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GratefulDead4ever
04-14-2006, 04:54 PM
This is what happened to me yesterday and how god existed to save me so i had a second chance at life


Yesterday school had just let out and i decided to take the route 309 home from school i was traveling in excess of 100 mph which i did not consider fast i was stupid as could be but i had my seat belt and jesus on my side i was traveling along when someone cut in front of me then next thing you know i tried to dodge them but they cut back i slammed the breaks but i ended swirving so fast i hit the embackment on the side and hit the hill my whole life flashed in front of me my first smoking hit my first birthday this was all happening when i rolled my car 6 times and some flippin the car was compacted 1/3 it normal size i look up to see people bangin on the door 4 people sourounding me some questioning if i was alive or not the car is totalled i got out and i see a guy praying whoever spanish people pray to but he was speaking in spanish to god i started crying and wanted to die cause my car was my life i then find my self black out again and i am flippin out next thing you know the ambulance crew arrives i hear my chances of surroving the crash was any where from 1 out of 100 or 1 out of 1000 they called me a miracle i couldnt stop crying its hard for me to remember some parts but i dont know if i actually saw god all i know is if you saw this crash it would make you believe in god i was in perfect condition after the crash just a bruise on my head and a seat belt burn is all i had i just thought i would share that with you guys cause believe me somone is out their watching over us and he is real cause i would be dead if he wasnt. i remember when i was still delerious i told one of the doctors rather angrily that his tools dont save lives they just help a little and i said gods the one that saves lives and it sounded like he almost cried and he is like your absolutely right he does save lives.

All i can say is be thankful for what you have i learned never to speed the hard way.

mont974x4
04-14-2006, 08:30 PM
Cool testimony

GratefulDead4ever
04-14-2006, 10:30 PM
thanks man its hard right now
when you see visions of your funeral every minute

mont974x4
04-14-2006, 10:41 PM
Yep, been there. Buried a lot of friends too. Gotta step back now and again and see what He's doing. I sat down last Spring and wrote down all the tough times I thought would be impossible to overcome and the times that I should have died. Then I wrote down what He did and how He carried me through.

I know many on this site don't believe and think its all a fairytale but I have no doubts.

DylanN89
04-14-2006, 10:45 PM
yea man take it easy on the speed...im glad ur okay but let this be a learning lesson not to go 100.... i mean u havta have self-control.

GratefulDead4ever
04-15-2006, 01:02 AM
i know i am never goin to go that fast again i dont think i also know that if i do go that fast it will be in Gran Turismo not on the real road

Shelbay
04-15-2006, 05:11 AM
Yep, been there. Buried a lot of friends too. Gotta step back now and again and see what He's doing. I sat down last Spring and wrote down all the tough times I thought would be impossible to overcome and the times that I should have died. Then I wrote down what He did and how He carried me through.

I know many on this site don't believe and think its all a fairytale but I have no doubts.
There are alot of agnostics on here..I think thats the word for no beliefs..I believe in God and sometimes I read all kinds of reasoning and explanations why there is no God but I know he is real..and will always believe in him and that Jesus died for all of us. Any time I have been around unexpected tragedies..it seemed like when someone knew they were going to die..they would always call Gods name..all colors,sizes,different ages,men,women etc..all of them called his name...true. I just felt like I needed to acknowledge him and my belief. Just started reading this thread because of the title..glad I did...glad your okay Grateful..you sound happy and grateful.

Oneironaut
04-15-2006, 05:53 AM
So God doesn't care about other people who have died in horrible car wrecks as much as he cares about you?

Polymirize
04-15-2006, 08:46 AM
Way to go Oneironaut... Way to miss the point entirely.


And Grateful, way to narrowly escape becoming a statistic. Stay Grateful.
:thumbsup:

GratefulDead4ever
04-15-2006, 02:41 PM
i will man thanks for all those who listened i am really grateful

the image reaper
04-15-2006, 07:37 PM
its always interesting to see the atheists are the people that are so paranoid about government conspiracies, police states, invasions from outer space, and God knows what else ... if they accepted the Lord's love, they wouldn't be so scared of everything ... would love to be a fly on the wall, when those people are on their deathbeds, I bet they'll start believing then ... unbelievers need to listen to some combat veterans ... "no atheists in foxholes" ... just my two cents ... :smokin:

Jeff Spicoli
04-15-2006, 07:40 PM
If there was a god, of all people, a pot smoking rule breaking dude would not be saved. There is no such thing as god, it was pure luck that you didn't die.

