who's the nuclear threat??

[Gumby]

Taxpayers in Florida will pay $856.4 million for nuclear weapons in FY2006. For the same amount of money, the following could have been provided:

15,839 Elementary School Teachers
184,812 People Receiving Health Care
685,527 Children Receiving Health Care
141 New Elementary Schools
14,892 Music and Arts Teachers
1,096,510 Homes with Renewable Electricity

(one of the above not all combined)

That's just one state... here's where you can see how much money you are wasting funding our dictator...

http://database.nationalpriorities.org/cgi-bin/WebObjects/nppdatabase.woa/1/wo/6tTTJqbnXL6H4Zgy8BBurw/7.0.1.1.2.1


and incased you were wondering about how much of YOUR money has been wasted in Iraq...

http://nationalpriorities.org/index.php?option=com_wrapper&Itemid=182

Instead, we could have paid for
36,747,375
children to attend a year of Head Start.

nstead, we could have insured
166,133,384
children for one year.

Instead, we could have hired
4,808,117
additional public school teachers for one year.

Instead, we could have provided
13,449,816
students four-year scholarships at public universities.

Instead, we could have built
2,498,112
additional housing units.

Instead, we could have fully funded global anti-hunger efforts for
11
years.


Instead, we could have fully funded world-wide AIDS programs for
27
years.


Instead, we could have ensured that every child in the world was given basic immunizations for
92
years.

and look at the numbers i posted.. i got them at 3:38 (et) look how much they will change within the minute :)

just wanted to give you more confidence in Bush.... I say fuck the 2 term rule lets get that fucker back in 08!!!!

[Bong30]

sounds good commie but,

their is this thing called "mutual assured destruction" (just go ahead and cut and paste for google)

The USA is the biggest nuclear threat....thank fucking god.

[Gumby]

QUIT POSTING STUPID SHIT BEHIND ME BONG... IT'S USLESS... YOU ARE A FUCKING RETARD AND YOU GET IT WRONG EVERYTIME.... SO PLEASE JUST STOP UNTIL YOU EDUCATE YOUSELF A BIT...
Here's the def for you... and to help spell that you for you that doesn't mean keep making bombs... it mean that if we do we all blow up and die... and if you think it's money we spend helping people or protecting them... it's not... the links below show that for you as welll...


Severe, unavoidable reciprocal damage that superpowers are likely to inflict on each other or their allies in a nuclear war, conceived as the heart of a doctrine of nuclear deterrence.

What the GLOBAL FREEDOM FIGHTERS do...

http://nationalpriorities.org/index.php?option=com_content&task=view&id=121&Itemid=132

Here's a nice picture... and incase you can't read a graph that's a 4 percent...

http://nationalpriorities.org/index.php?option=com_content&task=view&id=97&Itemid=132

and this is how nice our dictator is at helping other people...

http://nationalpriorities.org/index.php?option=com_content&task=view&id=120&Itemid=132

WHO WANTS THE GLOBAL NAZI REGIME???

http://nationalpriorities.org/index.php?option=com_content&task=view&id=108&Itemid=132

[Gumby]

sounds good commie but,

their is this thing called "mutual assured destruction" (just go ahead and cut and paste for google)

The USA is the biggest nuclear threat....thank fucking god.

AND TO PROVE HOW FUCKING RETARDED YOU ARE... PLEASE STOP POSTING AFTER ME WITH YOUR IGNORANT BABBLE...

LAS VEGAS -- The Defense Department's plan to detonate 700 tons of explosives at the Nevada Test Site is intended to simulate a nuclear blast as part of Pentagon research into development of low-yield nuclear weapons, a science advisory group charged this week.

The Pentagon refused to confirm or deny the claim, made by the Federation of American Scientists, a Washington-based liberal policy group opposed to development of nuclear weapons.

But if the charge is verified, debate over the blast seems certain to shift beyond environmental effects on Nevada to international concerns over nuclear weapons proliferation.

The federation said it based its statement on a review of Pentagon budget requests since 2002 showing that the blast, scheduled for June 2, would serve as a "low-yield nuclear weapon simulation." Hans Kristensen, an analyst for the federation, said the Pentagon's Defense Threat Reduction Agency has carefully ducked the issue of whether the test was nuclear-related.

