The new Tool album is a joke.

[CocaCola]

Please, the band doesn't want you to support this album... download it and hear it for yourself. Listen to the grand scheme... It's literally a joke, isn't it? I mean, it sounds like it... it's abysmal. Especially for a Tool album, it's REALLY bad. And Vicarious sounds like Schism reversed... gay.

If you buy this album, you're not Tool fan... you're a Tool fan boy, and the band doesn't like you.

The best part of the album is the mantra chanted during Intension and that's the only part that seems to have any thought put into it... well, it all seems like it does... but it's quite funny... if you know the Tool FAQ well enough, you might notice all the contradictions in this "10,000 Days". (LOL)

[Euphoric]

You're being trendy by fronting like youre "anti trendy" Pretty ironic.

Tool rules

[CocaCola]

Anti-trend... ahahaha... Tool does rule... their new album is fucking stupid. And people are still going buy it and like it and say "Oh, well it took a few listens for it to grow on me". Bah, you're all idiots.

[Genuine17]

your probably just gonna get flamed and thats it

[CocaCola]

Oh yeah, and way to avoid every aspect of my post regarding Tool and their new and shitty album. I like that... it's like you can't accept it or you you can't see it for the shit it is because hey, it's TOOOOL the greatest band ever!1 They probably still are one of the best but it seems to me that they like to fuck around with you sheep and that's hopefully what this album is... an actual joke... because man it sucks... the concept is lost... and the fact that it's constructed as a concept album makes it all the more funny. Directionless Tool wankery for the fan boys.

Don't make any response to the intent of my posts in this thread people, because then you'll be going against Tool!1 Insted try and weasel your way around what I'm saying and comment on what I'm doing or how I'm acting... that will get you're point across the rest of fan boys, that "Tool rules and what this crazy person is saying isn't true Tool rules".

[CocaCola]

your probably just gonna get flamed and thats it

Let them flame. That's what this thread is here for... to call out all the idiots who are completely misunderstand what faggoty Tool is trying to across to you retards. I only wish the band could admit it themselves and end this whole thing but why would they want to do that when they can put out any product they shit out of they're rusty assholes and make money off a bunch of idiots.

Send more money, fuck you budd-ay.

[zephyrinne]

I just 'acquired' the album and I've given it a couple listens. I've been a fan of Tool since way back, but I dunno... I think it coulda been better. CocaCola is right in saying that Vicarious sounds like Schism.. it really does. :( That'd be awesome if this album were a late April Fool's joke.

I just don't like the fans that will buy whatever the artist puts out and then they 'learn to love it'.. even if maybe they never liked it at all. People hate to criticize their favorite bands. But I think Tool/Maynard can do better than this.. well, I know they can. Bleh.. It's kinda catchy, I do like a few songs.. but it's def. my least fav. Tool album.

[Genuine17]

use to listen tool a lot but havent heard new one has tool given any hint that its joke other than it beginning a shitty album or is it just a hint (maybe they were fucked up the entire time of recording.)

[CocaCola]

Awww, shit and I was expecting more flaming... =[

Oh well, at least someone has heard the album and judged it accordingly. Trust me, I wanted to like it as well... But after hearing the single I knew it wasn't going to have the natural progression that Tool has had since the beginning... they are just going to branch off and ruin their sound by trying to sound like others ie Meshuggah... Plus APC really fucked over Maynards lyrics... plus his vocal range has diminished, which didn't really surprise me at all since it was starting to happen during Lateralus... BUT his range has nothing to with how awesome his vocals were on the earlier albums... and Dans drums are ruined... and plus now it's VERY appearnt the he's using electric kits (Which he has been since forever but now he is using it as actual electric drums and not with the finess from the previous albums) And all those gay solos?? I mean, what the hell has Adam thinking? Awesome effects... could have been used welll but nope... WAHHH WAAOOHHH WHEEEE WAHHHH WIDDILY WAAAOHHHAHHH...

And I love the concept of these fucking songs... The Pot? WHAT THE FUCK? YA MUST A BEEN SOOOO... HIIIGH... Blah, sounds like Tool trying to be Clutch. Rosetta Stoned? Sunkist and Sudafed, goddamn, shit the bed? Oh so you're fucking Meth fiend now? What is the point? And what does Rosetta Stoned mean? Is that a character in this story? And Wings For Marie... I know it's about his mom and it's personal, whatever... MAYNARD, HEY... YOU SUCK AT WRITING PERSONAL LYRICS... and plus the song drones on forever (like most of the softer songs.. like Right In Two and Intension) and never gets anywhere. Jambi with it's immensly shitty riff throughout most of the song... their shifty, cross branching dynamics? Where did they go?

The whole album is set up gay... the songs are written in a gay matter... and it's just over all...

GAY.

I'm sorry for so blunt but hey they were one of my favorite bands too, one that I could rely on for a good album all the time, but now can't because you fucking douches can't stop drooling over them.

Get over Tool so that maybe they'll stop fucking around and put out a good album. Not a decent one... Tool is too good for that. Tool is to good for 10,000 days, which is why I say halt you're purchase of the album and just download it and hear for youself what a huge joke this is.

[RevolverBlaze]

Why must people delve so DEEP into music and the bands info. Know all the shit about them, who thier mom is, what they did in 4th grade. Just fucking listen to the music you like. Simple

[VoidLivesOn]

Heres a flame.TOOL sucks.

[Euphoric]

Heres a flame.TOOL sucks.

why do u say that? it's easy to sit back in a recliner all day eating potato chips covered in filth and garbage then say the music you hear sucks.

Hahah

Theyre visionaries and theyre also fcking rich. And they can actually play instruments, so dont hate.

I am a musician and i really am amazed by the complexity of these songs. My musician friends say that tool has truly demonstrated that they have mastered their art. :cool:

[CocaCola]

LOL, nah uh. Over complexified. Tool can't handle such things... they were better when they were REAL.

[CocaCola]

Why must people delve so DEEP into music and the bands info. Know all the shit about them, who thier mom is, what they did in 4th grade. Just fucking listen to the music you like. Simple

I agree... but it needs to picked apart so that people can "get" the joke, so to speak.

[hutch b tokin]

The new Pearl Jam album is jammin.

[CocaCola]

I am really disappointed in all of you. You are tearing Tool apart for no reason. Bottomline: They have released nothing yet, nothing. Fuck everything said about this album, press releases, reviews, etc. They have released nothing. A lot of you are already saying how this is mediocre, etc. They have released nothing. We have absolutely no idea what is going to get released when you really think about it. This IS TOOL we are talking about. I seriously can't believe that some of you who claim to be huge Tool fans are actually worried about being let down. THIS IS MOTHERFUCKING TOOL WE ARE TALKING ABOUT, YOU BITCHES.

Don't you get it?


There is something going on, and it is going to be EPIC. I don't care for those of who, who seriously think this leak is it. I think that is pathetic, and I don't really know what the fuck you guys are thinking. THIS IS FUCKING TOOL!!

We will not be let down. Chill the fuck out. It WILL BE EPIC. This leak was intentional.

I can't wait to get flamed by the bullshit losers who claim that this is it and that you are disappointed. I seriously feel sorry for you, and will expect an apology. It might not be until the 16th or 6/6/06, but I expect an apology.

Shit, for that matter, you should all write the band and tell them how you all were talking shit about them, and how you fell for their trap, and how sorry you are for trash talking them. And be sure to tell them how much you love their new work when you actually finally hear it.

You all are seriously fucking pathetic.

Oh, and another thing. To everyone flaming Anothertediousjaunt. Quite. He use to be just like you. He would tear me apart for saying that there was more coming. But he too knew that something was off, and eventually came around. Now look at him. He is convinced. As you all should be. THIS IS FUCKING TOOL.

^Tool fan-boy, but he's got the right idea in mind.

[beachguy in thongs]

I've only heard the new song. I can't remember it, though.


10, 000 days by Tool. It may just be there best album to date, and that is a scary thought considering how frightfully good Lateralus was.

[StOneD.aS.FuK]

i once said TOOL were total shit, until i came across the lazeraus album at my local Library, i had to renew my card as it was the first time i got something from their in over 5 years. but its an ok album, not something id buy but its a good album to chill out too.

havent heard their new stuff.
but now i think tool are an alright band even though im into more heavier shit.

[aeonblue11]

I am going to agree that it is certainly not as good as Lateralus, Aenima, or Undertow. But I do disagree with you that it sucks. I was very disappointed at first as well, and I know they are capable of MUCH better. But I did listen to it more, and I have developed some level of appreciation for it. Vicarious does not sound anything like schism except for the intro. Jambi is one of my favorite Tool songs now. Intension is really mellow and like Disposition. Right in Two is probably the best song on the album with Jambi right behind it.

I am not a Tool fanboy, but even if this is their worst album ever. It's still Tool, which means that its STILL a hell of alot better than alot of other crap out there.

[CocaCola]

Listen to the composition of the album and it's songs... it's like they just pulled it out of their gaping asshole. And I ignore the stupid crap... why even bother with it? Why does it need to grow on you before you start to like it... what a shitty way to "appreciate" music... and yet almost everyone does it. Another set of songs to add to your playlist and play in the background when you're chatting it up with e-friends. Ugh... what a shitty way to listen to music... no wonder no one can hear that Tool's new album sucks. I doubt most of you even really listen to the music and how it's put together... all you hear is a song with a title...

[RevolverBlaze]

May jesus slap you all with fish sticks and allow the platypus to sadomize you while induced in an acid trance. James Bond has bombed the building, malo night suckas. Yeah I know I ranted for no reason.

[cygnustaxt]

Man the new tool cd is almost as lame as this thread.

[yoda]

I am not a Tool fanboy, but even if this is their worst album ever. It's still Tool, which means that its STILL a hell of alot better than alot of other crap out there.

oh right fucking on. as the one dude mentioned that they have mastered their art, they really have. the guitar is moving, great bass, sick drums, its all gravy. im listening to aenima now, and i hope 10,000 days is atleast somewhere close to as good.

[CocaCola]

Man the new tool cd is almost as lame as this thread.
Well, ok. I don't mind that I made a lame thread... just as long as it's clear that Tool's new album really sucks and that people are still going to be cumming over it because OH IT'S TOOL, THEY ARE INHUMAN11

As long as people have this mindset of making idols for themselves to worship, then they will always be blind. Tool is like the Golden Calf to alternative music...

[stangle12]

you have no depth to your opinion. all your saying is that it sucks (it doesnt even sound like you gave it a chance) and yeah, some people get all into it, but they're just excited. It takes time for people to check their expectations at the door...even if they are low. everyone gets their own feel for it, and it becomes just another chapter.
so what im sayin is. CHill the fuck out, check your expectations (and your ego) at the door

[thepope]

you have no depth to your opinion. all your saying is that it sucks (it doesnt even sound like you gave it a chance) and yeah, some people get all into it, but they're just excited. It takes time for people to check their expectations at the door...even if they are low. everyone gets their own feel for it, and it becomes just another chapter.
so what im sayin is. CHill the fuck out, check your expectations (and your ego) at the door


Eh, apparently liking the sound of the music isnt enough. I havent heard the album, but i can say this guy(OP) is a douche either way.


To the OP: So what if you think its shit?

[CocaCola]

I'm not trying to convince anyone not to listen to the album... do whatever the fuck you want... I'm telling you... it's retarded. Tool have never sounded so bad (Or bad at all, up until now.) and I don't like it. If you don't like my thread... then it's as simple as not reading it... and if you disagree with what I'm saying... then I could care less... good for you... tell me about it, I'd liek to hear. Wow, you still don't get it... What's the point of this thread? To see if you IDIOT Tool fans would get all huffy at me for stating my opinion. Whoops, did I insult you're new favorite album? Good, that was my intention because I think it sucked. And Stangle, I did have "depth" but you didn't understand what I was saying... clearly, I didn't make several long posts about nothing...

