avid will still work.

[Opie Yutts]

Wow.

[Sean71]

dammmmmmmmmmmmmm i got them little bastards bad and i am at the change 18/6 to 12/12.so make it clear what should i do.i have 5 grows they all have the little shits,i have tried everything.SO PLEASE TELL ME WHAT TO DO!!!I AM AN ESTBLISHED GROWER AND I HAVE NEVER HAD SPIDER MITES TILL THIS GO AROUND!!!!!AND I HAVE EVEN HAD ADVICE FROM SOMA AND IT HAS NOT WORKED!!!!SO TELL ME WHAT TO DO NOW?/

[Opie Yutts]

Well if you've read the threads much you should know what to do, but I guess I'll say it once again.

No pest strip
insecticide bombs
Avid
Spider mite destroyers (beneficial insect)

The first on the list is the easiest, and works like a charm 9 times out of 10. If it doesn't work, you are not using enough or you didn't turn down your ventilation for a couple days, or your particular mite has developed a resistance to Dichlorvos.

The last on the list is extremely expensive, but you can use it right up until harvest. I would at least double the recommended dosage if you want it to be sure to work. Triple if you have a bad infestation, which doesn't take long if you don't keep it in check.

Anything other than what's on the list will not get rid of the mites, but some things like neem oil are used to help with control.

NOTE: Kill them quick. They spread fast.

[irielights]

I hate em like everyone else and those bastards can get immune to chemicals if you keep using the same one. When i had a horrible infestation i used everyones methods, all kinds of soap, pyrytheum, bombs and miteicides. Nothing freaking worked. If your infestation is super bad you might have gone through the sae thing. The only thing that worked for me was getting rid of any excess plant matter. Even if the leaf is not dead but you see hundreds of specs rittled with mites then get rid of the leaf. No point in keeping food for the mites. I had to strip my girls alot cuz it was so infested. Then i searched and searched and picked me up a bottle of almighty "floramite" and knocked all of those bitches out. Now I do a weakly preventitive insect soap and once a month use the floramite for another preventive treatment. Floramite is $300.00 a qt. but you need only a 1/2 tsp. per gallon of water. Then after all your buddies see how effective this stuff is, you can sell it to them. hehe. You have to remember to do a soap or other miteicide with different chemicals in between your monthly "floramite" treatment so the mites can never get immuned to it. Hope this helps

[irielights]

o yah, remember to always spray anything in the dark, or buy a green light because the spectrum ofgreen lights dont promote photosynthesis. And now you're not completely in the dark. literally.

[8182KSKUSH]

my only experience with them the no pest strips worked quick fast and in a hurry!
cheap too!

[Weezard]

Well if you've read the threads much you should know what to do, but I guess I'll say it once again.

No pest strip
insecticide bombs
Avid
Spider mite destroyers (beneficial insect)

The first on the list is the easiest, and works like a charm 9 times out of 10. If it doesn't work, you are not using enough or you didn't turn down your ventilation for a couple days, or your particular mite has developed a resistance to Dichlorvos.

The last on the list is extremely expensive, but you can use it right up until harvest. I would at least double the recommended dosage if you want it to be sure to work. Triple if you have a bad infestation, which doesn't take long if you don't keep it in check.

Anything other than what's on the list will not get rid of the mites, but some things like neem oil are used to help with control.

NOTE: Kill them quick. They spread fast.

Aloha, O.Y.

Just read through this thread
You are a very patient person.
I would have given up and said good luck by the second page.
Looks like you actually got through to a few.:thumbsup:

Let me guess.
You once taught grade school for a living, ya? :D

Where were you in '98, when I lost an entire grow to mites?;)

Thanks for the pearls, brah
Weezard

[Opie Yutts]

Thanks for the kind words Weezard. No I didn't teach school, but I do have a 4-year-old boy. In 98 I was flat on my back on the floor of my apartment, waiting to hear if I could get on a government health plan and have back surgery. I was in excruciating pain for 2 months, and then they said, "well you could have had the surgery, then if you were accepted to the program we would have reimbursed you." Yeah. If I had the money, I wouldn't need the government health plan, and not only that, I wouldn't qualify for it. Anyway it wasn't until soon after that I started seriously growing, and learning about things like spider mites.

[Fender0336]

If you want to continue the rest of your natural born days as a weed farmer to battle them, then go ahead and do the stuff mentioned above. If you want to spend 30 seconds to get rid of them for good, then follow this advice: Buy a No Pest Strip (at Fred Meyer, Walmart, etc.) and set it in your grow room for 3 days, then when your light cycle changes to bloom then next time, and the little bastards come out to play again, do it again. At this point all your spider mites will be gone for good.

.

Hi there just a quick question for ya.....do the no pest strips need to be specifically for spider mites or just any no pest strip in general?

[B4uisbg]

Thanks for the compliments guys. Ziggy, as far as I know the only brand and model that will work for mites is the one in my scan above: Spectracide's No Pest Strip. A couple years ago this was a greeen and yellow package. I don't think the package has changed because when I did a search I found them at the hardware store that I linked above.
In regards to opie and knowm about the strips

PAN Product Info for Hot shot no pest strip (http://pesticideinfo.org/Detail_Product.jsp?REG_NR=00548100348&DIST_NR=008845)


Don't know if this was posted or not, haven't got to the end yet, just wanted to do it before I forgot. At the bottom of the page it says
Distributor Names for Alco small pest strip

Product names Distributor Product Type Approval Date Cancellation Date
Alco small pest strip Amvac chemical corporation Parent Product Oct 18, 1988 Active
Bio-strip pest strip Amvac chemical corporation Distributor Product Nov 15, 1988 May 6, 2004
Bio-strip pest strip Amvac chemical corporation Distributor Product Feb 7, 1989 Active
Hot shot no pest strip Amvac chemical corporation Distributor Product Sep 30, 1997 Active
Hot shot ultimate bug killer for small spaces Amvac chemical corporation Distributor Product Sep 30, 1997 Active
Hot shot ultimate moth killer Amvac chemical corporation Distributor Product Sep 30, 1997 Active
Spectracide bug stop pest strip Amvac chemical corporation Distributor Product Sep 30, 1997 Active



So they are the same thing.

[12345-54321]

Hello,

I too have had my share of mite adventures, they are annoying, little, and crafty.

I installed pest strips in all my boxes, veg & flower after my latest outbreak, but yesterday noticed a huge outbreak on my mother Halloween plant.