Policy analysts in and out of the Bush administration have suggested that the United States develop low-yield nuclear weapons. In 2001, the National Institute for Public Policy, a conservative nonprofit think tank, said new nuclear warheads should be developed for "bunker busting."

The Bush administration followed in 2002 with its Nuclear Posture Review, which made a similar argument. One of the veterans of the National Institute for Public Policy report, Linton Brooks, became the head of the National Nuclear Security Administration, which directs nuclear weapons research.

According to the Washington Post, a year ago Brooks told Congress that the United States lacked a nuclear warhead capable of destroying "hardened, deeply buried targets."

Despite the enthusiasm for the weapons research, Congress since 2001 has denied funding for such nuclear programs. Last year Congress cut $4 million from the administration's request to study a nuclear bunker buster, instead supporting study of a conventional weapon that could be used against buried targets.

Rep. David Hobson, R-Ohio, chairman of a key House subcommittee on the weapons issue, said in December that Congress would not back a ground-penetrating nuclear warhead. The Nuclear Threat Initiative, a nonprofit group working to reduce the likelihood of the use of nuclear weapons, said in November that the Bush administration would go ahead with a test of a mock earth-penetrating nuclear warhead, but with a different name and using Defense rather than Energy Department funding.

Kristensen said the test, while non-nuclear, could be used to further development of a nuclear bunker-busting warhead.

The test "is about fine-tuning tools for fighting nuclear wars," Kristensen said. "The nuclear war fighters are trying to calibrate a low-yield nuclear weapon against a relatively shallow target in limestone."

Kristensen said the goal of the test program was to find the weakest nuclear weapon that would still achieve the goal of knocking out hardened, underground structures. Lower-yield weapons would spread less radiation and fallout that would affect civilians and troops.

Kristensen's comments came less than a week after James Tegnelia, director of the Threat Reduction Agency, told reporters that the test would send "a mushroom cloud over Las Vegas." Although the agency quickly disavowed the comment and stressed that the test would be non-nuclear, the comment alarmed political leaders and residents who remember decades of atomic bomb tests at the Nevada Test Site, 65 miles northwest of Las Vegas.

Agency spokesmen said the explosion, although large, would not be seen, heard or felt in Las Vegas and would not produce any radioactive dust to blow downwind.

Asked Tuesday about the federation's comments, agency spokesman David Rigby said, "I don't confirm them. I don't deny them. I don't discuss the quality of their information.

"This is a test to have better predictive tools to defeating hardened and underground targets," Rigby said. "It is not a precursor to a nuclear test. It is not a nuclear test."

The June blast "has been redefined over the past several years," and the goal now is to provide data on how such massive explosions and their ground shocks affect structures in different geologic situations, he said.

Senate Minority Leader Harry Reid of Nevada is scheduled to meet with Tegnelia on Thursday. Sharyn Stein, a Reid spokeswoman, said the goal of the test would be discussed.

"Nevadans have heard a lot of frightening rumors about this planned test," Reid said in a prepared statement. "I look forward to talking with Director Tegnelia and getting accurate information. I'm pleased the director is able to meet with me so quickly, and I hope we'll be able to settle any concerns about the safety of Divine Strake," referring to the test.

http://www.shns.com/shns/g_index2.cfm?action=detail&pk=BOMBTEST-04-05-06

[activedenial]

Russia has nuclear lighthouses that are unmanned that could be used to make dirty bombs. Why don't you post some stuff about how the chernobyl reactor is slowly collapsing. The usa is more responable than other countries when it comes to nukes.

[Gumby]

Fact Sheet on the Accident at Three Mile Island

http://www.nrc.gov/reading-rm/doc-collections/fact-sheets/3mile-isle.html



Monday, May 1, 2006

Hanford cleanup cost soars to $11.3 billion ... if Congress will pay

It's costing Americans $1.4 million a day to build a facility to safely treat millions of gallons of radioactive and toxic waste stored in the Hanford Nuclear Reservation's leak-prone underground tanks.