Did you miss this one?


Awww, shit and I was expecting more flaming... =[

This post explains my dislike for the album. It's far from unlistenable, as it blows shit out of most of the other crap that's out now but... Tool is one of those bands that just don't know when to stop and realize that their music is starting to suck... like Korn.

[CocaCola]

Eh, apparently liking the sound of the music isnt enough. I havent heard the album, but i can say this guy(OP) is a douche either way.


To the OP: So what if you think its shit?

Appearntly, you don't understand that I'm talking about musicality... The sound of the album is great for you cause you're a Tool fan boy and think it's a natural progression for Tool's sound. (If you're actually a fan that is)
Unfortunatly, the new album sucks and it isn't a natural progression... it's a forced progression. "Hey, we can't think of anymore ideas... so lets try and make our muisic more technical!1" ... "Yeah, remember how everybody made a big deal about the Fibbinochi part in Lateralus? Maybe we should try and make more technical stuff liek that?!" ... "Hey, Meshuggah is pretty technical, lets steal off of them."

Sorry, I won't just listen to ANYTHING. Certainly Tool's new album is not worthy for such praise... but oh it's gonna get it from all the brainwashed fans... except the critics are going to beat this album into the ground. Casue they know what to look for... Yeah, I'm critical about music... Why shouldn't I be allowed to be critical? At least it's not like I'll like any shit my favorite band puts out just becasue it's my favorite band.

So what? THAT'S what. ^

Calling me egotistical from a glorified box because of my bashing of an album I hate... Nobody wants to read it? THEN DON'T. Let this thread die alrady, I've already vented and if you keep it up then it'll stay... which I don't mind, cause it just proves my point even further.

[Polymirize]

I dunno. So far, I like Vicarious. I'll wait and see like the rest of the world to find out if the 2nd of May yields a surprise two-disk album, or if that live DVD is ever going to show up, stuff like that.
Maybe not their best work, but better than Opiate at least. Still better than most shit I hear on the radio. If they've got a secret album in the wings I'll be all over it when it drops, but to be honest that sounds like a hell of a conspiracy theory, even for Tool.
Lateralus is a hard album to live up to. I'm seeing them on the 4th, I'll let you know if they've pulled it off.

[CocaCola]

Yeah, but Opiate was done in the beginning... after more then ten years of exponential growth, NOW they put out an albe that is "at least better then Opiate"? Think about it for a second... If they can't even live up to Undertow, how can they get close to Aenima or Lateralus? I hope there is another album... 10,000 Days doesn't cut it for me.

[Shelbay]

haha...you are telling it like you see it! I don't have an opinion on them because I have never even heard of a band called tool until I read this thread... is there really a band called tool...google time just for curiosity now.

[slipknotpsycho]

haha...you are telling it like you see it! I don't have an opinion on them because I have never even heard of a band called tool until I read this thread... is there really a band called tool...google time just for curiosity now.
Oh my god. :eek:

[Shelbay]

I will take that as a yes.

[slipknotpsycho]

http://www.toolband.com/

[stangle12]

meh omg, this album sucks. zomg and your all here like little tool fans zomg. but i made this thread to bomg you zomg. this album sucks because im afraid to let go of my expectations zomg.
ZOMG

[cygnustaxt]

Appearntly, you don't understand that I'm talking about musicality... The sound of the album is great for you cause you're a Tool fan boy and think it's a natural progression for Tool's sound. (If you're actually a fan that is)
Unfortunatly, the new album sucks and it isn't a natural progression... it's a forced progression. "Hey, we can't think of anymore ideas... so lets try and make our muisic more technical!1" ... "Yeah, remember how everybody made a big deal about the Fibbinochi part in Lateralus? Maybe we should try and make more technical stuff liek that?!" ... "Hey, Meshuggah is pretty technical, lets steal off of them."

Sorry, I won't just listen to ANYTHING. Certainly Tool's new album is not worthy for such praise... but oh it's gonna get it from all the brainwashed fans... except the critics are going to beat this album into the ground. Casue they know what to look for... Yeah, I'm critical about music... Why shouldn't I be allowed to be critical? At least it's not like I'll like any shit my favorite band puts out just becasue it's my favorite band.

So what? THAT'S what. ^

Calling me egotistical from a glorified box because of my bashing of an album I hate... Nobody wants to read it? THEN DON'T. Let this thread die alrady, I've already vented and if you keep it up then it'll stay... which I don't mind, cause it just proves my point even further.

I retract my reply!

after listening to this album again, it really isn't as good as lateralus or undertow. I mean it's good and all, it just doesn't really compare to the greatness of their older albums.

[Jim Morrison]

i like the album but the only problem i have with it is the vocals get overpowerd by the instruments im thinking its due to the 210 bit rate tool deserves to be listened to in 320 bit rate im downloading another release of the album maybe it will have better audio quality and i can actually hear maynards vocals other than that i get pretty pumped from the song jambi it got me so pumped i threw my body against my book shelf and now i have to clean up this huge mess

[benagain]

I like it so far. I've been meaning to take it to the beach and lay out and listen but that hasn't happened yet. Maybe I have bad taste, but maybe I don't care. If ya enjoy it, then enjoy. If you don't then don't listen. That's my 2 cents.

[CocaCola]

I like it so far. I've been meaning to take it to the beach and lay out and listen but that hasn't happened yet. Maybe I have bad taste, but maybe I don't care. If ya enjoy it, then enjoy. If you don't then don't listen. That's my 2 cents.

Right on, man... See this... ahhh... :) This is one of those people who doesn't act like an idiot. Right on.


meh omg, this album sucks. zomg and your all here like little tool fans zomg. but i made this thread to bomg you zomg. this album sucks because im afraid to let go of my expectations zomg.
ZOMG

There were no expectations... no comparisons to any other album, Tool or otherwise... you need to check YOUR ego at the door, NARF!

[Maui Wowie]

I'm not trying to convince anyone not to listen to the album... do whatever the fuck you want... I'm telling you... it's retarded. Tool have never sounded so bad (Or bad at all, up until now.) and I don't like it. If you don't like my thread... then it's as simple as not reading it... and if you disagree with what I'm saying... then I could care less... good for you... tell me about it, I'd liek to hear. Wow, you still don't get it... What's the point of this thread? To see if you IDIOT Tool fans would get all huffy at me for stating my opinion. Whoops, did I insult you're new favorite album? Good, that was my intention because I think it sucked. And Stangle, I did have "depth" but you didn't understand what I was saying... clearly, I didn't make several long posts about nothing...

Did you miss this one?



This post explains my dislike for the album. It's far from unlistenable, as it blows shit out of most of the other crap that's out now but... Tool is one of those bands that just don't know when to stop and realize that their music is starting to suck... like Korn.
Agreed..

I love Tool's old songs, they used to be really good..

I downloaded some of the songs, honestly, they sounded like a couple of 13 year old's trying to make a Tool coverband.

The Pot sounds like the most retarded 6 minutes of sounds i've heard in my life, sounds like kids yelling out subliminal messages.

Don't even get me started on Right in Two, sounds like they tried mocking an ancient ritual or something, they just got someone to squeel and follow some stupid cheap drumbeat.

10,000 days the song itself sounds like what I can play when I'm stoned out of my mind and can't think of anything to play, incredibly sloppy and dull, the singer sounded like he was shoving his scrotum up his ass...

I used to be a Tool fan, but this album made the Goonies album look good(if there even was one).

[aeonblue11]

i dont think that its a bad album for what it has. i acually liked it, i just felt it was lacking content, not quality.

[Nochowderforyou]

I haven't had the chance to even hear it yet, but I really enjoy Tool from time to time. Not my fav. band, but sometimes if I want to listen to something deep, I love EAnima(sp?) and most of Laterlaus, and a few on Undertow. A sweet band when you're sky high and really listen to the music.

So what makes it such a bad CD? No one has really said what it's like. All they've said is that it sucks. Is it anything like their usual stuff? I'm just curious, that's all. :)

[stangle12]

PRIMUS SUCKS!

[CocaCola]

I haven't had the chance to even hear it yet, but I really enjoy Tool from time to time. Not my fav. band, but sometimes if I want to listen to something deep, I love EAnima(sp?) and most of Laterlaus, and a few on Undertow. A sweet band when you're sky high and really listen to the music.

So what makes it such a bad CD? No one has really said what it's like. All they've said is that it sucks. Is it anything like their usual stuff? I'm just curious, that's all. :)

You'd have to listen and decide for youself, dude. People keep asking me to explain how it sucks, but no one can explain how it's good either... so you're just gonna have to hear it for yourself. Like I said in my first post... Don't buy it right away, hear it first@!

[Polymirize]

PRIMUS SUCKS!

Hell yeah they do! But I think Frog Brigade sucks even harder...

[orange floyd]

i think ur a joke, the new tool album is pretty fucking good. adam's guitar work got a shitload better than from previous albums. rosetta stoned i think is the best song on the album, its obviously about some kind of bad trip and shows that they have a somewhat humorous side to their music. the song changes time signatures MANY times and has some pretty ill tabla in it. the pot, i dont see how anyone wouldnt like that, just listen to the bass in it its fuckin crazy. right in two has got to be one of their most meaninful (lyrically) songs ever.

[stangle12]

i dont knwo about adam being his BEST. but i truely like this album. i am partial to the pot though, the choral break down is fucking sawwweeet. "when you pissed all over my black ketal..." that part.

[stangle12]

Hell yeah they do! But I think Frog Brigade sucks even harder...
MMM FROG!

[ScarlettCrush]

PRIMUS SUCKS!


Blasphemer!!!!

pork soda is greatness.

[CocaCola]

i dont knwo about adam being his BEST. but i truely like this album. i am partial to the pot though, the choral break down is fucking sawwweeet. "when you pissed all over my black ketal..." that part.

After the second time he says that line... after the solo that follows... the part with the lyric "Leaving things out in the ground, trapped without a reason, leaving things out in the groundâ?¦ " is my favorite part of that song.

And there are a few parts in Rosetta Stoned that I thought were ok... "HOLY FUCKING SHIT!1" ect...

But I'm amazed at how everyone thinks this album is great... it's only mildly ok... it's listenable and far better then anything being shat out into the mainstream now, but damn Tool used to be elite... Not with this album.

[stangle12]

Blasphemer!!!!

pork soda is greatness.

silly girl primus sucks!!! (its there moto)

[eight]

Meh, maybe I won't get the new album then. I'll admit, I'm not a huge Tool fan. I listen mostly to different types of metal--mostly death metal, so they're actually not even in the genre with most of my other favorite bands (Necrophagist, Bloodbath, Meshuggah, Cephalic Carnage, etc).

I have Ã?nima and like it quite a bit though. I'll still at least download this album, get my own opinion on it. So maybe in your eyes I'll just be a "Tool fanboy," but oh well. Personally, I don't think I could ever really get into Tool, because as I said, they're not really my style.

Of course, drumming along to the Ã?nima CD is definately fun. :D

[CocaCola]

It's not that I hate Tool fanboys or anything... =\

[wes dawg]

Tool are my favorite band, one of the only bands I listen to these days as I'm mainly into drum and base. After all their previous albums bieng nearly flawless and then waiting for this one, then finally hearing it, well im fucking disapointed. It's a piece of shit, the overall production quality is far worse then I'd ever have expected from Tool.

Maybe it's a good thing when rockstars die young, at least their legacy can remain on without ruining it with a piece of shit like this.