I was able to repot it anyhow, can I dunk my mother underwater to eliminate them, or would soaps and sprays be better?

Growing is hard enough without these little fu*kers.

[vipper13]

Hey opie i have a huge question for you. I am looking for these strips and im in canada, Ive asked around and they say they dont allow them here so i found something else from VAPONA called No pest strips but they say its for killing flying insects. i dont understand how it could be for only flying insects when the active ingredient is 20% and thats the same percentage as hot shots has. Do you think these other ones will stil work please reply because im thinking about going to the states just to pick these things up.

[jungleboy]

I have 3-4 weeks left before harvest...and an infestation has exploded...what can be done to save me? I have already removed 1 that was covered and smothered... I have used a spray of 90% alcohol and water mix to aid in killing some...but the infestation is to large and I need to do something before everything is to far gone. Any suggestions could be helpful. Is it to late in the cycle for the pest strips? Please Help
:(

[highasfunk]

here's my 2 cents:

i've been battling spider mites for over a year now and have spent big bucks on neem and predatory mites. i must have some badass mites because we never could seem to get rid of them.

this time i hit the clones from said plants daily with bug be gone once they rooted in. after they got about a foot tall and looked strong i mixed a 5 gallon bucket of floramite, cut paper plates to hold the dirt in the pots, and inverted and dipped the entire plants in the floramite solution. a couple more weeks of veg and the i'll kick the lights back. i'm not expecting to see spider mites again although i might be proactive and dump a couple predatory colonies on this batch. floramite is cool in that it doesn't kill your beneficial mites.

p.s. i found someone selling individual ounces of floramite on a popular auction site......$25 ounce beats the hell out of a $300 quart and this stuff goes a long way...1/4 to 1/2 teaspoon per gallon.

[KillCaustic]

Well, I am going to give this no pest strip thing a try. Please, please let it work! :(

[M.B.A.]

I was told that I have a small case of spider mites. How the hell can you get rid of them? Thanks for any input.:confused:

NO PEST STRIP by HotShot brand

[Cyclonite]

Anyone who wants a good way should try 10,000 ppm of co2 for 1 hr....this will require a sealed box big enough for the plant in question, tank solinoid regulator and flow meter....use a web site to calculate ppm and cut a small hole in sealed box with plastic over it acting as a check valve to allow for air to go out while filling to desired co2 level.

[8182KSKUSH]

I heard that no pest strips work really good too. I have never had mites yet since using them.
LOl:D

[detroitfish]

your lucky kush

[Cyclonite]

Hey u stole my avatar

[Big len]

follow opies advice tried several grows ago no more of them little bastards, always first item on my list.

[tip302327]

Mites were a problem for years and I used everything + some. Finally bought the no pest strips from walmart. with in 3 weeks, not a mite to be found. I keep them in the garden 24-7. If I bring in a new plant, I smiply keep it out of the garden for 2 weeks with a fresh strip. Problem solved. Feel like a idiot now after spending many $$$$$ and for $5 the problem is solved.

[12345-54321]

arhh.

I just talked to the local hardware store and they said that they weren't getting more hot shot pest strips because the company folded... anyone have a good alternate? I running down to grab the last 2 right now..... shit they are the bomb for spider mites......

[the image reaper]

try looking around at other stores, my local Safeway grocery store still has them, and the Walmart did, too (last time I looked) also Ace Hardware stores ... I just now 'Googled' it, the manufacturer's website doesn't say anything about being unavailable ... if not, gas the bastards with any 'pyrethrin'-based pesticide (it's safe, pyrethrins made from marigold extract, read the instructions carefully) ... :smokin:

[12345-54321]

Yeh, the lady at ace said that they weren't getting more, just checked the corporate site, and they filed for chpt 11 on 2/3/09, but their FAQs claim that the product will still be available, maybe after a slight delay.... hope so, I'm finally getting a grip on the spider insanity....

Spectrum Brands Communication (http://www.spectrumbrands.com/communication/)

You'd think that they would be doing great these days......

:smokin:

[the image reaper]

aaahh, OK ... my local stores probably just haven't 'sold-out' all their stock yet ... maybe you'll find some leftovers, elsewhere ... meanwhile, it's always fun to take tweezers, and pull the little bastards' teeth out ;) ... good luck :thumbsup:

[haole007]

great thread. i found my way here via Azatrol research.

opie, you my hero! ima go find these gizmos.

although i have just a slight SM issue, i hate them, and all other pests.I have yet to see a web, but i have seen the discoloration spots. and of course, i have spied the buggas under a 60X scope.

i try to keep my soil garden as organic as possible, but the daily grind using organics and manual removal really sux. I have VERY little problems in veggie area, but will employ one of these pest strips in there, after they're done in bloom area.

i hate spraying anything on the girls ceptin water with a touch of liquid seaweed during veggie days, and no spray after switch to bloom, but...

Einstein Oil (cold pressed Neem oil) does seem to keep population to a minimum, but i don't like it's smell. Don't Bug Me has those pyrethreum (sp) stuffs, and label says you can apply up to day of harvest. i have used sparingly up to 4 days b4 harvest, and used my friend as guinea pig. he is beyond child rearing days, and hasn't grown any new limbs, or a 3rd eye.

Azatrol is another tool in what Opie describes as (paraphrase) a never-ending-daily-battle against SM. i have used it, with no apparent side effects on my buddy.

i always wear gloves, and a bandana over my nose/mouth when playing with einstein, DBM, and Azatrol.

BUT WHY??? i'll put one of these on opposite side of room from exhaust, and redirect my intake (deflect air away from strip's area).

hmmm...1200 cu ft. ... one or two strips???

oh well, i'll report back.

(genuflect towards OPIE)

[the image reaper]

one strip will be enough for an entire large room, garage, etc ... :thumbsup:

[haole007]

woohoo! while making a walk to the post office, i thought i'd check small-town hardware to see if they carried any Dichlorvos pest strips. Presto! i bought two for about 8 bucks each.

i left exhaust on, turn intake away, and placed one "strip" on floor (approx 1200cuFT). it has a nice base, and an option to hang it. i'll turn oscillating fan off for next 3 hours, and will turn it back on b4 girls go night-night.

i, probably, will leave it in there 24/7 until i notice any desired effect.

Hot Shot brand, by Spectrum Group in England.
18.6% Dichlorvus... 65 grams net weight.

