MOBAY PLEASE HELP

[GrowinGreen23]

hey anyone really.... i'm looking for plans on building a hydro setup like MOBAY described in the thread that was moved to the FAQ section, he has a 14 pot setup but i'm looking for one for a bottom of a closet and holds around 4 plants max, i've read a few books on it but none really talk aout a fogger and stuff liek that, i'm tryign to make it myself and keep it relativly cheap if i can or as much as possible

can someone please help me out here??

Thanks
Growingreen23

[BlueDragonSmoke]

So you want to use a fogger ? no drip or bubble? The fogger its self i would think would be the highest... Cheap would be bubble, 4 buckets, 4 net pots, lava rock.....Last time i bought a fogger for my 200 gal. frog tank it was like $50 + i think , 2 air pumps would be cheaper....sorry if this doesnt help much ...peace

[GrowinGreen23]

yeah but i'm limited for space and can't do gallon buckets at the present moment so i figured the fogger type with the rubber maid containers woudl be easier...but idk anyone else have some insight that can help me?

[the image reaper]

wouldn't you have the room to use one or two of these ? :
http://www.hydroponics.net/c/88

just my opinion, but if you dont even have room for a one-gallon bucket, you won't pull enough bud to fill a thimble ... :smokin:

[GrowinGreen23]

i have thr omm but it's ina closet and lugging around gallon buckets is a little suspecious where i'm at so if you move in a big rubber maid tub and do the work there then it's all good and i need soemthign semi quite

thanks for ther info so far guys

Growingreen23

[GrowinGreen23]

bump anyone......please :-(

[mobay]

sorry about that GG23 i been away for awhile , but now iam back. let me get you the info you need brb.

[mobay]

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[mobay]

now with this unit you dont have to worry about making your tubes to work properly or anything . just set your plants in it and go. another good thing about it is that you can use 4 of the holes to the right and if you want you could take cuttings and place them in the other holes. hope this helps . holla back

[BlueDragonSmoke]

That set up kicks ass...thats what i was talking about GG23 , thats what I have but smaller, 2 totes, 6 pot each in them , one for veg one for bud both and 2 air rocks in each and both are drip also bubbles 24/7 drip 15 min/hour its kicking ass so far , mobay posted the same thing for me and i ran with the idea and went to wall mart...lol BUT if you do make it homade you will fight with the tubing and the drippers a little like mobay said " thats what im going through right now " it was fun making it and a learning good time ...peace

[GrowinGreen23]

yes this is exactly what i want but i need to kwo the components of it, i want to maeka smaller version cause i have limited space and well i just don't need 14 plants for that matter want to make it around 4 plants if that, i saw in the FAQ section you had that yours had a fog system? am i correct? it's liek a drip and fog all in one but i need to knwo what type of fogger is in there and what size pump cause i'm sorta looking to make my own

[mobay]

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A benefit of our Aeroponic fogger is that it generates extremely small micro droplets that averages only 4 microns, which is small enough to be absorbed by roots and leaves on contact, which is why it can be effective using only an ultra low volume of solution. In fact, most growers report optimal results with only half the concentration of nutrient solution they've used in the past!


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[mobay]

you can make a 1-5 hole res. from a rubbermaid tub. just get some 3in net pots and place them on top of the lid and trace the circle out and cut it with an utility knife. go to the fish aquarium store and get a large airstone/ with pump. go to lowes or home depot and get a submergable pump and get your hoses from there as well. now the thing is to try and find those drippers. good luck on that one there. and you can order your fogger for here. get some replacement disc for the fogger, they last for about 2-3 months.

http://futuregarden.com/hydroponics/systems_nutramist.html

[GrowinGreen23]

thanks mobay, now you saw the fogger works with a limited or 1/2 the amount of soultion like the water or the nutrient you add, for example you added1 Table sppon for every gallon in a regualr system here you would only add about half a table spoon per gallon? Also is the pump for the fog submerged or does it float? the air stone is hooked on the pump you get from HD or is that seperate and powered by the aquarium pump? the HD pump is used to pump the drippers

Sorry it's so many questions i just wan tto get this all clear before i start to bild one then need help while i'm doign it, now with these 3" pots i can grow them until i harvest or only in a veg state, thn i move them to soil? Hoep you can answer these questions

Al the help you gave so far has been great!

growingreen23

[GrowinGreen23]

o yeah what should a typical drip be set at for the 1st start of growth? adn at the end i guess it depends on the size of the plant?

[mobay]

1st two separate pumps. 1 for the air and 1 submergable pumps.
2nd i used the general hydrponics feeding chart on my last grow and followed the measurements.
3rd the fogger floats.
4th yes the HD pump is for the drippers.
5th yes you can grow all the way through with the 3 inch net pots, did you see the pics on my Big Bud grow , it was in the 3 inch pots.
6th i kept my drip on continiously , just dont let it drip right on the plants , aim it to the side of the plants.

hope that helped, if not holla.

[mobay]

this is my feeding chart. gro , micro, and bloom is all i used.


http://www.genhydro.com/genhydro_US/GH_Feed-Chart.pdf

[GrowinGreen23]

good stuf thanks again hopefully i can get somethign goign over the summer and start it up real soon. Just wondering when did you start to flower your ladies and what kind of light were you using? i have CFLs now but if i can i mean i can possibly get another type of light system, i'm stuck in the closet for now though and i mean heat woudl be a problem in there i'm thinking since i can't cut holes in the wood....any suggestions or do you think i can go with a few more lights and be good????

[GrowinGreen23]

o yeah how far are the pots held above the water and howmany gallons should be put in to make it work effectivly?

[mobay]

i grew in my closet at one point , and what i did was cut a 4 inch hole in the ceiling which lead to the attic and ran a dryer hose up there and on the end of it was my 265cfm exhaust fan. and if you go hps i would get a air cooled hood so you would just hook the other end of the dryer hose to the hood and that will take all the heat out.

6 inches from the top of my res is were i set my water level. get your tub and mark off where 6 inches would be from the top and fill the res up , using gallon jugs so you will know how much nutes to add in per gallon.

i started to flower when they were 1 ft tall. hydro that is.

in soil i vegged for 1 week and threw her ass into flowering.

[mobay]

i dont know what size your closet is but maybe you can look into one of these.

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[mobay]

http://www.hydroponicdiscount.com/growlights.cfm

[GrowinGreen23]

thanks for the info my closet is about 2 1/2' x 4-5' of actaul grow space, it's in a dorm style apartment so i can't really cut anything! does this light have minimal heat and electric use? or is it prety high i have a good size fan runnign now and i mean the air escapes up top naturally through the seams but light can't enter there from how i have it set up, can i use CFLs for nwo or should/could i look in to this type of light?

Thaks for you help Mobay, everythign has helped a lot so far

[mobay]

yes you can use cfl's iam vegging with one now. and i also used the 125w warm cfl in my other grow, with my 400w hps. the buds that grew under the cfl looked the same as the buds that were under the 400w hps.

[GrowinGreen23]

yeah i just want to know, i would be using them for both veg and flowering, now in your one part you said to measure the water 6 inches to 1' abouve the res, are they covering the basket on any part? or will the fogger do they work of keeping them good? or do i have to mark that somewhere else? thaks for you help

GG23

[mobay]

6 inches from the top of the res. mark off where that will be , so you can have that for the future. no the pot will not be setting in the water only the roots. the fogger will be hitting the new roots as they are developing, making the plants become massive.

[GrowinGreen23]

Thanks again...now i'm excited!!

GG23