all drugs are legal...

[Gumby]

...In Scotland... But good news none the less...

13.04.06

Quoting from the Daily Mail Scotland front page exclusive:

SCOTTISH POLICE IN CALL TO LEGALISE ALL DRUGS

Thursday April 13 2006

POLICE officers are calling for all drugs to be legalised in Scotland . In a hugely controversial move, an influential group of frontline officers is demanding a radical change in the law. They say that even Class A drugs such as cocaine and heroin should no longer be illegal. The call comes from rank and file police in the country's biggest force who say radical measures are essential to tackle the spiralling drug problem.

Strathclyde Police Federation which represents nearly all 7,700 officers in the area, says all drugs should be licensed for use by addicts. The Association says millions of pounds are wasted on futile efforts to tackle the issue, with resources diverted from other police duties.

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Inspector Jim Duffy, chairman of the federation, said the approach to drug abuse must be transformed in order to cut the death toll. He said: â?�We should legalise all drugs currently covered by the Misuse of Drugs Act â?? everything from class A to C, including heroin, cocaine and speed.

â??We are not winning the war against drugs and we need to think about different ways to tackle it. Tell me a village where they are drug-free?â?�

He added: â??Despite the amount of resources and the fantastic work our girls and guys do, we are not making a difference. We don't have any control at the moment.

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Strathclyde Police Federation plans to table a discussion motion at the body's forthcoming national conference to garner support from officers across Scotland.

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Notes for Editors

Comment from Transform Director Danny Kushlick :

"For a policy that aims to eliminate drug supply and use, it has failed in spectacular style. Over the last 40 years illegal drug use has risen by at least 300%. Attempts to curtail drug supply have been equally ineffective, with drugs now cheaper and more available than ever before. Billions in taxpayer's money are being spent each year on a policy that is acheiving the exact opposite of its stated aim

"When high demand for drugs collides with laws that prohibit them, the result is a dramatic rise in drug prices, with low value commodities becoming, quite literally, worth more than their weight in gold. The hugely lucrative opportunities this creates attract the violent criminal entrepreneurs who now control the worlds largest criminal market, worth £300 billion a year.

"inflated drug prices mean that low income dependent drug users often resort to property crime or prostitution to support their habits. the Government estimates that this relatively small population of dependent heroin and cocaine users is now responsible for 54% of robberies, 70-80% of burglaries, 85% of shoplifting and 95% of street prostitution. in addition prohibition criminalises millions of (otherwise law abiding) drug using adults, making it unparalelled in its contribution to prison overcrowding and the wider crisis in the criminal justice system.

"This is not a debate that invites fence sitters and Strathclyde police federation has courageously climbed down.

[LIP]

Thats good, they better get legalised.

No police force has any control over any drugs...

They will never win. They're always going round in circles, they need to sort the problem out.

[Jim Morrison]

what a nice place it would be if i could walk into a store buy 3 hits of acid some weed and some mushrooms and it be completely legal

[LIP]

It would be perfect.

[Frivolous248]

Sounds like a smart move, although I don't agree with meth being a legal drug, then again it could help the addicts fill their addiction and maybe people would see how bad it is and be like "fuck meth, I'll get high off a less dangerous drug".

[3rdEyeVision]

I dont really agree with acid or e or coke or heroin and all that crap, although Ive heard alot of good things about acid so maby that ones not so bad

[chisme]

HOYL SHIT DONT U GUYS RELISE WHAT THIS MEANS?!!??!! SCOTLAND COULD BE THE NEW AMSTERDAM!!!

[orangeman]

I can understand marijuana being legalized but PCP? :p, I dont think it's such a good idea.

[chisme]

lip if this law is passed will u help me find a flat and job? im coeming to scotland stright away lol imagine.....scotland legel to grow....IM THERE

[are you kind]

man hopefully that succeeds and other countries are like 'oh snap thats actually a good policy' and then gradually the whole world legalizes drugs

[God v2.0]

yeah i still think that coke should be like EXTREMLY regulated, like an eightball every six months for every citizen IF you want it. No PCP or METH use, heroin would be like once every year u get a syringe with a little happy juice in it.


If scottland does legalize all drugs then i think i might have to move there instead of canada eh!

[chisme]

i cant beleive it.....scotland eh

lol where can i find out more about this?

[are you kind]

honestly if meth or heroin or coke were legal then i think people would be in the dopeshop all day long just like you see people go to the beer store all day long or buy lotto tickets or cigarettes all the time.

so some sort of regulation would have to be implemented, but not like once a year or anything. it should be more like every week or 2. that way people can conserve their shit if they want, but they wouldn't be able to get into daily heavy usage.

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but then another drug black market would emerge for the fiends during the week. or i could get my friends to buy me some heroin in the middle of the week and i would get them some coke.

its complicated when you're dealing with highly addictive and potentially deadly substances. then again drugs aren't really that dangerous when you take out the unknown potencies, dirty shit, and crime. as long as the drugs had directions telling you maximum dosage and warnings against low tolerances, i don't think you'd have many first time heroin users trying to shoot up quarter grams

[robert42]

aahhh this is nothing the same thing happened in England 2 yrs ago when Sir Ian Blair called for legalisation of every drug.

[chisme]

robert can u gimme a link to any info regarding that from ian blair

and anyone know where i can find more info this scotland situation? i may go there when ass if true.