The hardware had at least one more left (i bought two), but after reading more, i will go grab what they have left, and stash them.

LOTSA great information on this site, TYVM>

[MrLeeHolloway]

Hey, I'm about to do the no pest strips. I read this whole thread and decided to go with it. But I was wondering how I would go about watering and checking up on my plants with one of those in there. Or is this something that doesn't come to mind for you guys? (Not trying to sound like an ass)

[haole007]

i'm not sure, but i'll share with you my thoughts.

if you really paranoid, go in and quickly put them in zip locks, then go back in couple hours.

after reading a couple reports on Dichlorvus written by scientific types, i am not concerned for the plants.

as for myself, i put two in my bloom room yesterday, after a good watering.

i have about 1200 cu feet (12x12x8' ), and use a 480cfm exhaust with large canfan filter. i left the exhaust on, turned ascillating fan down, and left space immediately.

this morning, i went in for fast visit, wore a bandana on my face, didnt smell anything. returned to this forum, read all posts again, and decided that ill run all fans until saturday night, and ill turn off exhaust for 12 hours, then sunday, ill go in, put strips in zip locks, and do some close examining.

although my SM issue is very minor, i seem to have to DAILY wash, clean, spray, etcetcetc.,

i am hoping these strips save me alot of time and effort.

i must admit that there are 3 girls in there that are close to finish, and 5 in week 4 of bloom, so im taking a chance on my buddy's health with any taint that these strips MIGHT (mite) leave on cured product. but he has survived neem, pyrethrium, and azatrol, so i doubt this will hurt him.

i will NOT stop using neem in veggie state, and i will still spray them HEAVILY just b4 they are transplanted into 3 gallon pots, and sent to bloom.

good luck with your efforts, keep me posted.

[MrLeeHolloway]

So I went into my veg room today. I was never overwhelmed by them but I like to act fast with all my problems (cultivation or not). I have 3 kali mist mom's, 10 blue dream babies, and 12 kali mist babies (babies meaning 1 week out of clone). They are red and blue party cups. I was waiting to get my bug problem solved before transplanting into 2 gallon pots. These are all in a complete separate room than my flowering girls. I noticed the mites on a couple of KM babies. I tried a few different methods before originally posted. Before the No-Pest Strip I drenched everything in neem on a consistant cycle, changed the temp and humidity conditions against the mite, unleased HELLA ladybugs.. Nothing above did shit.

It's been about 3 days since putting the strip in there and I'm half amazed. Since this is an organic grow I was reluctant to get something with toxins and shit, but I needed this handled fast. But ya... it killed EVERYTHING (bug wise). All the ladybugs are on their backs dead, the spider mite spreading has stopped, and it even killed a spider that was chillin' in the corner of the room. I say half amazed because I knew that something with those chemicals would work. Now if it were all natural strips that would be awesome. But I'm still very thankful for Opie's posts and those who have also tried. I'll be spread the word about this shit

[VapedG13]

Avid is a pesticide that attacks and destroys the mites central nervous system and makes the mites sterile (no more eggs) it works great, normally 1 application is all you need....cost $95-135 for 8 0z bottle ....you only use 4-5 drops of avid per a 1 quart spray bottle of water.....the 8oz bottle is enough for 100 gallons of water

its translocated and stays within the plant for a month ...so spray before you flower Avid Insecticide - Greenhouse Megastore has everything you need to build, equip, and maintain a commercial, hobby, school or institutional greenhouse. (http://www.greenhousemegastore.com/Avid-Insecticide/productinfo/CH-IN-AVID/)



If you have a small grow area like a closet or a grow tent/box try the... Hot Shot no pest stripes $7 ....make sure to have a fan behind the strip to help distribute the airborn pesticide (air circulation)

If you have a intake fan and a exhaust fan.... put this by your intake fan

[SirDufus]

Here in Canada, our 'no pest strips' are different than the ones you are all referring to. I bought two and things seemed to be on the right track until today. I have little spiderwebs all over my plant that was doing wonderful a couple days ago. Thing is, I have 2 pest strips placed like about 1 foot away from the plant and they have been there for just over a week now.

Let me recap, it was doing fine and now it's full of sm all the while having 2 no pest strips formerly 'vapona' that don't seem to be working. I've attached a picture of the different product with the same name to this post...I'm off to see if I can order the USA version of this product because I'm tired of losing this fight and the Canadian one seems to be missing a critical ingredient :mad:

[MrLeeHolloway]

The active ingredient you are looking for is Dichlorvos which your product contains 19.2%. That is higher than the 18.6% I have in mine. That's very strange it didn't work. How are your grow conditions? I also cut all ventilation for only 3 days and ALL BUGS died. That was a couple weeks ago and haven't seen shit since. And if they do I'll buy another one. I dunno what's up with yours. My product is called "Hot Shot No Pest Strip"

[Divestoned]

google floramite.It's a one shot mite killin machine.

Dive:stoned:

[Pepdog07]

Just wanted to say I decided to try Opie's method of No Pest strips and have great faith in it:D. Was hoping if anyone that has used this method has made clones off a plant at the same time the strip is in the room? The reason I ask is cuss I have clones that are almost ready for flower and seedlings that are ready to clone for sex in the same room for the moment. I need to take cutting asap. Jus curious if any ill effect will result from taking cuttings off healthy (non-mited, thank god i caught the lil fuckers early) seedlings that have been exposed for 24 hours to the strips?

