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JakeTheCorgi
05-03-2006, 01:45 PM
I've got WW and NL fem seeds coming and I'm going to start five in a 5x2 room and want to know what sort of yield to expect. Just post your total lumens, how many plants, and yield. Any sort of info on the strains I picked would be helpful too, I'm a first timer but i've spent a month reading the various grow guides on the webnets. I realize that fluoro isnt ideal but given my budget/heat/electricity restricitions its my best bet thanks.

LIP
05-03-2006, 03:07 PM
There is NO possible way to tell yeild. Theres too many factors. No one can do it sucessfuly.

britewire
05-03-2006, 03:23 PM
I got 2x 95.000 lumens in the room and the top harvest was 1gr/W

JakeTheCorgi
05-03-2006, 03:27 PM
There is NO possible way to tell yeild. Theres too many factors. No one can do it sucessfuly.

I wasnt asking for a prediction on my yield....I want to know YOUR yield. and is that gram per watt?

britewire
05-03-2006, 03:33 PM
It's 2x 600W= 1200W

1 600W son-te+ light is 95.000 lumens

So, 190.000 lumens devided by 1200W = 158.33 lumens per Wat x 1 gram/Watt = 1gram per 158.33 lumens


:D

dialtone420
05-03-2006, 04:26 PM
Why does Lip feel he has to post on every damn thread. Its starting to piss me off.

YASoob
05-03-2006, 05:06 PM
he's helping ppl out. show some love.

The Grim Reefer
05-03-2006, 06:16 PM
Why does Lip feel he has to post on every damn thread. Its starting to piss me off.

:stoned:

I'm glad he does, it's hard to get replies sometimes when traffic is low.
He gives out good, reliable information and in this case, was 100% correct.

He's done nothing but tried to help this forum and it's growers.

Show some love.

Yield is based on very many factors. Light, temperature, strain, nutrients, watering, stress factors in it's life, ventilation, ect.

I'm still a nub grower, but I don't think even the pros can predict yield down to the half gram.

<3

the image reaper
05-03-2006, 06:59 PM
LIP will give you some of the most helpful info to be found in here ... he's a nice guy, and a positive influence in here ... maybe you have an attitude problem ... also, responders note: the guy asked about "flouros", not your 600 watt sodiums .... read, people, read before you post ... like a bunch of kids in here sometimes ... :smokin:

LIP
05-03-2006, 07:13 PM
Why does Lip feel he has to post on every damn thread. Its starting to piss me off.

Then you are a cock... I havnt even seen you before...


I wasnt asking for a prediction on my yield....I want to know YOUR yield. and is that gram per watt?


Then i am sorry and i obviously read it wrong. I do applogise.







LIP will give you some of the most helpful info to be found in here ... he's a nice guy, and a positive influence in here ... maybe you have an attitude problem ... also, responders note: the guy asked about "flouros", not your 600 watt sodiums .... read, people, read before you post ... like a bunch of kids in here sometimes ... :smokin:


Thankyou, and to the other people for sticking up for me...

Stickyplant
05-03-2006, 08:01 PM
I love LIP... he is like that uncle you can always rely on to give you a kind word... even if he is bailing you out of jail!

Kind words are hard to find out here on the net... I say be thanful there are people out here that look at every thread... I know I dont.

LIP
05-03-2006, 08:04 PM
Thanks man, i love you 2 in stoned way ;)

JakeTheCorgi
05-03-2006, 08:14 PM
Awesome!...My first thread and I got some pacifist stoners to squabble on the e-nets......C'mon guys.....I've just been researching a while and I've seen the projections of "1oz/sqft" but i've heard way more and I've heard way less and I'm leaning on different approaches to lighting depending on the different info i'm getting, and its changing everyday.