JunkYard
04-15-2006, 08:02 PM
I don't know ...There might be something to it?

When death is staring you in the face, you would be amazed at how it can turn a man towards God.

Be grateful, man! ;)

GratefulDead4ever
04-15-2006, 08:11 PM
all of these points i didnt consider but they all make good valid points idk what to say i just know that something saved me and it may have been luck but i got pretty lucky then.

Jeff Spicoli
04-15-2006, 08:18 PM
divine intervention

graymatter
04-15-2006, 08:55 PM
all of these points i didnt consider but they all make good valid points idk what to say i just know that something saved me and it may have been luck but i got pretty lucky then.

Hey, good you're alive. You're one fortunate dude. I've lost friends and family to accidents that seemed less destructive than what you describe.

I'm not trying to go against the grain here but it's tough to make peace with probability and statistics... they fuck us and save us every day. Looks like you just shot your "probability wad" in that crash, which will make it even more unlikely that you'll ever win the lottery. :(

But if you keep driving 100 mph on public streets, your odds of dying in a crash or killing someone else are exponentially higher than, say, most people.

GratefulDead4ever
04-15-2006, 09:06 PM
dude i was just thinking bout my odds of anything like the lottery and i dont care really cause i got my life and can walk and i am thankful for everything that i am still here i feel like a new man and i dont think i will be doing 100 ever again

chris40
04-16-2006, 12:36 AM
So I guess God doesn't bother protecting the millions of people who do die in car accidents each year?:rolleyes:

Jeff Spicoli
04-16-2006, 01:14 AM
regardless, at least this guy lived

kaneda7777
04-16-2006, 01:36 AM
Tomorrow my friend when you wake up the breakfast cereal you eat will be the best youve ever tasted!

Im glad your ok dude :)

Dont forget you got a second chance! Theres a reason why that is!

:)

thebathroom
04-16-2006, 03:28 AM
You think you saw god?

poorprincess
04-16-2006, 02:25 PM
... if they accepted the Lord's love, they wouldn't be so scared of everything ... would love to be a fly on the wall, when those people are on their deathbeds, I bet they'll start believing then ... :

I find that comment offensive. I dont believe in God. But I wish I could. Because you people that do believe in God have a beautiful gift, you have JOY that we faithless can never know. And you throw it in our faces as if we turned God away on purpose! YOU are the HAVES and WE are the HAVE NOTS. Ours is the way of pain and suffering. Yours is the way of security in the knowlege that your God is watching, pushing, helping and everything will turn out all right because he loves you.

JunkYard
04-16-2006, 07:12 PM
I find that comment offensive. I dont believe in God. But I wish I could. Because you people that do believe in God have a beautiful gift, you have JOY that we faithless can never know. And you throw it in our faces as if we turned God away on purpose! YOU are the HAVES and WE are the HAVE NOTS. Ours is the way of pain and suffering. Yours is the way of security in the knowlege that your God is watching, pushing, helping and everything will turn out all right because he loves you.

I'm I firm believer that those who do not believe in God simply can't. Even so, the fact that you do not believe, doesn't mean that this causes your pain, and suffering. It has nothing to do with God, it has to do with you, and how you approach life.

The beleivers have only one thing that you do not; they have the belief that they will live forever.

I find my comfort in the way I choose to live, not by what I believe in...

Shelbay
04-16-2006, 08:22 PM
My belief in God give gives me strength much more than comfort..just because a christian believes in God..their faith..does not mean we do not have tragedies..but he has carried me through some experiences of life that I KNOW without him..I would be in an institution or dead. I have a good life now..by earths definition but most important I am learning Peace Of Mind.

Polymirize
04-16-2006, 09:35 PM
The beleivers have only one thing that you do not; they have the belief that they will live forever.


Alternately, the believers are intimately aware of the inavoidability of their own death. And so life takes on a very different meaning.

poorprincess
04-16-2006, 10:43 PM
the fact that you do not believe, doesn't mean that this causes your pain, and suffering. It has nothing to do with God, it has to do with you, and how you approach life.


God doesn't cause me anything because I dont believe in him. But I'm not ashamed to say I'm jealous of you beacuse you have the divine gift that is God.