[jonblazing]

mites are not that bad...snap, crackle, pop...LOL

lol most of us have just blazed em up many times. :stoned: lol S2:

[phatsesh101]

be careful with avid as it works the same way on humans only slower and it never leaves the plant so u smoke it and if your on a med cocktail u might die

[SWABLR]

Stuff like this, Hot Shot No-Pest Strip, scare me. Before using please visit this page: PAN Product Info for Hot shot no pest strip (http://www.pesticideinfo.org/Detail_Product.jsp?REG_NR=00548100348&DIST_NR=008845)

[seldomBLUE]

I got MITES in my bud. WHAT SHOULD I DOOOOO? Should i let them finish completely and refrig or nuke the buds to get rid of the bstards? These two girls are so close to finishing (74 days in). I believe bud continue the life process for several days after harvest when vine or stem remain. I'm woundering if the frig would be best as it won't kill the continuing life process of the plant, just slow it down. Nuking should kill the bstards too but will it also kill the vines and stems. Has any one ever tried this to get rid of the bstards on bud? IYO, what should i do? Spraying is not an option

[kenjib]

Can you please confirm that I can use the no pest strips if I am 3/4 weeks into flowering? tyvm

[PYRO35]

IVE TRYED LOTS OF WAYS DURING THE BATTLE TO KILL AND WIN THE WAR WITH MITES THIS YEAR.....THE ONLY THING THAT WORKED FOR US.... NO PEST STRIPS !
THANKS FOR THE WONDERFUL INFORMATION !
I GOT PLANTS OVER 7 FT AND THE STRIPS KICKED THE MITES ASS !
JUST SEAL ROOM AT NIGHT AND VENT NORMAL DURING THE DAY...FOR A COUPLE DAYS TILL NO MITES.
DO AGAIN AFTER 5 DAYS TO KILL NEWLY HATCHED LITTLE BASTARDS...
WOOO HOOO MITE FREE !
THE WAR IS OVER !:rastasmoke::beatdeadhorse::asskick::chainsaw::ee k:

[DrIamStoned]

Thank you. I've been searching online for months to find an effective solution to my spider mite problem, no pest strips are the first method that worked. I've used neem oil, manual removal, and many commercial insecticides with almost no success (they all reduced the population but had to be sprayed every 7 days minimum to maintain control of the infestation).
After only 36 hours with no pest strips (the same ones SirDufus used) I can not find a single living spider mite. I used one strip in my 10'x10'x8' room and shut off the ventilation during the dark cycle. I am 3 weeks into the flowering cycle and to maintain the spider mite infestation I would had have to have sprayed until the end of bloom in order to get bud, thanks to opie I don't have to.
The plants don't seem to be affected by the strips in any way, when I was using neem oil and other pesticides, the growth rate would come to a crawl for a few days, I have observed the opposite with the strips (growth has increased, I take a lot of pictures to compare so it's not just my imagination).
I also did some research on the active pesticide in the strips (dichlorvos), it is used in greenhouses (it is used to control spider mites as well as other insects), as a treatment for certain parasites in cattle, food storage and a variety of other purposes. When used in food production the end product rarely contains traces of the pesticide, those remaining are easily removed by washing (I plan to spray my plant with water at least a week before harvest). Most of the harmful substances break down in 36 hours at the most (dichlorvos is very toxic in it's pure state). When absorbed by mammals in small concentrations, such as the no pest strips, the kidneys break down the remaining pesticide in a matter of hours .
I am not saying this product is 100% safe to use but in my opinion they are better than what I was doing before and more effective. Avid is certainly more harmful than these strips.
Thank you again, although this is an old thread I hope I am not the last to find it. I will post again with more definitive results in a few weeks.

[tiedyeray]

Help.....:( I have a bad mite problem, they never seem to go away completely. I think they have built up a tolerance to the pyrethrum bombing & Shuttle spray that I have been using and now I am ready to try anything. The pest strips seem to have a good response but I'm wondering how many pest strips to use in my flower & veg room? Also I'll be trying the alcohol mixture spray on my clones to try to keep the mites away...:mad:

[TC42o]

I just put 1 Hot Shot No Pest Strip in my 4x5 veg room last night, it was only sealed for 7 hours and 75-90% of my bugs (including my lady bugs :( ) are the only way a mite should be DEAD AS SHIT

[DrIamStoned]

I've used the no pest strips one week ago. I only put it in my room during the dark cycle, after 3 days I could not find a single living bug in the room so I removed the strip. 4-5 days later there were a few mites (probably some eggs that hatched) so I repeated the treatment, so far so good. The most effective solution I've tried so far.

[americancowboy]

what is the name of the pest strip

[TC42o]

what is the name of the pest strip




If you have a small grow area like a closet or a grow tent/box try the... Hot Shot no pest strips $7 ....



See Vaped's Post above for the Picture of what your looking for

[Skihigh]

This is my firs semi successful grow---Ever---I had mites all over my two girls and on 3 seedlings.
Didn't know what they were...bunch of white dots all over the leaves...thought they were starting to make trichs. Got a magnifying glass..about 10x i think and found the bugs..I guess I've had them for 5or 6 weeks. Went yesterday and put one pest strip in my 2' x 4' x 3' box with a computer fan blowing it around... That was 1:00 P.M yesterday....Shut the door on them and went to take a peek just 15 minutes ago...There ain't a livin', breathin' POS bug in my grow today.
!!! OPIE YUTTS !!! You shall be exhaulted! And man, talk about a cat with some patience..Thanks a bunch for all that info!.........J

[Skihigh]

Opie...Are you still around?

[Weezard]

Opie...Are you still around?

Opie hasn't been on for a while. :(

But, rep him. He sure earned it:clap:
Choose one of his posts and click the little balance scale.
You can then leave a semi-private thank you message.
Always do that when ya get good advice.:thumbsup:

It makes separation of wheat from chaff easier.
(You can put more faith in advice from da long green bar folks.)

[Skihigh]

Weezard...Thanks man...I'll get'er done........

[Weezard]

Also.

Maybe go to your profile and turn on your rep.
You have some waiting.:)

Aloha,
Weeze

[Skihigh]

Weezard... Once again,,,Thanks!!!

[tlong831]

i had a gnarly case of spider mites on flowering buds so i cut them but this time I was prepared... get florakill also known as floramite little tiny vial add 3ml per gallon makes like 25 gallons. spray this on plants during night time and boom no more mites.

the stuff is all white and smells gnarly.

[prosmokerguy]

There is some shit from australia that is fairly new. Spider mits dont have a resistance to em.

heres some shit from the site

Zen Cart!, The Art of E-commerce (http://verticalhydro.com/index.php?m...8206094d991ed5)

Spider mites destroy plant cells by sucking out their contents, and Mite-Rid works by providing a barrier which is harmless to the plant, but fatal to the mites. Some of the components of Mite-Rid are also absorbed by the plant and then suppress the life cycle of the mites. Mite-Rid uses a unique formula of botanical oils, including neem, garlic, eucalyptus plus surfactants to provide a protective barrier against many leaf eating pests, and most effectively, the Spider Mite.
The main active ingredient, neem oil, contains a limonoid called azadirachtin which has steroids (campesterol, beta-sitosterol, stigmasterol) which interrupt the normal hormonal balance of mites, suppressing its reproductive cycle. The neem oil used in Mite-Rid is cold pressed, as only oil of this quality will contain these steroids.
http://www.verticalhydro.com/images/mite.jpg

Mite-Rid is fully bio-degradable and is not toxic to animals and under normal use will not affect the plant's metabolism. Highly effective against two-spotted and red mites, Mite-Rid is also reporting success with Eriophyid mites such as the "Fuschia Gall Mite" which is endemic to parts of California and also known as the "Mendo" or "Mendocino mini". Mite-Rid comes in a concentrate form, and the 45ml bottle mixes with water to make 18 litres ( 32.7 pints) of mite killing spray.
One thorough application is usualy enough, but heavy infestations may require two, as the tiny eggs can be a bit more resilient; so we recommend a second application in these cases.
Get them before they get your plants!

