Since you asked...

[Gumby]

Well you didn't really ask but Alex Joens has come up and I just thought it'd be a good time to post this one... It's how the Bushes killed Kennedy...

atleast they play some bob marley at the begining... It's pretty neat little video... and go ahead Bong tell me everything that's wrong with it, I'm waiting :)

[Gumby]

http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=8439228734279462200&q=jfk

would have helped if I had this huh...

[Shelbay]

Hi again Gumby....Do you watch 60 minutes? If so..did you see the show with Tyler Drumheller?

[Bong30]

Well you didn't really ask but Alex Joens has come up and I just thought it'd be a good time to post this one... It's how the Bushes killed Kennedy...

atleast they play some bob marley at the begining... It's pretty neat little video... and go ahead Bong tell me everything that's wrong with it, I'm waiting :)
you should worry less about baiting me a worry more about your argument, as flawed as it may be.

trigger happy much? hahahahahahahah

[Bong30]

Hi again Gumby....Do you watch 60 minutes? If so..did you see the show with Tyler Drumheller?

60 min is left leaning so im sure gumby loves it, his top 10 for sure


Far-Left Katie Couric Move To CBS, â??60 Minutesâ?� Bad News For Christians And Conservatives
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By John Lofton, Editor

WORRIED THAT â??Catholic Townâ?? would not allow homosexuals or contraceptivesKatie Couric going to CBS is bad news for Christians and conservatives. She is vehemently anti-both and pro-anything on the Left â?? the further Left the better. According to the Media Research Center: â??Since becoming co-host of NBCâ??s Today in April 1991, Katie Couric has often used her perch to salute her liberal heroes (including Hillary Clinton and Jimmy Carter) or complain about â??right-wing conservatives.â?? In her years on â??Today,â?? sheâ??s lectured Charlton Heston about the need for gun control, championed the need for campaign finance â??reform,â?? and even touted the wonders of Franceâ??s nanny state.â?�

On the NBC â??Todayâ?� show in late 2004, Couric was gushing effusively about a new movie about a certain individual. She said it was â??fascinating, provocative,â?� that this man was â??so ahead of his time,â?� that he had â??audacityâ?� in opposing the morals of the time. Oh, and he was â??very solution oriented.â?� So, who was Couric talking about? One of the most despicable, criminal sex-perverts in American history, Alfred Kinsey! For the grisly details about this modern-day Marquis de Sade, go, please, to http://drjudithreisman.com.

[Gumby]

Hi again Gumby....Do you watch 60 minutes? If so..did you see the show with Tyler Drumheller?


on the last one i saw was the one about Marc Emery... I haven't liked it since they went with the 3 hosts... they have 3 hosts right?

http://www.pot-tv.net/archive/shows/pottvshowse-4168.html

that's the Emery show... the only news I watch is CSPAN(2), CNN the situation room with Wolf, Countdown with Keith (the best on) and the daily show and colbert report, if you count that as news...

What is the Tyler Drumheller show about, or should I say what is he about?

Bong I didn't 'bait' you... look at all my posts, look at what you write under ALL of them... I knew this was about Alex Jones, something you love, and knew you'd write something pointless... Go watch Fox and let us talk about something we chose to talk about...

[Bong30]

[QUOTE=Gumbyand go ahead Bong tell me everything that's wrong with it, I'm waiting :)[/QUOTE]


you want me to post, you dont want me to post.....

[Gumby]

I said tell me what was wrong with it... not post crap behind everything I do... and look three post and nothing related to what I originally posted... you doing the same crap I said you would do... I don't see that as baiting I see it as you being ignorant. My posts actually have something in them aside from a stupid googled search copy and paste... I atleast read and believe what I post not follow it blindly... this post was meant to be sarcastic, I was talking about Bush and Alex jones with psycho in another post and put this here because of that... maybe you should read alittle more...

"It is useless for the sheep to pass resolutions in favor of vegetarianism while the wolf remains of different opinion."

- William Ralph Inge

[Shelbay]

Hi Gumby..sorry about posting my reply about Tyler Drumheller..he was the former highest ranking CIA Officer in Europe..made a very convincing case about the Bush administration ignoring intelligence that indicated Iraq had no WOMD and no active nuclear program before the U.S. invaded it. I really can't "debate" politics but really am interested in what most have to say on here...anyway..I was just curious if any other high ranking Government Officials have ever publicly attacked the same administration that they used to serve? And what do you think about Moussaoui? Should he die like he wants to (Jihad?) or be sentenced to LWOP?

[Gumby]

wow, that's kinda ironic... tonight on Hardball (it may have been countdown, i was high ;) ) there was a former CIA officer from europe as well.. it may have been him, I only caught the end of it... I'm wainting for the replay... It was good stuff about how they didn't find any WMD before the invasion... I'll try to find more from the MSNBC site about it, but like I said I was high...

I think Bush caused 9/11... I think Moussoui is a scapegoat... I think I'm crazy because I believe it... but there is a lot out there that points that way... these are the best two...

http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=-3498980438587461603&q=9%2F11

http://filmstripinternational.com/filmstrips.php?filmstrip=jones2

I have a feeling Fitzgerald knows a lot about pre war intellegence and is holding it until his case goes further.. or when the Dem's win the House and Senate it will come... but from what has just leak, it looks like the whole war was very slanted when we first went in... I'd recomend following the new CIA case because the lady they are blaming the leak of the camps in Europe just said she didn't do it... I think more may come out of that... but they are the most secretive office in the history of the US so there aren't many people who know what's going on... just watch the press secretary... he doesn't answer anything...

"How will we defeat Communism unless we know what it is? ... We have got to fight it with something better. Not try to conceal the thinking of our own people. They are a part of America and even if they think ideas that are contrary to ours they have a right to have them, a right to record them and a right to have them in places where they are accessible to others. It is unquestioned or it is not America."

- President Dwight Eisenhower, 1953

[Shelbay]

That is ironic...he was the highest ranking in Europe. I respect your opinion..but how could our President have allowed 9-11 to happen? That day..just to sad to even read about sometimes...much less have lived through it and wonder if your Government could have prevented it..I don't see how President Bush at the time could have done anything more than he did...and if they hate us (Americans) so badly I HAVE to believe our Government would do whatever it takes to stop another 9-11. Sometimes I really despise the powers that be (the control) but if our Country was really being deprived of liberties then we wouldn't even have the net to discuss it right? I just watched part of that new video from the #2 Al-qaida dingleberry..

[Gumby]

did you watch the videos... I'm not saying bush knew they did it I'm saying he was involved in doing it... just google 9/11 and you'll see half the posts are about the cover-up and the involvment of Bush... that's why he has the been spying on everyone.

I don't think Bush expected the internet to boom as it has... you must remember the internet was booming at the end of clinton's term... then Bush got in and it stayed in only a few peoples control, much like television... but, yes since anyone can post anything now and the internet population is booming more information is getting out there... I mean none of us got our news from online 5 years ago... but now everyone bloggs or posts... it really has boomed and it's because of that Bush is at 32% approval... You don't go from 90% to 32% in 4 years because of nothing... it's because people realize we live in a business state and the seperation between the rich and poor is huge... so they've gone online and are talking about it more... But Bush still wants to cover that up... just look at the NSA case with AT&T as well as the bill he's pushing in congress to mandate approvals for each webpage. He's trying to control the information that is out there and it's the least american thing he is doing... Mainly why Fingold has censured him

This is the first time Bin Laden has said anything about the American people instead of our government... I find that odd... why would he hate all of us, yet wait till we have been attacking him to finially say we are as responsible as our leaders are?? I just think that a lot of coverage of them has been protrayed a bit wrong... They don't just hate us to hate us, they are human...

[Shelbay]

Hi Gumby...okay...I thought I had figured out where I "stood" on President Bush....but now again I read about more restrictions and invasions on Americans.....but when I start getting angry I remember what someone on here told me about that day and then I feel like he has to do what he is doing...I admit it...I don't get politics I just know how my heart feels when I read or see most "news" about the ENTIRE world these days...not just America. Did you know that background checks are just now being done on apprx. 400,000 port workers?!! I would consider it differently if this had been done before now...but something like having tamper-resistant identification cards for almost 1 million American Workers at our ports and background checks should have been done a long time ago IF this was really being done in the name of protecting us from Terrorists. The International Longshore and Warehouse Union leaders have agreed to turn over membership lists that the Government will compare with names on their (feds) terrorist watch list...like a "name" on a list is going to stop them from killing more Americans...I mean this is just saying...we are stupid? I would rather be told that giving up ALL my personal info just to work in this country is what is really going on than for us to be told this is in our best interest at this late stage...do you understand this?

[Gumby]

I think this whole term has been Bush using words to his advantage... I'm thinking that's what you are meaning... After 9/11 if we were in such a great threat you wouldn't expect such weak borders 4 years later. I mean do you think you can walk into Iraq and get a job for $15 an hour?? If we are involved in a global war we should protect ourselves first.

I think it's the lack of acountability in this adminisration that has driven me to believe that they destroyed the WTC towers, flew a missle into the pentagon and blamed it on 'terrorist'. I mean Jeb Bush and Cheeny had planned it, or an act like Pearl Harbor, before it happened... and since then they have gained more power than any other leader in the history of our country... and that's not democracy.

But what really pissed me off was when they did not allow Cat Stevens to fly into america because his name was one that list... he is my favorite singer/songwritter ever. Explain to me how a guy who writes Peace Train is a terrorist...

"Don't you feel a change a coming
from another side of time
breaking down the walls of silence
lifting shadows from your mind
Placing back the missing mirrors
that before you couldn't find
filling mysteries of emptiness
that yesterday left behind

And we all know it's better
Yesterday has past
now let's all start the living
for the one that's going to last
And we all know it's better
Yesterday has past
now let's all start the living
for the one that's going to last

Don't you feel the day is coming
that will stay and remain
when your children see the answers
that you saw the same
when the clouds have all gone
there will be no more rain
and the beauty of all things
is uncovered again

Don't you feel the day is coming
and it won't be too soon
when the people of the world
can all live in one room
when we shake off the ancient
shake off the ancient chains of our tomb
we will all be born again
of the eternal womb "

- cat

and peacea train just cause he's the best -

Now I've been happy lately, thinking about the good things to come
And I believe it could be, something good has begun

Oh I've been smiling lately, dreaming about the world as one
And I believe it could be, some day it's going to come

Cause out on the edge of darkness, there rides a peace train
Oh peace train take this country, come take me home again

Now I've been smiling lately, thinking about the good things to come
And I believe it could be, something good has begun

Oh peace train sounding louder
Glide on the peace train
Come on now peace train
Yes, peace train holy roller

Everyone jump upon the peace train
Come on now peace train

Get your bags together, go bring your good friends too
Cause it's getting nearer, it soon will be with you

Now come and join the living, it's not so far from you
And it's getting nearer, soon it will all be true



I am hoping Tony Snow will be a little better at getting a messge out than Scotty.... perhaps they will be more open and honest with the people, but I doubt it... they love their secrects... and I only think people keep secrects cause they are hiding something bad not something good...