[NWDankBudz]

Finally, a country realized that prohibition of anything will never work; It only wastes funds, time, and effort. However, I do think that the man made/artificial "hard" drugs, should be heavily controlled, but I think cannabis, shrooms, and other drugs, that nature provides, should be loosely controlled, and allow cannabis to be grown at one's own home, because if they donâ??t allow that, then you will end up with chemically laced cannabis from big time companies, like tobacco, and I don't want that to happen.

[robert42]

i cant find a link at the mo when i do ill post

[chisme]

found it robert mate heres link for you lot http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/uk_news/scotland/4164598.stm

[chisme]

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[slipknotpsycho]

maybe america will soon follow... yea i wish...

[LIP]

lip if this law is passed will u help me find a flat and job? im coeming to scotland stright away lol imagine.....scotland legel to grow....IM THERE


Dude, we'll get a house and grow as many plants as we like... we'll be high everyday and no one can do anything!!!!!

Wooohooooo!!!

Im so fucking happy :)

[are you kind]

but if you've ever seen trainspotting you'd realize that

IT'S SHITE BEING SCOTTISH

[chisme]

lol yeah i think a case of free drugs would liven up anyone day anyone agree?

[slipknotpsycho]

wait i got it figured out now... they're going to do this, then it's going to backfire, and drive america more on what would happen if weed were legalized....yup i can just see it now

[God v2.0]

yeah of course, its all some big conspiricy yeah....

[Frivolous248]

I dont really agree with acid or e or coke or heroin and all that crap, although Ive heard alot of good things about acid so maby that ones not so bad

Why not acid? It has no bad health affects. Only thing bad is having bad trips, and you might see spiders or shit on your skin and start stabbing yourself. But as long as you use it responsibly you don't have to worry.

Those who don't agree with certain drugs, think of this, atleast the morons dumb enough to do them would elminate their genes from the human race.

[LIP]

Too damn right.

I'm in favour of:

Cannabis
Shrooms
LSD
Coke


Being legal, because they have the least health implications, but, even as a user myself, coke should be very closely monitored, and regulated carefully.

Acid is a good drug. Weed is a good drug.

Its things like crack, speed, meth, smack, and them kida things that SHOULD'NT be legalised, because they kill too many.

[Gumby]

have any of you gone into a porn shop and bought a movie about a small girl getting railed by three hugh black cocks?? Have any of you bought the huge fists they sell? Or the fake pussys?? Just cause they are legal doesn't mean eveyone is going to try them...

I think it'll further take the drugs off the black market and less avalible without someone knowing who and what you are doing.

I mean honeslty how many of you have downloaded porn? and how many of you have gone to a store and bought a porno... Both legal... but I think that a lot less people go into the store to buy things while millions more obtain porn cause it's easy to get without anyone knowing about it online. Just like drugs, when you only have to talk to one or two people and it's hush hush, people feel a bit more safe about getting it. I don't know too many people who will go buy Crack, Coke, Heroin or Meth just cause they can. But I'll be the first mother fucker in line to buy pot and mushrooms (stay with the naturals!!!)...

[Euphoric]

Hmm well I think all drugs should be legalized. Herion would kill less people if it were standardized and less people be be using it too!
Just like theres a sex ed, maybe there should be a drug ed class, to inform kids about set, setting and responsible use.

[Gumby]

Its things like crack, speed, meth, smack, and them kida things that SHOULD'NT be legalised, because they kill too many.


Not to really start much becaues I agree with you a lot LIP, but don't cars and ciggarettes kill more people than drugs? Doesn't alcohol?? What about perscription drugs?? The death toll of a drug shouldn't be the factor that makes it illegal, if so there are plenty of things that should be on that list before drugs, any kind. If someone is dumb enough to try meth and crack without thinking it's going to be bad, perhaps we shouldn't think them as criminals, but as society being ignorant to the fact the we are stupid about drugs. I mean would you try meth? I know I sure as hell wouldn't but only becaue I've seen it first hand. I was never educated about it, or any drug for that matter... I was told they are bad and don't do them... but when I smoked pot, it wasn't bad... shrooms were better. But I see people on meth everyday and they look like shit... they look dead. People aren't stupid, and if they are maybe legalizing drugs is an easy way to promote Darwinism...

But honestly, educating is the best thing anyone can do about drugs. Legal or not if people don't understand them then we will all lose.

[AcidFreak]

yeah i still think that coke should be like EXTREMLY regulated, like an eightball every six months for every citizen IF you want it. No PCP or METH use, heroin would be like once every year u get a syringe with a little happy juice in it.


If scottland does legalize all drugs then i think i might have to move there instead of canada eh!

:D:D You've never done any of those drugs, have you? Eight ball every 6 months, what a load of shit, me and a couple of buddies can go through that much on a good night, addiction-free.

You guys seem to think that legalization means there's gonna be drug stores everywhere, I think it just means that they're gonna grant amnesty to people in jail for drug crimes, and they're not gonna bother tryin' to bust people for drugs anymore...right?

[Gumby]

kinda... they are going to stop arresting people for drugs, but they do still admit it's a problem... which it is... i think they are gearing more towards education rather than fear... something the United States could learn from on more than just drugs.

They are also looking to try to control the distribution so they can help people get off addiction as well as make sure they are safe doing it. Canada actually has a place where you can get shot up, it's in the bottom of a church... and if that's not a reason to believe that it should be legal I don't think there is going to be one. I mean a church realizes that passing it out is better than fearing it.

[pappersfor2]

dude i hope they would legalize it so much, i love scotland already that would be awsome. I got to go there during 7th grade spring break because my sister was going to scotland for college and i got to visit, the golf there is amasing plus, my sisters roomate was one of the biggest smokers i had ever met