I havent bought the lights but I've scoped out different 4ft floro setups at Lowe's and the most wattage i've seen in a plug in version is 32. I found some 60watt 4ft bulbs but no fixture to match. I'm calling around to see if anyplaces carry those 125watt loopy ones but so far no go. I really would like a little direction on this, most of specs and info i've read seem to assume that everyone is using HPS's or the like.

side note: I'm currently experiementing with a way to hit this bong with my nose.....updates coming

the image reaper
05-03-2006, 08:29 PM
:D ... no "pacifist stoner" here ... :) .. I'm ex-boxer, retired redneck trucker ... 6'2", 215" , ... but the girls say Im just a big teddy bear ... :p :smokin:

the image reaper
05-03-2006, 08:31 PM
I use 4-foot flourescents, exclusively ... just go to WALMART, buy the "Cool White" GE's, 40-watters, 'blue' spectrum ... also, get the GE Kitchen/Bath 40-watters for blooming, they're your 'red' spectrum ... :thumbsup:

dialtone420
05-05-2006, 04:30 AM
Fine i just dont like his picture then, and im 6'4 230lbs so what im sorry i pissed you guys off ok please forgive me. The reason i even looked at this thread is because ive grown and smoked using 48" floros. im on my 7th grow and just wanted to give some info. Also hps floro combo.

GrowinGreen23
05-05-2006, 06:25 AM
Britewire so are you sayign that for every 158.33 lumens your light has you should yield close to 1gram, so for example with 1x42w =150w/2600 lumen CFL you should result close to 16.42 grams. or am i just too stoned?:smokin: :p

smokesalot
05-05-2006, 07:26 AM
look up an envirolite or fluorex cfl's they use less space than the four footers good luck

LOC NAR1958
05-05-2006, 08:04 AM
I have grown with both and I will tell you there is a great difference. My yeild with fluro's almost nothing. HPS 400 watt 4 OZ's from 6 plants and HPS 100watt cheap light 6 OZ's. I'm trying a hortilux 1000 eye HPS now and the yeild will be much greater. The big Z says. If you go cheap you grow cheap. Sorry if that's all you can use.

britewire
05-05-2006, 11:08 AM
Britewire so are you sayign that for every 158.33 lumens your light has you should yield close to 1gram, so for example with 1x42w =150w/2600 lumen CFL you should result close to 16.42 grams. or am i just too stoned?:smokin: :p

No,

I'm saying that I harvest 1 gram per 158.33 lumens when I do a scrogg setup. The light spectrum of a CFL is totally differant from HPS.

GrowinGreen23
05-05-2006, 05:52 PM
o ok my bad.........

latewood
05-05-2006, 06:01 PM
Awesome!...My first thread and I got some pacifist stoners to squabble on the e-nets......C'mon guys.....I've just been researching a while and I've seen the projections of "1oz/sqft" but i've heard way more and I've heard way less and I'm leaning on different approaches to lighting depending on the different info i'm getting, and its changing everyday.

I havent bought the lights but I've scoped out different 4ft floro setups at Lowe's and the most wattage i've seen in a plug in version is 32. I found some 60watt 4ft bulbs but no fixture to match. I'm calling around to see if anyplaces carry those 125watt loopy ones but so far no go. I really would like a little direction on this, most of specs and info i've read seem to assume that everyone is using HPS's or the like.

side note: I'm currently experiementing with a way to hit this bong with my nose.....updates comingi'll answer you! You need at least a 600-1000 watt lamp to grow 1 oz per sf; Among other things(check out britewire's new thread/how-to grow successfully)...that is approximately what my room potential is; Using a 1000w hortilux...just added 1000w mh agrosungold to room:D :D :D we'll see how it goes...I am anxious as to how much AC I will have run to cool it!...hope this helps lw

I guess it is time to get out the big squirrel caged I've had stashed back; for that day when it got 'TOO HOT!'...

britewire
05-05-2006, 06:09 PM
For CFL is;

2700K = 0.38gr/Watt (proven estimate from www.smartlight.nl)

2100K = 0.50gr/Watt (proven estimate from www.smartlight.nl)

2100/2700K (mixed) = 0.46gr/Watt (proven estimate from www.smartlight.nl)

HPS lights = 0.60gr/Watt (proven estimate from www.smartlight.nl)

Induction lights = 0.8gr/Watt (proven estimate from www.smartlight.nl)


(all tests shown on that site were under the same conditions at the same time, with clones from the same mother)



Induction lights are really fucking expencive so I'll use HPS

(picture = 200W induction light)

latewood
05-05-2006, 06:24 PM
look up an envirolite or fluorex cfl's they use less space than the four footers good luckthey still won't yield as much as an HID...and, when you start using those 'BIGASS' fluoros...HEAT becomes a factor, and has to be dealt with. lw:smokin:

JakeTheCorgi
05-05-2006, 07:10 PM
Nobody has any freak cfl yield stories to bolster my confidence?!


Thanks for the replies, I think my setup is going to be a little more effective in that i've completely encased my grow space in floro. something like 1900watts and i'm picking up through reading (mostly brightwire's stuff) that much attention has to be paid to the medium and nutes etc. I'm cooking up a ghetto co2 source (yeast/milkjug) and a fan probably wont hurt. Other than that look out for my grow thread and thanks a lot for the info.

4x5
05-06-2006, 02:08 PM
First time had 6 2foot fl tubes and 6 26w cfls in a 3wX1dX4h box, three 2ft females yielded less than a half oz total. HID lighting is the way to go, use the cfls in your lamps and house fixtures to offset the cost of running HID in the "area".

latewood
05-06-2006, 02:35 PM
you need to concentrate on the basics of growing weed and not on ghetto co2 jugs...It has to be above 85(88 ideal) degrees for co2 to be effective.
the biggest factor here, has not even been mentioned.

What type of system/grow are you doing? It was nice of britewire to look things up for you, but with your inexperience, you are asking the wrong question's.

If you know you are growing with cfl's...just say so...then folks around here can help you. But, I think you are putting the cart before the horse.

Make a solid plan before you germ those good genetics and waste them.

you DO NOT need co2 until you have harvested a decent yielding plant and have developed a clue as to what you are doing. Hope you take this to heart, lw

BigBudDaddy08
05-06-2006, 03:14 PM
I had 2 4ft shop lights and 1 42 true watt cfl and manage to get 2 1/2 ounces off 1 plant

the image reaper
05-06-2006, 06:00 PM
keep in mind, bud-weight can vary widely, due to differences in drying, and some people aren't as thorough with their 'manicuring' of a finished bud ... I've met growers claiming over two ounces a plant .. it was easy, they just weighed everything but the roots :D ... oh, well ... :smokin:

knna
05-06-2006, 06:42 PM
Yield depends of strain and stile of growing. The gr/watt ratio depends of lamps efficiency (150HPSs or Enviros are in a different leage than 600 or 1000w HPS).

I use a good producer (NL) in SOG, without any veg, with CFLs (DuluxL 55w) and obtain about 0,35-0,4 gr/w (real watts, total consumed watts) in 2 months (about 0,2gr/w per month).

ToKnoIsToGro
05-06-2006, 07:08 PM
image reaper, what are some of your yields? including total wattage fluor for veg/flwr, time in each stage?

africansunset
01-05-2007, 11:39 PM
fluoreX light rock with vegging - suck with budding : )

justaseed
01-07-2007, 11:43 PM
i had a scrog cab with 4 42 watt cfls 1 65 watt cfl aquarium strip and a 125watt vitalume cfl, yeilds were 4-4.5 oz or .33-.36 gm/watt but with hps i have no trouble getting 1gm/watt with my 400 and my 150. you can get a 150hps for pretty cheap(under 50 bucks) and i got over an ounce more with 150 watts of hps than i did with 350watts of cfls.

PaBudsX420X
01-08-2007, 02:12 AM
its not really a freak story of yeild but i switched from tubes to cfl''s and i am a new grower by the way. the growth boost from the light intensity change was extremly noticeable within 24 hours. Plus you get more lumens and more intensity which you need. i am goin to switch to a 400w hps system for flowering though so you might want to think of that combo to if you can afford it my hps system was only 140 bucks so its not a bad investment from everthing ive heard. hope i could help a bit

Bodom Children Of
01-08-2007, 08:47 AM
Check my grows. I think i have good luck for not knowing much. CFL grown bud is out there.