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GetBakedOrDieTryin
04-23-2006, 07:43 PM
also does anybody have any experince with a vaporizer especally a vapezilla?

GetBakedOrDieTryin
04-23-2006, 07:45 PM
wtf, post screwed up, Anyways i heard that a vaporizer can get 3-4 the times of thc in ur lungs per hit, then a pipe can, because the flame u put on the pipe destroys most of the thc turning it into smoke, and that when u inhale it, u only get 25%.

chaywoo
04-23-2006, 08:18 PM
i would say that the thc content is much higher near the end of the vaporizing bowl than at the beginning, its important to understand that at the beginning of a bowl u have more flavor than thc, but near the end, less flavor and more thc.. the stone comes on slower, but is a pure stone, and u can get much more stoned with vaporizing than u can with smoking and that is because the toxic chemicals cause the haze part of the stone associated with smoking, and the more one smokes, the more the haze part of the stone overtakes the actuall stone thus limiting the stone experience... with a vaporizer u can keep puffing away until u are completely silly, and still be able to enjoy the stone without the haze trying to close your eyes. and in the pure stone category, your eyes are simply relaxed and smiling.. i havent heard too much about the vapezilla and the super vapezilla, but from what i can gather about them so far, i think it is a little soon to be investing in one of those, but if u want a vaporizer that has withstood the test of time, at least a few years, then get the AroMed, otherwise u could be taking a real gamble with your money... i myself already lost 275$ on crapy vaporizers, and finally i spent 400$ saying, this thing better be the one... and sure enough, it sure is.. i understand the supervapezilla won the cannibis cup 2005, and i think that is because AroMed cant win every year, they do need to have something new win.. i think the AroMed won in 02... and with that many years of existance, i havent seen one complaint on the internet about them, have u?

GetBakedOrDieTryin
04-23-2006, 11:26 PM
i would say that the thc content is much higher near the end of the vaporizing bowl than at the beginning, its important to understand that at the beginning of a bowl u have more flavor than thc, but near the end, less flavor and more thc.. the stone comes on slower, but is a pure stone, and u can get much more stoned with vaporizing than u can with smoking and that is because the toxic chemicals cause the haze part of the stone associated with smoking, and the more one smokes, the more the haze part of the stone overtakes the actuall stone thus limiting the stone experience... with a vaporizer u can keep puffing away until u are completely silly, and still be able to enjoy the stone without the haze trying to close your eyes. and in the pure stone category, your eyes are simply relaxed and smiling.. i havent heard too much about the vapezilla and the super vapezilla, but from what i can gather about them so far, i think it is a little soon to be investing in one of those, but if u want a vaporizer that has withstood the test of time, at least a few years, then get the AroMed, otherwise u could be taking a real gamble with your money... i myself already lost 275$ on crapy vaporizers, and finally i spent 400$ saying, this thing better be the one... and sure enough, it sure is.. i understand the supervapezilla won the cannibis cup 2005, and i think that is because AroMed cant win every year, they do need to have something new win.. i think the AroMed won in 02... and with that many years of existance, i havent seen one complaint on the internet about them, have u?where can i purchase the aromed? and even thoughy vapzilla won the awards can mean it's still not that good? which one would u perfer vapezilla or aromed?

Fan o KmK
04-23-2006, 11:54 PM
dude vapes are sick and all but theres something you have to understand. your throwing away most of the smoking lifestyle. no more fat bong rips, no more everlasting cherries, no more milky white hotboxes, its just a machine, and vapor. you have to decide if its worth it.

1234abcd
04-24-2006, 12:20 AM
Get a Volcano. They are around $550 on ebay but well worth it...I've tried one and I am saving up for one. I am going straight for the best!

But yeah..Im sure I will still hit the bong too, but I want to get used to vaporizing more.

RubberSoul
04-24-2006, 12:21 AM
dude vapes are sick and all but theres something you have to understand. your throwing away most of the smoking lifestyle. no more fat bong rips, no more everlasting cherries, no more milky white hotboxes, its just a machine, and vapor. you have to decide if its worth it.

I absolutely agree

GetBakedOrDieTryin
04-24-2006, 12:24 AM
Get a Volcano. They are around $550 on ebay but well worth it...I've tried one and I am saving up for one. I am going straight for the best!

But yeah..Im sure I will still hit the bong too, but I want to get used to vaporizing more.you've heard good things about the volcano?

1234abcd
04-24-2006, 01:46 AM
yeah, IMO the top vaporizer out there. There is another one that is expensive 600+, but I forgot the name..Im going for the Volcano! It blows up this bag, then you make an O with your fist and inhale, the fresh aroma of your herbs...and smooth ass taste, no coughing and shit..Im just getting really sick of coughing and I want to smoke in my room...vaporizing smells like air..no smoke..but its DEF a different high..thats why Im still gonna keep my bong, and probably take a rip or two a day , because we all know nothing gets us high than that water bong!

GetBakedOrDieTryin
04-24-2006, 02:09 AM
yeah, IMO the top vaporizer out there. There is another one that is expensive 600+, but I forgot the name..Im going for the Volcano! It blows up this bag, then you make an O with your fist and inhale, the fresh aroma of your herbs...and smooth ass taste, no coughing and shit..Im just getting really sick of coughing and I want to smoke in my room...vaporizing smells like air..no smoke..but its DEF a different high..thats why Im still gonna keep my bong, and probably take a rip or two a day , because we all know nothing gets us high than that water bong!what kind of different high does vape give vs bong/pipe?

1234abcd
04-24-2006, 02:16 AM
i would say that the thc content is much higher near the end of the vaporizing bowl than at the beginning, its important to understand that at the beginning of a bowl u have more flavor than thc, but near the end, less flavor and more thc.. the stone comes on slower, but is a pure stone, and u can get much more stoned with vaporizing than u can with smoking and that is because the toxic chemicals cause the haze part of the stone associated with smoking, and the more one smokes, the more the haze part of the stone overtakes the actuall stone thus limiting the stone experience... with a vaporizer u can keep puffing away until u are completely silly, and still be able to enjoy the stone without the haze trying to close your eyes. and in the pure stone category, your eyes are simply relaxed and smiling.. i havent heard too much about the vapezilla and the super vapezilla, but from what i can gather about them so far, i think it is a little soon to be investing in one of those, but if u want a vaporizer that has withstood the test of time, at least a few years, then get the AroMed, otherwise u could be taking a real gamble with your money... i myself already lost 275$ on crapy vaporizers, and finally i spent 400$ saying, this thing better be the one... and sure enough, it sure is.. i understand the supervapezilla won the cannibis cup 2005, and i think that is because AroMed cant win every year, they do need to have something new win.. i think the AroMed won in 02... and with that many years of existance, i havent seen one complaint on the internet about them, have u?


This dude explains it best, I have'nt even' vaped that much, because I can never afford to buy a damn good one, and always buying bud instead. BUT go for the best, and it'll save your lungs and you can have it for the rest of your life, ESP a good one like VOLCANO. LOL I like work for volcano it seems like ,but I just fucking love their product, esp. the 2006 model.

I've only used the volcano once, and it was far superior to anything I've used in the past. I only smoke top quality shit, so I would love to taste the flavor more of smoking it, and not tasting all the aromas I can be, plus you can absorb a ton of THC , and its a healthier high than using a bong, but I just took two bong rips, some kush and purple, man Im baked..I dont think I'll ever stop using the bong, but I will cut back, like 2 rips a day, instead of 9.

1234abcd
04-24-2006, 02:19 AM
what kind of different high does vape give vs bong/pipe?

Its a totally different high, alot weaker in my opinion, well compared to bongs, I dont used pipes that often because I find them to be fucking harsh , and they dont get me NEAR as high as my 2 ft water bong

But I guess if you get a good one, have a nice few sessions in your room, you will probably be baked out of your mother fucking mind...I think Vaporizing helps you get the most THC out of your bud. Hey can you vaporize hash???

Killa Milla
04-24-2006, 02:24 AM
I thought that the vapes had a pretty low efficiency rating, there was an article I read. Maybe I'm wrong.

Fengzi
04-24-2006, 05:38 PM
I read that article too but I think that was pretty old and they were using the older BC Vaporizer style conduction vaps. A convection vap, where hot air is pulled through the weed, seems to be very efficient from what I have seen I use a Vapor Brothers vap and it works great. I end up using a lot less weed with it than if I were smoking so I assume it is more efficient than smoking.

The key is to get a good vap. Forget anything under $100. They're all crap.

chaywoo
04-24-2006, 07:07 PM
I have found one place in the usa that sells the AroMed, and that is vaposcience.com, or a search on the internet can reveal others as well, but i dont think they are here in the usa, as far as Vaporizers that use balloons i would caution further consideration simply because the balloons' inner surface absorbs thc never to be replaced.. i tried the balloon experience with a vapir, and it was a disaster for me. wasted lots of vapor swithing from filling one balloon to another... and although the Volcano uses balloons, i havent heard any complaints about it, i personally prefer the AroMed, some may call it a light bulb vaporizer sinse it uses a halogen bulb, but there is no fans, and for me, fans and vaporizers dont mix because if u are inhaling directly from the unit then u have to adjust your inhale speed to match the air flow speed of the fan for the best hit possible, with the AroMed, u can hit it as fast or as slow as u like.. for big fat bowls, i recommend a faster hit than a slower one... and anyone who sais that vaporizing is a weaker hi has never properly vaporized because one can acutally go much farther with a vaporizer in the stone than by smoking... AND THE BURNOUT IS MUCH SMOOTHER! unlike smoke when u feel like crap and just wana sleep or crash...

420purplehaze420
04-24-2006, 08:22 PM
VOLCANO, you will be extremely satisfied my dealer has one and even with rough handling and daily use its still works amazing, the bag gets kinda sticky from the rez and you have to change it but other than that its matenance free and is the top vape around

LIP
04-24-2006, 11:55 PM
I'd never bother buying a vape. It looses the whole smoking part of weed...

It's not fun, not easy to transport, and no sociable.

They're a good idea, and are for some poeple, very good investments, however, i prefer to actually smoke my weed, its nicer, slower and more relaxing.

The way i see it is why bother spending all that on someting when you could spend it on weed?

It doesnt make sense, but its your choise. You'll be throwing away the "fun" element of smoking weed though.

chaywoo
04-25-2006, 12:28 AM
fun? it maybe fun now, but it wont be fun when your lungs are diagnosed with cancer, then maybe the vaporizer would have been cheap no matter the cost... what is so exciting about the smoking experience? when i smoke, the toxic chemicals generated make a person feel dirty, and make my lungs feel dirty, and the burnout is far more harsh, just like smokin is more harsh. i only smoked 1 time sense i got my AroMed and that was because the neighbor invited me over to smoke, so i took tiny hits, i couldnt believe how turned off of smoking i have become,.... TRUE it is more difficult to haul around, but everyone likes to look at it and use it, especially the AroMed because of the brite light that varies in intensity... but so far everyone i have vaporized out i made sure there experience with vaporization was a positive one... all my neighbors were stoned off there butt and we didnt even dust the bowl!
Here is why vaporizing gets confusing to smokers and that is because there is no lung sensation, just flavor at the beginning, and true it comes on slower, and that throws off the smoker, so the typical smoker keeps tokin the vaporizer trying to relate to it, and then as the flavor decreases and i increase the temp then the thc concentration picks up and bings the smoker upside the head.... infact the next few days my neighbors were talking about how loaded they were and it suprised them... now that is the proper vaporization experience

chaywoo
04-25-2006, 12:37 AM
also if a smoker should start vaporizing near the 2nd half of the bowl when the temps are above 400F, then the smoker would feel more to the head than at the beginning. but to the seasoned vaporizist, the vaporization experience is far better than the smoking one, just use the right equipment because vaporizing is detailed and technical, and then its like nature at spring time in your mouth, and instant trip hi in the mountains as the flavor itself stimulates pleasurable sensation of exotic nature flavor stimulates the mind in ways smoke will never do, and then the vaporizing enthusiest continues to sip on the natural essense of wild hemp flavor and realizes that his lungs feel like they are breathing nice clean fresh spring air... how is smoking better than that? hack hack hack? wheeze wheeze?

LikeARollingStone
04-25-2006, 12:58 AM
i have never hit a vape but no matter how good it is, i would never replace the act of smoking. there is nothing better then puffin on a fat blunt you just rolled...mmmmm....bluntsssss

1234abcd
04-25-2006, 02:00 AM
chaywoo Dont worry, Im with you, if people want to smoke and not vaporize, who cares, dont say they are gonna die from cancer and shit...fuck there has been not one death associated with smoking marijuana alone, and people have been smoking weed for fucking centuries.

And fuck, you dont have to JUST vaporize, or JUST smoke,,,fuck do BOTH. That is what Im gonna do, and Im not gonna bother even trying to vaporize anymore till I can get my volcano. I found a place that sells them for $400. Hell yeah..Im saving up..then Im gonna have the best of both worlds...my Volcano and 2 foot bong for my evening 420 sessions. I know nothing will get me as high as two fatty bong rips of that kush!

chaywoo
04-25-2006, 03:02 AM
hahaha, well i think once u get the valcano, and if it is as good as u say, then i think once u learn how to best and properly use it, then maybe u wont smoke anymore.. thats how it is with me, i have my AroMed right here next to my desk, so all i do is turn it on, and simply puff, i dont have to deal with balloons, or anything else, just push the button and about 15 to 30 seconds later the unit is ready, and away i go, sipping my hemp... about the cancer thing, the act of burning generates chemicals that are not part of or have anything to do with the hemp itself and have shown to be related to increased cancer risk, i guess its one of those things that if u say nothing, then u are despised when it is too late, and if u say something, then u are despised for saying something too soon.. nevertheless, to each there own as long as we all consider that we will die one day, do we want that day to come sooner or later? I have nothing against smokin, i just dont like it anymore, to me its like the difference between clean and dirty drinking water, once i tasted the clean filtered water, i didnt want the dirty water, but that is just me and my own personal preference, and i think 1234abc that u are making a very good decision by saving up for a quality vaporizer.. but i do suggest to really take a good look at the AroMed... u loose plenty of thc to the inside surface area of the balloon, never to be seen again, and then u have to deal with those dang balloons, but as long as u are happy with it, and u feel u will be, then i say VAPE ON! dooooooooooooooood

1234abcd
04-25-2006, 02:00 PM
I like the look of the volcano better, but reguardless they are still both top vaporizers..They are over 400! And you can get more of those balloons, and they just arn't a balloon, they have a piece on it, works out pretty cool..Im goig to have like 5 of them..so I can keep switchin them

chaywoo
04-25-2006, 04:19 PM
super! maybe you can give us a review, because i hear so much about how the volcano, yet, i really dont see reviews, but who knows, maybe after i found out that it had a fan and used balloons, i wasnt really looking for reviews, but i am curious about its theory of operation,... i just found out from AroMed, that u can do hash in it starting at 410F...

GetBakedOrDieTryin
04-25-2006, 07:29 PM
anybody here ever used a vapezilla?

420purplehaze420
04-25-2006, 08:20 PM
I like the look of the volcano better, but reguardless they are still both top vaporizers..They are over 400! And you can get more of those balloons, and they just arn't a balloon, they have a piece on it, works out pretty cool..Im goig to have like 5 of them..so I can keep switchin them
yes go with the volcano for sure, the bag has a mouthpeice that you have to push in to have air flow so that while you arent hitting it the vapour doesnt escape. You get a full bag of vapour off like .3, i doubt your losing THAT much THC to the inside of the bag.

I have never met anyone who didnt love the volcano, Accept my friends hippy dad who only smokes Js cause he says it gets him to high.

RubberSoul
04-25-2006, 09:36 PM
I have vaporizer experience...I bought the volcanco vaporizer about four years ago I believe with a bunch of people. the only problem was that I didnt know enough about marijuana or smoking as I do today to actually remember anything worth telling. at the time, we paid 500 dollars and thought that It was thegreatest thing. But now that I look back on it, it DID ruin the process of smoking, especially since vaporizing took about 5 minutes to get hammared, no matter how many people were present. Something i DO remember though is that it probably is a cleaner high feeling....but stick with normal smoking.

GetBakedOrDieTryin
04-25-2006, 09:39 PM
why do people care about smoking? does smoking make u more higher or something?

GetBakedOrDieTryin
04-25-2006, 09:45 PM
why do people care about smoking? does smoking make u more higher or something?what does vape do that smoking can't? does smoking make u feel more stoned or no?something? it would seem odd to me for smoke to make u higher then vape overall in a way. Anyways sorry if i cam spelling strange... i'm fairly baked right nowzie.

GetBakedOrDieTryin
04-25-2006, 09:48 PM
i probably was accidently rude, and didn't make no sensez... too lazy.. to.... change post..... ingenious i say!!! i didn't mean for the post to be rude sorriez!

chaywoo
04-25-2006, 11:06 PM
doooooood, the only difference between the smoking and vaporizing is the chemical intake... with a vaporizer u only inhale the essential hemp, when u smoke it, u are also becoming affected by the toxic chemicals causing the haze part of the stone... u can get much more stoned with a vaporizer than u can with smoking and that is because the haze part of the stone associated with smoking will eventually over take the hemp stone and sit your butt down, but with the vaporizer, the stone is pure with none of the toxic elements that cause the haze or close your eyes part of the stone, and is much cleaner because your body doesnt have to immediatly deal with hardcore toxic chemicals as well as the hemp... if u live somewhere near bonney lake in washington state, i will bring my vaporizer and show u what its all about...

1234abcd
04-26-2006, 12:11 AM
fuck yeah...I saved up and Im gonna get my volcano on Friday. I fucking can't wait. Im gonna be sooooo baked like chaywoo. The pure high, without the toxic smoke :stoned: :stoned: :stoned:

GetBakedOrDieTryin
04-26-2006, 03:21 AM
doooooood, the only difference between the smoking and vaporizing is the chemical intake... with a vaporizer u only inhale the essential hemp, when u smoke it, u are also becoming affected by the toxic chemicals causing the haze part of the stone... u can get much more stoned with a vaporizer than u can with smoking and that is because the haze part of the stone associated with smoking will eventually over take the hemp stone and sit your butt down, but with the vaporizer, the stone is pure with none of the toxic elements that cause the haze or close your eyes part of the stone, and is much cleaner because your body doesnt have to immediatly deal with hardcore toxic chemicals as well as the hemp... if u live somewhere near bonney lake in washington state, i will bring my vaporizer and show u what its all about...so smoking doesn't do anything mentally different to u then vape? ahhh shit... talking about this makes me wanna get high, i gotta go get high guys.

chaywoo
04-26-2006, 07:44 PM
congratulations 1234! i am having such a good time with my vaporizer that i dont smoke at all anymore, infact, i hate smoking now... i get so loaded from the vaporizer that i cant even finish a bowl in one sitting.. and yes "getbaked.." smoking does do something mentally different, its called muddy water, u cant see through it too easily... infact if u want to really know exactly which part of the stone specifically is from the smoke here is what u do.... vaporize some bud until it is brown and therefore finished, then when u are completely sober, smoke the brown weed from the vaporizer, and the experience u obtain will be at least 90% toxic smoke high, and that feeling is from the act of smoking and burning and then inhaling it minus the actual hemp

RobPA
04-26-2006, 11:37 PM
Whats up everyone! Enjoying the vaporizer discussion. I have the BC Vaporizer, it seems to me like it wastes a lot of weed for not so much high??? Anyone else have experiences like this with the BC Vaporizer?? I prefer Bonghits obviously, but when i do get high from the BC, i notice its a little bit of a differant high, what are your opinions on it? Thanks again and keep smokin!!!

chaywoo
04-27-2006, 01:06 AM
ya, the BC (Bad Crap) vaporizer sucks, infact if it has a brass bowl in changes chemical structure...u will waste away all your weed with that thing... unfortunatly there is so much trashy vaporizers out there, I havent heard of any consistant good vaporizer for less than 400$.. in my opinion, the AroMed is the best choice for a vaporizer, it has no fans (less things to break down) and u control your own air speed with the same results.. its the no BS vaporizer, no dang balloons either.. VAPE ON!

1234abcd
04-27-2006, 01:19 AM
I swear chaywoo works for aromed..but thats cool that you like it so much..LOL

Fan o KmK
04-27-2006, 03:06 AM
fun? it maybe fun now, but it wont be fun when your lungs are diagnosed with cancer, then maybe the vaporizer would have been cheap no matter the cost... what is so exciting about the smoking experience? when i smoke, the toxic chemicals generated make a person feel dirty, and make my lungs feel dirty, and the burnout is far more harsh, just like smokin is more harsh. i only smoked 1 time sense i got my AroMed and that was because the neighbor invited me over to smoke, so i took tiny hits, i couldnt believe how turned off of smoking i have become,.... TRUE it is more difficult to haul around, but everyone likes to look at it and use it, especially the AroMed because of the brite light that varies in intensity... but so far everyone i have vaporized out i made sure there experience with vaporization was a positive one... all my neighbors were stoned off there butt and we didnt even dust the bowl!
Here is why vaporizing gets confusing to smokers and that is because there is no lung sensation, just flavor at the beginning, and true it comes on slower, and that throws off the smoker, so the typical smoker keeps tokin the vaporizer trying to relate to it, and then as the flavor decreases and i increase the temp then the thc concentration picks up and bings the smoker upside the head.... infact the next few days my neighbors were talking about how loaded they were and it suprised them... now that is the proper vaporization experience
yea except for the fact that there has never been a single documented case of lung cancer as a direct result of smoking weed.

chaywoo
04-27-2006, 03:42 AM
wow that quote is smooth, and ok, maybe smoking isnt harmful in anyway,... It is good news to hear that there has never been any lung cancer cases reported... i didnt know that, thanks.... and now to the AroMed... why waste thc in the balloons never to be seen again, when u can loose a little bit in the water filter and get lit... i did that today, but i only took one sip and i was nice and gave some to the other guys and it was a sip of perfect hemp tea and 30 mins later, after i was finished with the vaporizer and hanin out with the neighbors, i found my stone continuing to take me to lift off because the hemp tea and only one sip coz i shared so the others could taste it and have a sip too... but next time, is all for me only, i think i will run about .5 ounce through it and drink it all... and i will sit in my sit and take off, what a nice additional bonus compared to a balloon that maybe u can cut apart and lick the inside... I dont work for any of these vaporizer companies, i respond out of my frustration with crapy vaporizers that ripped me off making big claims and no delivery of consistancy, 275$ in the trash when i could have bought this one from the start..... so i do have some motivation to sound the alarm to the hemp community because most vaporizers out there are crap...

chaywoo
04-27-2006, 03:48 AM
so if u want a no bull vaporizer, get the AroMed... I just used it today outside in about 45F weather, with 4 other people besides myself, and the AroMed worked just like it did inside the house, where the ambient temps are 67F roughly... and then that wonderful hemp tea... wow but some still want a balloon instead of hemp tea? meohmy? hello? I wish I would have had this information before i bought the first vaporizer...

Fan o KmK
04-27-2006, 04:43 AM
wow that quote is smooth, and ok, maybe smoking isnt harmful in anyway,... It is good news to hear that there has never been any lung cancer cases reported... i didnt know that, thanks.... and now to the AroMed... why waste thc in the balloons never to be seen again, when u can loose a little bit in the water filter and get lit... i did that today, but i only took one sip and i was nice and gave some to the other guys and it was a sip of perfect hemp tea and 30 mins later, after i was finished with the vaporizer and hanin out with the neighbors, i found my stone continuing to take me to lift off because the hemp tea and only one sip coz i shared so the others could taste it and have a sip too... but next time, is all for me only, i think i will run about .5 ounce through it and drink it all... and i will sit in my sit and take off, what a nice additional bonus compared to a balloon that maybe u can cut apart and lick the inside... I dont work for any of these vaporizer companies, i respond out of my frustration with crapy vaporizers that ripped me off making big claims and no delivery of consistancy, 275$ in the trash when i could have bought this one from the start..... so i do have some motivation to sound the alarm to the hemp community because most vaporizers out there are crap...
yea man if that sounded dick sorry, didnt mean to be but yea as far as i kno there has never been a documented case so smoke on! lol..or vape on more like. i have the hands free vaporcannon and love it. ive recently started sticking the vaportube down the stem to my bong and hittin that baby.

chaywoo
04-27-2006, 07:07 AM
well u might not want to drink that water... and na, nothing u said sounded like dick or anything, but funny u should say that, someone else just accused me of trying to be a dick on some other posting..hahahahaha VAPE ON DOOOOOOOOOD!

newagelightbulb
06-18-2006, 11:57 AM
I absolutely agree

Not to be harsh, but for some of us those things (hotboxing, bongs, pipes) are just lame trappings.

I'm not sure I wouldn't feel a bit odd sitting next to a machine with a LED and huffing from it. But then again, the whole pot 'scene' is more than a bit embarassing.The clothing made of yarn and hemp, the unkempt hair, the lack of personal hygiene, smoking at exactly 4:20 cos that's just so cool ... the fact that the pipe or bong stinks everything up when it's not being used, the reek of smoke, having to brush and gargle to get near someone who doesn't smoke ...

I think David Cross said it best: I smoke because I like the way it feels. Not because it's cool, or some kind of culture. Just a substance that makes you feel good. If you can find a more efficient and less damaging way to get it to your system, I say do it.

vapfan
06-27-2006, 12:21 AM
I've had a super vapezilla for a month, and I love it! Completely smoke free. More THC/ less canninoboids, so the high is more "up."

JohnnyRichter
06-27-2006, 03:05 AM
chaywoo Dont worry, Im with you, if people want to smoke and not vaporize, who cares, dont say they are gonna die from cancer and shit...fuck there has been not one death associated with smoking marijuana alone, and people have been smoking weed for fucking centuries.

And fuck, you dont have to JUST vaporize, or JUST smoke,,,fuck do BOTH. That is what Im gonna do, and Im not gonna bother even trying to vaporize anymore till I can get my volcano. I found a place that sells them for $400. Hell yeah..Im saving up..then Im gonna have the best of both worlds...my Volcano and 2 foot bong for my evening 420 sessions. I know nothing will get me as high as two fatty bong rips of that kush!

FUCK YEAH MAN!!! HAHA that shit was inspirational :thumbsup:

1TA2DLADY
08-02-2006, 12:14 PM
We purchased a super vapezilla about 6 months ago. My partner absolutely loves it! Me, not so sure. I think we just need to fine tune the temp setting a little more. He claims he gets way more f'd up vaping than hitting the pipe, but not me! He likes it set about 385 F. We can vap a pretty good bit of dope but even if I wait a while afterwards, nothing! Where as smoking the same shit in my pipe will get me totally f'd after 2 hits - even when I don't vap first!! I'm not sold, at least not for $500!! Perhaps someone out there has a recommendation on temp settings?? I have pretty much tried about everything from 350 - 390 F. I would love to be able to give up the whole smoking thing!!

SuperTorch
08-05-2006, 09:26 PM
We purchased a super vapezilla about 6 months ago. My partner absolutely loves it! Me, not so sure. I think we just need to fine tune the temp setting a little more. He claims he gets way more f'd up vaping than hitting the pipe, but not me! He likes it set about 385 F. We can vap a pretty good bit of dope but even if I wait a while afterwards, nothing! Where as smoking the same shit in my pipe will get me totally f'd after 2 hits - even when I don't vap first!! I'm not sold, at least not for $500!! Perhaps someone out there has a recommendation on temp settings?? I have pretty much tried about everything from 350 - 390 F. I would love to be able to give up the whole smoking thing!!

Wow we've located someone with a Super Vapezilla, be sure you don't compare hits to joint hits because it just takes longer on a vape. Also don't stop vapeing after 3-4 hits like they say even if the weed looks brown hit it a few more time as its the extra late hits that seem to be full bore. If you guy is getting F'd up then he's clearly doing it right. Have him write a review of the Super Vapezilla or how he uses it. Be sure to prime your whip, and again most people start a new bowl/whip load just when the first one was hiting hard.

Also one thing that has failed to be mentioned here is how much a vapeorizer saves you money or triples your weed supply. When you put a match/torch/flame to weed your burning/destroying 75% of the product. In fact what is geting you high from a burn-Joint, Blunt, Pipe and Bong or anything lit with fire is the VAPORIZED THC just on the outskirts of the flame. So what is happening is your actually vapeing, but all your vapeing is what the flame/fire/cherry hasn't DETROYED.. ie that little THC that is vaporized just before the flame/fire/cherry hits it. Which winds up being 25% of the actual THC that is in the bud. So bottom line if you are spending $200/mo on weed then a vapeorizer will cut that to $100 and even to $50 if you really become a pro at it. Vaporizers pay for themselves end of story. Inhaling the smoke from a joint is no different then inhaling the smoke from a burning tree it isn't good for you at all.

