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slipknotpsycho
04-17-2006, 01:52 AM
THIS IS ALL HYPOTHETICAL!!!!

Ok, say through a mutual friend you met someone who knew nothing but growing, but got really lucky and actually grew a weed plant, that was a respectable plant, full of bud...

Ok, now assume he knows nothing about curing, and is just a total idiot, he's having problems getting it to smoke, and asks you what to do, or if you know.

now assume you told him you knew nothing about it, then he offers to sell it thinking it's no good. you give hima ridiculously cheap ammount for it, cure it and have up to a lb. of good wonderful bud... and he sold you the whole thing for 50 dollars...

if you knowingly lie, just to get the plant for cheap as fuck, is that stealing....

king kong bong
04-17-2006, 02:00 AM
no, its his own fault.

skeltey
04-17-2006, 02:04 AM
yeah its shady...just help him out and ask him to hook you up. that way you both win.

john maconha bullet
04-17-2006, 02:07 AM
business is business.......

wordddddd
04-17-2006, 02:08 AM
ill agree with both...its shady, but its his fault for being an idiot and not knowing how to google a topic hahaha

Jeff Spicoli
04-17-2006, 02:40 AM
how about after you harvest it, you give him like 25% of it. no feelings of guilt, if you are that kind of person.

Its a Plant
04-17-2006, 02:43 AM
It's not stealing persay, more like taking advantage of some mindless sap. It is his fault, but at the same time, a cruel and evil person takes advantage of his ignorance. I would at least give him some bud at a really cheap price without reason. If he asks, just tell him you guys are tight so you're giving him a deal. The guilt should go away, or at least subside for the time being.

But...ahhh, anyways...you got any of that bud for sale? :D (hypothetical, HA!)

pabloescobar209
04-17-2006, 02:44 AM
THIS IS ALL HYPOTHETICAL!!!!

Ok, say through a mutual friend you met someone who knew nothing but growing, but got really lucky and actually grew a weed plant, that was a respectable plant, full of bud...

Ok, now assume he knows nothing about curing, and is just a total idiot, he's having problems getting it to smoke, and asks you what to do, or if you know.

now assume you told him you knew nothing about it, then he offers to sell it thinking it's no good. you give hima ridiculously cheap ammount for it, cure it and have up to a lb. of good wonderful bud... and he sold you the whole thing for 50 dollars...

if you knowingly lie, just to get the plant for cheap as fuck, is that stealing.... No it's " You fool me once shame on you. You fool me twice shame on me"

TheLion
04-17-2006, 02:48 AM
Nope. Shady though.

Swizzy89304
04-17-2006, 02:53 AM
Its not shady. Its damn clever.

Frivolous248
04-17-2006, 03:04 AM
Haha, no its not stealing, it might be ripping off a good friend though. But he did grow it, so its not like he lost money, just the potential for money. I would probably do the same thing, but pay him back for it. Either smoking him out very often or splitting the profits after its all sold.

smokingskeleton
04-17-2006, 03:10 AM
Just take the god damn plant and smoke it.

It is "shady" through.

slipknotpsycho
04-17-2006, 03:15 AM
no no no lol it was hypothetical... the last time i saw a weed plant in person was when i was 15-16, well if you don't count when i tried to grow... i was just wanting to see how your minds worked.. one of those stoned things where you wonder which side you'd really take in the situation.. i'm high.. yup..

halo
04-17-2006, 03:28 AM
No it isnt. If he sells it to you willingly then its his fault he got ripped off.

PureEvil760
04-17-2006, 03:35 AM
As long as you dont get shot : go for it.

Rebel24
04-17-2006, 03:43 AM
if he made the price take it our u did let him now if u made the price and find out that u ripe him off u could be dead or he will not let u by from him no more and u will be fuck.:stoned: :thumbsup:

1234abcd
04-17-2006, 03:47 AM
shady

Boo360
04-17-2006, 03:48 AM
I see it as not only lieing but being a complete fuck wad of a friend.

potsmokingnome
04-17-2006, 03:59 AM
Your mainly just taking advantage of his ignorance, its not really stealing, but you better hope he doens't find out he got ripped off big time. I'd pissed if i was him and found out.

king kong bong
04-17-2006, 04:10 AM
No it's " You fool me once shame on you. You fool me twice shame on me"

correction, "There's an old saying in Tennessee â?? I know it's in Texas, probably in Tennessee â?? that says, fool me once, shame on â?? shame on you. Fool me â?? you can't get fooled again."

Psycho4Bud
04-17-2006, 04:14 AM
There's another saying called good Karma. Why not show him what he's doing wrong for a finders fee (lil free smoke) or POSSIBLY just to be decent about it?

Reefer Rogue
04-17-2006, 10:10 AM
Not stealing.

pabloescobar209
04-17-2006, 03:28 PM
correction, "There's an old saying in Tennessee â?? I know it's in Texas, probably in Tennessee â?? that says, fool me once, shame on â?? shame on you. Fool me â?? you can't get fooled again."
gotta love good ole GWB

enthused
04-17-2006, 03:31 PM
if its a good friend, i woulda said 'ill harvest/cure it if you give me half'. otherwise I probably woulda done what you did

Hollandica
04-17-2006, 03:37 PM
You need two things when you want to grow marijuana: a plant and knowledge. If you don't have both of them, whats the point of the one ingredient you have. That means, either share your knowledge or buy the plant and do the job yourself. Maybe give him a cut to make you both feel good. It's the peace plant, and should be shared anyway.

king kong bong
04-17-2006, 10:14 PM
gotta love good ole GWB

yes you do.

turtle420
04-17-2006, 10:17 PM
and have up to a lb. of good wonderful bud... and he sold you the whole thing for 50 dollars...
Nobody that's able to grow a plant, (ONE plant, mind you) to produce 1 pound of "good wonderful bud" will sell the thing for 50 dollars.

I mean, nobody. If somebody grew it to that size, with those buds, man, he's the luckiest noob in the face of the Earth.

Skink
04-17-2006, 10:20 PM
Your a fucking dick,and I have no use for fucking dicks like you...

da haze meister
04-17-2006, 10:27 PM
Your a fucking dick,and I have no use for fucking dicks like you...
fire your boyfriend and stick it up your ass!!:D :D :D

del...
04-17-2006, 10:33 PM
and people wonder why threads disappear...

da haze meister
04-17-2006, 10:40 PM
and people wonder why threads disappear...
sorry del... i will abstain from pwning n00bs from now on.

Skink
04-17-2006, 11:48 PM
I agree Dell,,,Hazemiester's post was off topic and rude...

slipknotpsycho
04-17-2006, 11:49 PM
well i must say, i'm once again astounded by cannabis.com boards... i say hypothetical, meaning i thought of the question while on the shitter (as i like to think when taking a nice healthy shit), and all of a sudden i'm a dick? :rolleyes:

does anyone know what hypothetical even means?

Its a Plant
04-17-2006, 11:52 PM
I don't think people read. It was stated like 3 times that it was hypothetical, and I even called you out on it being true, and still you mentioned hypothetical.

hmm, read before posting maybe?

rhino44
04-17-2006, 11:54 PM
well i must say, i'm once again astounded by cannabis.com boards... i say hypothetical, meaning i thought of the question while on the shitter (as i like to think when taking a nice healthy shit), and all of a sudden i'm a dick? :rolleyes:

does anyone know what hypothetical even means?

I really hate to be a dick and point this out but in your I dont give a fuck disclaimer you state that none of your discussions r hypothetical lol just fuckin with ya man

Fengzi
04-18-2006, 12:02 AM
THIS IS ALL HYPOTHETICAL!!!!


if you knowingly lie, just to get the plant for cheap as fuck, is that stealing....

No not stealing but it would meet the legal definition of fraud. I doubt you'd end up on the Judge Judy show though. There would be karmic repercussions, however.

Skink
04-18-2006, 12:03 AM
business is business.......
No that's the problem here!!! Business is charging to make his product usable/saleable... He could on the afore mentioned premise charge upfront a fee worth More than the product itself... That's Business...

The acceptance of this behaver is sad and perpetuates the deceit...

Skink
04-18-2006, 12:07 AM
well i must say, i'm once again astounded by cannabis.com boards... i say hypothetical, meaning i thought of the question while on the shitter (as i like to think when taking a nice healthy shit), and all of a sudden i'm a dick? :rolleyes:

does anyone know what hypothetical even means?
I was going to put ,Hypothetically speaking, in the post,but I thought it was not necessary...

del...
04-18-2006, 12:13 AM
No that's the problem here!!! Business is charging to make his product usable/saleable... He could on the afore mentioned premise charge upfront a fee worth More than the product itself... That's Business...

The acceptance of this behaver is sad and perpetuates the deceit...


it's a great character test though and gives us all a look at who we might want to hook up with in the future...and those to avoid.

slipknotpsycho
04-18-2006, 12:20 AM
I really hate to be a dick and point this out but in your I dont give a fuck disclaimer you state that none of your discussions r hypothetical lol just fuckin with ya man
why whatever do you mean? i think you need to read a bit closer. :D

KingPhilie
04-18-2006, 01:02 AM
as long as you pay SOMETHING it isnt stealing, now offer to help him cure/dry it, for half the crop, n let him sell some, THAT SIR is the "honorab;e" thing to do.


.PEACE.

pabloescobar209
04-18-2006, 01:11 AM
sorry del... i will abstain from pwning n00bs from now on.
as if saying "Pwning" wasn't stupid enough you throw in "n00bs"... From now on I will take you seriously....I will.

pabloescobar209
04-18-2006, 01:13 AM
yes you do.
He's the John Madden of politics, aka Curious George

Pulse
04-18-2006, 03:12 AM
i just never do anything i dont want done to me. i think you should split it with him 50/50 for helping him. you'll still get a ton of bud and cash and he'll prolly just end up smokeing with him anyway. plus you gain a friend. on top of that he'll prolly grow again and share it with ya

Kitty Kat
04-18-2006, 03:14 AM
I agree with pulse on this one.

lizzie on low
04-18-2006, 02:58 PM
Not stealing, but damn low and reprehensible, imho.

chisme
04-18-2006, 03:02 PM
not stealing its yours!

daima
04-18-2006, 03:06 PM
THIS IS ALL HYPOTHETICAL!!!!

Ok, say through a mutual friend you met someone who knew nothing but growing, but got really lucky and actually grew a weed plant, that was a respectable plant, full of bud...

Ok, now assume he knows nothing about curing, and is just a total idiot, he's having problems getting it to smoke, and asks you what to do, or if you know.

now assume you told him you knew nothing about it, then he offers to sell it thinking it's no good. you give hima ridiculously cheap ammount for it, cure it and have up to a lb. of good wonderful bud... and he sold you the whole thing for 50 dollars...

if you knowingly lie, just to get the plant for cheap as fuck, is that stealing....

IMO we are all here to enlighten one another. IMO you should of gladly helped this person out and keep your integrity in tact. Taking adavantage of others isnt a good thing. I guess i would just ask you , how do you feel when people take advantage of you? It is an aweful feeling and leaves one with a even more dismal outlook on their fellow human beings.
Listen to your conscience and try to keep your brain at a distance

dai*ma:thumbsup:

daima
04-18-2006, 03:08 PM
There's another saying called good Karma. Why not show him what he's doing wrong for a finders fee (lil free smoke) or POSSIBLY just to be decent about it?

Well said
dai*ma:stoned:

bobbyhardcore
04-18-2006, 03:50 PM
dude thats bent as hell. I'm sorry but you are a low ass smoker cos of that. If sum1 did that to me and i found out i'd smack the hell out of them. It's seriously low man. People talk about exploitation etc from the government well you have exploited him. U have taken advantage of the fact that he's a beginner for your own gain. Where's the nobeility today. Help a dude out and he'll help you out. It's not karma, it's simple human nature. If sum1 is kind to you then you'll more than likely be kind to them back. Sort yourself out dude and give him back his weed ... Loser !!!

KEGS
04-18-2006, 04:00 PM
It was not a Friend.o.k
You did not really lie you just
did not give him your No How.
You Just maid a good deal.

KEGS
04-18-2006, 04:02 PM
King Kong
You must have seen Devil's Rejects
Great Movie.By Rob Zombie

slipknotpsycho
04-18-2006, 05:22 PM
dude thats bent as hell. I'm sorry but you are a low ass smoker cos of that. If sum1 did that to me and i found out i'd smack the hell out of them. It's seriously low man. People talk about exploitation etc from the government well you have exploited him. U have taken advantage of the fact that he's a beginner for your own gain. Where's the nobeility today. Help a dude out and he'll help you out. It's not karma, it's simple human nature. If sum1 is kind to you then you'll more than likely be kind to them back. Sort yourself out dude and give him back his weed ... Loser !!!


Main Entry: hy·po·thet·i·cal
Function: adjective
Pronunciation: "hī-p&-'the-ti-k&l
: being or involving a hypothesis : CONJECTURAL <hypothetical arguments> <a hypothetical situation>
- hy·po·thet·i·cal·ly/-ti-k(&-)le/ adverb

Main Entry: hy·poth·e·sis
Function: noun
Pronunciation: hī-'pä-th&-s&s
Etymology: Greek, from hypotithenai to put under, suppose, from hypo- + tithenai to put -- more at DO

1 a : an assumption or concession made for the sake of argument b : an interpretation of a practical situation or condition taken as the ground for action
2 : a tentative assumption made in order to draw out and test its logical or empirical consequences

3 : the antecedent clause of a conditional statement
synonyms HYPOTHESIS , THEORY , LAW mean a formula derived by inference from scientific data that explains a principle operating in nature. HYPOTHESIS implies insufficient evidence to provide more than a tentative explanation <a hypothesis explaining the extinction of the dinosaurs>. THEORY implies a greater range of evidence and greater likelihood of truth <the theory of evolution>. LAW implies a statement of order and relation in nature that has been found to be invariable under the same conditions <the law of gravitation>.