JunkYard
04-17-2006, 12:36 AM
Some may disagree, but if you want the divine gift of God, one only need to know this:


1 John 4:7-8

7. Beloved, let us love one another: for love is of God; and every one that loveth is born of God, and knoweth God.
8. He that loveth not, knoweth not God; for God is love.

No need to be jealous, poorprincess. If you know love at all, then you know God. Some will say that God is more than love, but I don't know the reality of this. I believe that God is the source behind love, and when you embrace love, you actually embrace the source. ;)

No need to create an abstract image of what God is, or isn't; you only need to embrace the gift that is God...Love!

(IMO)

Peace,

PureEvil760
04-17-2006, 02:27 AM
I dont know, maybe poetry?

2pacwiggaforlife
04-17-2006, 03:47 AM
Damn man dont waste ur second chance and become somebody!

PureEvil760
04-17-2006, 04:24 AM
I am already god, who else would I be?

PureEvil760
04-17-2006, 05:54 AM
I find that comment offensive. I dont believe in God. But I wish I could. Because you people that do believe in God have a beautiful gift, you have JOY that we faithless can never know. And you throw it in our faces as if we turned God away on purpose! YOU are the HAVES and WE are the HAVE NOTS. Ours is the way of pain and suffering. Yours is the way of security in the knowlege that your God is watching, pushing, helping and everything will turn out all right because he loves you.

I just have to flame this hardcore, sorry. - Alright I dont really give a fuck if you believe in god or not, I have suffered pretty much non-stop since I learned how to walk, All my memorys are of suffering, my whole life is just suffering ok? Yes I believe in god, but that probably stopped me from moving on, you dont have to go through what I did so shut the fuck up and love yourself above all else, become acsended. Right now at this moment ur world is completely filled to the brim with LIES I lie, he lies. We are virtually incapable of making a correct statement. You want what I have bitch? well you already got it..now love it. Security? now that is funny. PEACE :confused:

F L E S H
04-17-2006, 03:01 PM
Because you survive an accident, you're convinced God exists? Like Oneironaut said, what about the hundreds who die everyday in horrible accidents, be they on the road, or anywhere else?

Let me tell you something, I survived cancer and that experience only confirmed to me that indeed there is no God; life, disease, death, accidents, are COMPLETELY random. When you're sitting in a room getting chemo for a few hours every week, you sit and watch the other people in there with you.... The old, the young, the middle-aged, the women, the men, the kids, the good, the bad and the ugly...... Death can strike anyone at any time.

Just because YOU survived doen't mean God is on your side, that is an extremely selfish sentiment. It only means that you survived, that you're LUCKY.

Shelbay
04-18-2006, 12:04 PM
FLESH...I also survived cancer (leukemia) and I give ALL thanks to God and MJ:) I know he is there for me..and everyone has to die...moving on is sad for us left behind but death is a part of living so please don't judge someone selfish for giving thanks to God! Survival has made me who I am and made me a stronger person so your saying God kept you from moving on? Well that is your right but don't call those of us that have our power through him and thank him him as being selfish.Thank You.

F L E S H
04-18-2006, 04:27 PM
FLESH...I also survived cancer (leukemia) and I give ALL thanks to God and MJ:) I know he is there for me..and everyone has to die...moving on is sad for us left behind but death is a part of living so please don't judge someone selfish for giving thanks to God! Survival has made me who I am and made me a stronger person so your saying God kept you from moving on? Well that is your right but don't call those of us that have our power through him and thank him him as being selfish.Thank You.

Glad to see there's other survivors! I had Hodgkin's, chemo and radiation are real bitches...

Shelbay, YOU survived cancer. YOU overcame it, with your own strength. It is your will to survival that helps you through sickness and injury, not God. There is nothing more empowering than realizing that you have more power than any religion would lead to to believe: they all ask to pray to some divinity to get through life's trials, when you are infact simply praying to your self, to your inner strength. I didn't mean to single anyone out when I said that thanking God for survivng whatever is selfish. In fact, religion itself is a very selfish process.

the image reaper
04-18-2006, 05:48 PM
I find that comment offensive. I dont believe in God. But I wish I could. Because you people that do believe in God have a beautiful gift, you have JOY that we faithless can never know. And you throw it in our faces as if we turned God away on purpose! YOU are the HAVES and WE are the HAVE NOTS. Ours is the way of pain and suffering. Yours is the way of security in the knowlege that your God is watching, pushing, helping and everything will turn out all right because he loves you.


my comment was not meant to be offensive, please don't think I gloat over anyone's misery ... your reply was extremely intelligent, and showed genuine sincerity, you may be closer to accepting God's Gift, than you think ... God Bless you ... :)

Shelbay
04-18-2006, 11:21 PM
Glad to see there's other survivors! I had Hodgkin's, chemo and radiation are real bitches...