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When the project is completed, the bill could total $38 for every man, woman and child in the nation -- that's if the $11.3 billion price tag doesn't swell even further. It has nearly tripled in less than six years, making it a massive taxpayer burden.

This is a critical time for the project. An increasingly impatient Congress is now deciding how much money to contribute to the effort -- considered the most important step in the cleanup of the sprawling desert site on the Columbia River. Some fear lawmakers could simply wash their hands of it and walk away.

"The whole house of cards is ready to collapse," said Gerald Pollet, director of Heart of America Northwest, a Hanford watchdog group.
Double-walled tanks
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These double-walled tanks at Hanford each hold 1 million gallons of highly radioactive nuclear waste from bomb making. Built in 1984, they were later covered with 5 feet of dirt. The liquid waste that's inside them is slated to be pumped out and turned into glass.

The challenge of safely disposing of 53 million gallons of deadly waste left over from decades of plutonium production has caused the U.S. Department of Energy and its contractors to stumble repeatedly.

Weak -- even negligent -- management has pushed the project's completion from 2011 back to 2017 or later and driven costs up by billions, according to reports from government agencies, the Army Corps of Engineers and watchdog groups.

At the same time, environmental and health risks are mounting. The corrosive waste weakens the walls of the tanks and the risk of leaks keeps growing, regulators admit.

The federal officials running the Hanford cleanup and their contractors apologize for the delays and errors in cost calculations. They promise to do better.

"Everything that I do on this project each day is to identify with certainty what the costs and schedule basis is, and to restore confidence and credibility in this project," said John Eschenberg, the Energy Department's manager for the project.

Construction is under way on the massive "vitrification" project, which one day would turn the waste into a glassy compound that will trap the radioactive material for safe storage. But the department's contractor -- construction giant Bechtel National Inc. -- has had to put the brakes on most of the building due to safety and technical problems.

Countless additional factors have helped drive up costs. They include the initial miscalculation of the amount and cost of materials needed for the project and underestimation of the technical and regulatory hurdles facing the facility. In March, a team of experts identified more than two dozen issues that could prevent the plant from working as planned. The plant was expected to operate for nearly two decades.


http://seattlepi.nwsource.com/local/268605_hanford01.html


if you're gonna start pointing fingers don't forget to protect your balls...

Nuclear waste plans accident in waiting
Monday, May 01, 2006

They apparently began with the premise that there is no problem that is too big to bury.

And then some more problems cropped up, so they decided to rely on another method: If the facts seem to be working against you, then just change the facts.

The problem? Spent nuclear fuel is stored at sites all across the nation. The proposed solution? Bury it beneath a mountain 90 miles from Las Vegas.
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There are problems - major problems - with this fix. Imagine transporting radioactive nuclear waste across the nation, through cities and small towns and farm land, along rail lines and across rivers and past reservoirs. Imagine further an accident, a train plunging off its tracks, a truck crashing downtown in a metropolis. Imagine a terrorist cell learning the routes that will be taken on the way to Yucca Mountain.

The nightmarish scenarios are limitless.

But that is not the whole story. It gets even worse.

Scientists charged with examining Yucca Mountain apparently didn't like some of the facts they found in their studies. But they didn't let that stop them from giving Yucca supporters what they wanted.

While the U.S. attorney handling the case decided on Tuesday not to pursue criminal charges against the hydrologists who worked on Yucca Mountain, the facts, found in e-mails they exchanged from 1998 to 2000, are damning. One example:

Wrote one scientist: "This is as good as it's going to get. If they need more proof, I will be happy to make up more stuff."

There is evidence that they fudged dates. And threw out facts that didn't work for them. And kept two sets of books.

They may not be facing criminal charges. But that is no reason to believe anything that has been said about Yucca Mountain by supporters of the waste-burial plans.

Locally, spent nuclear fuel is kept on site at the closed Yankee Atomic Electric Co. plant in Rowe. There are similar situations at facilities from coast to coast. While no one wants nuclear fuel stored in his back yard, a situation that is less than ideal should not present a chance to create a potential disaster.

But that's exactly what the Yucca Mountain plan would be. Even without the falsified science. The proposal is a calamity waiting to happen. It should be permanently shelved.

http://www.masslive.com/editorials/republican/index.ssf?/base/news-0/1146297078297720.xml&coll=1

Last just the biggest/dumbets one ever and news from today... should i keep going or you wanna keep pointing fingers... russia is bad but that doesn't mean we ok cause we're not worse... which we probably are... is it just that hard to face it that you're being ruled by a dictator??? look at the years... it all starts in 2001... i wonder why... WAKE THE FUCK UP

[activedenial]

Who cares how much it costs to get the cleanup the waste as long as it's getting done. Instead of worrying about that, there should be a post about how the US is going to set off an underground bomb thats gong to spread around toxic nuclear dust. They are using the same test sight for the experiment. I think thats fucked up!! Thank god I'm not a guinnee pig living in nevada.

[pisshead]

ain't no bigger commie than lord bush. he's a fascist too...

commie/fascist/liberal/conservative...just different flavors of tyranny...two different rails on the same set of train tracks towards dictatorship.

[Gumby]

Who cares how much it costs to get the cleanup the waste as long as it's getting done. Instead of worrying about that, there should be a post about how the US is going to set off an underground bomb thats gong to spread around toxic nuclear dust. They are using the same test sight for the experiment. I think thats fucked up!! Thank god I'm not a guinnee pig living in nevada.


Just what I thought... you didn't even read the post right above the first time you tried to tell me what I should and shouldn't put... why not trying to read what I write before telling me what I should and shouldn't ok ;)

don't become worse than Bong...

[activedenial]

You copy and paste so much shit, Ya, I didn't read the whole thing. Maybe You should shorten it to important parts, so more people read what you put.

[pisshead]

Just what I thought... you didn't even read the post right above the first time you tried to tell me what I should and shouldn't put... why not trying to read what I write before telling me what I should and shouldn't ok ;)

don't become worse than Bong...

you can't expect to get through to people when you at least know they don't even care enough to take five minutes to read something.

that's what ignore is for.

[Gumby]

I know since when was reading hard?? It's because people are programmed to think what they are told... they don't want to read about anything... they want to be told what to think... what's cool and popular... what everone else is thinking... and do that... it's a newpaper article... one of them... jesus fucking christ, can you not read a paper... they have like 50 in them... it takes about 3 minutes...

sorry... if you need to be told what to think try this

you are stupid if you cannot read to form a single thought... it is called ignorace and isn't cool... stop being told what to think and form a thought for yourself...

hope that wasn't too long...

[activedenial]

^^LOL at least you can type a thought. Most of your posts are copy and paste. You don't get your point across that way in my oppinion, thats all I'm saying. Your saying bush is a dictator??? Too funny, why not bring up the voting machines without printers. It's much larger than bush.

[Gumby]

http://filmstripinternational.com/filmstrips.php?filmstrip=election

you mean this... you don't even read what I write so how would you know what I do and don't type??

[Gumby]

and your dictator posts... by the way I don't type all the time cause I try to provide sources for other people to read and form their own thought... not to be told what I think and what they should think... It's called backing up what you say... you are Bong aren't you???

http://filmstripinternational.com/filmstrips.php?filmstrip=despotism

http://filmstripinternational.com/index.php

http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=4998211337146829882&pl=true

http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=-7392520355401418874&q=bush+dictator&pl=true

[activedenial]

Nice! Sorry, you have done your research! Good video. I have seen another video with more evidence as well. Too bad entertainment news doesn't pick up on it.

[Gumby]

thank you... now go say I'm right about Colbert being funny... :)

just joking with you... but please do read my post I promise some of them have some information in them somewhere...

smoke a bowl it goes better... and it's better than tv i promise....

[pisshead]

people need to be shocked as they break down their cognitive dissonance, they need to not like what they see...it's certainly better than going on obviously...

i spent a long, long, long time pondering 9/11 reading everything i could find on it and learning history before i reached the conclusions i did, and if people could just realize that, things could change so fast. the further we sink into dictatorship, the harder it will be to overcome it, especially as the police, and eventually the military are trained to openly engage populations in this country, especially those who protest. that point is at least another major terrorist attack or 2 away.

the military is already practicing all over the country how to take over domestic cities and put curfews in place, and train to process people into camps. they've been doing this for years. they use real people who volunteer to be taken over. their guns are seized for their safety, they are rounded up, they complain and say "i'm a citizen, i have rights. please no, not the camp..." the military has been working with local police departments too to enforce search warrants. all this has been going on for at least 10 years, from the videos i've personally seen.

i don't like what i perceive as a military/industrial/media complex world dictatorship using thousands of years of perfected propaganda to convince it's good for us.

the things i post have numerous links within, and then those have even more. just read everything you can find.

[Gumby]

same here I couldn't believe 9/11 until I watched the third video that was over an hour long... they've done a good job programming us, but I think the internet is helping in ways they never thought possible... people educate them selves and anyone can post anything... freedoms they did very well taking away from us (patriot act)... but none the less the message that people need to learn instead of being told what to think isn't getting out... But I guess that's how Hilter got so many people to follow him... it's instinct... i just hope more info gets out there and slowly people will wonder for themselves and go off and learn something...

I see a lot in the news and on tv that is bringing it up and with 32% liking bush it's hard to keep that news on the for front... people want to know the bad things, it's just getting it out there that's hard... and further more his 'bad things' aren't light, he's a fucking dictator...

I think it's just hard going from - Hey lets fight terror... to - Hey I blew up the WTC.... but maybe the word will keep getting out there and sooner or later the people will gain rule of this country again and not a dictator

[pisshead]

so many people i know who i thought would never actively be aware of what 9/11 was are turning now...and it has nothing to do with alex jones.

just because once you see the whole spectrum of evidence of crimes surrounding 9/11 and building 7 and what was clear foreknowledge and preparation light years beyond the capability of some tinpot muslim guys who were clearly allowed to go about making fools of themselves, acting nothing like the devout muslim jihadists we're led to believe they are while being told to go take some flight lessons, it's impossible to go back to some ridiculous 19 freedom hating muslim hijacker crap.

it just doesn't explain everything, it explains very little once you get a little bit deeper. but we don't want to do that, we want to be superficial and use the left/right paradigm because it's easy.

[activedenial]

I believed the official version of 9-11 as well right after it happened. Me and my friends even printed out the face of bin laden, went to the local gun club and blew his paper face away. Then I started reading on the internet. The CIA confessions, operations paperclip, operation northwoods ect. It all falls into place. This country would be better than any other country if criminals weren't in charge. We need someone like kucenich, or nader. They never get the balance of airtime on the entetainment news though.

[Bong30]

I just watched about 25 min of loose change....

it is laughable..............(should say for entertainment only)


hey gumby seen flight 93 yet?

[psychocat]

The US is and always was the biggest threat where nukes are concerned simply because they showed a willingness to use them not once but twice,I cannot think of any nation that would want to inflict the consequences of an atomic blast on another yet they did !! Twice??

Just cause a man has a bigger gun it don't make him right.

[Bong30]

The US is and always was the biggest threat where nukes are concerned simply because they showed a willingness to use them not once but twice,I cannot think of any nation that would want to inflict the consequences of an atomic blast on another yet they did !! Twice??

Just cause a man has a bigger gun it don't make him right.

it saved us from having to invade Japan and costing millions of lives, on both sides.

They seamed to have changed their tune after that, and now we are friends.

[Gumby]

I just watched about 25 min of loose change....

it is laughable..............(should say for entertainment only)


hey gumby seen flight 93 yet?


should i say for entertainment purposes only... and NO...

I like to educate myself, not pull myself into a fake world...

is this movie laughable??

http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=-3498980438587461603&q=9%2F11

how funny is that??

Bong please explain to me when they started recording cell phone calls from planes and since when have they been able to quote what passengers on planes say... then please tell me where the 93 quotes came from...
just do that... tell me how they managed to record what they said on the phones that day and I'll watch your fucking movie... until then... pretend I don't exsist... and Bong until you get the million shut the fuck up about this one... incase you misplaced that link...
http://www.reopen911.org/Contest.htm