Gumby
05-02-2006, 12:03 AM
the only show on tv that doesn't try to lie about anything... he's talking about colbert tonight as well.. and saying bush was sad about half way through...
Olbermann is the best news anchor out there...
activedenial
05-02-2006, 12:10 AM
For right now Keith Olbermann is alright. Since there is basically nobody else on tv, other than John stewart. Bill Moyers got to the truth, and took on tuff issues others didn't want to take on. Here is an example in this video.
http://storage.testpad.net/freedomfiles.org/Secretgov1.wmv
http://rinf.com/conspiracies/gov.html
Gumby
05-02-2006, 12:17 AM
ya i either watch olblermann or daily show at this time... what was Bill Moyers on? or do you mean in the ever catagory?? thanks for the link...
Bong30
05-02-2006, 12:38 AM
the only show on tv that doesn't try to lie about anything... he's talking about colbert tonight as well.. and saying bush was sad about half way through...
Olbermann is the best news anchor out there...
you mean the news anchor that started on sports center an entertainment show..... hhuuuummmmmmmm you guys kill me
next you will be saying how credible kattie is.....
Gumby
05-02-2006, 12:44 AM
where do you think news anchors start?? they are usually in the tv business...
sorry i don't trust o'riely... you see i like the people who have guests on that are good, and that actually have a chance to talk...
because a guy reported on sports makes him less valuable than someone else because??
BONG YOU'RE A FUCKING RETARD... THANKS AGAIN FOR PROVING IT...
Bong30
05-02-2006, 01:29 AM
where do you think news anchors start?? they are usually in the tv business...
sorry i don't trust o'riely... you see i like the people who have guests on that are good, and that actually have a chance to talk...
because a guy reported on sports makes him less valuable than someone else because??
BONG YOU'RE A FUCKING RETARD... THANKS AGAIN FOR PROVING IT...
whiiiipppp iiiittttttt you are my whipping boy......
ring ring ..........school is in
once again gumby ill bold the important stuff for ya:thumbsup:
Journalism is a discipline of collecting, analyzing, verifying, and presenting information gathered regarding current events, including trends, issues and people. Those who practice journalism are known as journalists.
News-oriented journalism often is described as the "first draft of history" (accredited to Philip Graham). Even though journalists often write news articles to a deadline, news media usually edit and proofread the results prior to publication.
Reporting and editorializing
Journalism has as its main activity the reporting of events ?? stating who, what, when, where, why and how, and explaining the significance and effect of events or trends. Journalism exists in a number of media: newspapers, television, radio, magazines and, since the end of the 20th century, the Internet.
Generally, publishers and consumers of journalism draw a distinction between reporting ?? "just the facts" ?? and opinions (such as editorials, the official opinions of the paper, and op-ed columns, "opposite the editorial page" commentary). However, this distinction sometimes can break down. Journalists may unintentionally fall prey to propaganda or disinformation. (See News management.) Journalists may give a biased account of facts by reporting selectively, for instance, focusing on anecdote, giving a partial explanation of actions, or engaging in "gotcha journalism." Foreign reporting may become more susceptible to bias, because the writers or editors of a newspaper in a given geographical area may find it more difficult to check the facts in reports about distant places. (See Media bias.) Budget cuts also can affect the bias of a story if they affect a writer or editor's resources.
Feature-writing
Newspapers and periodicals often contain features (see under heading feature style at article news style) written by journalists, many of whom specialize in this form of "in-depth" journalism.
Sources
Journalists' interaction with sources sometimes involves confidentiality. Many Western governments guarantee the freedom of the press. By extension, these freedoms sometimes also add legal protection for journalists, allowing them to keep the identity of a source private even when demanded by police or prosecutors.
can you see the diff between fact based and opinion based.....? no im sure
his show is for entertianment.... just like oriley and others they have advertisers right?
Gumby
05-02-2006, 01:58 PM
oh i get it.... because they have advertising they aren't news...
welll then shit... I guess, CNN isn't news... they have comercials... guess NBC isn't cause they do as well... I guess the news papers aren't news either because they must sell ads in order to get money to print them... damn Bong, I understand how that makes perfect sense, just please tell me this... who doesn't advertise?? ... that has to be the dumbest reason I think I've ever heard as to why Olbermann's show isn't news...
from your fucking stupid wikipedia...
Keith Olbermann (born January 27, 1959 in New York City) is an American news anchor and radio sportscaster. He currently hosts Countdown with Keith Olbermann on MSNBC, an hour-long nightly newscast that counts down the top news stories of the day. He is also on The Dan Patrick Show on ESPN radio.
Early career
Keith earned his Bachelor of Science degree in communications arts from Cornell University in 1979, while serving as sports director for WVBR, a student-run commercial radio station in Ithaca, New York.[1]
Olbermann began his professional career at UPI and RKO Radio before joining the nascent CNN in 1981. In 1984, he briefly worked as a sports anchor at WCVB-TV in Boston, before heading to Los Angeles to work at KTLA and KCBS. His work there earned him eleven Golden Mike Awards, and he was named Best Sportscaster by the California Associated Press three times.[2]
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Olbermann at ESPN
In 1992, he joined ESPN??s SportsCenter, a position he would hold until 1997. He often co-hosted SportsCenter with Dan Patrick, the two becoming a popular anchor team. Olbermann quickly became known for his wit, reporting style, and his tight chemistry with co-anchor Patrick. In 1995, Olbermann won a Cable ACE award for Best Sportscaster while co-anchoring the ??big show? as he called it (often referencing the Sunday night SportsCenter). Olbermann would later co-author a book with Patrick called The Big Show about their experiences working at SportsCenter.
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New Ventures
While at ESPN, Olbermann was instrumental in helping to launch ESPN Radio and ESPN2, most notably opening the first program on the latter network??designed at its outset to be the younger, hipper ESPN??by stating, ??Welcome to the end of our careers.?
In 1997, Olbermann left ESPN to host his own primetime show on MSNBC, named The Big Show. The news variety program covered three or four different topics in a one-hour broadcast. Olbermann also occasionally hosted the weekend edition of NBC Nightly News, and he was the co-pre-game host (along with Hannah Storm) of NBC Sports?? coverage of the 1997 World Series.
When the Monica Lewinsky scandal broke in 1998, he began hosting another news program, White House in Crisis. Olbermann says he became frustrated when the Lewinsky story constantly consumed his regular show. He left MSNBC after 17 months to return to sportscasting, although he has said that even if Lewinsky never happened, he still would have left to return to sports.[citation needed]
In 1998, Olbermann became an anchor and executive producer for The Keith Olbermann Evening News, a nightly sportscast similar to SportsCenter, which aired nightly on cable??s Fox Sports Net. While at Fox, Olbermann was again a host of the World Series and also Fox Broadcasting??s baseball Game of the Week.
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Return to reporting
Olbermann left Fox Sports in 2001 for ??other opportunities? and kept a relatively low profile. He worked for a time as a regular contributor on CNN and provided twice-daily sports commentary on the ABC Radio Network. The attacks of September 11, 2001 provided the impetus for Olbermann to return to full-fledged news reporting. He won an Edward R. Murrow Award for reporting from the site of the attacks for 40 days on ABC Radio.
Olbermann was rehired by MSNBC in early 2003 as a substitute host on Nachman and as an anchor for MSNBC??s coverage of the war in Iraq. His own show, Countdown, debuted shortly thereafter on March 31, 2003 in the 8:00 p.m. ET time slot previously held by programs hosted by Phil Donahue and, briefly, Lester Holt. On October 13, 2004, Olbermann launched Bloggermann, his Countdown weblog, hosted on MSNBC.com.[3] Olbermann leverages the open format of the blog to expound on facts or ideas alluded to in the broadcast, to offer personal musings and reactions, and to break news at odd hours.
Olbermann and Chris Matthews?? Hardball, also on MSNBC, tied for 1st place on MSNBC (and 21st place in all of cable news) in February 2006 with 400,000 viewers each for the month, according to Nielsen Media Research. CNN and FOX News Channel??s top programs for the month were Larry King Live with 901,000 viewers and The O??Reilly Factor with over 2.2 million viewers.[citation needed]
In June of 2005, Olbermann returned to ESPN Radio every Friday, co-hosting with his friend and former colleague Dan Patrick??s three-hour weekday program.
On November 28, 2005, Olbermann??s co-hosting duties expanded to Weekdays, 2:00-3:00 p.m. ET.
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Accusations of Bias
In an interview with Howard Kurtz of the Washington Post, Olbermann noted that his ongoing criticism of the Bush Administration places him "in the same part of the ballpark as a lot of liberals". [3] However, Olbermann has addressed accusations of liberal bias by claiming that he would be equally critical of a Democratic president who had invited criticism by his actions: "I mean, no one in 1998, no one accused me of being a liberal in 1998 because I was covering the Clinton-Lewinsky story. And whatever I had to do about it, I tried to be fair and honest and as accurate and as informed as possible, and allow my viewer to be the same way. And nowadays it??s the same thing. And now all of a sudden I??m a screaming liberal." [4]
A website, Olbermann Watch, has been recently launched [5] that attempts to document examples of Olbermann's alleged liberal bias. The website's owner, Robert Cox, has claimed that "there is one remaining show on cable news that has an overt liberal bias - Countdown with Keith Olbermann..." [6]
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Feud with Bill O??Reilly
Olbermann and Bill O??Reilly, his direct competitor on the Fox News Channel, feud openly. Olbermann has repeatedly named O??Reilly his ??Worst Person in the World?, while O??Reilly has petitioned for the ouster of Olbermann from MSNBC and the return of Phil Donahue to Olbermann??s time slot on the basis that Donahue's ratings far exceeded Olbermann's.
The feud stems from Olbermann's public enjoyment of Bill O'Reilly's harrassment suit; he jokingly kept track of money his viewers pledged to buy the tapes from O'Reilly's accuser, and ran a "Save the Tapes" campaign. Olbermann has continued to feature the lawsuit and its details in his comments on O'Reilly.
In March 2006, Bill O??Reilly dropped a caller from his live radio show, seemingly for mentioning Olbermann's name. O'Reilly accused the caller of being part of a larger group of individuals which had been calling O'Reilly with the sole purpose of mentioning Olbermann. The caller said "I like to listen to you during the day. I think Keith Olbermann--." when O'Reilly cut in, responding to "Mike" as follows:
We have your own phone number and we're going to turn it over to Fox security and you'll be getting a little visit. [...] When you call us, ladies and gentlemen, just so you know, we do have your phone number, and if you say anything untoward, obscene or anything like that, FOX security will contact your local authorities and you will be held accountable. Fair?"
In fact, it is Westwood One who broadcasts O'Reilly's radio show and not FOX. [4]
On a subsequent Countdown, Keith had "Mike" on as a guest to discuss the incident. Mike denied that he had said anything obscene before O'Reilly cut him off. He did state that he was one of a group of individuals from the web site Calling All Wingnuts who had decided to call into the O'Reilly show to voice their disagreement. He mentioned that a woman from that group was upset by a call from the same "Fox News Security" man.[5][6]
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Keith_Olbermann
to me that sounds like a pretty good background in journalism...
bong, i'm not joking... your shit is annoying, it makes no logical sense and is the dumbest shit I have ever heard anyone try to spew out of thier ass... it's horrible wanting to read others people's views when your dribble is under everything I post... please stop... can you not just ignore what the fuck I write...
I'm not a fucking moron I know what journalism is... you don't have to define it for me... and if you think it's not credible because he gets advertisement you're a FUCKING IGNORANT SHIT...
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