Shelbay, YOU survived cancer. YOU overcame it, with your own strength. It is your will to survival that helps you through sickness and injury, not God. There is nothing more empowering than realizing that you have more power than any religion would lead to to believe: they all ask to pray to some divinity to get through life's trials, when you are infact simply praying to your self, to your inner strength. I didn't mean to single anyone out when I said that thanking God for survivng whatever is selfish. In fact, religion itself is a very selfish process.
I had my treatments at UAB..my Oncologist was the best! I have been in remission for about 5 years now..but recently started small changes in my red cells and tired again...but I think its just all about money so I self medicate and I am sooo healthy!!:) God gave me peace..but I know now that I am not scared of going on..I was so sick but I just had a warm peaceful feeling looking out the window one day and he was WAS there for me! I know he is:thumbsup: But I respect and do read your beliefs..thanks you for being nice debating with no name calling,,thanks.:thumbsup:

xblackdogx
04-19-2006, 01:59 AM
i'm glad you're okay
but w/ a comment like:
"whoever spanish people pray to" ...
seems like your ignorant of the God that you believe exists and his guidance.
do not get divine intervention confused with safety precautions [seat belts, air bags, etc] used to prevent deaths in automobile accidents

PureEvil760
04-19-2006, 02:42 AM
Well some flesh is gonna burn soon. Break it down SeanPaul - "We be burnin not concernin what nobody wanna say."

AmericanTerrorist
04-19-2006, 04:16 AM
Maybe all the people that die in car wrecks were supposed to die at that time, was their fate. Maybe Gratefuldead has a purpose in life he hasnt accomplished yet so he was spared, who knows... I dont follow any religion but I am spiritual and believe in God. I believe God is in you at your core, whatever that force/energy that makes you tick. After many near death experiences like Gratefuldead's you realize that your(or just me) drawn toward a type of moment of salvation when your looking at death before you. I took from those experiences that I wasnt right with myself and God because If I was I shouldnt have been afraid of death at the moment and had those feelings of needing urgent salvation. I use mushrooms to have spirtual experiences now and get back intouch with my spiritual side every so often when I start to feel detached from that side. All I can tell you is remember what you felt and never forget it, learn from it and move on.

F L E S H
04-19-2006, 05:40 AM
I had my treatments at UAB..my Oncologist was the best! I have been in remission for about 5 years now..but recently started small changes in my red cells and tired again...but I think its just all about money so I self medicate and I am sooo healthy!!:) God gave me peace..but I know now that I am not scared of going on..I was so sick but I just had a warm peaceful feeling looking out the window one day and he was WAS there for me! I know he is:thumbsup: But I respect and do read your beliefs..thanks you for being nice debating with no name calling,,thanks.:thumbsup:
It always makes me feel all fuzzy inside hearing about how other people beat cancer.... Congrats! I've been clear for about 1 and a half years myself, and I've never felt better!

As for respect, you get what you give, hunny :) I know that sometimes I might come off sounding like an asshole, but it's (mostly) unintentional :D

Shelbay
04-19-2006, 11:27 PM
Your right about giving respect..I can be an a** sometimes but when I know I am wrong I do apologize and ask for forgiveness..anyways..piggybacking chemo and radiation is walking through that valley of death imo..I wouldn't do it again..I just try to stay positive:) Oh! And anyone on here that sees a box for March of Dimes..please contribute..even if its nothing but pennies please. That is who paid for my treatment..March Of Dimes puts its donations to the people its intended for..no I didn't have insurance at the time..and most insurance companies don't want to pay for MRI's or Bone Marrow Transplants..You might not can tell the real me on here but I do love every day I wake up to the sunshine,I appreciate most everything now..and thanks for sharing something so personal with me..hope your having a good one.:thumbsup: