Jays.

[ChronicMike]

People who smoke jays know that joints do not waste weed... if you can roll a nice spliff than itwont waste weed ..

[CrAzYpOtHeAd]

How does that make sense. "if you roll a nice spliff it dos'nt waste weed". Care to explain how rolling a nice spliff means it dos'nt waste weed? I smoke joints and out of pipes and bongs, and i know that i use alot more weed when i roll a spliff...

[slpntrx5]

yeah, dude. joints and blunts waste herb. period. i don't care how you roll it, or how you smoke it, but the fact of the matter is, it wastes weed. that doesn't stop me from smoking them, though!

[Frivolous248]

Jays don't waste weed like people think, its not like it burns a full inch while your waiting to pass it, plus some of that smoke is from the paper, its not all weed burning, and a lot of times I will notice the paper burns faster than the weed and ash sticks out, so I'm not too worried about wasting it.

[LIP]

As long as you roll it tight, it dont waste hardly any...

[kapps]

shit if you gettin high to me it aint A waste I'd take a dutch over any pipe any day

[slpntrx5]

As long as you roll it tight, it dont waste hardly any...

but that doesn't mean that it DOESN'T waste, does it? haha, i win! :rasta: :dance:

[mom2calebnjoshie]

My husband and I smoke mostly bowls/pipes and bongs and our green lasts longer when we do it that way vs. when we roll up. LOL, however, I think it depends on the situation. If your smoking a J with people who hold it forever before passing then it burns WAY quick - which, usually when we burn J's with people is exactly what happens. I think its a preference thing, and really if your getting high, I agree its not a waste..but its really much nicer when it goes farther; unless money isn't an option, which would really be cool too, lol

[2pacwiggaforlife]

A jay is ghetto and awesome so no its not a waste i like carrying around jays isntead of a baggy and bowl in my pocket find it handier to have pre-made jay rdy to go :)

[CrAzYpOtHeAd]

As long as you roll it tight, it dont waste hardly any...

Yeah but you can sometimes roll spliff's SO tight that you can't draw in any smoke. Spliffs are just the old school way of doing things, if ur tryin to conserve it would be common sense to use a pipe or a bong. I use everyone of them, but i hit my pipe more than i roll spliff's.

[CrAzYpOtHeAd]

My husband and I smoke mostly bowls/pipes and bongs and our green lasts longer when we do it that way vs. when we roll up. LOL, however, I think it depends on the situation. If your smoking a J with people who hold it forever before passing then it burns WAY quick - which, usually when we burn J's with people is exactly what happens. I think its a preference thing, and really if your getting high, I agree its not a waste..but its really much nicer when it goes farther; unless money isn't an option, which would really be cool too, lol

Not really. If someone's got a J in their hand and they're not hitting it, it will most likly go out within about a minute and need to be lit again.

[CrAzYpOtHeAd]

A jay is ghetto and awesome so no its not a waste i like carrying around jays isntead of a baggy and bowl in my pocket find it handier to have pre-made jay rdy to go :)

take nug out bag, place in bowl. How much hard work can it be? alot more simple than having to roll a spliff and roll a lil cardboard filter thing.

[2pacwiggaforlife]

Filter? Pfft screw that. Trust me i have wielded the bowl it can be a bitch. a mini bic and a jay is were its at. Like i said before i make the jays in advance and then when i gotta go toking i bring with me the jays. expecially if ur like me and toke in public places pre-made joints rule. In other words when ur a yougin and toke behind dumpsters n shit like me lol. U need the joint so when your done u can walk home without carrying a dime bag and resin'd up bowl. I think i have explained enought lol :dance:

[CrAzYpOtHeAd]

Filter? Pfft screw that. Trust me i have wielded the bowl it can be a bitch. a mini bic and a jay is were its at. Like i said before i make the jays in advance and then when i gotta go toking i bring with me the jays. expecially if ur like me and toke in public places pre-made joints rule. In other words when ur a yougin and toke behind dumpsters n shit like me lol. U need the joint so when your done u can walk home without carrying a dime bag and resin'd up bowl. I think i have explained enought lol :dance:

one, its spelt *enough

two, by filter i meant a cardboard roll up, just incase you thought i meant something else.

