Can someone look at these pictures and offer advice?

[Stickyplant]

The plant only gets Alaskan Fish with water every other day.

Once every other week since starting to flower, it has gotten bone meal and garden lime.

Also once every few weeks, a 1/4 inch or less of new soil on top.

Tips are brown, leaves are curling under, some lower fan leaves look like a balloon with the air let out, some brown spotting on leaves.

Just finished it's 6th week of flowering.

Why are the leaves doing this now?

Temp steady, Humidity same as always been, perfect hepa filtered air.

Nothing has changed, except Sticky (the plant...lol)

This is one plant.

Any advice?
Thanks

[Kush Over]

The calyxes look like they're very swollen on the second picture.

What strain is it?

[Stickyplant]

I have no idea, bag seed.

Any idea why the tips are browning and curling under...etc?

[cptweedmanguy]

Hey, dont even worry about it guy..... during the last weeks of flowering the plant begins to naturally use up all it's nitrogen therefor the unhealthy looking fan leaves. Some strains foliage will even turn a bright yellow or even a crazy purple color basically mimicing the fall leave change. So all in all dont worry about it guy.:rasta:

Actually the plants are looking nice. I would stop feeding them soon actually and let that nitrogen get used up.

Peace,
Cptweedmanguy

[Stickyplant]

Thanks... I started to worry, I have tried very hard to take good care of her.

Whew, load off my mind, thanks!

[LIP]

It just means the pants maturing, no worries.

Lookin good tho

[Stickyplant]

cptweedmanguy,

Given that it has been 6 weeks, and the buds are barely BARELY starting to turn, the trichs are all still clear...

Buds still growning in size...

When would you stop the Alaskan fish?

Feel free to answer this anyone else as well.

[cptweedmanguy]

It depends if your strain is more sativa or indica dominant, or it could be mixed. Personally it looks to me like its a mix, but anyways by the look of the picture it looks more sativa dominant. Maybe stop giveing it nutes in a week or so. Then procede with another week or so(I would do 2 weeks with sativa dominant strains) of good flushing to get rid of all that nasty shit built up.

Peace,
Cptweedmanguy

[Stickyplant]

Thanks a ton,

This is my very first grow, so I have been trying to keep it organic.

This was a bag seed, so I have no idea what strain it is... I am glad you can tell, I have been wondering.

I wil start flushing it in 2 weeks, then keep my eyes on the trichs.

Thanks again

[Kush Over]

Sativa dominant with a considerably shorter flowering period it seems. An inherent trait from the Indica portion of the gene pool?

By the looks of the fan leaves that still remain, you've got alittle more time before the plant starts depleting the nitrogen from the fan leaves. A little more time as in up to a month and probably then some. You say that the calyxes are still swelling, which is an indication it's very close to the end of it's life cycle. I wouldn't worry about it, though. Everything's going as it should.

She's looking great. Looks like a job well done.

[Stickyplant]

Thank you Kush,

This thing is now about 4 feet tall and has 5 tops.

It is still growing it seems and has taken a lot longer to mature than most of what I read on here. I figured this thing would be mature a lot quicker than it actually took.

I believe it was between 12-15 weeks old and 3 feet tall before I got alternating nodes.

Go figure.

But thanks again for the info!

[Kush Over]

Ah, well. Glad I could help!

Typically the flowering times they post on seed bank websites [ or even unknown varieties ] are for plants of specific heights or mass. Your plant, which has five tops, will take longer to flower than a plant that wasn't topped or FIM'd. Plus, she's a little monster at that fout feet!

The slower flowering is probably due to the fact that it must divide nutrients more thinly between the branches. So a plant with a single 'true' top would take significantly less time to flower than a multi-topped cannabis plant of the same height. This is all right, though, as the multiple tops will provide up to two ounces more than an untopped one.

[Stickyplant]

I have hopes to try this by the end of summer... so let's hope it finishes budding by then...lol

The top bud runs are about 12-13 inches tall, and each top buds down about 36".

The buds at the top are just a bit smaller around than a soda can.

When we started we hoped to get anywhere between a QP & a HP.

We will see, I read I am going to lose a lot during drying/curing. This is just for fun too, so we will see where it ends up.

[Garden Knowm]

Sticky I agrre withe the crew.. your plant looks fine.. for week 6 of flowering..
Are you using fluorescents?

Although she is a sativa dominant strain she does look a bit stretched out.. Other than that you have done a great job... she looks AWESOME

: )

[Stickyplant]

Hey Garden Knowm,

Thanks!... yes she stretched a bit. I tried to stop that, but I couldn't.

I actually purposely stretched her at the beginning so that I could top it, then top those tops, have 6 tops, and tie them all down even... but have each top out over the edge of the pot it is in. It worked for all but 1 top, and the plant stretched a bit even after I kept the lights only about an inch from the tops. But one grows faster than the other...you move lights before you should for half the tops, so they stretch to catch up.

You live and learn I guess...lol

Also, yes. I am using 5 double bulb fluorescents and 2 CFLs. About 600 watts worth and around 37,000 luminants. The air is exchanged in the whole place 3 times an hour.

It has been fun, and I have learned a lot. I have over 80 pictures of every stage of flowering, and some before she flowered, and when she was a pup.

I may start a gallery or grow log once I know if it ends well or not...lol Kind of a beginners trial and error. I have documented everything, even my failed clones.

Everyone has been great here!

[postmandave]

good job sticky plant my very first grow was done with fluresent tubes they do the job ok if you have the right light spectrums red for flower blue for veg or mixed for the full grow but looking real good anyweay and the first grow is a real learning curve it can be a good grow or a bad grow but you still learn more dont do the do do lol if you get my drift lol (sounds funny that lol) the postman.

[Jdog7000]

That discoloring is probably from over watering. I had the same problem when they stopped drinking so much and began to ripen.I was watering the same amount when I should have only watered every 3-4 days.

[daima]

The plant only gets Alaskan Fish with water every other day.

Once every other week since starting to flower, it has gotten bone meal and garden lime.

Also once every few weeks, a 1/4 inch or less of new soil on top.

Tips are brown, leaves are curling under, some lower fan leaves look like a balloon with the air let out, some brown spotting on leaves.

Just finished it's 6th week of flowering.

Why are the leaves doing this now?

Temp steady, Humidity same as always been, perfect hepa filtered air.

Nothing has changed, except Sticky (the plant...lol)

This is one plant.

Any advice?
Thanks

Once your hairs start to turn brown you shouldnt give them any fertilizer at all.
The spots and the browness are due to overwatering(spots) and too much fertlizer(burnt leaf tips/slow growth)
Applying new top soils after the 3 week of flowering is not necessary.
When my plants start to flower i use nothing but water for the first 2.5 weeks of flowering, and then i use just one application of a blooming solution.
dai*ma

[Zandor]

From what I read I guess Nobody noticed the ONLY nutrient the plant is getting is fish shit and thatâ??s what 50-1-1 or something like that. It's almost pure nitrogen.

Who here thinks that's right?

Come on show of hands?

[Krogith]

p2O5 and K2O for fucking THC how it going make any =( poor baby:smokin: and way less nitro cause thats not needed now prob why your burning some leaf Bone meal Nitro WTF thats for Growing now your budding needs others

[Stickyplant]

postmandave :
Thanks! I know exactly what you mean!

Jdog7000:
Thanks! I will cut back to watering every 3rd day... you are probably right!

daima:
I will cut back on the fert, but I am only using the fish emulsion so I do not think the brown tips is over fert, do you? I am not sure as again, this is grow one for me... so if a "5" for nitrogen is hurting her now, I will stop.

Zandor:
The Alaskan Fish Emulsion I use is only 5-1-1 not 50-1-1 Thanks!

Krogith:
I dont really understand your post... in that I just dont understand what you were saying. I did understand part of it... which is why would I use the bone meal.

Bone meal has the extra phosphate that the fish emulsion lacks. (12) and the stuff I have is organic. The nitro in Bone meal is only 6, so again, I am not sure that is enough to burn the plant. But from everything I read, the plant needs (or at least should get) the extra phosphate during flowering.


Thanks for all the replies... I think I am going to cut all nutes and just feed water now, and even cut that back to every 3 days. This was great, I have gotten a lot of great advice here, and some good things to think about trying.

[notanotherteensmoker]

no offense, you're really polite, but if it's legal to grow where you live, why don't you just ask your friendly neighborhood nursery or garden center for advice?

[Stickyplant]

No offense taken.
I am not able to get out much for personal reasons.
AND, who better to get advice from than a network of people who do this all the time? Much better than Sven the cabbage grower right?...lol

[busteruk7]

i wish i could goto my nursery and ask advice sometimes especially when buying something new ya cant just ask will this be ok for ganja plants
cheers all :)

[Zandor]

I was being facetious; but my point was it's almost pure N and not a balanced NPK nutrient and nobody noticed that.

Organic or not you are still missing the balance of a full NPK nutrient. There are many great organic nutrients that can make up the full NPK cycle the plant need to produce a true quality product.

I was aiming my point to some others who posted more then you. No offence meant.

[Garden Knowm]

the plant is fine...
the only problem with it is that it is a sativa.....

LOL

It does not always matter how you participate in her orgasm... as long as she has one..

[Stickyplant]

Zandor... after looking at your posts and seeing that you were a moderator... I felt like an idiot after correcting the 50 to 5. I, at that point, realized what you were doing...lol

I wanted to crawl under a rock after my post...lol

For my next trick... er I mean grow... I will have to find something to bring up the Potash. Between The fish, bone, and what I go and find for K, I think I can make a nice organic NPK mix! Thanks for pointing that out though... I didnt even think about it being out of balance.

Garden Knowm:
Thank you!, again! Is there somewhere I can read up on the normal life cycle of a sativa dominant strain? That is probably the one thing I didnt do... that I should have done. If I had known it was sativa (because I didnt until I started this thread...lol) I obviously need to read up on it so that I know what to expect normally, I may have posted less questions about it had I done my due diligence.


Thanks again everyone. I feel like I am walking with giants a bit here as some of you have obviously been around for years! She just started having a couple of her lower buds start to really have their pistils turn. I checked those bud's trichs, and they are still very clear. The tops are still only white pistils and clear (trichs). So I dont think she is close yet.

When I take more pictures of her today or tomorrow, I will be sure to get those lower buds and post a picture or two.

[Jdog7000]

This is very important if you want good bud. You need to go buy some sea bird and bat guano to feed your plants a few times before you flush. It will help the yield,potency and flavor. If you don't you will most likely be disapointed. Soma uses sea bird and bat guano and he's in Amsterdam so I'm sure it is available. I use Pure blend pro bloom for soil and an additive called Budswell. But the Pure Blend Pro is enough. It is high in Phosphate.
Flowers need this. They won't bloom to there potential if you feed them all Nitrogen. It's good you caught this now while there is time. I didn't even notice that until Zandor said it.

[Zandor]

Well thanks sticky I should have said it in a nicer way I guess....my bad.

Hey we are here to help you and that is what is important.

We even have an Organic section now too.

[Stickyplant]

Here are some of the bud pics since they started turning I promised to post.

[busteruk7]

they are not looking too bad them
cheers all :)

[Stickyplant]

Thanks!