I don't think tool made this album just for the money though, I think their skill as musicians has gone down slightly, well quite alot actually.

[stangle12]

the new album had the best artwork i've EVER seen. PERIOD.
i agree, they didnt do this album just for the money. I can site this for two reasons. the first being this album cost 10$. the second being most bands (almost all) make their money from touring.

[fikusroot]

You people need to understand why this album sucked. They are still just as good if not better musicians than before. But what happens is now that their sucessful, they have had a freedom to experiment a little and when you experiment in music you always run the risk of making crap. I highly doubt they just said fuck it, we're famous and can make a half ass album.

[fikusroot]

the new album had the best artwork i've EVER seen. PERIOD.
i agree, they didnt do this album just for the money. I can site this for two reasons. the first being this album cost 10$. the second being most bands (almost all) make their money from touring.
Like the beatles

[CocaCola]

You people need to understand why this album sucked. They are still just as good if not better musicians than before. But what happens is now that their sucessful, they have had a freedom to experiment a little and when you experiment in music you always run the risk of making crap. I highly doubt they just said fuck it, we're famous and can make a half ass album.
Agreed. But still experimenting how? Influence from Meshuggah? Nah... I think it was very half-assed even for a experimental album. It's clear that it's experimental, but that's not why it sucks.

And why wouldn't they do it for money... they want money... they need to put out a new album to attract their fans to their shows... It's always for money.

[CocaCola]

You people need to understand why this album sucked. They are still just as good if not better musicians than before. But what happens is now that their sucessful, they have had a freedom to experiment a little and when you experiment in music you always run the risk of making crap. I highly doubt they just said fuck it, we're famous and can make a half ass album.
Agreed. But still experimenting how? Influence from Meshuggah? Nah... I think it was very half-assed even for a experimental album. It's clear that it's experimental, but that's not why it sucks.

And why wouldn't they do it for money... they want money... they need to put out a new album to attract their fans to their shows... It's always for money.

And this server can fucking suck my nads. WTF is with this busy server bullshit? For fuck sakes, delete this shit.

[benagain]

Maybe the rest of the band needs the $ but MJK should be set. He's been keeping busy with A perfect Circle and doing pretty well at it.

[yoda]

im listening to it now, its a pretty good cd, i wouldnt say their best, but its still pretty good. hopefully ill like it more the more i listen to it.

[lateralus]

Oh yeah, and way to avoid every aspect of my post regarding Tool and their new and shitty album. I like that... it's like you can't accept it or you you can't see it for the shit it is because hey, it's TOOOOL the greatest band ever!1 They probably still are one of the best but it seems to me that they like to fuck around with you sheep and that's hopefully what this album is... an actual joke... because man it sucks... the concept is lost... and the fact that it's constructed as a concept album makes it all the more funny. Directionless Tool wankery for the fan boys.

Don't make any response to the intent of my posts in this thread people, because then you'll be going against Tool!1 Insted try and weasel your way around what I'm saying and comment on what I'm doing or how I'm acting... that will get you're point across the rest of fan boys, that "Tool rules and what this crazy person is saying isn't true Tool rules".Well, this is quite a coincidence to return to this site looking specifically for a thread about the new Tool album and see someone whom I know to be a fan trash them.

I'll admit, I don't pay for any music, and although I'd like to support the band, I just can't bring myself to fork out an enormous sum of money such as $15 or $20 dollars. Even such a legendary event as the release of this much anticipated album is no exception. I found a torrent from isohunt and quickly burned myself a copy a few hours ago, and am currently about to finish the album for the first time.

I haven't even listened to the lyrics as I'm just absorbing the music and reading reviews right now, but I can tell you that from reading about the contents of some of the songs that you may be correct about the concept of this album being a joke. As a matter of fact, the idea had been floating around my head since I'd begun to read. I honestly wouldn't put it past the band. I'll analyze some of the lyrics and get back to you if you're up for a discussion.

And excuse the fact that I've only read the first couple of posts if I missed anything.

[Tmar.aLL.DaYmar]

Anti-trend... ahahaha... Tool does rule... their new album is fucking stupid. And people are still going buy it and like it and say "Oh, well it took a few listens for it to grow on me". Bah, you're all idiots.

so your saying tool released this load to separate their real fans from the scene kids?

[ScarlettCrush]

I like tool, I've liked them for a while (ogt, back in '92, from the first EP)

I'll buy this cd, because I like this band and I beleive in supporting artists. If it sucks, then it does and that is ok because I like them and I wouldn't drop them or talk shit about them just because of a few bad judgement calls.
I have a friend who is a musician, he's sung a few bad notes, written some hokey songs...but we are still friends.

Tool has three groundbreaking cd's that came out and blew everone away, the music industry and fans have been waiting for this new album and expectations are so high for it to be the next savior. To meet everyone's expectations this album would have to get you high, do your dishes and give you head to be better than the other three and even if it did all those things there would still be dicks out there critisizing the high, the housework and how awkward you feel the next day after having sex with your cd. I think I'd like to make my own mind up about this new thing without taking the hyper critical anti-fan approach.

[lateralus]

And excuse the fact that I've only read the first couple of posts if I missed anything.Like, for example, the entire conversation. :rolleyes:
if you know the Tool FAQ well enough, you might notice all the contradictions in this "10,000 Days". (LOL)I haven't yet read the Tool FAQ (I'll put it on my todo list), but I managed to see said contradictions anyway.

First of all, how much of the album is spoken from a fervently Christian point of view? A lot of us remember the April Fool's joke in 2005, with the Kurt Loder MTV fiasco (haha) in which Maynard announced that he'd 'found Jesus'. Much to Kurt Loder's -and any other reporter dumb enough to accept it as fact- chagrin, it turned out to be a big laugh. Secondly, any APC fan will, if he'd been paying attention, refer you to:
Youâ??re such an inspiration for the ways
That Iâ??ll never ever choose to be
Oh so many ways for me to show you
How the savior has abandoned you
Fuck your god
Your lord and your christ
He did this
Took all you had and
Left you this way
Still you pray, you never stray
Never taste of the fruit
You never thought to question why

Itâ??s not like you killed someone
Itâ??s not like you drove a hateful spear into his side
Praise the one who left you
Broken down and paralyzed

He did it all for you
He did it all for you


Oh so many many ways for me to show you
How your dogma has abandoned you
Pray to your christ, to your god
Never taste of the fruit
Never stray, never break
Never---choke on a lie
Even though heâ??s the one who did this to you
You never thought to question why

Not like you killed someone
Itâ??s not like you drove a spiteful spear into his side
Talk to jesus christ
As if he knows the reasons why
He did it all for you
Did it all for you
He did it all for you..which entirely contradicts the whole point of tracks three and four of the new album.
Why does it need to grow on you before you start to like it... what a shitty way to "appreciate" music... and yet almost everyone does it.Well, I'd been hearing Tool on the radio for years, all the while blatantly loathing their sound. It wasn't until I decided to really give them a try a couple years ago that I got into the band and started to truly appreciate the intracacies of their lyrics and sound, so I definitely have to disagree with you here. In fact, I think you even contradicted yourself in that paragraph:
no wonder no one can hear that Tool's new album sucks. I doubt most of you even really listen to the music and how it's put together... all you hear is a song with a title...right here. If you're expected to like it after only a single listen, how can you possibly hear all of the subtleties in music of this kind (which is part of the reason I became interested)? Sure, someone with an incredibly analytic ear might be able to sort of pull this off, but not your average Joe. (i.e., most of us)

Get over Tool so that maybe they'll stop fucking around and put out a good album. Not a decent one...
I only wish the band could admit it themselves and end this whole thing but why would they want to do that when they can put out any product they shit out of they're rusty assholes and make money off a bunch of idiots.I doubt Tool will come out and admit any such thing, and it's quite a shame they don't do more interviews. I even read somewhere that the band avoids, as much as possible, reading fan reviews of their music so as not to influence their ego or music. Come to think of it, what about their Meshuggah influence? So much for not influencing their music. :) I heard a few parts that may have been influenced by Meshuggah (Catch 33), but they could've just as easily been 100% Tool. Wherever the supposed influence lies, in my opinion, it's subtle.
And all those gay solos?? I mean, what the hell has Adam thinking? Awesome effects... could have been used welll but nope... WAHHH WAAOOHHH WHEEEE WAHHHH WIDDILY WAAAOHHHAHHH...I agree. Those kinds of solos are far from innovative and have been done a million times, but I wonder if they've ever been as drawn out and boring as in these instances. Have you ever listened to The Doors - The End? A substantial piece of one of the tracks (if memory serves, track four) is spookily reminiscent of pieces of that song going as far as to even completely recycle the drum beat.
Why must people delve so DEEP into music and the bands info. Know all the shit about them, who thier mom is, what they did in 4th grade. Just fucking listen to the music you like. SimpleTo truly attempt to obtain even an inkling of understanding of what Tool intended to convey, you can't just 'fucking listen to the music'. For example, Maynard strongly hints of Jungian psychological theory, and, I mean, I don't know about you, but Jungian theory isn't exactly my typical, mundane dinner-table conversation topic. Read the beginning of my post for another example.
And there are a few parts in Rosetta Stoned that I thought were ok... "HOLY FUCKING SHIT!1" ect...I think the song sounds great after "You had better, you'd better listen". Really great, actually. Still, I've written songs of greater complexity in a half an hour.
Sunkist and Sudafed, goddamn, shit the bed? Oh so you're fucking Meth fiend now? What is the point? And what does Rosetta Stoned mean? Is that a character in this story?I don't know who the hell Rosetta is, but you do realize Rosetta Stoned is a continuation of the previous song, right? It isn't the only instance of such two-part pieces in the CD, and to tell you the truth, I enjoy the transitions between the the intro/conclusions (3&4 is the other one).. At first, I thought 'Rosetta' was the narrator, but.. in the previous track, the doctor repeatedly refers to the patient as a male, and I assume Rosetta is a feminine name, but who knows.. Whoever is narrating, though, somehow wanders or is taken into a hospital, and tells his/her story of being the unlikely candidate for an alien encounter in which he is surprised to hear that the "E motherfucking T" chooses him to deliver some kind of very deep message indeed, to whoever will listen. What was the message? Oops, he forgot. :rolleyes:

It seems, at times, that the album is building this incredible crescendo in order to climax with this awe-inspiring, emotional, epic, intellectual brilliance that we all expected, but most of the crescendos seem to lead to either an overly extended plateau of boringness or a sore disappointment in the form of a very lame -but heavy- guitar riff. I always think of Wings for Marie and 10,000 Days when I think of this.. the former had some very nice, I thought, moments (actually, the moments I'm talking about are duplicated in the song after it, toward the end), and I loved the intro to 10,000 Days. I love that bassline, and that thunder is effective.. there's so much potential in that song.. you get the feeling you're about to witness something phenomenal, 'cause after all, it's Tool damn it - and the song doesn't go anywhere. After all the bashing, though, I still appreciate and enjoy the album despite its lulls and repetitive disappointments.

I know I forgot to include something. I *always* do.

[lateralus]

Maybe "The Pot" is about www.cannabis.com. Perhaps he anticipated our bitching, and he is the true genius prophet who can do no wrong after all, and we should all drop down and worship the lord and disappointing albums. Yes.. yes, I think it's evident that this is what Maynard intended.. Hallelujah, FINALLY the instant higher moral ground I was looking for!
Who are you to wave your finger?-Puts finger down in a humble manner, yes-

[alonepsycho]

Holy shit I got tired of reading. Just wanted to put in my $0.02. The new Tool album does not suck, but it is obviously not their best work. They JUST got back together; maybe they're not in the groove yet. I heard "Vicarious" and "The Pot" live at Coachella Music Festival. During the beginning of "The Pot", there were some boo's and some expressions of disapproval. But those ended as soon as the guitars started up. And "Pork Soda" is, indeed, the shit.

[God v2.0]

omg i downloaded the new album and it sounds like shit, i downloaded it because i heard tool was a good band but if they sound even remotely like they did in 10,000 days then they suck. HARD.

but seriously, i usually like all music but i couldn't finish even a single song on that album because they were all SO bad.
honestly i cant even hear any variation in their tone/beat/sounds and thats saying alot cause im a pothead who LOVES music.


so my opinion is that the new tool album is for tools.

[Ae...]

Never understood the hype with this band. The music kind of bores me although I enjoy their clay-mation music videos on mute. I dunno man maybe I haven't heard the right songs by them.

[stangle12]

alot of times there is one song that 'opens the door' to a person for tool.
for me it was schism. until i heard that song i was much like you. once i had my in...then you see it from the inside out. and then you fall over in amazement.

[lateralus]

Like I said.
Well, I'd been hearing Tool on the radio for years, all the while blatantly loathing their sound. It wasn't until I decided to really give them a try a couple years ago that I got into the band and started to truly appreciate the intracacies of their lyrics and soundSo yeah. I still don't understand how they managed to become so mainstream, though, even though they're my favorite band.

[ScarlettCrush]

alot of times there is one song that 'opens the door' to a person for tool.
for me it was schism. until i heard that song i was much like you. once i had my in...then you see it from the inside out. and then you fall over in amazement.

for me- prison sex
until I heard that song.....I hadn't been paying any attention.

[CocaCola]

For me? The first song I heard was Lateralus on the radio... loved it but didn't catch the name. Then saw Parabola on MuchMusic and loved it... didn't even know that both songs were from the same band.

Bought Lateralus... bought Aenima then Undertow and finally Opiate. I am not picking up 10,000 Days though... not because I think it sucks... not only... but also, cause I'm sick of paying 25-30$ for a CD.

[enthused]

I like the new album. Sure lateralus is my favorite, but 10000 days is up there with it. I don't know why people waste time bashing music. If you don't like it, don't listen to it. Thats one of the reasons I don't read reviews, because no one is me and I probably have a different opinion in every aspect.

[benagain]

I got to listen to it a bit more and I like it. Call be crazy but I do. Not the best, but still good.

[MissKatherineA]

you have no depth to your opinion. all your saying is that it sucks (it doesnt even sound like you gave it a chance) and yeah, some people get all into it, but they're just excited. It takes time for people to check their expectations at the door...even if they are low. everyone gets their own feel for it, and it becomes just another chapter.
so what im sayin is. CHill the fuck out, check your expectations (and your ego) at the door

I am a classic case of having ZERO expectations and fucking LOVING this song! I haven't listend to the whole album yet - I can't stop playing The Pot over and over again, I think it's so amazing - I have never really listened to Tool much before, but that's about to change. My husband agrees with most of you and thinks it sucks, but it totally blows my mind. :D

[MissKatherineA]

the new album had the best artwork i've EVER seen. PERIOD.


Also agree - I should have probobly just downloaded The Pot but I'm so glad I bought the actual album - the packaging and art is so cool. I like Pearl Jam's album art too, still a reason to shop at record stores> :) :) :)

[stangle12]

I am a classic case of having ZERO expectations and fucking LOVING this song! I haven't listend to the whole album yet - I can't stop playing The Pot over and over again, I think it's so amazing - I have never really listened to Tool much before, but that's about to change. My husband agrees with most of you and thinks it sucks, but it totally blows my mind. :D

i agree. the pot is my favorite song from that album.
the way the chorus breaks down n grooves it like that...aaahhh i love it.
so who are you to wave your finger??? SO FULL OF IT!
Eyeballs deap in muddy water...fucking hypocrit.
YEAH MAN!

[MaryJaneScott]

Has anyone tried/heard this??

http://spo0nman.blogspot.com/2006/05/more-on-10000-days.html

[Stellar]

Please, the band doesn't want you to support this album... download it and hear it for yourself. Listen to the grand scheme... It's literally a joke, isn't it? I mean, it sounds like it... it's abysmal. Especially for a Tool album, it's REALLY bad. And Vicarious sounds like Schism reversed... gay.

If you buy this album, you're not Tool fan... you're a Tool fan boy, and the band doesn't like you.

The best part of the album is the mantra chanted during Intension and that's the only part that seems to have any thought put into it... well, it all seems like it does... but it's quite funny... if you know the Tool FAQ well enough, you might notice all the contradictions in this "10,000 Days". (LOL)

I notice it feels like it really lacks any sort of energy, imo. Ane, Under, and Lat felt charged and there was something cool in the way they made the music... 10,000 is a bunch of overplayed notes for songs... Little to none of the innovative sudden tempo changes... But there are tempo changes... That seem added in or developed because that's what they knew everyone expects... or something. Dunno... A lot of the tracks just don't impress me... the whole set just carries a sort of sedated or subdued feel to it. I found myself wondering if they were on too much or too little drugs for this one.

Might be good if I were on heroin all day and didn't want any sudden surprises like good music to startle me, but I really haven't played any of the tracks since the week I d/l'd em all, tbh. I can't say you're bad for buying this album... I can just say that you should have downloaded it, because it gets old fast, unless you're on opium all the live long day... I spent a couple days on an opium bender and I thought the album was pretty ok. Tracks got old even during it, though, imo.

Then again... Some people love everything about it, on the same token... I guess its a polarizing type of thing they did, this time around. Its not that I wanted them to do one particular thing... Some of 10,000 is great and I liked it, just not what I really wanted, if you can dig that.

I like more energy in my music than what 10,000 gives me, here. But, who knows where they are going with it. 10,000 is definately something new, and I still look forward to more Tool. Last verdict on 10,000 would be 'disappointing' from me, however. Then again, it was free.

[yabatab]

I met a boy wearing vans, 501s, and a
Dope beastie t, nipple rings, and
New tattoos that claimed that he
Was ogt,
From 92,
The first ep.

And in between
Sips of coke
He told me that
He thought
We were sellin out,
Layin down,
Suckin up
To the man.

Well now Ive got some
A-dvice for you, little buddy.
Before you point the finger
You should know that
Im the man,

And if Im the man,
Then youre the man, and
Hes the man as well so you can
Point that fuckin finger up your ass.

All you know about me is what Ive sold you,
Dumb fuck.
I sold out long before you ever heard my name.

I sold my soul to make a record,
Dip shit,
And you bought one.

So Ive got some
Advice for you, little buddy.
Before you point your finger
You should know that
Im the man,
If Im the fuckin man
Then youre the fuckin man as well
So you can
Point that fuckin finger up your ass.

All you know about me is what Ive sold you,
Dumb fuck.
I sold out long before you ever heard my name.

I sold my soul to make a record,
Dip shit,
And you bought one.

All you read and
Wear or see and
Hear on tv
Is a product
Begging for your
Fatass dirty
Dollar

So...shut up and

Buy my new record
Send more money
Fuck you, buddy.


This song explains it all you are a dip shit for
buying any commercial product music or other
wise. And he told you they sold out.

[Stellar]

Hooker with a penis ftw tbh

[Nochowderforyou]

hi,

It took me a few listens to get into the new CD. I never hated it at all when I first got it, but I never got into it until a few weeks later. I can say that it is some of their best work and I can't get enough of it.

One thing that I don't like is all of the filler noise on the album. They have about 6 tracks that are actually songs, but the 11min aND 9MIN TRACKS make up for that (caps, sorry :)) I just hate the tracks are nothing but 2-4min of noise. It's pointless, and unentertaining.

I love the second track on the CD, and Right in Two. Towards the end it gets so heavy, fast and crazy. I love how Tool can start out a song sounding like Pink Floyd, and end a track sounding like Slayerish, kinda.

Bye.

[Peach.Optimo.Bluntz]

RIP FUCKIN DIME BAG DARREL 1966 - 2004 fuck the bitch that shot him.

ha i grew up on Pantera, slayer, megadeth, Metallica, sepultura, etc etc. Literally! grew up on it!. Thats why i can be such an angry person some times... atleast i think.

[poorprincess]

I love every SECOND of the new tool album. I'm not a fanboy. I dont even own a tool album. I just fucking love it.

[poorprincess]

hi,
One thing that I don't like is all of the filler noise on the album. They have about 6 tracks that are actually songs, but the 11min aND 9MIN TRACKS make up for that (caps, sorry :)) I just hate the tracks are nothing but 2-4min of noise. It's pointless, and unentertaining.



Lost Keys and Rossetta Stoned are parts I and II of a story. Listen as if you were the man the doctor is speaking to, and the noise is whats going on in your head. The noise gets more complicated and louder as the people around you come into focus.

I didn't get it at first but when I did it was insane.

[poorprincess]

"the pot" isn't about cannibus it's about hypocrites, the pot calling the kettle black...

10,000 days is how long Maynards mother took to die and the songs "wings for marie" and "10,000 days" are about his mother.

I think "intencion" and "right in two" are connected to the same idea about the purely primitive part of man.

But aside from all the hidden meaning that seems to have been lost on some of even Tools biggest fans. I'm fairly surtain, that Tool doesn't care that you hate them. It's ART. They want the people who understand it to see it's beauty, and the people who dont understand it dont have to.

I fuckin hate the mona lisa but I dont bitch about it cuz Da vinci is dead and he doesn't give a shit and I bet when he was alive he wouldn't have given a shit.

[poorprincess]

Lost Keys and Rossetta Stoned are parts I and II of a story. Listen as if you were the man the doctor is speaking to, and the noise is whats going on in your head. The noise gets more complicated and louder as the people around you come into focus.

I didn't get it at first but when I did it was insane.

p.s. it's not about the lyrics or the music, it's about a combination of both.

[poorprincess]

Has anyone tried/heard this??

http://spo0nman.blogspot.com/2006/05/more-on-10000-days.html

I'm doing this right now with winamp and windows media player at the same time. It fucking rocks. Is it possible that they did this on purpose? What other shit do they do that nobody notices?! I read somewhere that the four pictures of the band members from the 10000 days art are some kind of puzzle that once put together just makes ANOTHER puzzle.

[downcard11]

i just got into tool and i like 10,000 days just as much as lateralus and aenima. i like it better than undertow. right in two, 10,000 days, and vicarious are great, and jambi and the pot are good as well.

[thcbongman]

I see what Cola is saying. This has an entirely different feel than Aenima and Lateralus. Structurally it seems shoddy compared to their earlier works.

I can't say it sucks, but it isn't what I expected from Tool. I like a few songs, like The Pot and Wings For Marie (part 1.) I can't indulge in 10,000 days like other Tool albums.

[enthused]

I think this is one of the best albums I've heard in a while. Rosetta Stoned is my favorite song.

[downcard11]

I think this is one of the best albums I've heard in a while. Rosetta Stoned is my favorite song.

Weird, that is the only song on the album I can't stand. I never listen to it.

[poorprincess]

There isn't a second of silence on this album that I dont like.

[dejayou30]

i wouldn't say tool sucks, because they are amazing musicians. they just aren't my cup of tea and all their songs sound too similar to me. i have all their albums though. the new one is alright. there's a couple songs that are pretty sweet. and the fact that two of the songs match up with one when played in different media players at the same time. and the 3D album art viewing thing (my roomate bought the CD). and the puzzle thing you have to "figure out" where the pictures are like reflections or taken from different spots in the room. everything done by the band. they are far from suck.