Three, joint's still use more weed than pipes

four, although you say you roll them in advance, not everyone plan's when they are going out. Not everyone can get the chance to roll in advance, and even rolling in advance take's some time out.

four, carrying a small pipe in your pocket would'nt be that much hassel.

five, you should'nt smoke in public anyway if your in a country where weed is illegal

Basicly the only reason why some people prefer joint's is because it's more stylish and its also easier to relax with a joint in your hand rather than a bowl. But it still use's more weed.

[2pacwiggaforlife]

1. Why are you arguing with me? wtf?
2. Why do u make a list?
3. Dont triple post lol
4. Does it matter? I was posting what I thought was useful
5. I know how to spell "enough" correcting me does not make you look cooler or smarter.
6. You look like the guy from munich lol.
7. Four letters, gtfo

The thread was about how much jays kick ass; not about knit-picking everyones experience with how they conserve there weed. yes I know what a filter is. And am pretty sure LIP knows that if u roll it up to tight it wont be smokeable.

[CrAzYpOtHeAd]

1. Why are you arguing with me? wtf?
2. Why do u make a list?
3. Dont triple post lol
4. Does it matter? I was posting what I thought was useful
5. I know how to spell "enough" correcting me does not make you look cooler or smarter.
6. You look like the guy from munich lol.
7. Four letters, gtfo

The thread was about how much jays kick ass; not about knit-picking everyones experience with how they conserve there weed. yes I know what a filter is. And am pretty sure LIP knows that if u roll it up to tight it wont be smokeable.

1. im not arguing, im just talking about the SUBJECT
2. Because im pointing out the flaws of joints
3. why not?
4. I do know you were posting what YOU thought was usefull, and im just posting why i don't think its usefull
5. I did'nt know being able to spell made you seem cool? hmmm
6. very mature
7. No, mybe you should'nt take offense just because i've pointed out the fact that joints do use more weed and you can't handle it. four letters, wow. You can count... suprised.

I'm not arguing, im talking about weed. Mybe you should learn not to be a cry baby? ;)

[RevolverBlaze]

Just smoke it, we always got friends or resin to get us high when were out. Do the erb

[dopeman420]

it all wastes weed if u really dont wanna waste weed u gotta bust up ur bud and pack single tokes in the bong but i like joints they taste better and there more enjoyable to smoke

[GggGGGGGGGGGGGanja]

one, its spelt *enough

two, by filter i meant a cardboard roll up, just incase you thought i meant something else.

Three, joint's still use more weed than pipes

four, although you say you roll them in advance, not everyone plan's when they are going out. Not everyone can get the chance to roll in advance, and even rolling in advance take's some time out.

four, carrying a small pipe in your pocket would'nt be that much hassel.

five, you should'nt smoke in public anyway if your in a country where weed is illegal

Basicly the only reason why some people prefer joint's is because it's more stylish and its also easier to relax with a joint in your hand rather than a bowl. But it still use's more weed.

1. your not a crazy pot head

2. people prefer joints because its chillin

[Bob the Awesome]

one, its spelt *enough

two, by filter i meant a cardboard roll up, just incase you thought i meant something else.

Three, joint's still use more weed than pipes

four, although you say you roll them in advance, not everyone plan's when they are going out. Not everyone can get the chance to roll in advance, and even rolling in advance take's some time out.

four, carrying a small pipe in your pocket would'nt be that much hassel.

five, you should'nt smoke in public anyway if your in a country where weed is illegal

Basicly the only reason why some people prefer joint's is because it's more stylish and its also easier to relax with a joint in your hand rather than a bowl. But it still use's more weed.



"one, its spelt *enough" -Spelt is spelled spelled.

"two, by filter i meant a cardboard roll up, just incase you thought i meant something else." -In case is 2 words, not 1

"four, although you say you roll them in advance, not everyone plan's when they are going out. Not everyone can get the chance to roll in advance, and even rolling in advance take's some time out." -Get rid of the apostrophes in this sentence. It's plans, not plan's (which would mean "Plan is")

"four, carrying a small pipe in your pocket would'nt be that much hassel." -Again, with the apostrophes. It's wouldn't, not would'nt

It's really annoying when you're trying to make a point and someone sits there critiquing your grammar, isn't it?

[LIP]

Well, its people preferances. BUT:

It is common sense that a JOINT is more sociable than pipes/bongs.

