SALVIA IS DRIVING PEOPLE MAD!

[rollinKansas]

SALVIA IS FUCKED UP, IT IS MAKING PEOPLE GO CRAZY, AND LITTERALLY KILL THEMSELVES! in Delaware a kid had commited suicide and wrote in his suicide note that he had been using salvia and it had really opened his mind. "How can I go on living after I learned the secrets of life," he wrote. "It took me 17 years, but I finally figured it out. I can't tell you that here because that kind of information can cause chaos." THATS SOME FREAKY SHIT ESPECIALLY IF YOU HAVE TRIED IT!! he really thought he knew the meaning to life and had killed him self. I HIGHLY SUGGEST LOOKING THIS STORY UP ON THE INET - PUT IN SALVIA SUICIDE!

my personal recommendation: dont try it. its a mind fuck and a half and you wont be the same. and its not at surprising about what that kid had done, you realise things about this life and yourself tht you never imagined!

I WOULDNT BE TO SURPRISED OR SADDENED IF THIS STUFF IS ILLEGAL SOON!

[SomeGuy]

how many lives are lost to alcohol?

[rollinKansas]

LIVES LOST TO ALCOHOL IS NO WHERE NEAR THE POINT, PLEASE FOCUS ON THE POINT

[rollinKansas]

its not about dying bc of irresponsibility, please dont waste this forum's time on that point, we all know the facts about that. please let THAT REST A WHILE.

focus on what salvia is and if you have tried it what it does and how amazing/freaky it is that a kid may/may not have, saw the meaning of life, and was willing to take his own over what he had truley believed after his expiriece...

[rollinKansas]

(BUT NOWHERE NEAR SURPRISING) < if you have tried a potent extract you know what imean

[slipknotpsycho]

no, what i wonder, is if he really did figure out the secrets to life when he was donig salvia. i have done salvia, and if anything is powerful enough to make you go to some parralell plain or some freaky shit like that, salvia is def. strong enough to do some weird as shit like that...

i'm not saying i think what he's saying really is true, i'm just saying, i wouldn't be suprised if somehow it was scientificly proved he was right....

either way i can def. see this shit getting illegalized in the us, a whole wave of [negative] salvia has been going on throughout the media for awhile now.... i also somehow see the govt. trying to say if salvia is that strong and that capable of stuff, and it's natural then how come marijuana can't be just as powerful...

[CocaCola]

Salvia should be made illegal. So that idiots won't have access to it... and the ones who are actually prepared for the experience could grow it and treat it themselves and keep it to themselves.

Oh adn how in the motherfuck can you tell if HE'S the crazy one? Fucking idiots and you're fucked mental state.

[thepope]

Ive done salvia multiple times, awesome experiences everytime. The guy who killed himself was an idiot, end of story. Its sad if salvia is made illegal, although i can see why, uneducated people + false advertising= Bad news.

[rollinKansas]

I let probably 8 people try it, and not one person would have done it again, in fact i would consider it rare for a person to actually recreationally enjoy it. It is amazing that the extracts can fuck ur mind so bad, but there is no practical use for it. I think as salvia gains popularity, we'll see a lot more cases like the one in delaware. Anyone who has had a full blown alternate reality trip off of an extract would probably admit just how fuckin mind blowing it is. I tried it a few times and after i had my hardest trip, i decided to never do it again...that shit really can change you even if you are prepared for it.

[graph]

SALVIA IS FUCKED UP, IT IS MAKING PEOPLE GO CRAZY, AND LITTERALLY KILL THEMSELVES! in Delaware a kid had commited suicide and wrote in his suicide note that he had been using salvia and it had really opened his mind. "How can I go on living after I learned the secrets of life," he wrote. "It took me 17 years, but I finally figured it out. I can't tell you that here because that kind of information can cause chaos." THATS SOME FREAKY SHIT ESPECIALLY IF YOU HAVE TRIED IT!! he really thought he knew the meaning to life and had killed him self. I HIGHLY SUGGEST LOOKING THIS STORY UP ON THE INET - PUT IN SALVIA SUICIDE!

my personal recommendation: dont try it. its a mind fuck and a half and you wont be the same. and its not at surprising about what that kid had done, you realise things about this life and yourself tht you never imagined!

I WOULDNT BE TO SURPRISED OR SADDENED IF THIS STUFF IS ILLEGAL SOON!

One kid kills himself on salvia, and you jump on the bandwagon to ban it? Alright, let's step back and address the situation a bit. People have done stupid thinks while under the influence of cannabis, too. Yeah, salvia can be a trip alright, but so can (reportedly) a few hours of sensory deprivation.

He was 17. Kids like attention. He found his egress, and chose to blame an outside source for his problems. The "Heaven's Gate" cult also thought they knew the meaning of life, and found the same fate as that kid through following their beliefs.

