MOUSSAOUI TRIAL

[Psycho4Bud]

Moussaoui sipped water and grinned occasionally as prosecutors showed the sentencing jury a multimedia presentation featuring an audiotape of the cockpit voice recorder, an adjacent display of the transcript and a computer-generated cockpit flight simulator to show the speed, altitude, pitch and course of the aircraft before four al-Qaida hijackers crashed the plane in a field in Shanksville, Pa., to defeat the passengers' takeover.
http://www.grandforks.com/mld/grandforks/14333672.htm

Sorry folks but I'll tell ya what, I'd love to take a rope, strap one end to the back of my bike, the other around this dudes ankles, and drag his disrespectful Taliban loving ass up and down the streets of New York!!

Have a good one!:thumbsup:

[Shelbay]

He is why I believe terrorists are the ones that really did what happened on 9-11...he is living proof to me..he should be put to death. How would you have reacted in that courtroom..hearing those voices for the first time of someone saying I don't want to die? What made me so proud of the passengers that fought back..was reading about how those evil pieces of crap (terrorists) faltering and having to struggle to hold that door..and then their last words..Praise to Allah. I don't know if I could have been in that building with him if I had lost some one I loved so violently. I was really sidetracked by the plane thing but after his trial..and that cockpit recording..I don't think our Government knew..but thats just my opinion. I always acknowledged 9-11 but it was one of those things that I really haven't"connected" with until keeping up with Moussaoui's trial. I also watched a video for the first time of people jumping out of windows after the planes hit..I don't think I will watch it again.

[Breukelen advocaat]

There is no way to describe what it was like to have been in lower NYC, much less the WTC, on 9/11 - and afterwards.

For many months the air was full of smoke and chemicals. We all thought that we'd get cancer or lung damage eventually, and some of the rescue workers have already succumbed to it.

Most of the firefighters from the fire company across the street from the WTC perished, during rescues. I could picture them, as they used to be, hanging out or responding to the frequent calls in the financial district and WTC, whenever I walked by that fire house for several years. It just seemed impossible that so many had died - at the hands of terrorists.

When the fires started really burning, they knew that it was hopeless. While the emergency-rescue firemen were preparing to go up to bring out more people, there were fire department chaplain priests in the streets giving the Catholic ones their last rights - it was a suicide mission and they knew it.

We must never allow something like this to happen again, ever.

[Great Spirit]

He's lying! lol. This is too funny. The US of Nazism must be desperate to look good! The CIA gave him a mind control drug. Remember project MK-ULTRA when the CIA was experimenting with mind control? Think about it!! You're being fooled by your government day after day...and they laugh at your stupidity!!

It seems this Breukelen person and Mont and Psycho4Bud all vehemently defend the official 9/11 story, despite PHOTO evidence proving otherwise. Maybe they are the NSA agents. I'm playing too remember! Don't fuck with me ;)

Funny too how since the US can capture all of these suspected "terrorist" prisoners right after 9/11, they have a trial for Moussaoui 5 years after the attacks when the 9/11 Truth Movement is growing, plus the government releasing the audio tapes. They are still trying to cover up the 9/11 lie 5 years later.

A 757 plane never even hit the Pentagon...and the government said with absolute certainty that a 757 did hit it. Well if the government said it did, where is the wreckage? And surely since it was the Pentagon hit, there had to have been security footage. Don't you think the government would have security footage of a plane hitting the Pentagon to make their story credibile? THERE IS NONE BECAUSE NO PLANE HIT IT!!! If the government lied about the Pentagon, which they did....why on Earth would you want to believe the "official" story on the WTC and 9/11 in a whole?

I can debunk anything you say guys. Truth endures!!!

[Great Spirit]

More pics...

[Shelbay]

Well I don't think like a man would..men and women do think different..and I said before i wouldn't even know how to begin to figure out your pics of the planes..so I don't know about that okay..but I do know when I watched that video of those people jumping from the towers..I won't watch again..no way..and I understand now the tune of New Yorkers since 9-11..not sympathize because I wasn't there but I understand alot better the way some of the people I know from NYC have changed so much since that day. What is your viewpoint on what happened with flight 93? What is the reason for your 5th pic? The dumptruck? When was that taken? Why is that dumptruck just sitting there?

[Gumby]

great spirt why should we take you seriously when you have a disclaimer like that??

I mean I believe you but you're killing your cause with that... it's like your saying they government is a big bully but you keep giving him your change when he shakes you up a bit... you're no better than those who don't believe it happened in my oponion... If you're going to post like that about the government why have a disclaimer like that?

you're no better than those who don't see what is going on in this country cause you are still playing by thier rules... FREEDOM OF SPEECH ever heard of it?? Fuck off if you're gonna keep calling the kettle black...

and for those of you who think you want to kill Moussaoui... watch this and let me know who you wanna kill... http://www.martiallaw911.info/video.htm

Please watch the 22 minute video about explosives and explain why I shouldn't believe it?

[Shelbay]

I'm sorry you feel that way about peoples different beliefs on this..I still enjoy your posts..I love the one about being "Johnny Appleseed"...you give out some of the best ideas for activism I have read..the kind that motivates. I admit I still play by some of Societys rules but there is just more than my wants to consider..my loved ones are more important than politics when its all said and done....but I am more active just not where I should be yet..but getting better with it every day..anyway..all of you that post on here should be proud for standing for your belief no matter what it is..trying to condemn or force everyone to think and act alike is not a good thing imo.

[Breukelen advocaat]

More pics...Hey scumbag, what is it that I lied about? Your stupidity and callousness toward the victims of the worst attack in history should make you ashamed to be seen in public, even through only an internet handle and diarrhea of the keyboard.

You are beneath the level of lowlife. I don't know if anybody ever put it to you that way, but that's what you are. You are not even worth getting upset about. People like you have so little to offer the world, that they just survive on emotional handouts, from those charitable enough to endure your stupidity - because those good people recognize that you are mentally ill.

You are not worthy to even be in the same thread as the heroes of 9\11. Being mentally sick does NOT give you a license to ridicule the legacy of great men and women - people that would give their very lives to save you, regardless of your lack of humanity and contempt for their heroism , if need be.

How do you survive with all of that confusion? It may be fun for you at times, but I guarantee that reality is powerful enough to get through, even if just for a fleeting moment, to your twisted mind someday. I wouldnâ??t want to be in your place when that happens - and it will, I am sure of that. I've been around, and I've seen it before.

[Gumby]

by the way I love the dream moussaoui had about bush giving him a pardon... ironic?? I think not...

[Shelbay]

I hope the NYFD and NYPD families of the victims received the financial settlement that the WTC employees families did. Do you know Breukelen? I know you don't like my posts but I am asking YOU since you were there. I didn't know that about you. Some people I have listened to talk about that day have compared it to Pearl Harbor..how do New Yorkers feel about that comparison?

[1234abcd]

I hope he gets LIFE IN PRISON and NOT what he wants.

[Shelbay]

Are you from NYC?

[Great Spirit]

Hey scumbag, what is it that I lied about? Your stupidity and callousness toward the victims of the worst attack in history should make you ashamed to be seen in public, even through only an internet handle and diarrhea of the keyboard.

You are beneath the level of lowlife. I don't know if anybody ever put it to you that way, but that's what you are. You are not even worth getting upset about. People like you have so little to offer the world, that they just survive on emotional handouts, from those charitable enough to endure your stupidity - because those good people recognize that you are mentally ill.

You are not worthy to even be in the same thread as the heroes of 9\11. Being mentally sick does NOT give you a license to ridicule the legacy of great men and women - people that would give their very lives to save you, regardless of your lack of humanity and contempt for their heroism , if need be.

How do you survive with all of that confusion? It may be fun for you at times, but I guarantee that reality is powerful enough to get through, even if just for a fleeting moment, to your twisted mind someday. I wouldnâ??t want to be in your place when that happens - and it will, I am sure of that. I've been around, and I've seen it before.Spare me child, before I reign fire from heaven down on thee. Your lies will not work on me. Just makes me mad! You have absolutely NO idea who you're dealing with or who I AM!! You're lucky I am a just, merciful, and loving Lord...

You have no concept of true reality yet.

Listen to this and it will help though:

"For a good work we stone thee not, but for blasphemy because that thou being a man makest thyself God! Jesus replied "is it not written in your law I said ye are gods?"

[Shelbay]

What are you talking about? Do you have split personalties? Are you saying your God? Or just a spiritual person?:)

[Great Spirit]

What are you talking about? Do you have split personalties? Are you saying your God? Or just a spiritual person?:)I AM God...

[Shelbay]

I AM God...
Well what? Were you by chance raised Southern Baptist?

[Great Spirit]

Well what? Were you by chance raised Southern Baptist?No not Southern Baptist...god no! lol.

We all have the spark of divinity within us...the trick is just to realize it! It's "God's" gift to us!

WE ARE GOD!

I know how this play ends ;)

[Breukelen advocaat]

I hope the NYFD and NYPD families of the victims received the financial settlement that the WTC employees families did. Do you know Breukelen? I know you don't like my posts but I am asking YOU since you were there. I didn't know that about you. Some people I have listened to talk about that day have compared it to Pearl Harbor..how do New Yorkers feel about that comparison?

I do not dislike you or your posts - although I disagree with some of your views, and things get a little rough here sometimes. Everybody disagrees - but it is obvious that you are a very decent person, at the very least - and have a very big heart as well.

The 9/11 attacks were worse than Pearl Harbor, in my opinion, because civilians were targeted. It is generally considered the worst attack in history - not just in comparison those against America, or for the 20th century everywhere else, but of all time.

I do not believe that the NYFD and NYPD families received the same settlements, because it was their job to put their lives on the line. There have been various funds, and charities, set up to help, though. They probably had life insurance, also.

After the second plane hit, the building that I worked in was evacuated. I went to a subway that was running (most were not), and met an architect. He told me that the Towers were built to collapse and crumble straight down, in the event of a major catastrophe, and his prediction was correct - and this is exactly what happened after I arrived home and turned on the TV.

[Great Spirit]

great spirt why should we take you seriously when you have a disclaimer like that??

I mean I believe you but you're killing your cause with that... it's like your saying they government is a big bully but you keep giving him your change when he shakes you up a bit... you're no better than those who don't believe it happened in my oponion... If you're going to post like that about the government why have a disclaimer like that?

you're no better than those who don't see what is going on in this country cause you are still playing by thier rules... FREEDOM OF SPEECH ever heard of it?? Fuck off if you're gonna keep calling the kettle black...

and for those of you who think you want to kill Moussaoui... watch this and let me know who you wanna kill... http://www.martiallaw911.info/video.htm

Please watch the 22 minute video about explosives and explain why I shouldn't believe it?I have already explained the disclaimer too many damn times!! IT IS FOR LEGAL REASONS!!!!!! What I say can and is considered treasonous, so having this disclaimer is just extra protection from the law, because even though what I say is true...in the court of law (whats left of it) the diclaimer will claim that my posts are false! It's just me being a wiseass and a smartass. Called thinking ahead!

Get it?? You should have your disclaimer too.

Remember, lying is not always "bad". It depends on the motive.

[Shelbay]

How does it end? And no offense about Southern Baptist..considering that WAS my upbringing..just saying that even religion can be addicting imo..I believe in God..always will..you just remind me of my old church elders that had me scared I would burn in hell if I even disobeyed my parents! Way extreme. Do you have hypertension?

[Great Spirit]

How does it end? And no offense about Southern Baptist..considering that WAS my upbringing..just saying that even religion can be addicting imo..I believe in God..always will..you just remind me of my old church elders that had me scared I would burn in hell if I even disobeyed my parents! Way extreme. Do you have hypertension?Bush ends up loosing. haha!! And the world goes into a higher consciousness, but not after terrible Earth changes, war, and many millions of deaths. Think of it as the Great Purification....

It's something every creature will have to experience. Lol oh I know it sounds out there! My mom actually works for a State Hospital in the psychiatric ward.

But it's reality! We are God!! The trick is just to realize it and accept it. In the Temple Space, when you see the Father..YOU ARE THE FATHER!!

Remember we are all under the veil of consciousness though to so we are not really supposed to remember this.

[Breukelen advocaat]

Spare me child, before I reign fire from heaven down on thee. Your lies will not work on me. Just makes me mad! You have absolutely NO idea who you're dealing with or who I AM!! You're lucky I am a just, merciful, and loving Lord....You have no concept of true reality yet.Listen to this and it will help though:
"For a good work we stone thee not, but for blasphemy because that thou being a man makest thyself God! Jesus replied "is it not written in your law I said ye are gods?"

Let me give you some free advice, asshole. I really do not give a fuck what you say about me - just don't come to New York City and start shooting your mouth off like you do on this forum. People here have changed, and there is zero tolerance these days for your brand of insolence and lunacy in this area. Comprende?

[Shelbay]

Thanks for saying what you did about me and my viewpoints..that is respect..thank you. I don't think that would have been right about the Firefighters and the Police Officers..even though it was in the line of duty that should have made their settlements a priority..not leaving families..and all those children to live with insecurity..thats not right imo. My husband told me that the buildings were built that way also..because of what happened in 93. Im sorry you were there that day..I can't imagine..your right on that one. I was sleeping in on 9-11..my husband called (he was out of State) and told me to turn the damn t.v. on..so I did..and it was like a good 10 minutes before we figured out what had happened..I turned the t.v. on right before the second plane flew in the other tower. Do you live in fear? Because of 9-11? No I am not saying like a coward would fear..but more like is it always on your mind? Especially being that close to the site? I' going to have to see what I can find out about the settlements..I am just curious what the price of their lives were deemed worth compared to the upper echelons..think thats the word for it...oh..and I like all of the different posts on here..if you guys all agreed it would be very boring..and kind of communist like..i just didn't like being threatened yesterday..but it is all good now. Can you tell I am "blessed" tonight haha..feeling very mellow.

[Gumby]

" In any civilized society, it is every citizen's responsibility to obey just laws. But at the same time, it is every citizen's responsibility to disobey unjust laws." -- Martin Luther King Jr.

That's why I don't have a disclaimer... it's not against the law if it's the truth... nor is it treason... my complaint is that if you are fighting for our country, it was founded on an agreement known as the constitution... it's a pretty neat little piece of paper(s) (written on hemp by the way). But in it we have the write to express our views about our country, that is why we started a new country... for personal freedoms, something America has long forgotten. We have the right to talk about anything we wish... we have the right to agree and the right to disagree... we have the right to believe anything we want to believe and you claiming you are god should understand that. In no way should our government be allowed to arrest us for anything we say. Unless you willingly spread lies about someone should you be held responsible for anything you say. But I think our government is corrupt... Bush is a Nazi - http://70.84.33.210/~infomedi/video/previews/150305martialpreview.mov


They planned 9-11 - http://70.84.33.210/~infomedi/video/previews/170305martialpreview2.mov

and we need to stop thinking we live under a dictator... we are free... FREE... free to do anything.... what do you people not get... this isn't america... we aren't free... this is a fucking joke that Hitler's ideas can still be used today.... you all are sheep...

[Shelbay]

Why are we being allowed to have internet access then? To even discuss all of this about our Government? Seriously..look at how China controls what their citizens have access too..just explaining how I look at it. I'm not saying the Government is right about everything they do..but I think we have more power than we realize..we just don't exercise it. Thats what your saying right?

[Breukelen advocaat]

Thanks for saying what you did about me and my viewpoints..that is respect..thank you. I don't think that would have been right about the Firefighters and the Police Officers..even though it was in the line of duty that should have made their settlements a priority..not leaving families..and all those children to live with insecurity..thats not right imo. My husband told me that the buildings were built that way also..because of what happened in 93. Im sorry you were there that day..I can't imagine..your right on that one. I was sleeping in on 9-11..my husband called (he was out of State) and told me to turn the damn t.v. on..so I did..and it was like a good 10 minutes before we figured out what had happened..I turned the t.v. on right before the second plane flew in the other tower. Do you live in fear? Because of 9-11? No I am not saying like a coward would fear..but more like is it always on your mind? Especially being that close to the site? I' going to have to see what I can find out about the settlements..I am just curious what the price of their lives were deemed worth compared to the upper echelons..think thats the word for it...oh..and I like all of the different posts on here..if you guys all agreed it would be very boring..and kind of communist like..i just didn't like being threatened yesterday..but it is all good now. Can you tell I am "blessed" tonight haha..feeling very mellow.

I was very lucky - as was my wife. I can't say very much here about it, at least until I retire (early) in a couple of years. We have huge mechanical steel barricades that come up out of the street to keep unchecked vehicles from entering the financial district. Cops with uzis, and police dogs, are all around as well. There are bomb sniffing Labs, private security people, and undercover agents all over. It's just a way of life.

I forgot to mention that I was across the street from the Trade Center when they bombed it's garage in '93, and I went inside the building after it happened. I thought that the explosion was much further uptown. I used to work in several of the WTC buildings, some time ago, before any of these things happened.

After 9/11, we also had to deal with the possiblilty of Anthrax , bomb threats to the buildings, subway attack threats, etc.

I would say that I had post-traumatic stress, along with many other people here. It really felt like we were in a war zone - and still does, four and a half years later, but the PTSD has subsided.

All in all, it wasn't easy, and still isn't - but you just have to keep yourself going, stay busy, and be aware of your surroundings and the people around you.

[Gumby]

yea...we don't use the rights we are suppose to have because our government is very good at hiding the truth...

Um... At&t just filed a class action law suit that said they has contracted through the NSA to filter ALL internet transactions. We are allowed to do it cause they can't stop it, we'd notice... but they can watch us. And if we break the law they will quickly hush us up and throw us in jail.... we have more people in jails than all other countries combined.

Do you really think that Nazis thought they were Nazis... or do you think they were just following what their leader told them??

When our presidents grandfather was a cheif member of the nazi party in America I find it hard to believe there is no connection. Just look into it... they get away with it cause nobody cares... we watch american idol and talk about it all day at school or work... america is a bunch of sheep and they are they sheppards... just think about it... take some mushrooms if you need to, it'll give you some prespective maybe... but maybe people just don't see it cause it's everywhere...

I mean is it not ironic that Dupont and the Bushes we're in it together 100 years ago and now they run the country? That's why hemp is illegal - I mean it's all that obvious... why doesn't everyone get it?? Am I just crazy??

[Shelbay]

I don't think your crazy Gumby...I just don't agree with everything as you see it..alot of it..a big yes..and no way I would eat any mushrooms..haha..The only thing my body reacts well to is MJ and B-12..haha.no way i could do mushrooms. I admit it..just the idea is weird..I wouldn't have a clue:) I will just visit here sometimes when I am relaxed and gain what perspective I need for right now. You stand strong in what you believe. What do you think about solar panels instead of paying to use a grid for energy? And checkout the rebates on Californias rewards to people that use solar panels...self suffiency.:) To me that is a grassroots movement.

[Gumby]

I would love nothing more than to live in a world with out having to pay the government for anything... and that includes energy. I just hate that I live in florida... I'd rather help change it than leave it but it's gone down the shitter fast. We are one of the largest police states their is... do you not think it's odd that two Bushes ran the states with the most death sentences?? But I'm waiting for them to come find me and arrest me for not hurting anyone before I run away and become completely self sufficent... untill then I just hope to use what they give me to help spread the word. The hardest part is refering to Nazi cause people have a preconcieved notion of what it was and that there is no way we are living like that... I just wish people could take a step back and look at the world as if it wasn't the now... What mushrooms are good for... i recomened them... but I only do the natural drugs, so that's it for me... well acid is natural, right?? <--- another reason they are illegal... they aren't as bad as they sound... I mean hell look at what Hendrix did on it


but you are on the right path... just realize a democracy doesn't mean freedom... freedom means democracy...