That is why so many people prefer them.

My fav way to smoke weed is a joint, but i can just as happily smoke a bong/pipe.

I find smoking a joint more relaxing, as the act of smoking take longer, and i like to take my time and relax...

Hitting a bong is over in a few secs, and to me it aint as fun and using your skills to roll a joint and smoke it up...

And if you have a small room to hot-box then it dont waste weed anyways...

[duckfool]

"one, its spelt *enough" -Spelt is spelled spelled.

"two, by filter i meant a cardboard roll up, just incase you thought i meant something else." -In case is 2 words, not 1

"four, although you say you roll them in advance, not everyone plan's when they are going out. Not everyone can get the chance to roll in advance, and even rolling in advance take's some time out." -Get rid of the apostrophes in this sentence. It's plans, not plan's (which would mean "Plan is")

"four, carrying a small pipe in your pocket would'nt be that much hassel." -Again, with the apostrophes. It's wouldn't, not would'nt

It's really annoying when you're trying to make a point and someone sits there critiquing your grammar, isn't it?


crazypothead, i think you just got owned..

[cushy]

one, its spelt *enough

two, by filter i meant a cardboard roll up, just incase you thought i meant something else.

Three, joint's still use more weed than pipes

four, although you say you roll them in advance, not everyone plan's when they are going out. Not everyone can get the chance to roll in advance, and even rolling in advance take's some time out.

four, carrying a small pipe in your pocket would'nt be that much hassel.

five, you should'nt smoke in public anyway if your in a country where weed is illegal

Basicly the only reason why some people prefer joint's is because it's more stylish and its also easier to relax with a joint in your hand rather than a bowl. But it still use's more weed.


6..its spelled spelled...asshole

[scream]

Well, its people preferances. BUT:

It is common sense that a JOINT is more sociable than pipes/bongs.

That is why so many people prefer them.

My fav way to smoke weed is a joint, but i can just as happily smoke a bong/pipe.

I find smoking a joint more relaxing, as the act of smoking take longer, and i like to take my time and relax...

Hitting a bong is over in a few secs, and to me it aint as fun and using your skills to roll a joint and smoke it up...

And if you have a small room to hot-box then it dont waste weed anyways...

lipis a smart guy, you should listen to him

[ChronicMike]

step 1: take nug from bag ,
step 2: break nug up(remove seeds and stems)
step 3: pull paper out and roll the fuckin joint.
step 4:smoke a nice fat burnable jay.

was that hard?. no everyone or anyone can roll a jay its the easiest thing in the world. o well i was just saying what my preferneces and starting a debate.

[CrAzYpOtHeAd]

1. your not a crazy pot head

2. people prefer joints because its chillin

Thats what i said.... :confused: lol

[CrAzYpOtHeAd]

"one, its spelt *enough" -Spelt is spelled spelled.

"two, by filter i meant a cardboard roll up, just incase you thought i meant something else." -In case is 2 words, not 1

"four, although you say you roll them in advance, not everyone plan's when they are going out. Not everyone can get the chance to roll in advance, and even rolling in advance take's some time out." -Get rid of the apostrophes in this sentence. It's plans, not plan's (which would mean "Plan is")

"four, carrying a small pipe in your pocket would'nt be that much hassel." -Again, with the apostrophes. It's wouldn't, not would'nt

It's really annoying when you're trying to make a point and someone sits there critiquing your grammar, isn't it?

My point was actually that joints do use more weed.

[CrAzYpOtHeAd]

6..its spelled spelled...asshole

Spelt is a word. Moron.

[b33w]

Spelt is a word. Moron.

um no your the moron, spelled is spelt...just looked it up in the dictionary (i don't know why, im high:rasta: )

and i love joints, they don't waste much weed as long as you shred it up and dont back small nugs.

[CrAzYpOtHeAd]

um no your the moron, spelled is spelt...just looked it up in the dictionary (i don't know why, im high:rasta: )

and i love joints, they don't waste much weed as long as you shred it up and dont back small nugs.

I have done. Spelt is another word for spelled, so it is STILL a word, and "you don't waste much weed as long as you shred it up"

shred it up? wtf? its not paper dude.

[WeedLovingVeteran]

hes stoned leave the poor fellow alone :)

[doctor G]

In Defense of the Joint:rasta:

There are as many ways to smoke herb as there are people that smoke it. And each one of us has his, or her, own preference. Some prefer one hit pipes, some a bong or water pipe. Others have a favorite Chilum, or antler or briar. Some use mirchum, others have a carved stone. Each person has their own reason and logic for the choice they have made.
And then there is the joint. Like other implements, joints come in as many flavors and types as the people that smoke them. There are plain papers, there are flavored papers, there are white or yellow. Some papers are â??slow burningâ?� others are â??all naturalâ?�. Some papers as sized to make a cigarette sized smoke others are for larger smokes. There are pre glued tubes and cones, there are all manner of ways to hold herb to be smoked.
Over the past thirty five years I have used virtually every manner of smoking process. I have used the simple ( â??hot knifingâ?�; heat a butter knife until itâ??s red hot then press it into a small pile of herb on a non flammable surface), to a â??PROTO Pipeâ?� or hookas, water pipes and vaporizers. My personal preference has drifted back to the simple joint.
I prefer joints because itâ??s all there in one place. Nothing to add, no separate stash, nothing to drop or break. No screen to wear out. I can keep a joint and one kitchen match in a waterproof container and when the time is right everything is there. The wind wonâ??t whip the weed out of my bowl. If I drop it, it wonâ??t break. If I am approached by law enforcement itâ??s eatable; all in all itâ??s the simplest and most elegant method of obtaining my buzz.
There are many choices of rolling papers and as I get older and more aware of my health I have become much more picky about what goes into my body. When I was younger I tried the flavored papers. They left an interesting flavor on the lips but did nasty things to the flavor of the herb. I used slow burning papers (more sanitary than licking the whole thing) but didnâ??t like how they accomplished the process. Iâ??ve used the old stand by, Zig Zagâ??s or the Bugle papers that came in a bag of tobacco. But as the years passed and I read more and more about how different chemicals affect the human body in the long term; I chose to seek out a less hazardous wrap.
After extensive testing I settled on unbleached rice papers; plain, clean burning. As I read more about the processes and chemicals used in glues I settled on glueless, pure rice, unbleached, standard sized papers. Now it must be understood I am not a spokesman for any company, but as my researches continued I found a brand called Club made the cleanest and least dangerous papers for my joints. Now when I smoke that is the paper of choice for me.
I understand the other views; my sons have a wonderful collection of glass pipes and they insist they are superior. And I agree, they do not impart a flavor, they do not corrode and send deadly fumes deep into the lungs like some metals. But they are so damn fragile and you still need to put a metal screen in them. Most screens are cheap brass and the reason you have to replace them is because they corrode in the extreme temperatures and the presence of oxygen, so there is still a minor amount of metallic poison being deposited in your lungs. Screens are the problem with many pipes, stone and ceramic. While the base material may not react to the heat and oxygen the screens always do. Some screens can be found that are high temperature and non reacting but access to such material is very limited for the average person.
Yes, vaporizers have gotten past most of that, but the heating elements are still subject to at least a small amount of corrosion and while it is less than the corrosion of a screen it is still present and potentially a contaminant to the lungs. While the amounts in question may be minuscule, over a lifetime like mine of smoking (thirty five years and at least twenty more to go) the eventual build up may have unintended consequences.
Water pipes and bongs I hear the crowd call. Well yes, the water does filter out many of the heavier tars and pollutants. But, unfortunately, THC is water soluble and some of your high is left in that nasty mung water as you draw the smoke through. Using alcohol (drinking not rubbing) in a bong is no better, itâ??s actually worse as the THC is even more soluble in ethanol. Rubbing alcohol can be used to clean pipes but should never be ingested as it is poisonous and if you are lucky it will blind you and if you are not it will kill you. Donâ??t even think about methanol or other wood alcoholâ??s, equally fatal. Good cleaning compounds, but fatal to the human body.
Well wait, I hear people say, what about the waste as the joint burns and you are passing it around? When you are really stoned; and have been for thirty five years, that sort of thing gets looked at. I have taken measurements of joints as they burn and found that the actual amount of â??lossâ?� while passing is one to three percent of the overall volume of the cylinder. By weight with a one gram joint (a pretty good sized fatty by anyoneâ??s standards) the â??lossâ?� is between one and three one hundredths of a gram. Not really enough to get high from and honestly not enough to register on a THC test.
Joints go out when you arenâ??t hitting them. So when you are stoned enough thereâ??s no danger of setting fire to the couch or the floor. The back half of a joints acts as a filter for the front half and the back half burns measurably slower as the collected tars and resins retard the burning speed of the herb. If you are really concerned about the health aspects of the tars and resins you can use a cigarette filter holder to collect the tars and resins in a filter media before it gets to your lungs. Research has shown that cannabis tars and resins do not contain the deadly nicotine that kills your lung cilia and is water soluble. That means if you do stop smoking for a while ( three to six months) the tars and resins in your lungs will dissolve and be expelled naturally.
So if you find yourself smoking with me, break out the ungummed Clubâ??s and roll a nice one.

How to Roll a Joint (Gumless)
Start by cleaning the herb thoroughly. Remove all extraneous matter, no stems, no seeds. Break the weed up into a consistent sized material. Larger chunks burn slower and will cause a joint to run, finer dust like material will burn slower as well and also cause the joint to run. The more consistent the size of the material the more consistent the rate of burn. Take your rolling paper and fold in along the quarter line lengthwise, making a trough between the quarter line and the mid line fold. Into this trough place enough weed to fill the trough to overflowing. Holding the paper on one end with a finger ( index) in the trough use your other finger to separate the herb into two piles, with a gap to the bottom in the middle. Now using your thumb and three fingers on each end start at the piles and roll toward the center. Your thumbs should tuck the small part under the long part and your fingers can roll back towards the ends. When less than one eighth of the long edge is still un rolled lick along that edge, moistening both the edge and the surface it will touch. Gently bring the two surfaces together and allow them to dry. Handled carefully this bond will hold for time required to finish the joint. If you are having trouble passing these joints put a clip on them and hold them by the clip.
Like learning to play the piano practice make perfect and unlike the piano the practice here is a lot of fun. So get out there and practice, practice, practice!!


Rolling a spliff
I encountered spliffs in the Caribbean in the early 80â??s. Take a piece of corn husk, the sweeter the better. Allow it to dry thoroughly. Take a good quantity of herb, several grams at least, and prepare it as if you were rolling several joints. No stems, equal sized pieces. Cut or shred the weed to bring it to a uniform consistency. Trim the corn husk to about the proportions of a rolling paper, only two to three times standard size. Using another husk pull several fibers off one end and keep them handy. After filling the husk with enough weed to comfortably roll produce the cylinder and hold it with one hand. Now this gets a bit tricky. Take one of the fibers you tore off another husk and wrap it around the cylinder you just rolled. Using your free hand and teeth ( or a friend if oneâ??s available) tie the fiber in a square knot ( any knot will do but the square knot puts less strain on the fiber; and itâ??s a use for that Boy Scout Knot Course) around the middle of the cylinder. Prepare three or four more strands and fit them to the cylinder in equal measures from end to end. When you get done you have a cylinder of corn husk, stuffed with weed. Pack the ends with a kitchen match or similar object and then.....wait for it....apply the flame to one end. While inhaling of course. Totally organic, mostly non toxic and because you stuffed it with three grams of kind bud, really really stoning. Easy to pass because itâ??s large and well made it should burn for at least ten to fifteen minutes. More than long enough to go around the room once and make people stare! My sons and I smoke one of these when our garden ripens and it gives us something to look forward to when we harvest our corn.

You may also enjoy The Tenth Generation Joint, and other threads I have posted on this subject.

Doctor G

[CrAzYpOtHeAd]

In Defense of the Joint:rasta:

There are as many ways to smoke herb as there are people that smoke it. And each one of us has his, or her, own preference. Some prefer one hit pipes, some a bong or water pipe. Others have a favorite Chilum, or antler or briar. Some use mirchum, others have a carved stone. Each person has their own reason and logic for the choice they have made.
And then there is the joint. Like other implements, joints come in as many flavors and types as the people that smoke them. There are plain papers, there are flavored papers, there are white or yellow. Some papers are â??slow burningâ?� others are â??all naturalâ?�. Some papers as sized to make a cigarette sized smoke others are for larger smokes. There are pre glued tubes and cones, there are all manner of ways to hold herb to be smoked.
Over the past thirty five years I have used virtually every manner of smoking process. I have used the simple ( â??hot knifingâ?�; heat a butter knife until itâ??s red hot then press it into a small pile of herb on a non flammable surface), to a â??PROTO Pipeâ?� or hookas, water pipes and vaporizers. My personal preference has drifted back to the simple joint.
I prefer joints because itâ??s all there in one place. Nothing to add, no separate stash, nothing to drop or break. No screen to wear out. I can keep a joint and one kitchen match in a waterproof container and when the time is right everything is there. The wind wonâ??t whip the weed out of my bowl. If I drop it, it wonâ??t break. If I am approached by law enforcement itâ??s eatable; all in all itâ??s the simplest and most elegant method of obtaining my buzz.
There are many choices of rolling papers and as I get older and more aware of my health I have become much more picky about what goes into my body. When I was younger I tried the flavored papers. They left an interesting flavor on the lips but did nasty things to the flavor of the herb. I used slow burning papers (more sanitary than licking the whole thing) but didnâ??t like how they accomplished the process. Iâ??ve used the old stand by, Zig Zagâ??s or the Bugle papers that came in a bag of tobacco. But as the years passed and I read more and more about how different chemicals affect the human body in the long term; I chose to seek out a less hazardous wrap.
After extensive testing I settled on unbleached rice papers; plain, clean burning. As I read more about the processes and chemicals used in glues I settled on glueless, pure rice, unbleached, standard sized papers. Now it must be understood I am not a spokesman for any company, but as my researches continued I found a brand called Club made the cleanest and least dangerous papers for my joints. Now when I smoke that is the paper of choice for me.
I understand the other views; my sons have a wonderful collection of glass pipes and they insist they are superior. And I agree, they do not impart a flavor, they do not corrode and send deadly fumes deep into the lungs like some metals. But they are so damn fragile and you still need to put a metal screen in them. Most screens are cheap brass and the reason you have to replace them is because they corrode in the extreme temperatures and the presence of oxygen, so there is still a minor amount of metallic poison being deposited in your lungs. Screens are the problem with many pipes, stone and ceramic. While the base material may not react to the heat and oxygen the screens always do. Some screens can be found that are high temperature and non reacting but access to such material is very limited for the average person.
Yes, vaporizers have gotten past most of that, but the heating elements are still subject to at least a small amount of corrosion and while it is less than the corrosion of a screen it is still present and potentially a contaminant to the lungs. While the amounts in question may be minuscule, over a lifetime like mine of smoking (thirty five years and at least twenty more to go) the eventual build up may have unintended consequences.
Water pipes and bongs I hear the crowd call. Well yes, the water does filter out many of the heavier tars and pollutants. But, unfortunately, THC is water soluble and some of your high is left in that nasty mung water as you draw the smoke through. Using alcohol (drinking not rubbing) in a bong is no better, itâ??s actually worse as the THC is even more soluble in ethanol. Rubbing alcohol can be used to clean pipes but should never be ingested as it is poisonous and if you are lucky it will blind you and if you are not it will kill you. Donâ??t even think about methanol or other wood alcoholâ??s, equally fatal. Good cleaning compounds, but fatal to the human body.
Well wait, I hear people say, what about the waste as the joint burns and you are passing it around? When you are really stoned; and have been for thirty five years, that sort of thing gets looked at. I have taken measurements of joints as they burn and found that the actual amount of â??lossâ?� while passing is one to three percent of the overall volume of the cylinder. By weight with a one gram joint (a pretty good sized fatty by anyoneâ??s standards) the â??lossâ?� is between one and three one hundredths of a gram. Not really enough to get high from and honestly not enough to register on a THC test.
Joints go out when you arenâ??t hitting them. So when you are stoned enough thereâ??s no danger of setting fire to the couch or the floor. The back half of a joints acts as a filter for the front half and the back half burns measurably slower as the collected tars and resins retard the burning speed of the herb. If you are really concerned about the health aspects of the tars and resins you can use a cigarette filter holder to collect the tars and resins in a filter media before it gets to your lungs. Research has shown that cannabis tars and resins do not contain the deadly nicotine that kills your lung cilia and is water soluble. That means if you do stop smoking for a while ( three to six months) the tars and resins in your lungs will dissolve and be expelled naturally.
So if you find yourself smoking with me, break out the ungummed Clubâ??s and roll a nice one.

How to Roll a Joint (Gumless)
Start by cleaning the herb thoroughly. Remove all extraneous matter, no stems, no seeds. Break the weed up into a consistent sized material. Larger chunks burn slower and will cause a joint to run, finer dust like material will burn slower as well and also cause the joint to run. The more consistent the size of the material the more consistent the rate of burn. Take your rolling paper and fold in along the quarter line lengthwise, making a trough between the quarter line and the mid line fold. Into this trough place enough weed to fill the trough to overflowing. Holding the paper on one end with a finger ( index) in the trough use your other finger to separate the herb into two piles, with a gap to the bottom in the middle. Now using your thumb and three fingers on each end start at the piles and roll toward the center. Your thumbs should tuck the small part under the long part and your fingers can roll back towards the ends. When less than one eighth of the long edge is still un rolled lick along that edge, moistening both the edge and the surface it will touch. Gently bring the two surfaces together and allow them to dry. Handled carefully this bond will hold for time required to finish the joint. If you are having trouble passing these joints put a clip on them and hold them by the clip.
Like learning to play the piano practice make perfect and unlike the piano the practice here is a lot of fun. So get out there and practice, practice, practice!!


Rolling a spliff
I encountered spliffs in the Caribbean in the early 80â??s. Take a piece of corn husk, the sweeter the better. Allow it to dry thoroughly. Take a good quantity of herb, several grams at least, and prepare it as if you were rolling several joints. No stems, equal sized pieces. Cut or shred the weed to bring it to a uniform consistency. Trim the corn husk to about the proportions of a rolling paper, only two to three times standard size. Using another husk pull several fibers off one end and keep them handy. After filling the husk with enough weed to comfortably roll produce the cylinder and hold it with one hand. Now this gets a bit tricky. Take one of the fibers you tore off another husk and wrap it around the cylinder you just rolled. Using your free hand and teeth ( or a friend if oneâ??s available) tie the fiber in a square knot ( any knot will do but the square knot puts less strain on the fiber; and itâ??s a use for that Boy Scout Knot Course) around the middle of the cylinder. Prepare three or four more strands and fit them to the cylinder in equal measures from end to end. When you get done you have a cylinder of corn husk, stuffed with weed. Pack the ends with a kitchen match or similar object and then.....wait for it....apply the flame to one end. While inhaling of course. Totally organic, mostly non toxic and because you stuffed it with three grams of kind bud, really really stoning. Easy to pass because itâ??s large and well made it should burn for at least ten to fifteen minutes. More than long enough to go around the room once and make people stare! My sons and I smoke one of these when our garden ripens and it gives us something to look forward to when we harvest our corn.

You may also enjoy The Tenth Generation Joint, and other threads I have posted on this subject.

Doctor G


I'm not gonna bother reading that.... considering i already know how to roll a joint. But damn, someone sure has put alot of effort in lol :thumbsup:

[kaneda7777]

step 1: take nug from bag ,
step 2: break nug up(remove seeds and stems)
step 3: pull paper out and roll the fuckin joint.
step 4:smoke a nice fat burnable jay.

was that hard?. no everyone or anyone can roll a jay its the easiest thing in the world. o well i was just saying what my preferneces and starting a debate.



Ahhhhh dude seriously i wish it was that easy my bloody thumbs dont work i dont smoke cigs so ill admit i really really suck at rolling joints i always roll them too tight or too loose and it plain just takes me too fuckin long!

However i gotta say Joints feel very sociable theres nothing cooler than passing a joint to your best buddy whos next to you !!!

but

i fuckin love to watch my mates get totally ripped from the bong!!

its all good guys ;)

hehe i actually just bought a pipe the other day and im so so suprised how effective they are! it really does hit me fast with a pipe!

peace guys!

[b33w]

I have done. Spelt is another word for spelled, so it is STILL a word, and "you don't waste much weed as long as you shred it up"

shred it up? wtf? its not paper dude.

ok you swear you are so smart. spelt is not another word for spelled, it may be some internet slang version but it is not a real word.

and yes you have to shred up weed before rolling a joint. even ChronicMike said 'step 2: break nug up(remove seeds and stems)'. would you honestly roll up nugs in a joint? now that would be a huge waste. but i guess 'its not paper' so that would be the right way.