So your answer is to ban a mind-altering drug because it has caused a few people to do stupid things? Don't forget, marijuana was said to make "the darks think they were as good as white folk". Sure, maybe more attention should be paid to salvia, maybe the public should be more aware of its effects. However, I don't think prohibition is the answer, and I would imagine you hold similar views about similar plants.

[thepope]

I let probably 8 people try it, and not one person would have done it again, in fact i would consider it rare for a person to actually recreationally enjoy it. It is amazing that the extracts can fuck ur mind so bad, but there is no practical use for it. I think as salvia gains popularity, we'll see a lot more cases like the one in delaware. Anyone who has had a full blown alternate reality trip off of an extract would probably admit just how fuckin mind blowing it is. I tried it a few times and after i had my hardest trip, i decided to never do it again...that shit really can change you even if you are prepared for it.


That is true, very few people will want to do it again. The more I do it, the more i remember and can describe the "trip", ive learned not to fear and and push my mind even further down the "rabbit hole". Ive noticed music makes it soo much better too.



I think as salvia gains popularity, we'll see a lot more cases like the one in delaware.

Why do you think this? While your tripping, its way to hard to try to do something planned out, so killing yourself or the like is out of the question, and if you did, it was premeditated and a decision that was made before tripping. Ever seen that vid of a guy trying to make a PB&J sandwich while on salvia? Yea, he only managed to open the top of 1 jar. Do you think finding the anwer to life would make you killyourself? I mean, if you know the answer( which i dont believe for a second) then youde be famous/rich. Apparently it made enough sense to make this guy kill himself. If you knew the answer, why fear chaos? Your world is gonna end, why does it matter if everyone elses does too? Eh, like i said, the kid im sure decided to killhimself before hand, regardless of the salvia. Its an excuse for a weak person.

[slipknotpsycho]

I think as salvia gains popularity, we'll see a lot more cases like the one in delaware.

of course you will, but that doesn't really mean anything, that's only cuz more and more people are going to try it cuz more and more people are going to hear about it... that's comparable to watching the rise of a child actor, someone was on a local tv show, that was from the local town, they get talked about some, then as they get more and more famous, you are more and more likely to hear someone mention his name.... i think i'm with graph, more people need to know about what it is, and what it does, but i don't think illegalization is the answer... you see what happened to everything else that was illegalized, it still gets used/done anyways... if people want it, they will get it. if more people know of it's effects, and it's publicly anounced or something, so that it's basicly in everyone's face, those who aren't prepared for what it brings, wont' try it, atleast not as many...

[rollinKansas]

To be fair, i've thaught salvia should be illigal since i tried it. Illigalization isnt going to extinct the drug, way less morons will be able to order as much as they want off the internet, but it will still be obtainable,(like weed or any other illigal drug). And i don't think he killed himself on salvia, i think he imagined something while on it and came out of the trip convinced it was real. Who's to say he didn't think he was talkin to god and givin some weird information. He may have been a moron but thats unfounded. Salvia trips are very intense, and from what i've seen adn expierenced it will open pandora's box. Nobody can possibly imagine how hard a good extract trip is untill they've tried it.

[WaKeNvAp]

...''life always finds it's way...'' ...''druggies always find thier drugs...'' I dont think making it illegal will help. Remember the prohibition of cannabis? The one that, last time i checked, is still going on? Cannabis is the most used recreational drug known to man. Partly due to the fact that it is "cool" making sumthing illegal wont solve the problem everytime. i've done salvia, not my main cup. Coca leaves arent illegal in sum parts of south america (or all parts, feel free to correct me on this issue if you are an expert in this area.) but cocane is. salvia leaves are less potent. why not have simillar laws enplaced for salvia?
consider this as well, genesis informs us that all plants and animals were put here for men. put a restriction on all salvia products, and there will be problems, like the media blowing salvia up to be "the new dope that sends its users to hell" trust me, more people would use salvia if it was illegal. But Salvia is such a powerfull mind amplifier, that when a person uses salvia for the first time they say ''i cant believe this is legal'' anything that arises this much power has to be regulated, but not made illegal.

[Vinny87]

lmfao, I am ROLLING...that kid...

[Eshelmen]

he had a weak mind.. thats all...

[CocaCola]

That's why I warn idiots about this drug... don't use it... PEOPLE WHOEVER YOU ARE, DON'T USE SALVIA BECAUSE YOU'RE MIND ISN'T PREPARED FOR IT!

[Eshelmen]

dude chill salvia wasnt so bad imo... i think i tripped out more on my first time with marijuana then on 20x

but then again i tried 10x for my first ever salvia expierence and it didnt do much ...

then last week 20 x and i was trippin balls but in a good way...

it helped me but twas lame..

btw Up with the sativa herb down with the salvia herb

Do you feel it???
muahaha

[CocaCola]

No, just don't use it ever... if you think you're mentally prepared for this then you're not don't use don't use...






*Goes to smoke some Salv... BUUUD*

[slipknotpsycho]

To be fair, i've thaught salvia should be illigal since i tried it. Illigalization isnt going to extinct the drug, way less morons will be able to order as much as they want off the internet, but it will still be obtainable,(like weed or any other illigal drug). And i don't think he killed himself on salvia, i think he imagined something while on it and came out of the trip convinced it was real. Who's to say he didn't think he was talkin to god and givin some weird information. He may have been a moron but thats unfounded. Salvia trips are very intense, and from what i've seen adn expierenced it will open pandora's box. Nobody can possibly imagine how hard a good extract trip is untill they've tried it.
wasn't it you, back in the day that wanted to trick someone into doing 20x on a gravity bong? cuz if it was, your views on it sure seemed to have change...

i don't see anything wrong with salvia. the way i used it when i had mine, was a gram lasted me well over a month. the setting would just be perfect and i'd be like "i want to smoke salvia" and i'd do it, and the trip would be over and that was it... and it wasn't everyday either.... i think salvia is far too powerful of a drug to be doing everyday...

i think the problem right now is the fact that everyone see's this and that it's legal, and 'omg it fucks you up' instead of the experience you get from it... as long as they're focusing on salvia being a drug to 'get fucked up on', there's always going to be idiots, and very possibly once inawhile one of those idiot will have mental problems and off himself, which i'd like to refer to George Carlin and just say "Natural Selection."

[Polymirize]

its not about dying bc of irresponsibility

Isn't it? Blaming a drug, a plant, for a decision that this person made of his own will. Sounds like he's not very responsible at all. And maybe that's the problem.

Do the drug, accept the consequences.

The double-reflection of drug usage:

1. Deciding what drugs to take.
2. Living in the world, having done the drugs you have, having seen the things you've seen...

[slipknotpsycho]

hey poly you're one post away from 420.... lol ima go smoke now..

[LIP]

I dont think its dangerous. I think its waste of money, i know loads of ppl get a trip, but i got nothing, and i knew i smoked it right. So i just stick to illegal drug since they deffinatly do the job their meant to.

I dont think it was th salvia that fucked him up, he sounds mentally unstable. Its proberly for the best...

[Kush Over]

I can't believe this shit.

Not the suicide, but the need to even bring it up.

It's not like the Mazatec forced it down his fucking throat -- he took it willingly! IRRESPONSIBLY! And because of this fucking God damn nimrod, Louisiana -- MY STATE -- banned salvia. Missouri, another state, suffered the same prohibition.

The reports say he was a straight-A student. He must have not been very intelligent, or Delaware's education system must be in the fucking gutter. Or perhaps he was mentally unstable from the beginning, and the salvia just allowed those anomalies to manifest?

Oh, that's it... Kathleen Chidestar, his mother, suspected he was depressed and smoked salvia to alleviate this. Well, he was taking the wrong fucking substance for that, then! He signed his own death warrant, that's my opinion.

It's literally like a schizophrenic individual taking acid to help stop the sensory overload. Two wrongs do not make a right.

Does that mean it should be illegal -- because it caused someone mentally unstable prior to taking a hallucinogen to go insane? That makes a lot of sense.

I like how he committed suicide. LoL

Stifled himself in a fucking tent with a charcoal grill.

Though, he was only seventeen years old. I don't think anyone not old enough to go to war or smoke a fucking cigarette should be allowed to purchase hallucinogenics, online or off.

"I'm seventeen and I know the secret of life!1!!!1"

Yeah, Brett and just about every other teenager in circulation.

[rollinKansas]

wasn't it you, back in the day that wanted to trick someone into doing 20x on a gravity bong? cuz if it was, your views on it sure seemed to have change...

True..i did plan on tricking him w/ a gravity bong, adn i ended up just lettin him smoke otta a pipe to trick him. I fully 100% admit i should have never done that. you were right...i was wrong. I had no idea the full power of salvia at that time.

Secondly making it illigal isn't going to make more people do it....thats something i'd expect a fucking retard to say. the main reason people dont' do drugs are that their illigal. I remember when i quit smokin reefer for a while so i decided to try salvia as an alternative. i was mistaken, as it made a poor substitute.

And having a weak mind has nothing to do with it..you've probably never even tried salvia or you wouldnt' say something that assenine. I was actually lucky i tripped so hard i didn't even know i was tripping...all i knew was that i was in this oarnge world with a lake and i was like a ferris wheel spinning over it, and it seemed like thats what life was.

[rollinKansas]

only that first part was for slip

[slipknotpsycho]

I remember when i quit smokin reefer for a while so i decided to try salvia as an alternative. i was mistaken, as it made a poor substitute.
from the first time i tried it, i knew it was something i probably shouldn't count on doing alot... the trip is so intense it's almost scary to do it again, i mean in a few years, if i had the chance i'd probably order another vial of it, and go back to my symetrically perfect square world.....but that's just definately something i don't want to do on a regular basis.... i don't see why anyone would, it's not exactly a 'fun' high, but it's captivating, in the fact of how it twists your perception of the world so badly, and how you feel afterwards, i kind of feel drained. like if someone managed to just suck every bit of knowledge out of my brain and put it in his, we'd both be extremely exhausted theoretically... that's how i felt at the end of it...

[Freshy]

wait wait wait.... i'd say one of the main reasons people do drugs are because they are illegal. the whole "rebel against the system". if u look at how many people smoked weed when it was legal, then after it was illegal it went up.

and if u still believe it is the main reason people don't do drugs, then it's not a very good reason. considering 70 million people have tried weed and most of my friends have never even heard of salvia.

[toothpaste100]

LIVES LOST TO ALCOHOL IS NO WHERE NEAR THE POINT, PLEASE FOCUS ON THE POINT

LOL

[Kush Over]

^ LoL!

I thought the same shit!

LoL. Check this shit out. http://fathers.ourfamily.com/alcohol.htm

"Increasing US alcohol consumption could save 150,000 lives per year."

[AndrewLIKESbud]

Salvia is jsut like any other hallucinogenic , just stronger. And yes it probably will become illegal soon. Oh well, won't stop people from using it. don't you love the usa, where you can get any drug concievable.

[slipknotpsycho]

Salvia is jsut like any other hallucinogenic , just stronger. And yes it probably will become illegal soon. Oh well, won't stop people from using it. don't you love the usa, where you can get any drug concievable.
you could technically get any drug in any country... it's the ease and price that makes america unique...

[easton]

I have smoked salvia on several occasions....never got high.

[graph]

True..i did plan on tricking him w/ a gravity bong, adn i ended up just lettin him smoke otta a pipe to trick him. I fully 100% admit i should have never done that. you were right...i was wrong. I had no idea the full power of salvia at that time.

Secondly making it illigal isn't going to make more people do it....thats something i'd expect a fucking retard to say. the main reason people dont' do drugs are that their illigal. I remember when i quit smokin reefer for a while so i decided to try salvia as an alternative. i was mistaken, as it made a poor substitute.

And having a weak mind has nothing to do with it..you've probably never even tried salvia or you wouldnt' say something that assenine. I was actually lucky i tripped so hard i didn't even know i was tripping...all i knew was that i was in this oarnge world with a lake and i was like a ferris wheel spinning over it, and it seemed like thats what life was.

Man... I don't even know where to start with you.

Alright, let's take it from your first point. Are you saying that you never tried salvia before you tricked some other kid into doing it? Or after a few times of doing it you realized it wasn't for you? Either way, that's the key here, Salvia is not the drug for YOU

Secondly, if you DON'T think that as soon as they make salvia illegal that hundreds of news agencies will jump on that issue and make it even more popular, causing kids to want to try this new "mystery drug", then someone else is the fucking retard here. I'm not saying the new fad will last a while, I'm saying it'll last for a few weeks or months while kids try to grab hold of any remnants they can.

Another point you made was that it doesn't matter if a person has a weak mind to commit suicide, therefore implying that after using salvia, it would be easy for many to kill themselves. If you are having suicidal thoughts then maybe you're trying to blame your problems on salvia as well.

Besides, your trip doesn't sound that hard. Maybe you're new to trips, hallucinations, and the like, as I'm sure most experienced veterans will tell you that seeing the devil's face melt (our friend acid) is far more traumatic than life as an orange lake and ferris wheel.

I think everyone on this thread has made their voice heard. I don't think you're going to find people agreeing with you on prohibition of a plant on cannabis.com.

[ADaisyChain]

Did the world just get lighter?

[thewanderer]

I was planning on ordering some salvia really soon.. I've never used any hallucinogenic drug and from what I've read about salvia trips it seems to be quite an experience. I don't want to use it to get "fucked up" on it recreationally, I just want to experience a salvia trip. I'm a mature person, is salvia right for me?

What in the hell can one hour-long trip do to you to make you want to commit suicide? I've heard there's actually an "afterglow" effect that causes you to feel very happy about life in general for anywhere from a few hours to more than three days.

[LIP]

Admitidly its only like a smack head taking an oversdose, this aint aLL that important,

[Euphoric]

Salvia doesnt cause suicide.
It should not be made illegal.

Like any other drug it should be treated with respect and taken responsibly.

[acrca]

Me and my friend were talkin at scchool 2day about what drugs he has done, cuz hes done alot, cuz his brothers are drug dealers, and he can get anything from weed to heroin

anyway i aske him about salvia divornium, cuz ive heard so much crazy shit, and he told me he would never do that drug, and he told me about those people who comit suicide on it.

Its crazy cuz ive heard it twice 2day.

When did this happen?

[friendowl]

salvia is the shit
if you think your a bad ass
let me give you a bong rip of 21x
you will die and be reborn

maybe some people actually like the feeling of death
and they cant wait so they kill themselves cuz they
already know whats coming.

[CocaCola]

ive heard so much crazy shit, and he told me he would never do that drug, and he told me about those people who comit suicide on it.

See how the machine works? The bullshit is already spreading...

I've heard so much shit about people going crazy and killing themselves on Salvia so I'm never gonna try it, I'll just stick with Acid!2211

It's all been said and done before with Acid, for christ sakes... (BTW, this isn't directed at you acrca)

[rollinKansas]

[QUOTE=graph]

Secondly, if you DON'T think that as soon as they make salvia illegal that hundreds of news agencies will jump on that issue and make it even more popular, causing kids to want to try this new "mystery drug", then someone else is the fucking retard here. I'm not saying the new fad will last a while, I'm saying it'll last for a few weeks or months while kids try to grab hold of any remnants they can.QUOTE]


It's obviously going to get popular anyways, I assure you that this is going to be a big topic in the near future. so how is making the plant illigal going to boost the people who try it...their going to anyways as soon as they hear about it. wether its' being illigal or cause its' growing in popularity anyways as we speak.

[graph]

Secondly, if you DON'T think that as soon as they make salvia illegal that hundreds of news agencies will jump on that issue and make it even more popular, causing kids to want to try this new "mystery drug", then someone else is the fucking retard here. I'm not saying the new fad will last a while, I'm saying it'll last for a few weeks or months while kids try to grab hold of any remnants they can.


It's obviously going to get popular anyways, I assure you that this is going to be a big topic in the near future. so how is making the plant illigal going to boost the people who try it...their going to anyways as soon as they hear about it. wether its' being illigal or cause its' growing in popularity anyways as we speak.

popular on cannabis.com, sure.

popular to people who smoke weed, sure.

popular to the majority of people who watch geraldo rivera, because you know it's going to be his ass showing biased information, not likely.

[reality0]

Wow this is amazing how its everywhere. I worked with this kid and he was actually kind of close to me. It sucks, because I used to smoke with him. But he started to slowly change. Like when we were walking around my town he would just stop and look at things and just have this wierd look on his face. Then 4 days later he commited suicide. I still cant believe it. R.i.P man, I'll never forget you..

[Kokujin X]

Well... that sounds like Everquest to me. Remember people killin themselfs over that shit? I know salvia can be scary at times, but trust me... its nothing more then a trip. Some people must just take what they see to literaly.. I remember the first time one of my friends did it, he was scared shitless, telling us to not let "them" take him away again. Like his entire reality was fake and this new salvia trip reality was the only thing that ever existed as he explains.

Its just a trip! People, don't take these things to heart! And certainly don't kill yourself because you had a jacked up trip. I'v smoked salvia PLENTY of times and im exactualy the same... I dont look at shit weird and think I unlocked the secrete of the universe because I was sucked into another relm. This is the reason salvia will soon be illegal...

[Kokujin X]

I was planning on ordering some salvia really soon.. I've never used any hallucinogenic drug and from what I've read about salvia trips it seems to be quite an experience. I don't want to use it to get "fucked up" on it recreationally, I just want to experience a salvia trip. I'm a mature person, is salvia right for me?

What in the hell can one hour-long trip do to you to make you want to commit suicide? I've heard there's actually an "afterglow" effect that causes you to feel very happy about life in general for anywhere from a few hours to more than three days. Its not even an hour long, its more like 5 minutes. The peak goes away incredibly fast and you feel kinda stoned afterward, but only kinda. I have 0% clue as to why someone would kill themselfs after a salvia trip. Like I said, done 10x and 20x extract plenty of times and not once thought "im gonna kill myself". Yeah, its one hell of a trip but doesn't last long at all. I think it may be the intensity that catches people by suprise, and its also VERY diffrent then anything I have ever tried. But still... People, have controle over your mind!

[singingbowl420]

I love salvia but its not something that you get "high" off of its something you do during meditation and to look inside yourself and is just like any other drug you have to be in a relaxed mood to do it or its going to be bad

[ToKnoIsToGro]

Salvia is some crazy shit, that 20X plus. It should be made illegal, because these headshops and sales people taxing $65 for one gram of it is ridiculous. Ban the shit out of it and then it will be much more reasonably priced. How do we know that kid didnt have some pre existing medical condition which really was the underlying cause? we dont.

[Fan o KmK]

dude rollinkansas ur dumb. and so is that kid who killed himself. its a fucking drug. of course its a mindfuck. goddamn people.

[WhiskeyGirl]

SALVIA IS FUCKED UP, IT IS MAKING PEOPLE GO CRAZY, AND LITTERALLY KILL THEMSELVES! in Delaware a kid had commited suicide and wrote in his suicide note that he had been using salvia and it had really opened his mind. "How can I go on living after I learned the secrets of life," he wrote. "It took me 17 years, but I finally figured it out. I can't tell you that here because that kind of information can cause chaos." THATS SOME FREAKY SHIT ESPECIALLY IF YOU HAVE TRIED IT!! he really thought he knew the meaning to life and had killed him self. I HIGHLY SUGGEST LOOKING THIS STORY UP ON THE INET - PUT IN SALVIA SUICIDE!

my personal recommendation: dont try it. its a mind fuck and a half and you wont be the same. and its not at surprising about what that kid had done, you realise things about this life and yourself tht you never imagined!

I WOULDNT BE TO SURPRISED OR SADDENED IF THIS STUFF IS ILLEGAL SOON!

Yeah about Salvia? Never really heard any 1 I know talk of trying this drug ? They say its legal , thats why that 17 yr old tried it that died.....? wtf? You mean that is legal and pot isnt? Country is really fucked up, some1 please give me some info on Salvia, I have a 17 yr old son, and I really hope he isnt stupid enough to be experimenting with this shit , because it is LEGAL ????!!!!jesus --- what next??

[singingbowl420]

salvia isnt really dangerous if you just use it the right way...you will have some hardcore visions but its not something to use to get fucked up...and the effects only last 5 or 10 min at the most...its not leathal its just some dumbass kid killed himself after saying he knew the meaning of life... the kid probably had a problem before he smoked it...its just like any other hallucigenic...you should always have a sitter with you...the kid in question probably wanted to die (not saying that is what it was) and just did it after smoking just to have an exuse to do so

[CocaCola]

Yeah about Salvia? Never really heard any 1 I know talk of trying this drug ? They say its legal , thats why that 17 yr old tried it that died.....? wtf? You mean that is legal and pot isnt? Country is really fucked up, some1 please give me some info on Salvia, I have a 17 yr old son, and I really hope he isnt stupid enough to be experimenting with this shit , because it is LEGAL ????!!!!jesus --- what next??
None of them should be illegal.

Pot didn't kill nobody... Acid didn't kill nobody... and Salvia didn't kill nobody.

[horror business]

Actually, the one time that I smoked WAAY too much pot that was very potent, I (it wasn't laced) saw (not literally, but in my mind) my whole life flash by. I saw images in my mind that I used to see in my mind as a child, images that I hadn't remembered in a long ass time. I thought I knew the meaning of MY life, and how all we have are our memories, and heavily contemplated suicide (I wasn't depressed or anything, I thought that there was no reason to live, now that I know the meaning, I (at the time) realised that there is no point for me to go on, it would just be a waste of everybodys time, and more bullshit to put myeslf through, when in the long run, it would just be a memory of mine). I wasn't really going to kill myself, but I thought it would be almost peaceful to commit suicide. It wasn't that I didn't love my life, or didn't want to live... it was just that I realised there was really no point in it. Like I said, I was only thinking about it, but I kept reminding myself that it was the drug making me think that. Luckily I'm still alive. However, while I haven't tried salvia, and have no intentions of every trying it, I can kind of relate to how the kid must have felt, thinking there was no reason to go on living, now that he knew the point, and it's very hard to explain.

[Eshelmen]

guys think about it seriously...

what if he DID know the secret to life? and it was too crazy for him and so he just gunned himself down cause he knows now that jesus aint real.. and so on
CHRIKEY

[Kush Over]

I highly doubt the secrets of life -- IT'S very meaning -- was revealed to a Delaware boy.

[WhiskeyGirl]

This drug is spelled too much like SALIVA YUK!!!!!!!!!!!!
TURN OFF!!

[singingbowl420]

This drug is spelled too much like SALIVA YUK!!!!!!!!!!!!
TURN OFF!!

lol what the hell are you talking about?:confused:

[WhiskeyGirl]

lol what the hell are you talking about?:confused:

YOU KNOW , THE gross stuff that comes out of your mouth, when you spit LOL. what do you mean what am I talking about ? Until I heard about this so - called drug, thats the only Sa l i v a I know LOL
L8ER
Must be the generation Gap!!

[CocaCola]

Jesus, what a waste of air.

[singingbowl420]

lol oh I feel dumb now saliva salvia ....dont mind me Im just high....

[orangeman]

I'm not for sure but I think this is old news. I dont really care much for the kid or the drug because it's pretty just..dumb. If you let a drug lead you to the point in your life to where you think it's pointless and decide to take your own life your insane. And theres been more bad trips reported with salvia than good so why keep doin it? I think this drug should be banned and thought of as bad as PCP is thought of..Just because salvia is more of a novice drug doesnt mean it's safe.. that just means that there hasnt even been enough time to put into a deep research into the shit. No offence to you salvia abusers out there :D.

Btw what does salvia smell like when it's being burned?

[CocaCola]

Tea... when you smoke it... you can kind of taste and smell it... and feel it, inside... it's different!1

[mrdevious]

As I see it, salvia will intensify and alter whatever is in your head. This kid was dealing with depression and undoubtedly suicidal thoughts. Take salvia, innevitably it accentuated the mindstate he was already in and intensified it, as pretty much any hallucinogen will do. Even on a much tamer level, my sister (who deals with depression) won't smoke weed, not because she's against it but because it makes her depressed as hell. I think we should spend a lot less time legislating how we're going to punish people for controlling their own consciousness, and start educating people about the dangers of certain drugs when you have a mental disorder, as well as how to responsibly use each type of drug.

