Wouldn't it be nice...

[ERBA]

If there were no buildings.
No cars.
No roads.
No houses.
No cell phones and technological shit.
No cities.
No towns.
No coutries.
No borders.
No killings.
No rapes.
No hate.
No crime anywhere.
No difference in race.
No difference in language.
No other artificial shit that fucked up/make up our environment.

Only...

Beautiful scenery.
People living together as one race with no bad morals.
Love.
Simplicity.
Mellowness :D
The world as pure as it was say, one million years ago.
And cannabis.....

[TheAlphaChode]

not really

[Jeff Spicoli]

No cell phones and technological shit.
so like, the 1800's? no way! and plus, violence is exciting, to a certain extent

[BongSmokityDuo]

it would be fabulous, I wish it were possible

[ERBA]

Not like the 1800's, I'm talking time of the dinosaurs minus the dinosaurs (Unless they like to chill and smoke too). We would live kind of like the Indians did I guess but not so, violent?

[ERBA]

it would be fabulous, I wish it were possible

Bong knows what I'm talking about! :D

[cannabis campbell]

You hippies still around!? damn!

[cannabis campbell]

What do you have against buildings, cars, roads, houses (where would you live then in a pig sty???), cell phones and technological shit, cities, towns, different countries, crime ??? (no crime = no cannabis)

All these are what make the world different so basically what you are saying is wouldn't it be great if the world was all the same and boring well.... no:)

[TheLion]

Yes, it would be wonderful.

[cannabis campbell]

no houses ? (where would people live and go to stay and keep their belongings in and keep warm)

no cars / roads / towns / cities / countries / boarders? (well if the world didn't have countries, cities, boarders etc... then how would everyone get around we would have to stay in one place for our whole lives)

no cell phones? (no way for people to keep in contact)

There are too many disadvantages

[ERBA]

What do you have against buildings, cars, roads, houses (where would you live then in a pig sty???), cell phones and technological shit, cities, towns, different countries, crime ??? (no crime = no cannabis)

All these are what make the world different so basically what you are saying is wouldn't it be great if the world was all the same and boring well.... no:)

Buildings, cars, roads, houses, etc. take a piece of of the earth's beauty away. Technology? We can live without it, no biggie. It wasn't always around in the way we know it. Cities, towns, countries, race...these things create racism and hate. What do you have against a world with no borders? And who's to say the world would be boring, and all the same? What makes the world so exciting today, that you wouldnt trade for a paradise that glows with peace, love, and beauty?

[geonagual]

That would be the life
cruisin on my huffy
all the way to nowhere

I get what your sayin
but a few of those things will need to stay

Have you been studying with the Jehovah's Witnesses again? LOL

[ERBA]

no houses ? (where would people live and go to stay and keep their belongings in and keep warm)

no cars / roads / towns / cities / countries / boarders? (well if the world didn't have countries, cities, boarders etc... then how would everyone get around we would have to stay in one place for our whole lives)

no cell phones? (no way for people to keep in contact)

There are too many disadvantages

Homo erectus, homo habilus, Neanderthals, and species like ours have lived normal lives with no houses. How did they stay warm/cool? I do not have an exact answer. Im sure we would adapt and use the environment to our advantage, much like im sure they did.

Why would we have to stay in one place the whole time? That makes no sense at all. Your saying that just because a place has a different name makes it different altogether? The world is all the same, just some places are named different. That's all. Just a name.

No cell phones, oh dear, what a tragedy. Talking with people over the phone is totally different then having a conversation with someone in person. Why do we feel the need to call people all day nonstop?

There are too many disadvantages? Had we not have had all this stuff in the first place, we wouldnt know we are at a disadvantage :thumbsup:

[xblackdogx]

hit up some secluded areas of brazil, and plenty of places in Africa ... beautiful serene integrated [or at the least extremely tolerant] societies

or maybe i'm just dreaming...

[Psycho4Bud]

Imagine

Imagine there's no heaven,
It's easy if you try,
No hell below us,
Above us only sky,
Imagine all the people
living for today...

Imagine there's no countries,
It isnt hard to do,
Nothing to kill or die for,
No religion too,
Imagine all the people
living life in peace...

Imagine no possesions,
I wonder if you can,
No need for greed or hunger,
A brotherhood of man,
Imagine all the people
Sharing all the world...

You may say Im a dreamer,
but Im not the only one,
I hope some day you'll join us,
And the world will live as one.:thumbsup:

[cannabis campbell]

Homo erectus, homo habilus, Neanderthals, and species like ours have lived normal lives with no houses. How did they stay warm/cool? I do not have an exact answer. Im sure we would adapt and use the environment to our advantage, much like im sure they did.

Why would we have to stay in one place the whole time? That makes no sense at all. Your saying that just because a place has a different name makes it different altogether? The world is all the same, just some places are named different. That's all. Just a name.

No cell phones, oh dear, what a tragedy. Talking with people over the phone is totally different then having a conversation with someone in person. Why do we feel the need to call people all day nonstop?

There are too many disadvantages? Had we not have had all this stuff in the first place, we wouldnt know we are at a disadvantage :thumbsup:

yeah i agree but we do have it

so why would we want to put ourselves in a disadvantage and move backwards...

be serious would you really wanna live like this

[ERBA]

be serious would you really wanna live like this

I never am and no one ever will, that's the truth...but it would be nice, definetly :)

[HiddenBeauty]

Without some of it would be nice but not all of it,I think life would get a bit boring after a while.

[Swizzy89304]

Id love to live like that. If I ruled the world, everyone would live in little settlements, and each person would grow something different. One person would grow potatoes and yams, one would grow tomatoes and Herb, one would have a few chicken coops, one would have a herd of cattle etc etc.
Nothing would be traded as such - each month, there would be a huge celebration/festival kinda thing where everyone brings what theyve grown, and we all sit down and have a huge dinner, finished off with as much Herb as you can possibly smoke. Oh, and shrooms aswell. Then we all go back to our little huts (that we built ourselves) and carry on tending to our fruit, veg and livestock.
Kids wouldnt be taught all this algebra and Shakespeare bollocks, theyd be taught how to read, write, build stuff (woodwork etc), look after animals, and grow Herb. There would be no marriage either, because if you really love someone and they know it, you dont need to get married to prove it. You just bonk them.

[Swizzy89304]

Oh, and there would be none of them fugly electricity pylons. Power would be generated by solar panels, water turbines and windmills. I mean the old wooden windmills, not those nasty white things.

[HiddenBeauty]

You just bonk them lol I was enjoying reading your post but that kinda killed the nice thought.

[dog420]

If there were no buildings.
No cars.
No roads.
No houses.
No cell phones and technological shit.
No cities.
No towns.
No coutries.
No borders.
No killings.
No rapes.
No hate.
No crime anywhere.
No difference in race.
No difference in language.
No other artificial shit that fucked up/make up our environment.

Only...

Beautiful scenery.
People living together as one race with no bad morals.
Love.
Simplicity.
Mellowness :D
The world as pure as it was say, one million years ago.
And cannabis.....

HHmmm i cant see what good it would do......

[cannabis campbell]

Yeah but this would still create the problem, who would work??

no money, no buildings, no houses or cars ?? nothing for people to spend money on, would they even get paid for working????

We need people to work so that we can live like people who deliver food and keep it fresh, people who cook food like restaurants etc....

it wouldn't work

[Swizzy89304]

There would be no money. Instead, you either grow everything you need (and employ people if you need the extra help; payment would be some of the finished product. The amount would be agreed upon beforehand) or you trade items. For example, someone has just popped off a load of chickens and you grow spuds, and one day you fancy some chicken with it. So you simply trade some potatoes for the chicken.

[friendowl]

that sounds like one dull life partner
i prefer a challenge.
if i can keep my head while everyone else is losing theirs ....

[phareye]

don't you think there is a reason we have progressed this far?
probably because people sat around going, "this sucks; i wish i was warm" or,"this sucks; i wish i had a way to take care of this bleeding, pus-filled abcess in my gums".
granted, we are over developed and what not, but do you think for a second that some raggedy-ass dirt farmer who couldn't hope to live past the age of thirty would choose to go back to a life that was nasty, brutish, and short if you showed him what we have now?
medicine to heal your sick child- yes, there are plenty of major problems w/ the medical industry and plenty of naturally occuring medicines, but still, peeps just didn't live that long or have great access to these medicines.
houses/buildings- yeah, i hate suburban sprawl, but have you ever spent a cold night in the woods? it sucks unless you got the right gear.

balance is the only constant. you can't have utopia without some distopia. you can't have plenty without scarcity. nature just doesn't work like that.

[Pulse]

it is what i think a perfect world would be

[phareye]

okay, this is me about to be the a$$hole in the place:
you're writing about how you don't care about technology on a COMPUTER!
you're posting these statements on the INTERNET!!
wearing mass-produced clothes from inside a MAN-MADE STRUCTURE!!!

it's like the rainbow family bitchin' about Babylon... but they DROVE A CAR to the gathering and most are WEARING SNEAKERS/TEVAS/BIRKS!!!

it's cool to question and wonder, but just remember that the grass (and ganja) is always greener on the other side.

[eddievanzant]

I'm sure I've said it before, but I envy the Native Americans: No diseases, little war (they didn't like fighting for land with other people's dead ancestors buried there), and sex all the time.

[ERBA]

okay, this is me about to be the a$$hole in the place:
you're writing about how you don't care about technology on a COMPUTER!
you're posting these statements on the INTERNET!!
wearing mass-produced clothes from inside a MAN-MADE STRUCTURE!!!

it's like the rainbow family bitchin' about Babylon... but they DROVE A CAR to the gathering and most are WEARING SNEAKERS/TEVAS/BIRKS!!!

it's cool to question and wonder, but just remember that the grass (and ganja) is always greener on the other side.

Sure I am. Life in this day and age isn't feasible without all we have. I think some people are missing the point :(

[phareye]

I'm sure I've said it before, but I envy the Native Americans: No diseases, little war (they didn't like fighting for land with other people's dead ancestors buried there), and sex all the time.

um...
native north americans? 'cause they had plenty of disease and conflict.
native south americans? those mugs ate human hearts and sacrificed hundreds of thousands.
true, they didn't fight for land, usually, but they sure did fight for horses (plains indians after horses were introduced) and slaves.
not to piss in your cheerios, but the myth of the noble savage living in harmony is just that, a myth.
yeah, they had a much better grasp (for the most part) on sustainable development and decision-making, but they still rarely lived past forty and had plenty of sickness and strife.

[eddievanzant]

From what I've heard, before the Europeans reached the Americas, for one, they lived until about 80 years old.

[phareye]

From what I've heard, before the Europeans reached the Americas, for one, they lived until about 80 years old.

i won't deny you heard that, and i won't deny that there weren't some cases of longer-than-usual longevity, but those would have been rare cases.
the industrialized world has just recently begun seeing life spans reaching into the eighties, and by recently i mean the past 100 years or so.

[orangeman]

Yeah that would be nice, I want it so bad that if you would have to die before it happens I'd kill my self to get to a place like that.

[ERBA]

Yeah that would be nice, I want it so bad that if you would have to die before it happens I'd kill my self to get to a place like that.

Hehe, Orangeman knows what's up :dance: :dance:

I would too, by the way.

[Jeff Spicoli]

go live in a commune then :D

[too as in also]

everyone wants that until they get really sick or injured,then they can't get enough of technology:rasta:

[phareye]

everyone wants that until they get really sick or injured,then they can't get enough of technology:rasta:

amen.
as fucked as the medical establishment is, i for one am glad that if i break a bone in my leg i won't spend the rest of my life as Gimpy the Limpin' Gimp.

[NextLineIsMine]

Wait guys we could do it! all we would need would be like a global nuclear war or something and we could do it!

[CrAzYpOtHeAd]

Wouldn't it be nice if you shut the fuck up and realised thats impossible? Humans play God too much.

[ERBA]

Holy shit man, I don't even know how to respond to that. Shut the fuck up? Trying to play god? I know that will never happen, hence, "wouldn't it be nice." Have some respect, don't you dream once in a while?


I never am and no one ever will, that's the truth...but it would be nice, definetly :)

[CrAzYpOtHeAd]

lol i know, i just can't think too straight right now. Its like 5am and im really tired but i can't fall asleep.

[Swizzy89304]

When Im older I have a dream (hopefully ittl turn true).
I either want to live in Thailand, on the beach on a little island in a wooden shack. Just a bed and some clean running water will do me fine. Each day go over on a little boat to the local market on the mainland and pick up my food for the day.
Or live in a little shack somewhere up in the hills in Jamaica, with a few acres of land where I can have some chickens and grow my own food and veg.

[thebathroom]

That would be a pretty kick ass existance

[Swizzy89304]

Everything in Thailand is dirt cheap. When we went on holiday a few years back to visit my cousin, I ended up bringing back most of the money I took with me because I just couldnt spend it all. We gave the guy in the tuk-tuk taxi a 20 baht tip (about 35p) and he was fucking ecstatic. Ive never seen anyone so damn happy!
A meal for 4 at a decent restaurant on the beach costs around £10, thats including drinks, starter, main course and dessert.
Oh, and you can buy a MASSIVE detatched house on a private estate (complete with armed guard), with your own swimming pool, garden, patio, front garden, 3 bedrooms, 2 on-suite bathrooms, a downstairs bathroom, living room, kitchen, study, dining area, all fully kitted out with AC for £50,000. Would make a damn good investment.

[eddievanzant]

I don't understand why you think the world would be better without those things. Even the raping and murder make other thing that are good in life relatively better.

[phareye]

I don't understand why you think the world would be better without those things. Even the raping and murder make other thing that are good in life relatively better.

yeah. violence sucks, but it can't be avoided. the lion has to totally kick the shit out of a gazelle (and by "kick the shit out of" i mean totally disembowel) to feed its cubs.
sure, people are not animals, but i go back to the whole balance thing: YOU CANNOT HAVE UTOPIA WITHOUT DISTOPIA. the center would not hold and things would fall apart.

[Swizzy89304]

Wait guys we could do it! all we would need would be like a global nuclear war or something and we could do it!

Just wait a year an we'll be at war with Iran. Im positive a nuclear war is coming within our lifetime.

[eddievanzant]

I second that belief.