[da highest]

Crazypothead

Three Words

Suck my balls

[CrAzYpOtHeAd]

ok you swear you are so smart. spelt is not another word for spelled, it may be some internet slang version but it is not a real word.

and yes you have to shred up weed before rolling a joint. even ChronicMike said 'step 2: break nug up(remove seeds and stems)'. would you honestly roll up nugs in a joint? now that would be a huge waste. but i guess 'its not paper' so that would be the right way.

Never said i was smart, quote one post where i claimed i was smart? Also, shred give's people the wrong idear, yes, chronicmike said BREAK nug up.

But i still think joint's use more weed than pipes and bongs, why do you have to get so offended? unless you use tabaco its gonna use a hell of a lot more weed.

[CrAzYpOtHeAd]

Crazypothead

Three Words

Suck my balls

Wow... the 13 year old's sure do know how to show somebody. "suck my balls"... wow, thats mature. :rolleyes:

[b33w]

Never said i was smart, quote one post where i claimed i was smart? Also, shred give's people the wrong idear, yes, chronicmike said BREAK nug up.

But i still think joint's use more weed than pipes and bongs, why do you have to get so offended? unless you use tabaco its gonna use a hell of a lot more weed.

shut up already jeez.....you honestly think i'm giving the wrong idea by saying shred instead of break? come on....

and no, once again, it does not use a lot more weed. 1 bowl can equal 1 joint if you shred (yes, shred or break or whatever you want to call it) up the nug making it fit better into the joint.

[CrAzYpOtHeAd]

and no, once again, it does not use a lot more weed. 1 bowl can equal 1 joint if you shred (yes, shred or break or whatever you want to call it) up the nug making it fit better into the joint.

I disagree with you. Dos'nt mean you have to flame about it. If your talking about king size paper's then it will still use more weed because i can have a pretty small bowl and still get pretty baked and have a nice joint and still i won't get anymore stoned, and my stash always last me longer when i use my pipe.

[toothpaste100]

It honestly doesn't matter what you use as long as you are using a cherry in the pipe and not just roasting it with your lighter, people who argue a different high are kidding themselves.

pipes= lazy fuckers like me
joints= people who are good with their hands and think ahead

[CrAzYpOtHeAd]

I do like joint's. I tend to smoke huge joint's on saturdays. But the whole subject of this thread is "if you roll the joint right it won't waste weed". It dos'nt really "waste" weed, but it still use's more weed. They're more fun to smoke but when im trying to conserve i find my pipe works better.

[b33w]

I do like joint's. I tend to smoke huge joint's on saturdays. But the whole subject of this thread is "if you roll the joint right it won't waste weed". It dos'nt really "waste" weed, but it still use's more weed. They're more fun to smoke but when im trying to conserve i find my pipe works better.

FUCK!

okay lets drop it already. your opinion is that you would rather use your pipe because it 'conserves' your weed. now lets stop posting on this thread which should of died days ago.

[CrAzYpOtHeAd]

FUCK!

okay lets drop it already. your opinion is that you would rather use your pipe because it 'conserves' your weed. now lets stop posting on this thread which should of died days ago.

So why'd u just post on it? lmao.

[bayareapothead5]

lol yea i second that Crazypothead(not so crazy in retrospect)(i dont know what retrospect means,lol)(im hella stoned) got owned....yea....

[da highest]

^^^lol

[NextLineIsMine]

It doesnt take much logic to tell that jays obviously are less efficent, but it isnt all about the efficency.

A joint is just so much chiller

[ChronicMike]

i was stuck like chuck when i made this thread so heres the sober version.

a finely rolled joint really doesnt waste weed.
ive smoked out of spoons before and they pack close too a gram.
but who cares LETS GET STONED.

[CrAzYpOtHeAd]

i was stuck like chuck when i made this thread so heres the sober version.

a finely rolled joint really doesnt waste weed.
ive smoked out of spoons before and they pack close too a gram.
but who cares LETS GET STONED.

I'm still confused. I mean, mybe its the way you roll them but the way I roll them (so i can enjoy them to the full) use's more weed than if i lit up a bowl. But all in all, who gives a shit? as long as you get stoned thats all that matters :thumbsup: