on the sixth day...

[Gumby]

6 days of jury diliberation and nothing.... I'm still leaning towards Moussaoui's verdict that Bush will pardon him... :) ...

hard to convict someone of a crime they didn't do, much less one that's made up in the first place...


(AP) Deliberations went into the sixth day Tuesday in the Zacarias Moussaoui sentencing trial, with lawyers and jury consultants saying they believe the chance that of a death sentence diminishes with each passing day.

The jury concluded a fifth day of deliberations Monday without deciding whether to execute Moussaoui â?? the only person in this country charged in the Sept. 11, 2001, attacks â?? or sentence him to life in prison.

So far, in more than 28 hours of deliberations spread over five days, the jurors have given few clues into their decision-making process. They have asked only one question â?? a request for a dictionary that was denied by the judge.

One possible indication that jurors are settling in for a long haul came after deliberations concluded Monday: Jurors set a work schedule for themselves for the next week, through May 8. They typically had been setting the schedule only a day in advance.

http://www.cbsnews.com/stories/2006/05/02/terror/main1569625.shtml

[Bong30]

my bet is that there is one hold out... that thinks death is too good.... no marter here.......


i say kill him...

[Gumby]

for what? what crime did he commit?? defend what you say in the politcal forum... we don't care what you think if there is no reason for thinking it...

[Bong30]

Was he found guilty by a jury of his peers....?

yes or no, on next post, no babble bullshit.

The system seams to work for the rest of us....gumby is better than the rest of us.... just ask him.

[Psycho4Bud]

for what? what crime did he commit?? defend what you say in the politcal forum... we don't care what you think if there is no reason for thinking it...

I know he seems to be the type of guy you'd want to introduce to a sister or a daughter but he does have his pit falls......I think this pretty much covers his charges........
http://files.findlaw.com/news.findlaw.com/hdocs/docs/terrorism/moussaoui1201.pdf


Have a good one!:thumbsup:

[xblackdogx]

^^
hey psycho-
mr. Atta as mentioned in your above link
was also a customer of Jack Abramoff's-indicted on bank fraud, among other things- casino cruise
and we all know how close Mr. abramoff is to Mr. Bush

[eg420ne]

ALEXANDRIA, Va. - A defense psychologist testified Monday that Zacarias Moussaoui is a paranoid schizophrenic with delusions, as defense lawyers presented additional evidence the confessed Sept. 11 conspirator believes he will be freed from prison by President Bush.

Psychologist Xavier Amador testified Moussaoui displays symptoms of the brain disorder, including delusions and disorganized thoughts and speech.

Moussaouiâ??s court-appointed defense lawyers believe he has lied on the witness stand twice about having a role in the nationâ??s worst terrorist attack in order to achieve martyrdom through execution or an enhanced role in history.

Defendantâ??s after-trial plans
He added that he has dreamed Bush will release him before leaving office in 2009 as part of a prisoner exchange for U.S. troops captured abroad, and said he is convinced that will occur. <<<<sounds delusionsional to me
http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/12348153/

Dr. Xavier Amador is an adjunct professor in Clinical Psychology at Teacherâ??s College, Columbia University in New York City and is on the Board of Directors of the National Alliance for the Mentally Ill (NAMI). He is a clinical psychologist who treats adults, children, and adolescents in individual, couples and family therapy.
http://www.xavieramador.com/
Previously, he was a professor in the Department of Psychiatry at Columbia University, College of Physicians & Surgeons; Director of Research at NAMI; and the Director of Psychology at the New York State Psychiatric Institute

[Gumby]

this is what my peers say happened, you're the one still listening to the decider...

http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=-3498980438587461603&q=9%2F11

and Bong I am a person who believes in a trial, both people presenting their side of the story and having people making their own mind up about it... (I linked you to my side) ...something you fail to participate in... but thanks for all that info... it taught me a lot and now I see why you believe it... by the way, how's that million... and once again shut the fuck up with me if you're going to talk about this...

http://www.reopen911.org/Contest.htm Bong let me know when you get the money ok?? you fucking douche

[Psycho4Bud]

Of course he had a brain disorder....he joined into an Al-Quada camp and was taking flying lessons in Minnisota for an admitted reason.........what should we do, say oh poor thing??:cool:

[Gumby]

I know he seems to be the type of guy you'd want to introduce to a sister or a daughter but he does have his pit falls......I think this pretty much covers his charges........
http://files.findlaw.com/news.findlaw.com/hdocs/docs/terrorism/moussaoui1201.pdf


Have a good one!:thumbsup:

I didn't say I loved the guy... all I was asking Bong to do is stop posting behind me with ignorant crap... it's stupid and annoying... I want to learn something here not put up with a two year old fucking up the flow...

thanks for the link, that's all I want Bong to do... I don't care what you think, you should know that from the debate you and I had about the marches... we can talk about it and it evolved into a good discussions about the matter and I think it sounded like me and you agreed in the end to some extent... that's what I'm expecting here... people to talk about politics and help each other learn ... that's what I expect in a political forum, if I'm wrong... sorry... but all I'm asking is to say why you believe what you are posting... 90% of the time people do it... look you did it, dog made a reference to yours, and he has posted about what he is talking about under a new thread, and eg did it... Bong is the only one and he is doing it in every thread... all I am asking is him to say something worth a shit... that's it...

[Gumby]

Of course he had a brain disorder....he joined into an Al-Quada camp and was taking flying lessons in Minnisota for an admitted reason.........what should we do, say oh poor thing??:cool:

Instead of convicting him of a crime for being, insane/in al-quada/talking to harry reid/sucking off laden anything... we should talk about what crimes he is convicted of, and why... that's what debate is about, it's about the facts... not the fact he's bald and yells a lot...

[Psycho4Bud]

I didn't say I loved the guy... all I was asking Bong to do is stop posting behind me with ignorant crap... it's stupid and annoying... I want to learn something here not put up with a two year old fucking up the flow...

thanks for the link, that's all I want Bong to do... I don't care what you think, you should know that from the debate you and I had about the marches... we can talk about it and it evolved into a good discussions about the matter and I think it sounded like me and you agreed in the end to some extent... that's what I'm expecting here... people to talk about politics and help each other learn ... that's what I expect in a political forum, if I'm wrong... sorry... but all I'm asking is to say why you believe what you are posting... 90% of the time people do it... look you did it, dog made a reference to yours, and he has posted about what he is talking about under a new thread, and eg did it... Bong is the only one and he is doing it in every thread... all I am asking is him to say something worth a shit... that's it...

Politics has a tendency to turn into flame wars....that's why the mod team leaves this area alone.....even the worse of debates has some good ....maybe.......:D

[Psycho4Bud]

Instead of convicting him of a crime for being, insane/in al-quada/talking to harry reid/sucking off laden anything... we should talk about what crimes he is convicted of, and why... that's what debate is about, it's about the facts... not the fact he's bald and yells a lot...

We don't have to ....there is a jury of 12. They heard ALL the evidence...unlike us out here, we'll see what happens.

Poor psychopath....or screw the terrorist? Hey, that would be a poll!:D

Have a good one!:thumbsup:

[eg420ne]

Of course he had a brain disorder....he joined into an Al-Quada camp and was taking flying lessons in Minnisota for an admitted reason.........what should we do, say oh poor thing??:cool:
I wish we could give bush a test---it does mean we cant trust a dude who already lied to the jury----AlCIAduh said they didnt want him either--he's more insane then bush--- re-He added that he has dreamed Bush will release him before leaving office in 2009 as part of a prisoner exchange for U.S. troops captured abroad, and said he is convinced that will occur. <<<<sounds delusionsional to me
just incase you didnt read this part---Moussaouiâ??s court-appointed defense lawyers believe he has lied on the witness stand twice about having a role in the nationâ??s worst terrorist attack in order to achieve martyrdom through execution or an enhanced role in history.

I dont give a fuk about him im just letting y'all know what has been said about this dude, and his words cant be trusted

[xblackdogx]

gumby,
you won't get a real arguement from psycho on this topic
try explaining to the pentagon to him- or have him prove his side-
it's impossible
and i agree w/ you about backing the statements up,
instead of arguing about petty irrelevant stuff

[Psycho4Bud]

I wish we could give bush a test---it does mean we cant trust a dude who already lied to the jury----AlCIAduh said they didnt want him either--he's more insane then bush--- re-He added that he has dreamed Bush will release him before leaving office in 2009 as part of a prisoner exchange for U.S. troops captured abroad, and said he is convinced that will occur. <<<<sounds delusionsional to me
just incase you didnt read this part---Moussaouiâ??s court-appointed defense lawyers believe he has lied on the witness stand twice about having a role in the nationâ??s worst terrorist attack in order to achieve martyrdom through execution or an enhanced role in history.

I dont give a fuk about him im just letting y'all know what has been said about this dude, and his words cant be trusted

Because of that, he'll probably end up getting a life sentence. But I don't think ol' boys going to walk.

Still on vacation? Still got a fat one rolled for ya!:D

[eg420ne]

Because of that, he'll probably end up getting a life sentence. But I don't think ol' boys going to walk.

Still on vacation? Still got a fat one rolled for ya!:D
I know he wont walk----------I have to get back home b4 gas goes up another 10cents thanks anyways, my brother-in-law share sum good bud with me not sure what kind but it gave me chills i was like damn this sum good stuff, i be back this way summer time doh...plus im not in my own auto

[Psycho4Bud]

I know he wont walk----------I have to get back home b4 gas goes up another 10cents thanks anyways, my brother-in-law share sum good bud with me not sure what kind but it gave me chills i was like damn this sum good stuff, i be back this way summer time doh...plus im not in my own auto

To bad.....had a fat Power Plant all rolled and ready! Well, I guess I know what I'll be doin' later.:D

Have a good trip dude!:thumbsup:

[eg420ne]

To bad.....had a fat Power Plant all rolled and ready! Well, I guess I know what I'll be doin' later.:D

Have a good trip dude!:thumbsup:Hell yeah:thumbsup: im getting an half later tonite and its the good shit not that mexican dirt weed i get back home

[Gumby]

We don't have to ....there is a jury of 12. They heard ALL the evidence...unlike us out here, we'll see what happens.

Poor psychopath....or screw the terrorist? Hey, that would be a poll!:D

Have a good one!:thumbsup:

"How will we defeat Communism unless we know what it is? ... We have got to fight it with something better. Not try to conceal the thinking of our own people. They are a part of America and even if they think ideas that are contrary to ours they have a right to have them, a right to record them and a right to have them in places where they are accessible to others. It is unquestioned or it is not America."

- President Dwight Eisenhower, 1953


"To know what you prefer instead of humbly saying Amen to what the world tells you you ought to prefer, is to have kept your soul alive. "

- Robert Louis Stevenson (1850 - 1895)

" The hottest places in Hell are reserved for those who in time of great moral crises maintain their neutrality." -- Dante Alighieri (1265-1321)

and I'm not even christian.. well kinda, do puritains still exsist??

"Listen to me and understand this: A man is not defiled by what goes into his mouth, but by what comes out of it." -- Matthew 15:11

[eg420ne]

Good find on them quotes gumby- i like this one--- The hottest places in Hell are reserved for those who in time of great moral crises maintain their neutrality." -- Dante Alighieri (1265-1321)

[Bong30]

and Bong I am a person who believes in a trial


didnt sound like a yes or no answer to me.

you are to dumb...so ill answer it for you.

Yes Bong he was found guilty, by a jury of his peers.

I dont even care if you think he was inocent.... he was found guilty.. and the system isnt perfect but it is the best one on the planet. If he is, He wont be the first inocent guy to go to prision. We havnt herd all the evidence gumby.... your 9-11 movie dont mean shit.

So fry his ass......

Ill post what ever i want under the rules of the board, just cause i get under your skin, makes me want to do it more. I am deprograming you like a moonie.....

[xblackdogx]

Judge Doesn't Believe Moussaoui 9/11 Claims

http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/11669251/

[Gumby]

sorry if I never felt ok with killing someone bong, and sorry if I thouht it was wrong to kill a guy for a crime he didn't commit... and sorry for wanting the information to be avalible to the public... I guess I am unamerican after all...

you did it... i'm changed... fuck right and wrong... if Bush says so, it's right... fuck it.. kill everyone... lets get nukes... you liked that right Bong, mutal assured distruction, right.... your great idea for america... I'm on board now... let's ust kill everyone and not tell anyone...

all I want to know is what he's convicted on and why... it's only the biggest 'attack' in the US... why is it so secretive? why is there a link between him and Bush? what did he do as a part of 9/11 that's all I want to know...

what role did he play, not that he's convicted of it... what did he do to get convicted... kill the fucker I don't care, he's not the best guy in the world... but atleast tell me what he did .... it's only part of the worst thing ever in American and we know nothing of what he did...

I just want to know what he did and why they convicted him... that's all...
cause I think Bush caused 9/11 and if they can prove, through our courts.. how they are suppose to be ran... than the truth should come out... but when information is withheld and people are left out, the truth is as well... and that's not right when we're talking about 3,000 people dying...

we can put OJ on tv everyday for a year, but we can't even take a picture of this guy?? ya that makes sense... we can find out anything you ever wanted to know abuot a stripper from Duke, but they don't even know if he was suppose to be with Reid or not?? we can hear who Natalle Hollaway was screwing the night she died, but nothing about the plans Moussoui made and actions he took...

fair trial... open to the public... freedom of information... that's all I want...

[Bong30]

RING RING....

this is what Mutaul assured destruction is......

gumby you think you are smart but the reason you think im dumb is cause im so far above your head....

the reason for mutual assured destction....listen fuck head

so know one dies..... no shots fired NO SHOTS FIRED...

we won the cold war with this GUMBY you dumb mother fucker

Mutual assured destruction (MAD) is the doctrine of military strategy in which a full scale use of nuclear weapons by one of two opposing sides would result in the destruction of both the attacker and the defender. It is based on the theory of deterrence according to which the deployment of strong weapons is essential to threaten the enemy in order to prevent the use of the very same weapons. It is also cited by gun control opponents as the reason why crime rates sometimes tend to be lower in heavily armed populations.[citation needed] The strategy is effectively a form of Nash Equilibrium, in which both sides are attempting to avoid their worst possible outcome--Nuclear Annihilation.

[edit]
Theory
The doctrine assumes that each side has enough weaponry to destroy the other side and that either side, if attacked for any reason by the other, would retaliate with equal or greater force. The expected result is an immediate escalation resulting in both combatants' total and assured destruction. It is now generally assumed that the nuclear fallout or nuclear winter would bring about worldwide devastation, though this was not a critical assumption to the theory of MAD.

The doctrine further assumes that neither side will dare to launch a first strike because the other side will launch on warning (also called fail-deadly) or with secondary forces (second strike) resulting in the destruction of both parties. The payoff of this doctrine is expected to be a tense but stable peace.

The primary application of this doctrine occurred during the Cold War (1950s to 1990s) in which MAD was seen as helping to prevent any direct full-scale conflicts between the two power blocs while they engaged in smaller proxy wars around the world. It was also responsible for the arms race, as both nations struggled to keep nuclear parity, or at least retain second-strike capability.

Proponents of MAD as part of U.S. and USSR strategic doctrine believed that nuclear war could best be prevented if neither side could expect to survive (as a functioning state) a full scale nuclear exchange. The credibility of the threat being critical to such assurance, each side had to invest substantial capital even if they were not intended for use. In addition, neither side could be expected or allowed to adequately defend itself against the other's nuclear missiles. This led both to the hardening and diversification of nuclear delivery systems (such as nuclear missile bunkers, ballistic missile submarines and nuclear bombers kept at fail-safe points) and to the Anti-Ballistic Missile Treaty.

This MAD scenario was often known by the euphemism "nuclear deterrence" (The term 'deterrence' was first used in this context after World War II. Prior to that time, its use was limited to juridical terminology).



tell me about the 5 year plan...commie

This is why communism doesnt work fucking moron GO BACK TO SCHOOL DUMB ASS.
Five-Year Plans for the National Economy of the USSR or Piatiletkas (пятилетка) were a series of nation-wide centralized exercises in rapid economic development in the Soviet Union. The plans were developed by the Gosplan based on the Theory of Productive Forces that was part of the general guidelines of the Communist Party for economic development. Fulfilling the plan became the watchword of Soviet bureaucracy. (See Overview of the Soviet economic planning process)

The same method of planning was also adopted by most other communist states, including India's pro-Soviet government and the People's Republic of China in the 1950-60s. In addition, several capitalist states have emulated the concept of central planning, though in the context of a market economy, by setting integrated economic goals for a finite period of time. Thus we may find "Seven-year Plans" and "Twelve-Year Plans".

Several five-year plans did not take up the full period of time assigned to them (some were successfully completed earlier than expected, while others failed and were abandoned). The initial five-year plans were created to serve in the rapid industrialization of the Soviet Union, and thus placed a major focus on heavy industry. Altogether, there were 13 five-year plans. The first one was accepted in 1928, for the five year period from 1929 to 1933, and completed one year early. The last, thirteenth Five-Year Plan was for the period from 1991 to 1995 and was not completed, as the Soviet Union was dissolved in 1991.

[xblackdogx]

but when information is withheld and people are left out, the truth is as well... and that's not right when we're talking about 3,000 people dying...


even worse: since 9/11 is the catalyst for the War on Terror, there's over 130,000 total people that have died [afghanistan bombing, iraq and the majority civilians]

[Gumby]

RING RING....

this is what Mutaul assured destruction is......

gumby you think you are smart but the reason you think im dumb is cause im so far above your head....

the reason for mutual assured destction....listen fuck head

so know one dies..... no shots fired NO SHOTS FIRED...

we won the cold war with this GUMBY you dumb mother fucker

Mutual assured destruction (MAD) is the doctrine of military strategy in which a full scale use of nuclear weapons by one of two opposing sides would result in the destruction of both the attacker and the defender. It is based on the theory of deterrence according to which the deployment of strong weapons is essential to threaten the enemy in order to prevent the use of the very same weapons. It is also cited by gun control opponents as the reason why crime rates sometimes tend to be lower in heavily armed populations.[citation needed] The strategy is effectively a form of Nash Equilibrium, in which both sides are attempting to avoid their worst possible outcome--Nuclear Annihilation.

[edit]
Theory
The doctrine assumes that each side has enough weaponry to destroy the other side and that either side, if attacked for any reason by the other, would retaliate with equal or greater force. The expected result is an immediate escalation resulting in both combatants' total and assured destruction. It is now generally assumed that the nuclear fallout or nuclear winter would bring about worldwide devastation, though this was not a critical assumption to the theory of MAD.

The doctrine further assumes that neither side will dare to launch a first strike because the other side will launch on warning (also called fail-deadly) or with secondary forces (second strike) resulting in the destruction of both parties. The payoff of this doctrine is expected to be a tense but stable peace.

The primary application of this doctrine occurred during the Cold War (1950s to 1990s) in which MAD was seen as helping to prevent any direct full-scale conflicts between the two power blocs while they engaged in smaller proxy wars around the world. It was also responsible for the arms race, as both nations struggled to keep nuclear parity, or at least retain second-strike capability.

Proponents of MAD as part of U.S. and USSR strategic doctrine believed that nuclear war could best be prevented if neither side could expect to survive (as a functioning state) a full scale nuclear exchange. The credibility of the threat being critical to such assurance, each side had to invest substantial capital even if they were not intended for use. In addition, neither side could be expected or allowed to adequately defend itself against the other's nuclear missiles. This led both to the hardening and diversification of nuclear delivery systems (such as nuclear missile bunkers, ballistic missile submarines and nuclear bombers kept at fail-safe points) and to the Anti-Ballistic Missile Treaty.

This MAD scenario was often known by the euphemism "nuclear deterrence" (The term 'deterrence' was first used in this context after World War II. Prior to that time, its use was limited to juridical terminology).



tell me about the 5 year plan...commie

This is why communism doesnt work fucking moron GO BACK TO SCHOOL DUMB ASS.
Five-Year Plans for the National Economy of the USSR or Piatiletkas (пятилетка) were a series of nation-wide centralized exercises in rapid economic development in the Soviet Union. The plans were developed by the Gosplan based on the Theory of Productive Forces that was part of the general guidelines of the Communist Party for economic development. Fulfilling the plan became the watchword of Soviet bureaucracy. (See Overview of the Soviet economic planning process)

The same method of planning was also adopted by most other communist states, including India's pro-Soviet government and the People's Republic of China in the 1950-60s. In addition, several capitalist states have emulated the concept of central planning, though in the context of a market economy, by setting integrated economic goals for a finite period of time. Thus we may find "Seven-year Plans" and "Twelve-Year Plans".

Several five-year plans did not take up the full period of time assigned to them (some were successfully completed earlier than expected, while others failed and were abandoned). The initial five-year plans were created to serve in the rapid industrialization of the Soviet Union, and thus placed a major focus on heavy industry. Altogether, there were 13 five-year plans. The first one was accepted in 1928, for the five year period from 1929 to 1933, and completed one year early. The last, thirteenth Five-Year Plan was for the period from 1991 to 1995 and was not completed, as the Soviet Union was dissolved in 1991.



what you don't remember and once again why I have to post after you and point out your ignorance is that you are the one who said that was the reason America is spending (what I posted in the 'who's the neclear threat' "Taxpayers in Florida will pay $856.4 million for nuclear weapons in FY2006. For the same amount of money, the following could have been provided:

15,839 Elementary School Teachers
184,812 People Receiving Health Care
685,527 Children Receiving Health Care
141 New Elementary Schools
14,892 Music and Arts Teachers
1,096,510 Homes with Renewable Electricity

(one of the above not all combined)

That's just one state... here's where you can see how much money you are wasting funding our dictator...

http://database.nationalpriorities.o...rw/7.0.1.1.2.1 "

and you said... "their is this thing called "mutual assured destruction" (just go ahead and cut and paste for google)

The USA is the biggest nuclear threat....thank fucking god."


Being a threat does not mean that we keep building bombs... it means we stop becuase we know if we build more we will all die... and why in the same thread I posted the article stating the US was... "
LAS VEGAS -- The Defense Department's plan to detonate 700 tons of explosives at the Nevada Test Site is intended to simulate a nuclear blast as part of Pentagon research into development of low-yield nuclear weapons, a science advisory group charged this week.

The Pentagon refused to confirm or deny the claim, made by the Federation of American Scientists, a Washington-based liberal policy group opposed to development of nuclear weapons. "


then you quickly shut the fuck up and made fun of loose change in the same thread... so...

who's the one that is wrong... and the shitty thing about being online, Bong, is your ignorance is recorded evertime you type something... it's a joke that you forget how dumb you are and continue to post after me... but keep it up, this was fun proving how dumb you sound... it's easier when you already proved it and I'll I have to do is copy and paste...

[Bong30]

what you don't remember and once again why I have to post after you and point out your ignorance is that you are the one who said that was the reason America is spending (what I posted in the 'who's the neclear threat' "Taxpayers in Florida will pay $856.4 million for nuclear weapons in FY2006. For the same amount of money, the following could have been provided:

15,839 Elementary School Teachers
184,812 People Receiving Health Care
685,527 Children Receiving Health Care
141 New Elementary Schools
14,892 Music and Arts Teachers
1,096,510 Homes with Renewable Electricity

(one of the above not all combined)

That's just one state... here's where you can see how much money you are wasting funding our dictator... Dodge the question go right to your regular schtick...... BUSH BAD dictator bad bad

http://database.nationalpriorities.o...rw/7.0.1.1.2.1 "

and you said... "their is this thing called "mutual assured destruction" (just go ahead and cut and paste for google) you should have cut and pasted it cause you still dont know what im talking about.

The USA is the biggest nuclear threat....thank fucking god."

In preschool...... they teach big, bigger, biggest.....

when you talk nukes, you are in the "CLUB" a big nuke is just as bad as the biggest nuke.

MAD means no one throughs the first stike, cause you know all will die.


Being a threat does not mean that we keep building bombs... it means we stop becuase we know if we build more we will all die...(wrong, not build them, USE them) and why in the same thread I posted the article stating the US was... " (i dont fucking care about thisVVVVVVV)
LAS VEGAS -- The Defense Department's plan to detonate 700 tons of explosives at the Nevada Test Site is intended to simulate a nuclear blast as part of Pentagon research into development of low-yield nuclear weapons, a science advisory group charged this week.

The Pentagon refused to confirm or deny the claim, made by the Federation of American Scientists, a Washington-based liberal policy group opposed to development of nuclear weapons. "

GUMBY WE HAVE NUKES let me tell you ^^^^^ smoke screen. They test all the time. What does this bullshit prove


then you quickly shut the fuck up and made fun of loose change in the same thread... so... (I was trying to show you that i am atleast looking at your bullshit)

who's the one that is wrong... and the shitty thing about being online, Bong, is your ignorance is recorded evertime you type something... it's a joke that you forget how dumb you are and continue to post after me... but keep it up, this was fun proving how dumb you sound... it's easier when you already proved it and I'll I have to do is copy and paste...


once again gumby you cant even understand the concepts..... you need some education. Im just the one to do it.

you still dont understand MAD... you cant

[Gumby]

how does making more bomb assure there will be no M.A.D. to me if you don't want to use bombs you don't build them... we aren't telling Iran they can't build them for no fucking reason.. we are telling them that so we don't have to make a better one..

there is no point in making a bomb if you don't plan on using it... that's fucking stupid... that's what MAD means... it means we don't need to make bombs any more because we agreed we aren't going to use them...

what part of that don't you get?? do don't say we're not going to fight anymore than work on your kicks and punches... that's fucking stupid and it only makes others look like you and to kick and punch something... what don't you get about that??

http://www.thebulletin.org/doomsday_clock/current_time.htm

More than 31,000 nuclear weapons are still maintained by the eight known nuclear powers, a decrease of only 3,000 since 1998. Ninety-five percent of these weapons are in the United States and Russia, and more than 16,000 are operationally deployed. Even if the United States and Russia complete their recently announced arms reductions over the next 10 years, they will continue to target thousands of nuclear weapons against each other.

Furthermore, many if not most of the U.S. warheads removed from the active stockpile will be placed in storage (along with some 5,000 warheads already held in reserve) rather than dismantled, for the express purpose of re-deploying them in some future contingency. As a result, the total U.S. stockpile will remain at more than 10,000 warheads for the foreseeable future. Russia, on the other hand, seeks a verifiable, binding agreement that would ensure retired U.S. and Russian weapons are actually destroyed, a position we support.

Despite a campaign promise to rethink nuclear policy, the Bush administration has taken no steps to significantly alter nuclear targeting doctrine or reduce the day-to-day alert status of U.S. nuclear forces. If Russia is no longer an adversary, what is the rationale for retaining the ability to incinerate more than 2,000 Russian targets in as little as 30 minutes (or at all)?

Meanwhile, the U.S. national weapons laboratories, with the support of some in Congress, are hard at work refining existing warheads and designing entirely new weapons, with a special emphasis on those able to attack and destroy hardened and deeply buried targets. And to ensure that such new designs can be tested, the U.S. administration seeks to shorten the time required to resume testing to as little as twelve months--a move that can only encourage other countries, including India, Pakistan, and China, to consider resuming testing. Although the United States has not conducted a full-scale test since 1992--and the administration says it has no plans to resume testing at this time--it refuses to recognize the overwhelming international support for the Comprehensive Test Ban Treaty (CTBT) and refuses to participate in international meetings to discuss implementing the treaty. Should the required signatories, including India and Pakistan, fail to ratify the CTBT, thus jeopardizing its entry into force, the world will lose an essential tool in halting the further development and spread of nuclear weapons.


http://www.ctbto.org/

the CTBT

Article I stipulates the basic obligations of the Treaty, and prohibits State parties from carrying out any nuclear explosion.

Article II provides for the establishment of the Comprehensive Nuclear-Test-Ban Treaty Organization in Vienna to ensure the Treaty's implementation as well as providing a forum for consultation and cooperation.

Article III focuses on national implementation measures.

Article IX states that the Treaty is of unlimited duration.


so... you keep preaching your theory... i'll keep posting the facts... we are not allowed to reasearch or build nukes... if we do, other will... and well all blow up... what MAD means... but you keep thinking what you think it means... but tell me what the fuck CTBT means ok??

once again you're the ignorant fuck... i'm right... this is fun Bong... next time though.. try to think about something before you type it... it's getting too easy...

ttfn