The whole - I like the culture of smokeing is a different arugment. I think its bogus or at least a total matter of prefference as there is nothing better than pure vaped THC in high doses. Vape highs start slower but last longer the high is Cleaner and Sweeter and tripier, the come down is feather like. Vapeorizers just remove all the bad chemicals associated with smoke caused by fire.

invision
08-05-2006, 09:47 PM
i have a vaporizer and love it, its the vaporwarez hands free model this thing get me baked every single time ive had it almost a year and cannot finish 2 bowls.

ive never used a volcano but the whip styles like mine keeps the smoking aspect to it delivering huge lung busting hits turn the temp knob up and you can smoke it a bit but not catching fire getting vapors and smoke at the same time turn the temp down for pure vapor :dance:

the high is diffrent as most people say the high from a vaporizer is all in your head it does not body stone you like smoking it does but atleast for me when i vape it doesnt numb my back like smoking it so if my back hurts the vape isnt first choice.

i say if you have 100-200 bucks to waste try a whip style vaporizer they are easy to use and easy to clean glad i bought one not to mention the amount of weed i save i used to smoke a half O a week and have cut back to about 5 grams so i freeze the rest and always have a backup stash.

angelwraith
08-06-2006, 03:26 AM
Also one thing that has failed to be mentioned here is how much a vapeorizer saves you money or triples your weed supply. When you put a match/torch/flame to weed your burning/destroying 75% of the product. In fact what is geting you high from a burn-Joint, Blunt, Pipe and Bong or anything lit with fire is the VAPORIZED THC just on the outskirts of the flame. So what is happening is your actually vapeing, but all your vapeing is what the flame/fire/cherry hasn't DETROYED.. ie that little THC that is vaporized just before the flame/fire/cherry hits it. Which winds up being 25% of the actual THC that is in the bud. So bottom line if you are spending $200/mo on weed then a vapeorizer will cut that to $100 and even to $50 if you really become a pro at it. Vaporizers pay for themselves end of story. Inhaling the smoke from a joint is no different then inhaling the smoke from a burning tree it isn't good for you at all.

this is out of High Times
"Clinical studies indicate that only 10 to 20% of the available THC is transferred from a joint cigarette to the body. A pipe is better, allowing for 45% of the available THC to be consumed. A bong is a very efficient delivery system for marijuana; in ideal conditions the only THC lost is in the exhaled smoke."

vapes are cool, no doubt, but as you've read here of people still using bongs, in practice they work differently but equally as well. I've read the advertisment on the vapes website also, but i trust high times more. Smoke and Vape, there both wonderful.

Rhastus
08-06-2006, 03:41 AM
ok i'm all about homemade
and i've been pondering about making my lava lamp into a crude vaporizor
that bulb gets way hot and i believe it would be hot enough to work and just use the lamp part(emptied out of course)as the chamber, put your weed in turn on let sit for a while and rip.

of course if this wouldn't work let me know, i haven't seriously thought about getting it accomplished yet so....

angelwraith
08-06-2006, 03:52 AM
ok i'm all about homemade
and i've been pondering about making my lava lamp into a crude vaporizor
that bulb gets way hot and i believe it would be hot enough to work and just use the lamp part(emptied out of course)as the chamber, put your weed in turn on let sit for a while and rip.

of course if this wouldn't work let me know, i haven't seriously thought about getting it accomplished yet so....

they hit 140°F, so not quite hot enough.

letsdoit
08-07-2006, 07:34 AM
anyone ever heard of a vapolution? i just saw one at the hemp fest here. they were selling them for really cheap so im assuming they must not be that great compared to the aromed or volcano

SuperTorch
08-07-2006, 04:43 PM
anyone ever heard of a vapolution? i just saw one at the hemp fest here. they were selling them for really cheap so im assuming they must not be that great compared to the aromed or volcano

actualy thay are nice little units the only issuse it the top load design takes some getting use to.

angelwraith
08-09-2006, 04:52 AM
what about the Super Vapezilla? is it really as good as the volcano?