Yellow Spot

[SeedlessOne]

What is this little yellow spot on the first set of leaves....also little grow over the last 3 days...seed from 4/20

[KHAN]

not using any ferty are you?

[SeedlessOne]

Super Thrive and h20....

[LIP]

Well how about, STOP!

You only fert after the first 3 weeks...

You need to read before you grow, otherwise your gunner kill your plants...

GEt reading the grow faqs

[SeedlessOne]

Ive seen plenty of people use super thrive throughout the entire time...have i been told wrong??

[The Grim Reefer]

How much superthrive are you using?

I use it throughout my entire grow.

[SeedlessOne]

1/4 tsp per gallon..ok i thought you could use it...so i guess i have done some research...thanks for your help...i need to figure that spot out and why the stopped growth

[Opie Yutts]

There is no problem using superthrive for sprouting and cloning. In fact, you should use it. It aids in eliminating stress from first starting out or transplanting. It has vitamain B1 and some other things proven to help in this area. However I would not use as much as the directions call for, at least in the beginning. I use 2 or 3 drops per gallon of PH adjusted water. I am sure some will disagree with me, but I am not only going by what the consenses seems to be, but by what my own experiences have taught me.

Do not worry a bit if the lowest leaves turn yellow and die. This is completely normal when a plant is just starting out. It is actually feeding off itself, using the least important parts. I grow hydro, but it seems like at least half of my clones do this for the first couple of weeks, but turn out just fine.

As long as new growth keeps coming out, and it is healthy-looking and stays that way, you don't have a problem.

[The Grim Reefer]

1/4 is a little too much, that's what I was using as well but I found that it can cause some interesting changes in the leaves if you use too much.

Try to keep it anywhere from 1 to 3 drops per gallon. <3

[SeedlessOne]

I still think it is way to small for 9 days....what could be the problem...please help....

[Opie Yutts]

Cold temps, not enough light, too much water, too little water, no air flow (dank-musty-moldy), are all causes of slow growth. Pick the most likely and start there, that is if you have ruled out a nutrient problem. If you want to be sure on the nutrients, flush it as many times as you can stand with PH adjusted water and let it nearly dry out, then start adding a tiny bit of superthrive to the water. Your picture looks like you may be using soil which in my book is a big no-no, but the concept would be the same for hydro. If you want, hydro can be literally as easy as dirt, with 50 to 100 percent additional yield. Why not go hydro, please call today, operators are standing by.

I can't really see anything for scale, but it does look much smaller than mine would be at 9 days. But I go hydro and HID lights, which makes a huge difference. It's the only real way in my opinion, unless you use a shitload of expensive flouros. As far as I know, it looks just slightly smaller than it should for growing in dirt. If you just have a couple of weak flouros on it, you can pretty much expect it to have a growth rate next to hybernation, especially if they are far away. They should be nearly touching and can be touching if they have a plastic shield over the bulb.

[The Grim Reefer]

100% additional yield with hydro? I don't know about that.. you're basically telling me my plant would be a guaranteed 1/4-1/2 size bigger.

Not only that, but from what I've read I always thought yield was mostly determined by genetics and determined secondarily by it's environment.

<3

Please correct me if I'm wrong!

[Opie Yutts]

I'm sure others have different experiences, but mine have taught me that soil is a waste of time compared to the yield you could get with the same effort growing in hydro. I have never had much luck in soil. Seems like too many things can go wrong. With hydro, just make sure the PH is adjusted and mix the nutrients according to the directions. Nothing can go wrong, at least as far as nutrients and fertilizer are concerned. No guessing, like I always was when I tried to figure out how much and when to fertalize my dirt.

And yes, you could easily expect your plant to be at least 1/4 size "bigger" than if it was in soil. Twice as big is more like it though. Bigger, faster growing, healthier looking overall, and most importantly higher yield. I spent years messing about with soil growing, then I started reading up on hydro. I thought many of the claims seemed unlikely, but I thought I would try a little hydro on a small (and inexpensive) scale. I set up a cheapo DWC and holy crap, I was blown away. I don't remember what strain I was growing, but I was used to the fan leaves being about as big as my hand. After switching to hydro they were about as big as my head (no jokes here, my head's average size for a 6 foot guy).

I am not a botanist, but consider that with hydro plants don't expend any effort searching for the things they need. Oxygen, nutrients, and water are all supplied directly to the roots. The plants can concentrate their efforts on growing the good stuff above ground. The smokables.

Just my opinion, but it happens to be backed up with a great many experiences.

And if you do switch, don't try and do all organic. You can get good results, but it takes more effort and fiddling. Just buy what works and blast your plants with chemicals. They love it. If you're worried about smoking chemicals, you can feed them only water the last two weeks. Please come over to our side.

[The Grim Reefer]

What's the dollar range on a 4-6 plant hydro setup?

You have me curious now, I may do a bit more reading/loitering in the hydro forum.

<3

[Opie Yutts]

Oh yeah, and get this: I keep my mother plants in soil because I want them to grow slow and small. And it works.

[Opie Yutts]

Oh yeah, and get this:
I grow my mother plants in soil because I want them to grow slow and small. And it works.

[Opie Yutts]

Sorry about the double post. I was told to try again because the server was to busy. I just did what I was told.

[Opie Yutts]

I bought a used Emily's Garden and upgraded it a little and the whole thing cost about $60. Later, I made two different home made versions of the same thing for about $25 each. The air pump is the most expensive part. These set-ups held 6 plants. You could probably make something for 1 plant for under $15, that would give you a much higher yield, maybe 20 to 100 percent, than if you grew the same plant in dirt.

You can also buy set-ups that cost thousands, and everything in between.