They say prevention is better than cure, and just a little Mite-Rid goes a long way to preventing mite infestation. A periodic spray with Mite-Rid is the best way to never see your plants suffering an attack of spider mites.
Remember, when it's hot, and dry, mites are just a gentle breeze away from your plants, and they usually go undetected until they've multiplied to plague proportions. Just one spray every few weeks in the hottest season will protect your crop from this near invisible pest.
Whether you're an indoor grower, greenhouse grower, hydroponic grower, or outdoor grower, sooner or later the mites will find you!

Don't wait to see the damage,
get them BEFORE they get your plants!


Zen Cart!, The Art of E-commerce (http://verticalhydro.com/index.php?m...8206094d991ed5)

I used this shit because i had an infestation early. I read about it on a forum and got some. (i was lucky cuz only one retailer was even selling it in the u.s. at that point, and he had just started a month prior)

After one application everything was gone.

give this one a try if you got the mites. THIS SHIT WORKS!

[couthon]

Just wanted to add a little input to the spider mite subject because I thought of a nifty little way to control them if they are not too bad.
My roommate and I recently had an infestation of spider mites on flowering plants. We noticed them and decided to get some lady bugs to help control them, but that didn't really work no matter how many we put in there. They really just seemed to be multiplying.
So I started to research ways to be rid of them, while growing, and after they are cut. I discovered the recipe that Gen posted on the first page and decided to give it a try since the plants were only a week and a half into flowering. This recipe worked great! It knocked out almost the whole of the spider mite population. The before and after was amazing. BUT, either we did't hit some spots with spray, which is possible, or the spray didn't kill some eggs, because after a few days we noticed mites here and there. Then an idea came to me. We had just had a harvest with spider mites on the buds. This was all during this same period. I read that if you hang your plants the mites will mostly crawl to the highest point. You can then just pick off small clumps of mites. This indeed does work!
So, I was thinking of ways to trap the mites and kill them that way. Here is what I discovered. I took a fly strip - you know, one that you can hang by a tack from the ceiling. I hung it above the plants. Then, with small loops I attached segments of string to the tops of the buds. I attached the other end to the sticky portion of the fly strip. It works amazingly! The little buggers crawl right up the string and get caught on the fly strip. They were even crawling over one another only to get stuck further up the strip!
Now, our infestation was fairly small due to the spray that Gen posted, but it has kept the mights under control very nicely. I would be interested to see what this method would produce on a bad infestation.
I hope this helps and happy mite hunting :thumbsup:

[Caregivers]

I have struggling with the mites in my grow room for nearly two months, and they killed most of my crops that i am pissed off about. I have tried different methods, and i havent tried the strips and im buying it as we speak. I need to know how long should the strips stay in the grow room without killing the plants or us humans... grins

[VapedG13]

try AVID or FORBID bro.... available on ebay:thumbsup: One application is usually all you need to do....dont use these if you have less than 1 month of flower left....these pesticides are systemic and stay insde the plant for 4 weeks

Doctor Doom your grow room...remove your plants while the bomb is killin critters (2-3 hours)...... spray your plants at this time:D

Avid... mix at a rate of 6 drops per 32 oz (1 quart) spray bottle of water

Forbid mix at 4 drops per 32 oz

Apply to underside of leaves first...then tops of leaves

Babies in a dome can be sprayed without any issues

Why not leave the plants in the grtow room you ask...because the bomb wont kill the eggs that hatch every 3-4 days and reinfestion will occur

[ws23v1g]

This is my first post here and also my first crop. I have to send out a BIG thank you to Opie Yutts for his great suggestion on using the No Pest Strip in my grow room. I have 2 ladies whom I've cared many months for that I almost lost due to these little buggers. I started them outside back in late April and when they started to flower at the end of July they went indoors so I could control the light times better. Well, shortly after they went indoors I started to lose both of them to these little buggers. It went on for a couple of weeks before I was able to ID the problem. Once I figured out what was causing the slow death of my ladies I spent hours on line trying to figure out what to do....all of which was a waste of time and energy (wiping, washing, ect). It wasn't until I happened upon this thread that the ultimate answer was made clear (Opie THANK YOU MAN!)

My grow room (more like a flower room) is small...4x5x5 and I am able to seal it off well so that may account for the majority of my success. I can tell you not 12 hrs after I sealed up the room and installed just one of those No Pest Strips the little buggers were GONE! It works like a charm. Since my plants are 5 weeks into flowering I didn't have the time to nuke 'em so this was my last option.

THANK YOU OPIE! YOU SAVED MY FIRST GROW! I will dedicate my first joint from the harvist to ya bud! Thanks a ton!


:smokin:

[moonsta]

im new here n just found this thread, it took me long enuff. im in the uk n im in need of a no pest strip, but uk has banned it due to a chemical used in it, does any1 have the next best thing i cud use. iv tried all kind of sprays but i want the killer stuff, any1 no the equivalent to no pest strips in the uk, need it asap as iv got infestation n they spreadin, iv tried lot of fings n they really pissin me off now, im itchin rite now thinkin of the little fooka's. hope sum1 in uk see's this n can help.
thanks for readin

i just read through this thread n found that no 1 else can get owt from uk, accept forthat > zero tolerance, so will giv it a blast, i feel iv already lost the battle so will try owt now, mite even try fly killer spray lol. but i may go for the smoke bomb, hmm wud that effect owt seein as im 4-5 weeks from harvest ?

