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Daily Factoid: Donā??t hold your breath.
The fat-soluble THC-9 is absorbed by
the lungs almost instantly.
Exhaling immediately after inhalation expels
most of the carcinogenic compounds.
Thankyou!
I know this all too well, but there was a massive arguement about it in the recreational forum, and a few kids dont like being told the truth, they seem to ALWAYS think they are above everyone else and know it all.
Dopeman420 is a perfect example of a little child who has no idea.
Its a Plant
04-30-2006, 07:25 PM
Yes I like how LIP tries to get the truth out on here as much as possible. He makes up for all the kids who make those "gonna do a duster" threads.
LIP for President of Pot.
Breukelen advocaat
04-30-2006, 07:35 PM
Daily Factoid: Donā??t hold your breath.
The fat-soluble THC-9 is absorbed by
the lungs almost instantly.
Exhaling immediately after inhalation expels
most of the carcinogenic compounds.
Yes, and vaporizers are good alternatives also.
1234abcd
04-30-2006, 08:28 PM
Daily Factoid: Donā??t hold your breath.
The fat-soluble THC-9 is absorbed by
the lungs almost instantly.
Exhaling immediately after inhalation expels
most of the carcinogenic compounds.
So thats where you get your source, from the "Daily Factoid" on cannabis.com homepage. Wow you really did your research!
I mean c'mon, if you smoke anything repetitively, you will get black carcinogens exposed to your lungs, although I believe marijuana to have less harsh chemicals in the smoke than cigs, and its been believed that the mj smoke doesn't not penetrate passages in the lungs as tobacco smoke does.
but like I've said before..the only way to eliminate the smoke is ...to NOT smoke..Vaporize or Eat and its way healthier than smoking IMO.
No, actually I didnt, i didnt even know it WAS a daily factoid, but it ONLY proves my point, and that i, was infact, right, even though all the kids disagreed cos they know no better.
And yes, vaps or eating is the better choice other than smoking.
And thankyou its a plant!
chaywoo
04-30-2006, 09:30 PM
I vaporize all grass now, i quit smoking, even if i am at a party and a bong is going around, i just stick near my vaporizer, and pass the bong to someone else.. of course my vaporizer is always stocked with a fat bowl, it gets much more attention than a regular bong, people just hit the bong while waiting for the vaporizer, hahaaha, but then there is a few people that just have to have the damageing feeling in there lungs because they have mentally connected the 2 together and a buzz isnt a buzz unless they have the lung suicide feeling, i feel sorry for those, all though i must say, it was an adjustment for me to go all vaporizer, and with a kik your rear end vaporizer, (AroMed) it was actually very easy.. VAPE ON!
Its a Plant
04-30-2006, 09:33 PM
Man, I need to invest in a vape.
How much do they usually run?
I know they aren't too cheap.
1234abcd
04-30-2006, 09:46 PM
Man, I need to invest in a vape.
How much do they usually run?
I know they aren't too cheap.
I just bought a volcano yesterday, and after the first session, I cleaned my bong and boxed it up. It wasn't cheap but I found a place that had them for 4bills. Vaporbros is a decent one for around 140.
But the thing is fucking rad, and to all you smokers who have vaporized before and had a so so exp. its because you need to invest in a good one..and you will get waaaay baked, and a pure high also...and another good thing about them..is you can save like an ounce of the vaped buds and cook them with butter and make some killer brownies. So with vaporizers..its kinda like getting your cake and eating it too...also while being totally healthy..so you can have a good counter argument with somebody saying marijuana is bad.
Yeah, the cheap ones will break within a week, as chaywoo sadly knows all too well.
It's gunner cost, ALOT, so its only something to get if your gunner use it regualry... But for the price, they are good and do the job, and last.
I mean, i would get one, but i wont because of the price and the fact i enjoy smoking joints and bongs... Just seems more sociable, maybe im addicted to the ACT of smoking? Well anyways, im happy for now. :)
mrpink019
04-30-2006, 10:56 PM
Wow, I had no idea. I have been holding hits in as long as possible for as long as I can remember.
Unfortunatley I have to save up money for a new car, so the vaporizer will have to wait for a few more months.
chaywoo
05-01-2006, 12:55 AM
heavy duty! i hear good news on here today.. its always nice to hear someone happy with there vaporizer, even though i disagree with the volcano in many ways, what counts it that the owner is happy... ya, and dont go buying the crap vaporizers (usually less than 200) out there, its a garanteed waste of money... and saving money for a car, i been there, but when u save for a vaporizer, might as well save for a good one, that way u can save money by bud efficiency and the vaporizer not breaking down on u in a week or a couple of months... and heavy duty! i didnt know u could still make brownies with the vaped left overs.. how does it taste? im sure it blends better coz its all brown, that is assuming it has been fully vaporized... but i sure do like hemp tea... that is serious stuff... usually i will toke all week, through the AroMed water filter, and then on the weekend, drink the "bong water" from the vaporizer and look out... 20 mins later im still increasing stone after i have finished everything... and i mean a very noticeable experience too...
chaywoo
05-01-2006, 12:57 AM
hey LIP, i think u can be converted, just give it a little bit of time....
birdgirl73
05-01-2006, 02:22 AM
Hey, LIP, do you ever provide contact info so folks can talk to you directly? I'm just checking because I was gonna tell you something about your message, but I'd rather do it off main line. Ya know?
1234abcd
05-01-2006, 03:44 AM
Hey LIP, I've been vaporizing for a couple days with my new Volcano, and I just took a couple bong rips cuz I thought I missed it, and man, I dont think Im gonna use it anymore. The volcano does the same thing, except for I dont have that hazy smoky feeling like I do now. I feel much better with my volcano..and I dont think I'll be smoking anymore unless Im out..I'll probably use my pipe or Vapor Genie or roll up a fatty J. Otherwise Im gonna blaze my volcano..I like that pure THC STONE rather this smoky one.
Hey Chaywoo, have you ever tried the volcano? It is suppost to be better than most vapes out there except the Vapezilla..I think that one might be a little better but its like 600. I found mine for 400, about the same price as yours, but man.....with the volcano, you can make the bags as big as you like, it comes with extra parts to clean, if you want to vaporize hash they sell seperate screens made from steel wool, no problem, you can vape away, and I get just as baked with my volcano as I do taking bong rips..so Im done smoking..that is how good the volcano is....you can inhale as big of rips as your lungs will take....the temp you can control from 1-9, nothing combustable, also from just 0.3 I get 2 full bags at 2 feet, which are like 4-5 rips for my big lungs, and then I stirr it up in the chamber, and I get another 2 bags that are really potent...so thats like amazing rips just outta 0.3...with my bong I can only take 1 maybe 2 rips..and its done..
Oh yeah..about the brownies....save up 28 grams of vape poo, it still has 33 percent of the thc because usually I dont vape it down to the bare brown..if you do that..then there is still 10 percent or so..Im pretty sure you never get everything without smoking it.....then what ya do..is just grind it up to dust, and make cannabutter! Then make a KILLER batch of brownies, and you can enjoy all the cannaboids you didn't get because you didn't FIRE up and bring the weed to combustable levels.
Also its easier than ever..it snaps together..everything is a breeze...I have heard of people getting a volcano after the aromed or whatever...but anyways..we both like our vaporizers and we are not smoking anymore ..so thats all that matters. Well anyways..peace
Hey Birdgirl73
[email protected] is LIPS email I believe..,
chaywoo
05-01-2006, 07:07 AM
ah yes, piece, not many things like a nice piecefull vape session, but i must inquire about having heard of someone getting a volcano after an AroMed? I never heard of such a thing, and i dont believe it, i think u inhaled too many balloons dood, once u taste the hemp tea, a new discovery is not so easlily discarded, not only that but who would trade in an accurate "product" temp detailed readout for a 1-9 selection? but i do agree, what counts is how happy is the owner, and if the owner quits smokin, when around the vaporizer, then i must say, it is a good vaporizer....
chaywoo
05-01-2006, 07:12 AM
oh hey 12345679, thanks for the brownie with vape poop tip... i will put some vape poop in some brownies for sure..! VAPE ON DOOOOOOOOOOOOD
Hey, LIP, do you ever provide contact info so folks can talk to you directly? I'm just checking because I was gonna tell you something about your message, but I'd rather do it off main line. Ya know?
[email protected]
hey LIP, i think u can be converted, just give it a little bit of time....
Indeed, i think i can, but it'll take a bit lol!
dopeman420
05-01-2006, 09:23 AM
holding in my tokes gets me more high i will never believe that it doesnt maybe u guys smoke some crappy ass chron with a low thc content
slipknotpsycho
05-01-2006, 09:59 AM
you actually don't have to hold the smoke in, i can vouch for this. i rarely ever hold in a hit, i smoke like i would a cig usually, take a hit, inhale, hold for a few seconds, exhale... and i get fuckin baked all the time... the only time i ever hold in a hit, is when it's really big, or when i'm getting down to my last bit of weed, and i want to make sure i atleast get high...
slipknotpsycho
05-01-2006, 10:01 AM
holding in my tokes gets me more high i will never believe that it doesnt maybe u guys smoke some crappy ass chron with a low thc content
actually if us not holding in our hits meant anything, it would mean our weed is better, because it's so good we don't even have to hold it in, while you're sitting there turning red in the face trying to hold the hit in to get high...
dopeman420
05-01-2006, 10:25 AM
actually if us not holding in our hits meant anything, it would mean our weed is better, because it's so good we don't even have to hold it in, while you're sitting there turning red in the face trying to hold the hit in to get high...
what im trying to say is if ur weed has a higher thc content ur lungs shouldnt absorb all the thc content upon inhalation and dude i bet my low grade is better than any of the chron uve ever smoked
slipknotpsycho
05-01-2006, 10:38 AM
what im trying to say is if ur weed has a higher thc content ur lungs shouldnt absorb all the thc content upon inhalation and dude i bet my low grade is better than any of the chron uve ever smoked
i guess lip was right about you...
dopeman420
05-01-2006, 10:50 AM
slipknot i wasnt trying to insult u in my last my post im just stating what i think actually might be true and lip is a fucking fruit cake i dont give a fuck what he says
slipknot i wasnt trying to insult u in my last my post im just stating what i think actually might be true and lip is a fucking fruit cake i dont give a fuck what he says
HaHaHA. Your still wrong, and still a dick! You call me a fool, but NO ONE else agrees, your an idiotic child, and shouldnt be smoking weed anyway, you CANT admit you were WRONG and that you DONT need to hold HITS in.
You cant stop proving to the WHOLE board that your a child.
"Fruit cake"?
Moron...
i guess lip was right about you...
Thanks man... Good to see im not the only one who thinks this kids an idiot
Breukelen advocaat
05-01-2006, 12:00 PM
Everyone's different - I think that some people need to hold it in longer.
I read once about guys in hash-producing countries that sit down with about an ounce and smoke it by constant inhaling and exhaling - they don't hold it and get completely tripped out by the time they are done.
dopeman420
05-01-2006, 12:19 PM
HaHaHA. Your still wrong, and still a dick! You call me a fool, but NO ONE else agrees, your an idiotic child, and shouldnt be smoking weed anyway, you CANT admit you were WRONG and that you DONT need to hold HITS in.
You cant stop proving to the WHOLE board that your a child.
"Fruit cake"?
Moron...
i never said u needed to hold ur chron i said it gets u more stoned and u dont even noe how old i am .im sorry i speak my mind if i think u made a ridicolous coment then ill tell u .u may have useful info for the board but i do as well im very smart and very capable of making u look like a fool just like i did with ur k2 pics i suggest u just shut up cause u proved to the whole boards that ur childish by posting fake marijuana pictures thats something a 12 year old would do.that is by far more childish than me giving my opinion, once again u look like a fool.
slipknotpsycho
05-01-2006, 12:44 PM
i never said u needed to hold ur chron i said it gets u more stoned
i don't seem to get anymore stoned by holding in the smoke, then when i don't... infact it's probably just the opposite since i can take atleast 1 more hit, in the time i would have been holding the first hit in. i'm not getting in the middle of any on-going fued the two of you seem to have, but unless you find proof from a reputable source that i'm wrong, i'm going to say holding the smoke does exactly jack shit, i mean sure there might be a bit more thc in that hit... but it would probably compare to about as much thc as in one small shred of bud (less then the size of a BB)
if you really want to know how much higher you would have gotten by holding in the hit, do this:
recruit a friend, and get some weed. now get a tube or something, like a toilet paper/paper towel roll. have him smoke the weed, but instead of holding the hit, have him exhale all the smoke into the tube as you're taking in the smoke.... see how many hits it takes you to get high... i already know how well this works, since one time me and my bro were low on weed, him being headstrong, decided he was going to smoke the weed, and blow the smoke too me through a tube... he got high as hell, i didn't even catch a buzz AT ALL (10+ hits)
dopeman420
05-01-2006, 12:49 PM
i honestly believe it does get u more high i have a really high tollerance and i have to hold my tokes if u believe it doesnt thats cool as long as we all get high it doesnt even matter
1234abcd
05-01-2006, 01:07 PM
holy shit..all everybody does is argue about how high they get and how long they hold it in , etc. Who the fuck cares? All your highs dont affect mine.
i honestly believe it does get u more high i have a really high tollerance and i have to hold my tokes if u believe it doesnt thats cool as long as we all get high it doesnt even matter
AT LAST! Exactly, it doesnt matter, the point of the game is to get high, and if you do, your onto a winner!
killacamfarillafam
05-01-2006, 01:38 PM
Yea I think holding your toke is one of those things from the 70s that our generation needs to change. In fact, medicinal users are taught a specific smoking method where you cycle your exhale in order to maximize THC absorbtion. It's claimed that the faster the smoke travels and coats your lungs the better it will be absorbed, so they are told to exhale fast in a cyclic fashon in short bursts.
chisme
05-01-2006, 04:39 PM
haahahah dopeman fucking get a life """yeah i got beter weed then all you lot" funny how u can tell seeing as youve never seen our weeed let alone toked it u fucking loser.
how many dickhead do u think we've had come here syaing shit liek "oh blah blha i got the best weed."........OK THEN HOWS THIS DOPEMAN I BET YOUR WEEDS SHIT I BET ITS DIRTY BROWN CRUMBLY DRY ASS SOPAY SMELLING SHIT JUST THE RIGHT MIX FOR A COCK LIKE YOU.
chaywoo
05-01-2006, 06:21 PM
sounds serious, but i say hold in the vape hits as long as possible for best results... and i dont smoke anymore, so i dont have those toxic worries anymore
haahahah dopeman fucking get a life """yeah i got beter weed then all you lot" funny how u can tell seeing as youve never seen our weeed let alone toked it u fucking loser.
how many dickhead do u think we've had come here syaing shit liek "oh blah blha i got the best weed."........OK THEN HOWS THIS DOPEMAN I BET YOUR WEEDS SHIT I BET ITS DIRTY BROWN CRUMBLY DRY ASS SOPAY SMELLING SHIT JUST THE RIGHT MIX FOR A COCK LIKE YOU.
Lol, chisme rules!
Sinsemilla Jones
05-01-2006, 11:42 PM
But I usually hold the smoke till it's gone.
What can't be debated is that the quicker you exhale, the bigger the smell and sight of the smoke, which makes public use much more conspicuous.
:pimp:
dopeman420
05-02-2006, 12:03 AM
chisme dont make me laugh brown weed doesnt even sell in my area i get chronic ass buds im sure other ppl do to but they gotta pay an arm and a leg for it i just posted some pics in the pictures section look at my low mids it probly kicks the shit out of any bud uve seen or smoked in ur life . ill be waiting for some pictures of ur bunk ass chron .
chaywoo
05-02-2006, 01:45 AM
hahahaah, hey dope man, u sound pretty confident in the quality of your grass, and that u pay minimum dollar for it... sounds like a perfect oportunity to sell and make some nice money... i think u should send me a couple big buds to run through my vaporizer, and i will confirm or deny the quality of your buds on this web site... i think that sounds like a great idea...
WaKeNvAp
05-02-2006, 07:32 AM
sounds serious, but i say hold in the vape hits as long as possible for best results... and i dont smoke anymore, so i dont have those toxic worries anymore
straight up, i smoke before i vap, the vap high is more intense, but for me, dont last as long as say a bong rip, but im not as high off the bong but the length of the high is much longer than the vap. so i mix it up. but i hold the vapor hit in, and it seems to get me higher.
yo lip, i happen to one of those people who dont hold thier hits in because it dosnt work! for me. i thought the same thing about vaporizers, but if you get one, dont stop smokin, do both and you will get a high that is....oh wait....ah man.....i am sooo high right now..........i have no ideaOHYEAH! You'll be high like me!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
all that talk about a vap and a bong, i just had 2 :dance:
chaywoo
05-02-2006, 08:12 AM
hey wake! wake up! u just need a better vaporizer, doooooood... my woman can be feeding baby while we watch a movie and i sip on the vaporizer without stinking up the place and making my woman and child gag in smoke, and no contact high either.. i used to smoke bongs outside, now, no more outside, just sweet vapors inside, and my mouth doesnt wreek like an ash tray, my fingers are not burned and i dont have any resin i cant get off of them either, nor am i hanking my lungs and buzz away, my lungs still have access to there full capacity, and my clothes dont stink from spilling the bong or bubler on them, my throat feels cool and clean, but my mouth is still dry,... even when i go to the neighbors, i dont smoke, the other day there was some contributions to the vaporizer and we had 3 different kind of buds in there, and what a treat.... it is funny because if i get enough contributions from people who want to try the vaporizer, then i will have enough in the bowl to last me a couple of days! but i always have a supply on hand just incase if there are no contributions coz everyone is out except me...
firstTimeGrow
05-02-2006, 07:37 PM
i personally would tend to agree with LIP just because he seems like he knows what he's talkin about, but just for my peace of mind does anyone have a link showing actually factual evidence that THC is absorbed instantly? And what about the other cannabinoids, though not as important as the d9thc, do they absorb quickly?
also i enjoy holding hits because it extends the smoking process, which i love, plus i believe it relaxes my body, like meditating, when i regulate my breathing, slow in... hold.... slow out... u know? any evidence to that? just my two cents im not arguin with anybody just lookin for teh facts ;)
WaKeNvAp
05-02-2006, 09:45 PM
hey wake! wake up! u just need a better vaporizer, doooooood... my woman can be feeding baby while we watch a movie and i sip on the vaporizer without stinking up the place and making my woman and child gag in smoke, and no contact high either.. i used to smoke bongs outside, now, no more outside, just sweet vapors inside, and my mouth doesnt wreek like an ash tray, my fingers are not burned and i dont have any resin i cant get off of them either, nor am i hanking my lungs and buzz away, my lungs still have access to there full capacity, and my clothes dont stink from spilling the bong or bubler on them, my throat feels cool and clean, but my mouth is still dry,... even when i go to the neighbors, i dont smoke, the other day there was some contributions to the vaporizer and we had 3 different kind of buds in there, and what a treat.... it is funny because if i get enough contributions from people who want to try the vaporizer, then i will have enough in the bowl to last me a couple of days! but i always have a supply on hand just incase if there are no contributions coz everyone is out except me...
yeah i love free bud, but as reagard to my vaporizer, i have hit off of every vap that i have came across, and mine hits the best. a buddy of mine built it for me and i wouldnt ever think of another vap i would trade for mine. it is basically a vapor brothers version, but withough any of the materials that the vap bros comes with(instead of a box, it's a glass bottle which sits flush with the table floor or whatever flat surface you place it on, but i had to buy the vap bro whip) He also has other plans and other vaps, you all will see them soon i hope. i cant give you any other details other than i vaped right in front of a cop, and he had no idea what was happening(right in front of him, like 3 1/2 away from his face!)
I enjoy the taste of burnt herb as much as i enjoy vap, so the things that bother you dont bother me. but im glad other people are getting so much higher with vaps. vap on bro:thumbsup:
p.s. the reason why i dont stay high as long with the vapor is(my theory and my body) when i vapor, im so much higher than when i smoke, but because its pure thc, i find it fades faster but the high is much more intense. the only other comparison is coke and crack rocks(even though never tryed, but the similarity is the same) high.
chaywoo
05-03-2006, 04:57 AM
hey wake, i see where u come from, my brother still likes to smoke as well, and he has toked from the AroMed, he said this was the first vaporizer that he could feel the individual hits come on in the head, and as it was my first experience of that sort as well... nevertheless, im ok with all smokers choice to smoke, afterall, life is full of decisions that ultamitaly takes us to the sum of our decisions, some good, some not so good, who am i to judge? i havent made every wise decision, infact, for some reason, i have made many bad ones... except the AroMed, but who knows, maybe someday if i want to quit, the AroMed makes it so much more enjoyable that it will be that much more difficult... uhoh, i think im seeing the light come on, ya, in my head, and also, on the AroMed, coz im soothing myself with it right nowwwwwwwwwwww..... no harshhhhh feeeeeeeL.. but then again, it was a good desicion, financially, because it will pay for itself and then profit starts, and we all know the facts about carbon monoxide to the body how it is a poisen... so in those ways its a good decision, but in the end, even vaporizing hemp, may not have been the best decision either, but it sure seems like a good thing for the moment...
IanCurtisWishlist
05-03-2006, 05:40 AM
this medical cannabis lounge ( a quite popular one) i go to sometimes has like 2 or 3 volcano vaporizors. It's such a great way to get high... I love to fill up the bag full of cannabis vapors and inhale the whole thing at once. It's a high that very much resembles hashish..horray for vaporizors!!
beachguy in thongs
05-03-2006, 08:16 AM
That's why I use the Fulton Puff-Procedure.
edit: everyone's still trying to push vaporizer's after the THC transfer-rate has been shown to be less than 1/3 that of the top three devices?
chaywoo
05-03-2006, 09:12 AM
hey beach! dont forget to observe the vaporizers used in that test were all crap, i believe they even used the bc vaporizer (wtf) ... lets get those same clowns to hit the AroMed, I bet u the individual couldnt even finish a bowl in one setting!... so therefore, the 1/3 THC transfer rate is an inacurate observation, either there study was underfunded, or they themselves were going through the vaporizing learning curve about WHAT NOT TO BUY... dont forget to quote the rest of the report so we can all see the truth behind the details... LIKE WHICH VAPORIZERS WERE USED IN THE TEST... VAPE ON DOOOOOOOOOOOOD!
chaywoo
05-03-2006, 09:13 AM
I think Ian has made a positive accurate finding, i vote for Ian to head the next THC transfer rate study...
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