[SensiRide]

Btw what does salvia smell like when it's being burned?

Fucking creepy.
Seriously, the smell freaks me out - it smells evil! Very hard to describe, kinda mossy and creepy.......

[cannabis campbell]

I'm not for sure but I think this is old news. I dont really care much for the kid or the drug because it's pretty just..dumb. If you let a drug lead you to the point in your life to where you think it's pointless and decide to take your own life your insane. And theres been more bad trips reported with salvia than good so why keep doin it? I think this drug should be banned and thought of as bad as PCP is thought of..Just because salvia is more of a novice drug doesnt mean it's safe.. that just means that there hasnt even been enough time to put into a deep research into the shit. No offence to you salvia abusers out there :D.

Btw what does salvia smell like when it's being burned?

it smells really weird you cant describe it like stale resin in a way its disgusting! lol

[lagstronaut]

I highly doubt the secrets of life -- IT'S very meaning -- was revealed to a Delaware boy.


So he'd have to be older and in a more well known area of America to be considered? :confused:

[Kush Over]

No.

They'd have to be someone without a suspected prior mental condition to taking a fucking hallucinogen to be considered.

[The Grim Reefer]

For god sakes, keep in mind is the kid was using acne medication that his mom was suspecting was putting him into his depressed state.

Once again, legal prescription drugs take their toll.

So many people get drunk and kill themselves everyday.

Is alcohol banned?

<3

[mrdevious]

it smells really weird you cant describe it like stale resin in a way its disgusting! lol

I thought it smelled and tasted just like smoking green tea, which I tried once just for the hell of it.

[enthused]

i enjoy it. i find it fun. of course im not a dumbass little kid who thinks the secrets of life are in a hallucinogen

and you are fucking retarded, having a weak mind/body chemistry does have to do with it. some people can't handle LSD, some people can't even handle marijuana. some people believe everything they see/hear/read/whatever. if he believed the secrets of life were in there..its HIS OWN GOD DAMN FAULT. its all in the person. NO ONE forced him to do the salvia, its his own damn fault that he couldn't tell reality from a plant.

ive done salvia 20x many times. I find it quite enjoyable, and only had a bad trip my first time because I didn't know what to expect. Now I do it every couple weeks. its not the salvias fault.

[rollinKansas]

once agai we all got off of the subject...

[orange floyd]

True..i did plan on tricking him w/ a gravity bong, adn i ended up just lettin him smoke otta a pipe to trick him. I fully 100% admit i should have never done that. you were right...i was wrong. I had no idea the full power of salvia at that time.

Secondly making it illigal isn't going to make more people do it....thats something i'd expect a fucking retard to say. the main reason people dont' do drugs are that their illigal. I remember when i quit smokin reefer for a while so i decided to try salvia as an alternative. i was mistaken, as it made a poor substitute.

And having a weak mind has nothing to do with it..you've probably never even tried salvia or you wouldnt' say something that assenine. I was actually lucky i tripped so hard i didn't even know i was tripping...all i knew was that i was in this oarnge world with a lake and i was like a ferris wheel spinning over it, and it seemed like thats what life was.


ive yet to meet a person that won't smoke cannabis based ONLY on the fact that its illeagle. and yes people with weak minds should not do salvia because it will scare the SHIT out of them. its a drug for people who are experienced with psychedelics and are very mentally stable. if your not either of those, it will most likely scare the shit of them. salvia shouldnt be illeage, idiots should be educated.

[CocaCola]

Fucking creepy.
Seriously, the smell freaks me out - it smells evil! Very hard to describe, kinda mossy and creepy.......
Hahaha, it does smell strange. Like shrooms smell strange... it all smells psychedelic, to me.

[STLsMoker4LiFe]

LIVES LOST TO ALCOHOL IS NO WHERE NEAR THE POINT, PLEASE FOCUS ON THE POINT


The point was, you cant judge something as a whole from an isolated incident. He was basically saying if you were to take one incident and connect it to everything as whole based off that incident, then nobody would drink anymore, or drive cars for that matter. Because one guy had an accident, ran off the road and killed himself, I guess that means everyone that gets behind the wheel, is just meant to die, just like he did.LOL, if that were true, then there would be alot more dead people in the world. I guess since there alcoholics, nobody should ever drink a beer again cause we will all become alcoholics.


Next time be smart enough to realize when someone is being sarcastic.

peace...

[CocaCola]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2XS1d3xxgT8&search=Salvia

This is one of the funniest Salvia videos I've seen.

[Up In Smoke 420]

It's probably just new propoganda. I bet they in like 10 years will have Salvia with all this bull info saying it will do all these bad things... like reefer madness

[KING KUSH]

is salvia a depressant? or downer?

