Garden Knowm Pics

[SeedlessOne]

Ok man I will post in her for the next couple of days to show you wach day the growth rate...did what you said tho and here is day 1

[Th3 sand m4n]

are you going to do a seed journal?

[JiGGabOo]

i dont get what ur sentence says....spelling and commas might help <3

[SeedlessOne]

Yeah holy shit that made no sense. That college education is payin off. yeah this might turn into a log...

[SeedlessOne]

Day 2 of transplant

[the image reaper]

so, are you going to post a pic every day of your seedlings growth ? ... how exciting ... :rolleyes:

[SeedlessOne]

Sure..i gotta firgure out why they stopped growin...so Garden Knowm told me to transplant so i did...and for anyone who doesnt know, this is 10 days from seed. MH 1000w tomorrow :)

[Garden Knowm]

seedless.. she is fine for 10 days...

LOL
hang in there...

: )

[Jdog7000]

Grow faster damn it!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

[SeedlessOne]

Haha thanks for the "grow faster damnit" jdog!! Ok here is day two of the transplant, day 11 from seed...i know you guys think im crazy for this but i know something is wrong with these...almost all the first set of round leaves and like pale yellow. I know these fall off and die but at 11 days?? I miss them growing like they were...fast!~

Notice pic 2 there is yellow on the first set of true leaves...and the whole plant does have as dark as green color as the rest of them

The 3rd pic is the same plant as the 1st pic...see the growth?? the pics were taken 6 days apart...kinda slow...holla back at me guys peace!~

[SeedlessOne]

Sorry forgot to post pics, lets try this agian

[Garden Knowm]

perrrfect.. hang in there.. you are very close.... to exploding stage..

It is called a seedling.. it is developing roots now.... once the roots get developed. another day or 3.. it will really start to grow...

love

[Th3 sand m4n]

so, are you going to post a pic every day of your seedlings growth ? ... how exciting ... :rolleyes:


Thats is what i was talking about... a log/grow journal what ever the fuck you want to call it.

[SeedlessOne]

Hey i just wanted to say thank you for everyone that has helped me!! This forum is great..but anyways i got the 1000w mh on there as it came in today..along with my cooltube. The second pic above- that little guy doesnt look to good..the yellow seems to be getting worse(transplant stress maybe?)...new pics tomorrow bright and early

[Th3 sand m4n]

good luck with the grow seedlessone. so far the plants are looking good :rasta:

[Jdog7000]

What ph are we dealing with here?

[SeedlessOne]

Well i got a rapist (haha i know the spelling is wrong) soil meter...i am getting a reading in the soil of about 6.5ph. Another pic of the one that is getting yellow by the second~

[Jdog7000]

Not looking good.
It looks totally messed up. lol Sorry don't mean to laugh.
I just can't figure out whats wrong. Totally baffled. Are all of them doing that or just the 1?

[Th3 sand m4n]

ok scratch what i said earlier... Your plant looks like shit now :thumbsup:
Didnt you say something in another post about tan bugs living in the soil? That could be the problem :cool:

[SeedlessOne]

yeah i had a couple of tan bugs in the soil..that is only one plant that looks like that...but on all the rest the fisrt set of round leaves have all turned yellow on the rest....

[Th3 sand m4n]

I would transplant your babys into insect free soil. You should allways sterilize your soil before planting if you think something like that is in it.

[SeedlessOne]

Well i transplanted 4 of them into new soil and left the other in cups...(so i can see if it helps)

[SeedlessOne]

One question tho...if i transplanted into new soil wouldnt it jsut get infected due to the root ball with the old soil...how should i get rid of these?? Can i mix something in my water or something...

[Garden Knowm]

ummmmm.. you should not have 1000 watts on your seedlings..

you don't do you?

[SeedlessOne]

Still to early for that? Take it off?

[Garden Knowm]

yes take it off.. How long has it been on?
How far away from your plant? How many feet?

What is the alternative... ?
Do you have a CFL?

: )

[Jdog7000]

I used a 1000 watt MH to sprout my seedlings and I got alot of males and hermies because of it. Switch to something else.
If it's the one plant it is probably just geneticly weak. And if it doesn't come back kill it.

[SeedlessOne]

It has been on there since yesterday...i have one 150w cfl...that is not gonna be enough light for 10 plant is it?? It is about 2 feet away from plant. But here are pics for day 3 of transplant. These are 3 different ladies..is the 3rd pic overwatering?? That is what i thought but jsut seems impossible but of well....

[GrowinGreen23]

where did you get the soil, is it MG? yours lights may be too close and burning the little ones? I can't say for sure but you may be over nuting your plants

[SeedlessOne]

I have added no nutes to it

[Garden Knowm]

hey seed..

yes.. use the CFL, one CFL will be enough for all you plants for the next couple days..

Get the light closer than ten inches if you can. bring all the plants as close to gether as you can and then bring the CFL with in 2-5 inches of them
: )
Also. consider purchasing a light bulb splitter and getting another CFL...

The pictures LOOK good..

: )

[SeedlessOne]

Ok well i got a 4ft flour 6500k 80watt on the 4 in the pot and i got the 150w cfl on the rest in the cups...i am going out of town thru. and wont return till sun...what should i do leave the current light set up or what?? I think i love you Knowm

[Garden Knowm]

Are you in the Dirty SOUTH?

LOL
love

: )

Leave the fluorescent lights (including the CFL) on for 18+ hours a day while you are gone.

Make sure you give the plants adequate water.. especially the plants in the cups.. Cups can loose moisture (dry out) every fast because of the limited soil...

you turned the monster 1000 off correct?
that will come in handy very very soon! : )

happy travels

: )

[SeedlessOne]

Yeah the monster in tucked away under the bed!! Damn-it ive loved that thing..haha but like you said it will have its time...i am worried about them possibly blowing up while im gone and hitting the light...its about 2 inches away, should i move it up a lil before i go? i was wanting to water today but if i do that then im afraid i wont be able to water before i go..catch my drift? Down south foreva!! oh yeah if i get back and they look the same i think my head will pop!

[Garden Knowm]

2 inches is fine.. if it does grow into the light you will just get a minor burn.. Put the light off to the side an inch or so, so that if it does go into the light, the main cola/stalk doesn't get hit/burnt... just a leaf..

love

[SeedlessOne]

Ok so if i come back Sunday and they look the same then i guess i know that i fucked em up...right? I wish these things would show me some kinda growth..but i am keepin my faith b/c of u knowm....ill be posting pics bright and early tomorrow~~~ and il be sure to do as you said

[SeedlessOne]

And for no reason at all i thought i might show you what Im currently blowing on...its pretty straight..for the dirty that is!!!!!!:rasta:

[Th3 sand m4n]

And for no reason at all i thought i might show you what Im currently blowing on...its pretty straight..for the dirty that is!!!!!!:rasta:

Ya i would have to say thats pretty straight lol :rasta:

[SeedlessOne]

Ok well is day 4 since transplant..still seeing little to none in the growth...will be outta town till sunday so that is when ill post agian...hopefully to be suprised when i get home!!!

[Chaos]

yes lol...put some compact florescent lights on that....nothin big like that wait until its older and bigger so it can withstand that lol....

[SeedlessOne]

Ok well i am back and i think this is about day 6 or 7 since transplant. Seed from 4/20....looks a little better...this is my best one!!!!!

[Garden Knowm]

Looks like a sexy bitch full of love to mEEee!

[Jdog7000]

Looking much better. Keep it up!!!

[SeedlessOne]

Ok so should this thing start to blow up?? And when will be the best time to start to use that 1000w MH?

[Garden Knowm]

easy killer...
LOL
what day are YOU at?

at day 14 you can SAFLEY put the 1000 watt BULB at 3-5 feet... But you better have good airflow and a big enough pot for your lady.. caus ethat light will dry out a small pot/cup in no time at all...

Then lower the light 6 inches every day until you can get it close enought to not burn the plant..

Which should be 6-20 inches... Use the "HAND HEAT TEST"...

love : ) cometh

[SeedlessOne]

It is day 16 or 17 so is it ok now? or should i wait till they all look like the pic above?

[Garden Knowm]

Yes..you should wait till you post a picture...

Do you have 3 or 4 nodes yet?

: )

[SeedlessOne]

Ok so here is todays update...it has been a while and i am still convinced something is wrong...shouldnt these be bigger than they are?? Well here they are

[SeedlessOne]

Ok i am thinking about scrapping this whole thing....very discouraging....maybe start over..but that wont be for another 4 months or so....

[HapaPride]

dont scrap it, it looks fine... patience will go a long way

the only way you will learn is to go through it yourself

looks a lot better than post #74, so it is doing something

[SeedlessOne]

Ok here is todays update...its been 3 days since last pics were taken...the lil lady in the 3,4 and 5th pics worry me a little. See how those 2nd leaves are so droppy?? Is this overwatering or what?

[The Grim Reefer]

How often are you watering them? Do you know what the PH in the soil is? What kind of water are you giving them?

[Garden Knowm]

Are you over watering?

: )

[orangeman]

Well from the look of the soil it's nourished with water but maybe too much? Just dont give it any water and let it dry out a bit and see if the leaves un-wilt.

[SeedlessOne]

Ok i am using PH adjusted to 6.8 RO water. And i just cant believe it is overwater b/c i just watered them yesterday and that would of made it day 7 since last water. I have never watered them earlier than 5 days apart from last watering...

[Garden Knowm]

so, they are not over watered...

hang tight.. they are probably fine!!

LOL

iloveyou

[SeedlessOne]

Ok here is todays update...please leave some feedback peace out guys!!!

Pics 1 and 2= there is some light black stuff on the leaves...it is not durt and it does not come off...and it doesnt look like dead leaves. Any ideas??

Pics 3 and 4= My best one...how is it looking??

Pics 5= This is what the rest pretty much look like...

[Garden Knowm]

Still alive.. not much to tell you.. does not LOOK PERFECT... but they are seedlings and seedlings rarely look perfect..

thanks for keepiing us posted!!

: )

[horror business]

The last picture you posted (the 5th one) looks like it will be yummy in a few months... If I had to guess, I'd say it's looking more and more sativa dominant!

[SeedlessOne]

yeah well im not sure if i ever posted this but the strain is KC Northern Lights

[horror business]

I'm also jelous of your camera ;)

[SeedlessOne]

Ok got a question for all you peeps out there...should i start a very low dose of nutes this week for the bigger ones in the big pots?? If so howe much etc. And when i transplant the rest that in cups to 3 gallon should i add bone and blood meal with my soil...and how much etc. thanks guys...

yeah btw it is a sony cybershot it takes great pic but the autofocus is kinda tricky sometimes....

[Garden Knowm]

no fertilizer. not yet.

more pictures please

[SeedlessOne]

Ok Garden Knowm more pics as requested...

pic 1= I took this one it a little less lighting...see all the darkness in the leaves? It more like the color of them is just slowly fading..that is why i consider a small amount of nutes, but you said not yet so i listened like a good boy...

Pic 2= My best one...she is looking great and growing nicley...working on the 3rd node

Pic 3=This leaf is also starting to do the same as pic 1....

pic 4= this is what they all pretty much look like at this point..

[Garden Knowm]

what size pots
what kind of soil

love

[SeedlessOne]

I went with the 3 gallon as you suggested and i used shultz nursery organic mix with 30% peralite.

[Garden Knowm]

awesome... sounds good

[SeedlessOne]

Do you have any idea why some of leaves a darking like that???

[SeedlessOne]

ok it has been like 30 days and its really not picking up like it should....this looks like it was a waste of time...i think i will not have enough time to finish these...

[Garden Knowm]

not a waste of time. you have learned a lot.

the leaves should not be that color and unfortunatley I am looking at them with a pda cause I am in bumfuck and don't have access to a comuter for the next month. so I am having trouble seeing exactly what is wrong.

how many nodes does your biggest plant have?

[SeedlessOne]

The biggest one is starting its 5 node....but it is still very small..say 3 inches high and its span 3 1/2 inches across. Like i said the first one popped on 4/23. As of now 4 have that dark color to them and do not appear to be growing. I have another that is on its 3 node but that one is starting to darken also. Ok i know it is no a total waste of time but there is one big problem...im not sure what happened so how do i fix my mistake for next time?? ive done the reasearch and even had someone helping me that has 3 grow under the belt...i just dont know what went wrong....please help.

[Garden Knowm]

lol seed, your killing me


iloveyou

[SeedlessOne]

i love you too

[Jdog7000]

Are you feeding it?
You should have started feeding it. When Knowm said not yet. I don't think he can see the pic's very well. Because you can see the 3rd true leaves have grown in the pic right before that.
If your plants are not growing and look like they are eating itself. Then it is starved. Is the stem purple. If it is, they need food.
You should start feeding them anyway. Once you do. They will grow out of any wierd growth paterns most likely.
Get some veg food. Organic is best. 20-20-20 is a good chemical nutrient level.They need nitrogen bad. Thats what makes them strong. And that what makes them grow.

[SeedlessOne]

So how much dosage should i use...i know not full one. That is what it looks like...like the color is getting sucked right outta them. The stems are not purple tho...

[horror business]

Can we see a pic update?

[4x5]

To dilute the ferts, make a full strength 1 gallon solution(as per directions), pour out half and replace with plain water, shake up, pour out half again and replace with plain water(to make a 25% dilution), that should be a low enough solution to start them on; when it's time of course. After they are done with that diluted gallon, mix up another and only pour out half and replace once(to make a half dilution). This may seem wastefull, but is easier than eyeballing whether you're using half a teaspoon or a 3rd or a quarter, plus when written down you can tweak this on future grows and set up a method of growing to eliminate certain descrepancies(namely over feeding, big problem for some people I hear), making your growing experience easier. You dont have to be OCD like me to expect performance from your plants, but by building a log, you can know what to expect before it happens.

[SeedlessOne]

i was thinking about using fish emulsion...is this a wise choice??

[Garden Knowm]

I hope you are right jdog. but the soil he is using should provide plenty of fert for 2 months. a diluted feeding will definitley not hurt.

[Jdog7000]

ah,I knew you had a good reason for saying that. I just missed that, I guess. If thats the case. I'm not sure anymore? lol
My bad KNowm. Praise KNowm

[SeedlessOne]

Well i wish i would of read this before i watered with a diluted fish emulsion mixture. Oh well...we will see what happens. My goal now is just to get this plant to where i can take some clones. Then from there i am going to give them to someone who is goona start his crop. Then i will be taking clones from him to start my 2nd crop. So if i get clones ill be a happy camper!!

Will update with pics tomorrow....

[Garden Knowm]

Seedless.. do not worry.. the fish emulsion will not hurt your plants.. one of the benifits of using organic nutrients is that they are less likely to burn your plants....

how did that stuff smell? LOL you will probably get some bugs attracted to that stuff.. if you have a dog or a cat don't leave them alone with your plants.. they love to dig around and play in fish emulsion and eat it.. they will knock down your plants in the process...

.....iloveyou

[SeedlessOne]

So Knowm if my only goal is to take female clones when can i do it. That sounded really noob...let me reprhase that. I know when most people take cones, and i have a great book to walk me thru the process. but since clones are all i am interested in, when is the soonest i could take them?? Or i guess the better question is when is the soonest i could sex them? Does that make sense?

[Jdog7000]

That is the question. When you see that it's a female. Thats when you clone it.About 6 weeks after it sprouts. It pops out pre flowers.
I think that food is good for it.

[GTV1750]

Too much fertilizer and/or too much water in the soil. The plant is obviously stressed and might be (at this point) just a 'dry' run exercise. I find a second hobby is helpful to keep you occupied while the plants grow. Go find someone to hump....

[SeedlessOne]

Well only one of them has ever recieved nutes...and that was yesterday...so no way that is what happened. And with overwatering dont the leaves droop?? I have none of that either....

[SeedlessOne]

ok well i just got home (been out for 2 days now) and i check on my lil lady that recieved some fish emulsion..let me say that i could see a huge difference. The rest recieved some today and i will be updating in a few days to show you the progress...thanks guys!!!

[SeedlessOne]

Ok here is a long due update...the fish emulsion was given to them bout 4 days ago and it has helped quite a bit...I should use this everyother watering correct?? When should i start to up the amount given?? Right now im only using it 25% of what it says on the bottle...The last question i have is, how behind are these for how old they are??

[SeedlessOne]

Has even one given up on me?? LOL i think i woulda too!!

[HapaPride]

well lets not look at the past and just look ahead regardless how your plants look at 1mth... you know now that they are nice and healthy... continue doing what your doing.... we all look forward to seeing the outcome in a few months

[Jdog7000]

yep, exactly. There is no way of knowing that anyway. But the roots are established so if you treat it good. It will grow fast. And soon it will be ready to flower. Like in about 2-3 weeks!

[Jdog7000]

By the way, I told you guys....LMAO!!!

[Garden Knowm]

looks great..

hail jdogg!!!!!!!!!!!!

: )
love

[Garden Knowm]

Has even one given up on me?? LOL i think i woulda too!!


wE WOULD never GIVE UP ON YOU..

:)

[Oregon Greens]

:confused: Keep growing it until you find out it's a male then next time you will know to get a clone.:smokin:

[SeedlessOne]

Damn you Oregon...wishing bad things for my LADIES...haha man glad to see you stopped by to check this forum out...peace out Oregon and go buy a mic

[SeedlessOne]

Here is an update...how does everything look?? Any input would be great...peace out

[horror business]

It looks like the fish emulsion really is working. It will start growing really fast now. Good luck!

[SeedlessOne]

Well here is a lil update if anyone is watchig this seed log. i woke up todayand it looks like it is growing so fast that 2 nodes are starting at the same time. i also noticed some new growth on some of the first nodes(pic 1)

[SeedlessOne]

Well here is a lil update if anyone is watching this seed log. i woke up todayand it looks like it is growing so fast that 2 nodes are starting at the same time. i also noticed some new growth on some of the first nodes(pic 1)

[Garden Knowm]

YEE HAW... GREAT!!!!!!!!!!!

keep up the good work!!

[SeedlessOne]

Any one got a guestament of how much longer till this lil beotch starts alternating is nodes?

[SeedlessOne]

I mean guesstament....

[Garden Knowm]

A mango started from seed had 9 symetrical nodes before it began to have alternating nodes. With vigorous growth you should have a new node every 1-3 days...

[Garden Knowm]

obviously, clones will have alternating nodes sooner...

: )

[SeedlessOne]

GK you are the great...just full of all kinds of info!! Hey you just a big fan of the Seemorebuds volumes or what? I was thinking of ordering one maybe both of them. They look like they would be good, as i love the lil trailer i watched.

[SeedlessOne]

Hey should i start another post and make it just a log? Since i guess i am done with my problems i was having? Maybe in like indoor growing?

[SeedlessOne]

Well it has been confirmed..i have atleast one male :(
check out the thread here http://boards.cannabis.com/showthread.php?t=68405

[surreyB.C.]

no you can have 1000w on your seedling just not to close is all but to be honest with ya i keep mine under flourecent lights untill they are about 6 inches or so with about 3-4 sets of well established leaves then i transplant them into pots and put under 1000w mh but i keep them a fair distance away not to burn them or shock them. good luck i hope this helps and if you have any questions ill try to get back to ya asap

[SeedlessOne]

Huh?

[Garden Knowm]

surrey... I am ready to come to BC... ? can I come up and meet you? : )

cheers-
shoot me an email [email protected]

[SeedlessOne]

Are you jacking my thread?? LOL.... hey GK if you got a sec will you check out the thread i posted in the indoor to confirm that is 100% a male and not just new leaves growing...i took one of the "balls" and opened it and it looked more like new leaves to me...

[Garden Knowm]

what happened?

[stickyinsalem]

TAKE IT OFF NOW...just reading and learning but i would say that if you havent already began to burn your plants..then you soon will