Why so shady? (Dealers)

[Frivolous248]

Well I've been dry for over a week now and I tried gettin' some last week, but the guy didn't pull through. I talked to him 2 days and it did no good. Its my friends guy and I've never used him before, but yesterday he was talking to my friend and I talked to him and he was going to get it tomorrow (now today) and he'd give it to me after school. He didn't call me til after 6 though, and when I was done eatin' then I talked to my friend and he said that he had the stuff and I called the guy and we arranged to meet at this place. So I head out and soon I'm at the spot, he's already there ofcourse. He gets in my truck and we start talkin' and apparently he doesn't have it, he's waiting for a call to go get it. So I gave him my money (100) and he said he'd call me.

Well no call yet and its been 2+ hours which seems like more than enough time to get a deal done if you ask me.

Why do people have to be so shady and unreliable like this? I mean, it seems like it should be simple enough. I have money, I wan't weed, get weed and I'll give you the money to exchange for it. Whats so hard about that?

I'm not too worried about losing my money though, cause my friend is supposed to know him pretty good and he said he'll make sure we get it by this weekend for sure.

[MoonStarer420]

One thing I've learned is never pay unless you see the shit first, no matter who it is.

[1234abcd]

I dont know..its shady as fuck around where you are..and why the hell would you meet somebody and give him 100 bucks when he aint got no weed? Never pay till you get the goods

[orangeman]

One thing I've learned is never pay unless you see the shit first, no matter who it is.

I learned that shit before I even started buying from people lol, no one can be trusted if you ask me...of course I can be trusted, I'm a loyal guy which is why I get extra pissed when some one is disloyal to me but yet I go out and break my back for some one I barely know :mad:. Am I too nice? Lol

[diphen]

agreed...don't pay unless he's got something to give you...dealing is a business...if you don't have the liquidity to pay upfront and get from your customers later, he's probably not that good.

[Frivolous248]

Like I said, my friend knows him and I'm sure I will get the weed. I've been dry for a week and 2 days, with 420 coming up I'm gettin' worried about not having any bud, so you could say I'm desperate. And I've seen this kid around school before and shit, I'm sure I'll get it.

I just hate having to go through this bullshit to get a damn sack.

Edit: Wow, you guys really don't think I'm getting it huh? I'm almost positive I will, just have to go through some bullshit first. I'll post back as soon as I get it. Its not like this is the first time I paid in advance.

[GratefulDead4ever]

alll ways keep the non smoking green (money) til you see the real green then ya pay the green for the good green

[Kokujin X]

I don't really like the current dealer situation I have cus I always have to pay first. It's not like this guy buys bud himself, I just give him money to go to his dealer and get it back to me. He never has any money so I HAVE to give it to him first.

Most the time he comes through, but there was one time I lost $30 worth (a half of mids) cus his dealer lost the weed getting pulled over. That kinda sucked, of course no refund. You win some you lose some

[SOF]

Fuck man,

the same thing happened to me today. the thing is i worked withthe guy, and ive delt with him alot before. I lost 40 bucks today. im soo pissed. i usualy don't buy a lot of weed, only a dime bag or so... so this was a big drop... but man... fucking asshole... and now when i call his cell some random guy says he took him phone cause he ows im 250 bucks... me and this guy whos name is "jewels" will me up tomarrow, and maybe get this fucker to get us our money. uhhh i don't know what should I do??!!!

[Don Don]

Big no no giving the dealer the money first.I dont care how good your friend knows this guy .Golden rule never give up any money before you see the stash.

[yoda]

Big no no giving the dealer the money first.I dont care how good your friend knows this guy .Golden rule never give up any money before you see the stash.

yeah. and to the guy who said he has to pay this guy so he can then go to his dealer, your prolly getting ripped off. he prolly tells you it costs more than what he gets it for, so he makes a lil profit.

and the guy with the phone, that sounds like bullshit too.

[hutch b tokin]

damn, i was irate when i got ripped out of a 10, i cant imagine 100

[krustythfreakinclown]

Rule Number One when buying anything: Never give the money to the guy if he doesn't have the goods.

Sure, you are dry and you are jonesing, but guess what...By giving your money to the guy first, he could rip you off and then you would have no weed and **no money**.

As was mentioned earlier, if the guy can't even use his own money to buy the goods, then he isn't a professional or very responsible dealer. Therefore, your chances of getting ripped off are higher. Even if he just strings you along for a couple of days and gives you your money back is still bullshit.

So, in the future, work on getting a good, solid contact who has weed when you meet him, and doesn't work the whole give-me-the-money-then-I'll-get-it-for-you deal.

Again, you MUST understand: under no circumstances do you EVER give money to someone for a future delivery. No weed from the dealer? Then he gets no money!

It's a good way to weed out the flakes and real criminals in this business.

BTW, a corollary to this rule is that you never front weed to anyone in any amount for a promise to pay in the future. They are flakes and will cause you more problems than they are worth, in the long run.

Besides, buying and selling drugs is a business like any other. Just because someone is "cool" doesn't mean a damn thing. If you base decisions on whether to trust someone in an illegal transaction, you really need to re-think your philosophy.

[Boo360]

This is why I only deal with people who I know on a personal level. I have a friend of mine that I buy from and I trust her with anything since after the first time I bought from her I gave her $30 and she came back and gave me $5 back and was like, "I'm only gonna charge $25 because your a friend". So I have the most trust in her but I did get worried one day when I bought $50 worth and it took her a few hours to get it to me. (She had to go to another town...)

[buds4free]

man thats tru shit about fronting ahah this guys is so far away from being able to front weed its not even funny . hell prolly never front weed. hell he still probl doesnt know what im talking about . but manyou guys im havin trouble gettin weed now cuz i just moved but it never fails. and at my moms house i can always find people to smok e joints with me. back to fronting tho i never front it myself tho whenever i have some dope i front it out .
haha

[busteruk7]

yeah fuck that shit always cash on delivery m8
always do it like this and you wont get skanked
cheers all :)

[Frivolous248]

Ugh, well I talked to the kid today, and apparently he had a "crazy" night and said he was sorry. And now hes doing some work for his grandparents all this week and then he's going out of town weekend BUT he'll give it to my friend who hooked me up with him in the first place so I'll get it this weekend.

Goddammit this is getting ridiculous, I just want my fuckin' bud! NOW! Not in 3 days, but NOW. Tomorrows 420, so I'm pretty fucking pissed cause I had plans. This kid is never getting my buisness again.

[KingPhilie]

now, i realy dont know how stupid some of the people on these boards are, and i realize this is a big place, apprently size 4 didnt get it across.

DONT HAND OUT YOUR FUCKING MONEY

unless you know your getting the product then, and THERE.

.PEACE.

[Frivolous248]

Obviously numerous people have done it before and it has worked out, including me. But its definitely not something you should do often. I'm looking for new dealers after this, for sure.

[KingPhilie]

yes of course it works, ive done it alot of times, cuz it been with my best friend, n i can trust him. You sir are fiendin n willing to give cash to joe blow on the street, cuz hes a "friend of a friend". well guess what, theyll still fuck ya ;) Personaly iam astonished you held through the 2 day ordeal bullshit, then even gave him the cash when he had nothing.

this here, is common sense, common FUCKING sense
you call the dealer, says hes got the shit, and THEN agrees to meet you somewhere to sell you some of the shit IN HIS POSSESION, and when you get there, he says o no, i aint got it yet, iam waitin on the call. THAT RIGHT FUCKIGN THERE tells you he is a liar, he is unreliable, and doesnt care about you, cuz you just wasted time,money, n w/e the fuck else. and then . .. lol i still cant belive this part, says gimme 100 bucks, n ill get back with you, and you do it OMFG

i can only hope for the best, plz find a new dealer, plz o plz

.PEACE.

[Frivolous248]

You are a goddamn moron and don't know the situation. I'm getting my weed. I don't care what you think.

And how the fuck do you know I would have given my money to "Joe Blow" on the street, cause I sure as hell wouldn't have. Unless maybe he showed me some grass first then said we could make a legit deal.

[OzzyOz]

reasons not to front money...

1.) they can rip you off/ leave with the money
2.) there a middle man, real "dealers" always have product ready to distribute and don't need $$$ normally to go get it unless it's like a Quarter pound or more...

[KingPhilie]

You are a goddamn moron and don't know the situation. I'm getting my weed. I don't care what you think.

And how the fuck do you know I would have given my money to "Joe Blow" on the street, cause I sure as hell wouldn't have. Unless maybe he showed me some grass first then said we could make a legit deal.
o yes iam a moron cuz iam short 100 dollars. . .wait :D nvm. thats cool dude, you can belive your gonna get your shit all you want, if you do, good for you, your one of the lucky ones. BUT sadly you DID give your money to joe blow on the street, cuz . . . YOU dont know him, he is a "friend of a friend". Do you know him personaly? have you delt with him many times? has he shown to be a loyal dealer? from what ive read, all above are no. all above are damn good reasons to not give your money to some jerk off. and the second comment is purly fucking retarded, thats the ONLY reason anyone who thinks logicaly and well umm . . . THINKS period, would give any drug dealer, ANY money, cuz they have the product, PERIOD.

its a beginers mistake, swallow your pride, and accept it. Or continue to bend over backwards for said guy, while he continues to lube up the broom stick

.PEACE.

always remeber, only the morons already have weed lined up for 420 :rasta: yup thats me :thumbsup:

This is how, i, logical me ^^ gets my weed
i go to my drug dealers trap house, ive been to many over the years, but this is a friend from highschool (alright theres good reason to trust, i know him). Now ive been buyen from him for 3 years solid now, everything from pounds to dimes, so i know hes good, and never once has he said, "gimme the cash ill call ya", its allways, ill get the shit, THEN ill call ya. cuz why? cuz he is a logical thinking human being, even a drug dealer, who droped out of hs, has no job, other then selling drugs, knows one of the most BASIC princples of bussniess.

YOU CANNOT SELL A PRODUCT, IF YOU DO NOT HAVE ONE

[graymatter]

This looks like a "What the FUCK, man, I've been ripped off" thread...

Rule #1: How many times have you been ripped off by legal ventures? They're all over... expensive cell phones that look nice but don't work and then they sell for $15.00 once demand goes away. Capitalism thrives on turning the most profit through the least amount of cost (including controls and regulation).

Rule #2: Pot is uncontrolled and unregulated... it's just illegal. Al Capone (from booze prohibition days) would love this environment. He'd be a fucking gazillionare....

Rule #3: TELL the american congress to end weed prohibition... It's bad for business, and it's bad for government revenue and law enforcement priorities.

[imagoober]

no no no never give anyone the money to go get you weed! you give them the money when you get your weed! hope it works out! g-luck!

[Nathaniel]

You Prolly Just Got Burned For Your cash.
NO MATTER WHAT ANYONE SAYS
hand your cash over when they have the shit.
if they say they dont have it,
tell em to come back when they do

[PureEvil760]

You have to give the dealer the money first, then they will trust you and get ur weed..or just run away

[krustythfreakinclown]

You are a goddamn moron and don't know the situation. I'm getting my weed. I don't care what you think.

And how the fuck do you know I would have given my money to "Joe Blow" on the street, cause I sure as hell wouldn't have. Unless maybe he showed me some grass first then said we could make a legit deal.

Well, smart guy, did you get your weed yet, or does some random dude out there still have your hundred bucks?

BTW, you just did in effect give money to "Joe Blow", since your initial contact had to hand over the deal to someone else. BTW, the only time he should be showing you grass is when it's the grass he's giving it to you to fulfill his end of the deal *in full*. If he gave you a few grams to tide you over, he's just trying to keep you quiet and hoping you'll forget about the whole situation. Other than that, you are still setting yourself up.

What you *should* do is call whoever you think has your money (there's no telling, now), and demand your money back immediately. Even better, just show up at the dude's house or work or wherever you know he is and say, "Don't worry about the deal. I'll just take my money back." Then, he won't have it on him because things have been so "crazy" and he had to give it to another dude so he could give you the hook up. Then, you have the option to either a) kick the shit out of the guy who just ripped you off and take whatever money he does have on him, b) kick the shit out of the guy, find out who and where the dude with your money lives and go kick *his* ass and get your money back, c) do nothing and wait for a call that has a slim to none chance of ever occuring.

If you go with options a or b, however, you will either end up in jail or getting your ass kicked instead, or worse. Ah, the typical cycle of trying to buy drugs. I've seen it happen plenty of times and been a part of that cycle more times that I can count and it always is a pain in the ass every time.

Good luck!

[KingPhilie]

oh god almost forgot about this

is it too late to say i told you so GOD i hope not

:dance: :thumbsup: :dance: :dance: :dance: :thumbsup: :dance: :thumbsup: :thumbsup: :dance: :dance: :thumbsup: :dance:

.PEACE. :D

[Eshelmen]

this is why i plan to grow my own shit and have the dealers buy from me HAHA

[Fear the Reefer]

my dealer is quite reliable, he gives it to me on tic (he gets me weed and i pay him later) even if i have the money i allways say i dont so i make sure i get the weed, i remember my first ever deal i gave the guy the money and he litreally walked away, so yeah allways see the good before u front the cash

[Jeff Spicoli]

depends on who it is dude. I just met the coolest person in the town I live at, haha, and he's also an awesome dealer. has access to everything we desire, always hooks it up, and if he can't deliver to me when I want it, he will always mark the price down when I do get it. So incredibly nice. Gave him $110 yesterday, wasn't worried at all, he called me within the hour saying he got the pills annd delieved them also. god, im ranting today, haha, but life is good now.

[Its a Plant]

"Hey man, let's party!"

[Jeff Spicoli]

bud*
haha

[Its a Plant]

haha, shit I can't believe I missed that one. I gotta stop with these pills..