[cranston1]

I'm never concerned about mites anymore. I use to fight them every cycle and squish em in my fingers just to get some anger out. They just suck all around.
All I use now is einstein's and cool cool temps. They cant breed if temp is low enough. Try to get in the 60's. 65 to 68 seems to be ideal. Good luck you can beat em

[jakgraphix3]

I have read to use pest strips. Do you mean the sticky strips or the box strips with the insert. Sorry for my ignorance but I'm at my witts end on athese mites. They are ruining some good stuff. thanks for any help. Jeff

[realradio]

ok I know this message is a little old, Ive read the WHOLE message (all 9 pages)(LOL)... are these strips still avail ?
Ive been fighting mites for 2 mos...
some of my stuff is flowering, and I need to get rid of the SM asap, 7 days away appx, Can I still use them ? Are strips or a pyrethrum bomb the best way to go ? Id sooooo much appreciate ANY input ANYONE can tell me at all !!! Thanks so much in advance :)

[LOC NAR on probation]

ok I know this message is a little old, Ive read the WHOLE message (all 9 pages)(LOL)... are these strips still avail ?
Ive been fighting mites for 2 mos...
some of my stuff is flowering, and I need to get rid of the SM asap, 7 days away appx, Can I still use them ? Are strips or a pyrethrum bomb the best way to go ? Id sooooo much appreciate ANY input ANYONE can tell me at all !!! Thanks so much in advance :)

Being so close I would use the doctor doom bomb. It will dissapate in several hours so no problems with residue on the buds.

[realradio]

LOC-NAR: Thanks for the reply, Ill look for them today... does anyone know if the strips still available for a preventative on vegging ? :) TIA

[Weezard]

LOC-NAR: Thanks for the reply, Ill look for them today... does anyone know if the strips still available for a preventative on vegging ? :) TIA

Yes. The "no pest strips" are still available in the states.
So, you should be able to mail order them.
Try Ace Hardware, or HD.
You are WIA.:D

Aloha,
Wee

[realradio]

ok I went and got some today at home depot ($6.70 each) and have put them in my rooms (lol)..... now we will wait and see.... Guy at the hydro place said they wont work, Im not believing him as MANY MANY People in this thread have said they worked like a CHARM, I tend to believe ppl here rather than the hydro place that just wants to sell more sprays......

[oorefluxoo]

I bought a big bottle of Floramite SC not relizing I need so little, 1oz makes 20 gallons of spray/dip.

I was hit hard with mites, tried lady bugs and premixed sprays without a dent.

I'd prefer non chemical, so I descided to used this, its out of the plants within 28 days.

Use it once them to knock the crap out of them and start over. Now I use, Neem oil and ladysbugs as preventive. I've been good now.

This stuff is the nuclear bomb for mites, and its easy on the plant!

I have 1oz bottles up for grabs 17$ , feel free to PM me
Local Garden shops sell 1oz bottles for 40$

[TANKJR]

Hot Shot No-Pest strip $7 @ Wallyworld I had them dang bugs bad and this strip killed them all overnight, I left it in the closet for two weeks just to be sure and they are gone...best $7 I ever spent...now I keep several spares in case they re-appear. Easiest method too.....1)unwrap 2)set in closet 3)DONE! It has no apparent effect on the finished product...stuff was great, tasty and potent.

[LetsSeeYa]

Hot Shot No-Pest strip $7 @ Wallyworld I had them dang bugs bad and this strip killed them all overnight, I left it in the closet for two weeks just to be sure and they are gone...best $7 I ever spent...now I keep several spares in case they re-appear. Easiest method too.....1)unwrap 2)set in closet 3)DONE! It has no apparent effect on the finished product...stuff was great, tasty and potent.

Ok so its great they are gone in the morning, but do they pack their bags and leave, or they roll over and DIE. I have a one year old plant thats covered and i need to save her, she's my favorite strain.

Anyone know? I want them dead and not to come back.

I have someone going to wally in 20min so if ya got any answer id luv to hear ya, thanks:thumbsup:



:rasta:

[GTMan2010]

I noticed last night a wiimpy wilted leaf and saw a few SM on the bottom. After investigating the rest of the plants Inoticed a few other leaves with a few eggs and a couple adult SM. I am not totally "infested"..yet So I am going to start a regimine to get rid and treat my space.

I Just bought some neem oil and aerosol pyrethrin spray Clean Air Purge III. TI otally dosed my plants in the grow space with the pyrethrin aerosol. I Am going to check in another 24 hours and then spray with Neem. Also, I am going to purchase some Hot Shot bug strips everyone is raving about. I will report as time goes on about my progress.

[canniwhatsis]

Shit! shit shit shit shit! :mad::angry3:

Broke one of my own cardinal rules, and moved a rooted clone cut from another garden straight into my own garden. The clone rooted fine and showed no signs of bugs, now several day's later,.... BOOOM!!!!!! one of the leaves on that clone is ragged! little bastards were everywhere on that little plant! :eek: :(

Little bastards must have been waiting for the humidity to drop before hatching. :cursing:



On the plus side of my battle, I spray neem every other week or so as a precaution, so the rest of my plants were already fairly well defended.

The whole room got sprayed tonight :chainsaw:, and the infected clones are now quarantined.

Neem application will be slightly more often to keep new growth covered, and in a short time the little turds should be gone! :toilet_claw:


Time to take a shower and change my clothes before examining my flower room.

[weeddaddy50]

You mean even you can get mites?????:rasta:

Once you get those buggers they are tough to get rid of....but you know that.

Good luck.:D

[canniwhatsis]

Actually this is the 3rd time I've had em in my house,... just the first time I've slipped up and introduced them into my room :o


First time was in early spring when they popped up on the basil and rose in the front window.

2nd time was a known infected G13 cutting I brought home from another garden, a month of quarantine squelched em, and none of the 5 clones from that set of cutting has shown a single sign of bugs in over 2 months.

3rd times the charm I guess. When I took the ChemDawg cuttings off the mother plant, there didn't appear to be any signs of bugs and the grower had said he hadn't seen any. Overall his grow looked pretty much clean, tho there were some gnats. I got lazy with those cuttings and treated them like they were from my own garden. Now I feel like a dumbass.


I did warn him that mites popped up on the cuttings I took from his plants and that he should watch his crop closely.


Ohhh well,.... back to fighting invisible foes! :stoned:


Already sprayed Neem,... will spray "Don't bug me" later this evening after my HID goes off.

[ThebaytoLA]

Just use Tobacco Juice. Kills like a machine.

[canniwhatsis]

Not gonna keep a nicotine poison around, either the cats or the kids could get into that shit and neither would be a good outcome.

On with the Neem application!:buzz_saw:


These little bastards are fookin doomed!!!!!!!! :gunfighter2:

[weeddaddy50]

lots of yellow spots....how long have you had the mites????

the best way I have found to get them under control is to drop the temps a night....and keep killing them....it does not take long and pretty soon you got them on the run.

[canniwhatsis]

bout 3 days,.... Dude, it's a clone,... the infected leaf is about the size of a half dollar. And is one of only a few leaves the plant has at all.


As for the rest of my vege room,... still no signs of spread, prior neem applications are doing they're job of keeping the little pricks down! :S1:

I've been doing plant by plant, leaf by leaf inspection looking for anything.

There were 4 on a plant that was in physical contact with the infected one, and that was it,... (found and squished them on the first night after noticing the problem) that plant is on high watch in case I missed an egg or something.


Shower and new clothes between working the infected girls, and working with the grow room just to help play it safe.



I'm gonna keep bumping this thread up as kinda a "Log" of how I deal with mites.;):hippy:

[MEDEDCANNABIS]

The good bugs from BHG you can buy to rid plants of spider mites ?? They "say" they seek out and destroy all the active mites, as well as the eggs.



b0nger

yes, but they are temperature sensitive. you need the right predators for the right temp and humidity. sometimes you need to overlap different predatory species to get the job done. the cost of which lies mostly in the shipping charges.

[LetsSeeYa]

yes, but they are temperature sensitive. you need the right predators for the right temp and humidity. sometimes you need to overlap different predatory species to get the job done. the cost of which lies mostly in the shipping charges.

Cost me more then a $100.00 to keep them at bay and still looking for them is the most important thing IMO. Alcohol and water to kill the cluster's and spray top soil, then remove from area and add more, and so on.

I used no pest strip for a month, but still added one more after the fist was up 2 weeks. They help, but i believe you still need other methods even with the strip's. Maybe people getting them under control with just the strip's have a mild infestation.


:rasta:

[MEDEDCANNABIS]

where do you place the strips? i wouldnt think that work very good, however ive never tried them before.

[canniwhatsis]

He's talking about the "No Pest" strips, they are a packet that has a wax thing in it kinda like a glade scented plug in,... but instead of off gassing pretty smells, that thing off gasses toxic poison. :eek:


My Grand daddy purp was sensitive to it, and wilted almost to the point of death overnight. I know several growers who have those things hanging everywhere, and they still have mites.

Suffice to say, I don't believe in those things working as well as some claim.


I'm gonna try and get another pic of my infected little girl tonight, she got a good dose of neem last night, and the 4 mites you can clearly see in the last picture had hardly moved, all were dead as doornails this morning! :blueknife:

Still no signs of spread in vege, re-dosed everybody in vege with neem last night as well, just to be safe.:hippy:

[MEDEDCANNABIS]

He's talking about the "No Pest" strips, they are a packet that has a wax thing in it kinda like a glade scented plug in,... but instead of off gassing pretty smells, that thing off gasses toxic poison. :eek:


My Grand daddy purp was sensitive to it, and wilted almost to the point of death overnight. I know several growers who have those things hanging everywhere, and they still have mites.

Suffice to say, I don't believe in those things working as well as some claim.


I'm gonna try and get another pic of my infected little girl tonight, she got a good dose of neem last night, and the 4 mites you can clearly see in the last picture had hardly moved, all were dead as doornails this morning! :blueknife:

Still no signs of spread in vege, re-dosed everybody in vege with neem last night as well, just to be safe.:hippy:

you see, this is what i had heard about strips before. i never tried because of that. one thing i did try and it works very well is when you chop them down hang them upside down(nothing new i know) and watch the exodus begin. they will literally crawl up and off the plant. should be a you tube video. although they cant be infested, like with webs and all, throw that crap away. neem seems to help keep them at bay. i think an army of predatory mites is the best. i guess it was good your girl wilted you wouldnt want to smoke tainted bud.

[LetsSeeYa]

you see, this is what i had heard about strips before. i never tried because of that. one thing i did try and it works very well is when you chop them down hang them upside down(nothing new i know) and watch the exodus begin. they will literally crawl up and off the plant. should be a you tube video. although they cant be infested, like with webs and all, throw that crap away. neem seems to help keep them at bay. i think an army of predatory mites is the best. i guess it was good your girl wilted you wouldnt want to smoke tainted bud.

I believe the ''No Pest Strips'' helped me, but it all depends on how much space you have it in. I put mine right above my plant for 2 weeks, then added another till the month was over, while in veg. I would never use it while budding. But i had gotten a spray , cant re call the name, but it was free, its posted last page or so, but this stuff really worked and organic. The strips helped, but my area was to big for the amount i used or the spray worked better, because now no mites are visible. Id go with the neem oil for preventive measures, but if ya got them the spray was free and after using it, not long after they were gone. I think it helped to remove the top soil where eggs are several times if you have them.

I read this thread and a guy hung a string from the ceiling to the top of his cola and also put one of those fly sticky paper things just above the string. I guess mites like to travel to the top, he said so all the mites would clime the string and get stuck to the fly paper. He said they even would crawl over their dead buddies to get atop, only to stick to the fly paper and die. I thought it was interesting, i think there is a pic too.

People who say the no pest strip worked over night either lied or had a 2'x2'x2' box. Just my experience with them, they suck thats for sure.



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[MEDEDCANNABIS]

I believe the ''No Pest Strips'' helped me, but it all depends on how much space you have it in. I put mine right above my plant for 2 weeks, then added another till the month was over, while in veg. I would never use it while budding. But i had gotten a spray , cant re call the name, but it was free, its posted last page or so, but this stuff really worked and organic. The strips helped, but my area was to big for the amount i used or the spray worked better, because now no mites are visible. Id go with the neem oil for preventive measures, but if ya got them the spray was free and after using it, not long after they were gone. I think it helped to remove the top soil where eggs are several times if you have them.

I read this thread and a guy hung a string from the ceiling to the top of his cola and also put one of those fly sticky paper things just above the string. I guess mites like to travel to the top, he said so all the mites would clime the string and get stuck to the fly paper. He said they even would crawl over their dead buddies to get atop, only to stick to the fly paper and die. I thought it was interesting, i think there is a pic too.

People who say the no pest strip worked over night either lied or had a 2'x2'x2' box. Just my experience with them, they suck thats for sure.



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i guess the real question is how do they die from it if there is no direct contact. vapors?

[canniwhatsis]

Yep, Vapors are the killer.

[canniwhatsis]

Couple updated pics.


Pic 1: The whole infected plant, only one leaf has sever damage, tho two others were growing in when the infestation was noticed, so the tips of those leaves got chewed up too.
Pic 2: The worst damaged leaf, now that it's covered in Neem it's got a nice shine to it, and any mite that tries to take a bite is doomed!!!
Pic 3: The underside of the worst leaf, this shot is backlit by my T-5 floro's that are over my cloner/ quarantine area..... all the little specks that can be seen are either bugs, eggs or small dirt particles. None of the bugs are alive, and all have been removed as best as possible. (Smushed! :D ) The big one was picked off with a piece of paper just to see if it was alive or not,... it didn't budge but got squished anyway! ;)

[MEDEDCANNABIS]

Couple updated pics.


Pic 1: The whole infected plant, only one leaf has sever damage, tho two others were growing in when the infestation was noticed, so the tips of those leaves got chewed up too.
Pic 2: The worst damaged leaf, now that it's covered in Neem it's got a nice shine to it, and any mite that tries to take a bite is doomed!!!
Pic 3: The underside of the worst leaf, this shot is backlit by my T-5 floro's that are over my cloner/ quarantine area..... all the little specks that can be seen are either bugs, eggs or small dirt particles. None of the bugs are alive, and all have been removed as best as possible. (Smushed! :D ) The big one was picked off with a piece of paper just to see if it was alive or not,... it didn't budge but got squished anyway! ;)

yeah but isnt neem just more of a control. smites are everywhere in the room, dirt, your clothes, wood, insulation etc. to me the seek and destroy method with pmites is best. or you got chem warefare but then you lose beneficials.

[LetsSeeYa]

I looked for this after my post, but couldn't find it so i looked it up and thought id post it. I think this stuff helped me the most and they were giving free samples of this and a fungus, both were 8oz bottles and i still have a bunch left. Its also organic, its patent is still pending so not much advertising is out there. I would try it if i were you and if they are sill giving free samples its not going to cost ya anything and its safe. Kills eggs too.




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[canniwhatsis]

yeah but isnt neem just more of a control. smites are everywhere in the room, dirt, your clothes, wood, insulation etc. to me the seek and destroy method with pmites is best. or you got chem warefare but then you lose beneficials.

Kind of yes. Neem kills mites, and also sticks around and will kill any that take a bite of a plant.

As a testament to the effectiveness of Neem as a prevention, the above plant got looking that bad while in the middle my vege, which has been dosed with neem, and I've found no signs of spread.


Yes I consider mites to be everywhere. If I've been outside working I consider myself covered in the bastards, so I shower and change clothes before going in the room.

I spray the plants in the room, so there's a thin coat of neem on pretty much everything, which is a little oily, but nothing can even crawl into my room without getting coated in neem :toilet_claw:

[canniwhatsis]

Shit,..... I'm not sure what's worse,....


Mites....



Or CATS!!!!!!!!!!!!!! :mad:



The mites seem to be all dead and gone, but the neem isn't keeping my furry shithead from chewing on the plant!

[tikiroom]

:S2: Yeah my cat now likes "helping" me out with my grow too.

[weeddaddy50]

with those dam things.....I harvested all my plants that were ready....now my grow new grow is 5 weeks away....some of the plants had a very small mite population....I just began controling it since they were so close to harvesting with very cool temptures at night...45 to 55 degrees and when I saw them I used a shop vac to get them....now that all the buds are out of the room....I have introduced the natural bugs and still use the neem....the neem will not kill the natural bugs...because they don't eat plants only other bugs.....You just have to be proactive prior to the last 4 weeks of flower...that is the toughest part.

I believe I have them nearly gone...and I got mine from clones from something else.....I do not use clones from anyone....I produce my own...and all the strains I want to grow I grow from seed now....just not worth the risk.

[canniwhatsis]

Yep!

Inspite of introducing the infected clone into my room, there was no spread thanks to my preventive spraying of neem.

Other precautions like changing clothes and bathing before entering your grow will help prevent outbreaks as well. One should NEVER walk straight into there indoor grow after working in the outdoor vegetable garden! :eek:

I've got a nice collection of strains going now, so I don't "Need" any new strains. Proper quarantine would have prevented any stress with bringing in the new clone.

As long as the cat doesn't kill it, I'll go ahead and put the new Chem Dawg clone back in my vege area next week.

Once I've got some good nodes, I'm gonna start working on my grafting experiment again! ;)

[twopandan]

yup they work and work well,,,,,,,,,,, 4
aphids go with the lady bugs but for spider mites ya need to go with lacewigs coz they eat the eggs the adults and any left over honey (aphid shyt) that may stil be on the leaves

[terogew]

Those pest strips are the best I found them about a year ago when someone mentioned it on overgrow and will never go back. I recommind them to anyone that has to battle these little bastards...

PEST STRIP...........WHERE DO YOU PUT THEM TO GET A GOOD EFFECT?

[pdxmike]

Opie you are a GENIUS!!!!! I had the little bastards and did the no-pest strips, and they are ALL GONE!! It works. Just have to make sure you cut down on ventilation during the 3 days. THANK YOU THANK YOU THANK YOU!!!!!!

[widehead]

hi is there a certain brand of pest strip you use?

[nova1992]

hey midol isnt just for woman.. its like ibuprofen, an anti inflammatory, it doesnt have female hormones or anything in it

[scatbrewer]

So it seems that alot of folks who are typically using chemie-grow products are the principle targets of the mites... I know several people who have worked really hard to start with the soil/media system as being the first line of defense. High brix-levels are the way to go to just flat out starve the little bastards out. We can continue to bomb them, and really just make the survivors stronger. They almost always come roaring back.
I don't know about all worm casting teas being created equal, but my friend found this worm tea at the growfax in denver (7540 colfax) by accident, and believes that it is THE go-to solution, as he uses chem-feed products, has a high traffic room, with dogs and cats included. He just does a soil drench at a 15 to 1 rate every three weeks, and they just stay away. Just too bad all these shops are selling meds tainted with pesticides...when all you need to do is make the plants balanced and healthy.
All I can say is I am done fighting them, and very happy aboout it... Blessings to all.