[willystylle]

I doubt that they gonna ban Sally. After all - isn't it a type of Sage? Isn't sage a type of herb used for the enhancement of flavours and smells in food? Why stop there? Why not just ban food? Seriously - Nutmeg highs are shitty and ineffective - and they can kill. So why not ban nutmeg? Why not ban all condiments? Food kills ppl 2, right? Ppl commit suicide over being fat, which is a direct result of overeating, right? So yeah - LETS BAN FOOD!!!!

The fact is there will always be idiots in this world and these idiots are going to ruin it for the rest of us. So yes, thank you idiots - next you'll want to make air illegal too. Ever had an oxygen rush? Yeah they really f**k your mind up!

[Marijuanderful]

i have never done salvia before and recently i have been considering it because i hear it "opens your mind" and all that shit but one of my buddies told me if you smoke a strong enough extract, like 80 or 100x, a portal will open up that you can actually step through into another dimension. when i heard him say this to me i didnt really believe it but i went along with it because i have never experienced salvia and therefore cannot vouch for it, so anyone wanna help me out a little?

[miraz]

From my not so extensive knowledge of salvia they dont sell 100x and i dont think ive ever seen 80x.

[BestTonicIsChronic]

Ive done salvia and I hated ever minute of it. I dont think Ive been the same since. When I say "I dont think" because I cant remember what I felt like before it, but something definatly feels "off". That shits scarin me that the kid committed suicide cuz he knew the answere to life, cuz after salvia Ive been thinkin bout that shit and thats the kind o' shit that I end up thinkin about when Im stoned.

[Mr.Whitey]

I could see someone committing suicide on the stuff, just in the way that you can get suicidal from taking acid. The drugs do open your mind, in more ways then one.

After using the shit your mind is different, the drugs literally drive you insane and you more often then not go through some intense thinking periods, more rapidly with the Salvia though as the high lasts a LOT less.

They're drugs not for the weak minded that's for sure as they're quite the mind fuck.

[BestTonicIsChronic]

Thats for damn sure. /\ They definatly get you thinking, maybe thats why most of that kind of shit is illegal even tho its mostly harmless. Like alchohol dosnt get you thinking like pot does. But back to salvia its just so fucking intense, its like all the thinkin done on pot goes into 10 mins of insanity. At least it was for me.

[Mr.Whitey]

For me it was a slight pot buzz, then the shit got rolling and I had about a 5 minute high that was almost just like acid with a few hallucinations and some nice color's and then I came down to a weed type high that lasted fer like an hour.

Alright stuff but I'd rather take a hit zone out for nine hours and then smoke some weed when I cam down. Plus Salvia is fucking expensive.

[Nylo]

SALVIA IS FUCKED UP, IT IS MAKING PEOPLE GO CRAZY, AND LITTERALLY KILL THEMSELVES! in Delaware a kid had commited suicide and wrote in his suicide note that he had been using salvia and it had really opened his mind.

That's crazy. You really have to have tried the stuff to..well, not "sympathise" with him, but understand the trippy effects of the stuff.


I remember my VERY first Salvia experience. I ordered a 5x trial pill and was like..."hey, this isn't so bad. I think I"ll order the 20x!" Flash-forward to me rolling up a HUGE bowl of salvia and OH. MY. F*****G. GOD.

It felt like the entire existance of reality as I knew it was being pulled through a needle. And I totally, completely, UTTERLY, lost my mind for 20 minutes. I can understand how the kid totally tripped out. On the same note, I still think he's a dumbass. I'm amazed he even had the ability to write while on the stuff. I can barely stand up for a minute before thinking I'm 4 billion miles above the earth.

[BDubz26062]

http://www.usatoday.com/news/nation/2006-04-02-salvia_x.htm

[CocaCola]

is salvia a depressant? or downer?
More like a powerful psychedelic depressant.

[junior420]

Can anyone send me the link on that suicde report??

[BDubz26062]

slavia will funk u up

[EbelEyes]

Can anyone send me the link on that suicde report??


http://www.delawareonline.com/apps/pbcs.dll/article?AID=/20060226/NEWS/602260356/1006

[Euphoric]

the suicide was after dude smoked it.
want to know the real "suicide drug"?
ALCOHOL

[willystylle]

If we started banning everything that kills people - we wouldn't have cars, wives, buildings, people.

Everyone is running to the FDA about Savlia because it's still new and people fear what they don't understand.

Go around and tell people that cars kill thousands each year, millions each year worldwide. Go and tell people that they can't drive their cars anymore because it kill people.

You'd be laughed at because in the eyes of the general public a car is an asset. I leave it to you guys to do the math (excuse the overexaggeration, but you get the idea):

1. Cars - killed 91802757126598324756897239863214895 people so far.
2. Alcohol - killed 23495873214985709318769813653175 people so far.
2. Weed - killed 0.
3. Salvia - killed 1. (If you even count that kid that offed himself)