[Shelbay]

I do realize that..about freedom means democracy.:) Imagine living in Alabama haha..I love the South but we are considering 3 States for retirement..I want location this time!:D I want to talk more tonight because I have really,really enjoyed this thread..except for Breukelen having to live in a war zone in this country because of terrorists...but even that helps my perspective.:) Breukelen and Gumby thanks for posting with me and I hope you guys keep the faith on your beliefs.:thumbsup: I can't believe for once I am good and sleepy so I am not going to fight it and give in. Good conversation,thanks again.:stoned:

[Great Spirit]

Let me give you some free advice, asshole. I really do not give a fuck what you say about me - just don't come to New York City and start shooting your mouth off like you do on this forum. People here have changed, and there is zero tolerance these days for your brand of insolence and lunacy in this area. Comprende?Thats very Hitler and fascist like there son! But...I thought Amerika was a tolerant nation??!! Guess not. Lol thats what the Reichstag Fire....I mean 9/11 will do! They had everyone fooled, saying "terrorists" w/boxcutters were on those planes and that we had to surrender our rights in the name of freedom. A plane didn't even fucken hit the Pentagon!! Wake up to that fact son! You Amerikans never fail to amuse me!

I am fighting on behalf of those who were MURDERED BY THE US GOVERNMENT ON 9/11 TO BRING ABOUT A FASCIST GOVERNMENT AND WHO WILL BE MURDERED BY THEM!!! They are smiling down on me and cheering me on!! But I can only do so much.

And remember...Bush is Mabus..the third anti-christ and will use fundemental Christianity as his means of fascism.

p.s. For the record, I have been to Ground Zero and "shot my mouth off like I do in these forums" there.

[Shelbay]

I have never heard of "mabus" until I started reading your post..is Mabus in the bible? Aren't you an American?

[Psycho4Bud]

I have never heard of "mabus" until I started reading your post..is Mabus in the bible? Aren't you an American?

Anybody and everybody could be Mabus....comes from Nostradamus. :rolleyes:

http://www.mabus.biz/

[mont974x4]

Mabus is from Nostradamus. Since his predictions are so vague it's easy to twist them to fit your own opinion. GS, just happens to make them fit his attacks on Bush. lol

And no, I don't think he's an American. I think he's european at heart and trapped in America, for now.

[xblackdogx]

Shel- if you're living with the thought of having an attack always in the back of your mind, that is exactly what they [gov't] wants. Whether they did the attack or not b/c it is the foundation of such unjust laws as the Patriot Act.
That said and coming to the conclusion with overwhelming evidence that 9/11 was directly connected to the gov't and specifically the Bush Administration [imo] it is evident it was just the introduction to a new world order. or should we say "war on terrorism", your choice.
i strongly suggest you or anyone else to check out this thread: http://boards.cannabis.com/showthread.php?t=60840

.... when things are unexplainable such as this, it is hard to say that Arab Terrorist indeed committed these attacks.

[Breukelen advocaat]

You Amerikans never fail to amuse me!

They are smiling down on me and cheering me on!! But I can only do so much.

And remember...Bush is Mabus..the third anti-christ and will use fundemental Christianity as his means of fascism.

p.s. For the record, I have been to Ground Zero and "shot my mouth off like I do in these forums" there.

We New Yorkers do not pay much attention to craziers and other assorted assholes stumbling along muttering to themselves. In the weeks following 9/11, all kinds of nuts came out of the woodwork and were making wild statements in the streets of downtown NYC. Weirdos carrying posters with the words "THE END IS NEAR!" were running around drooling - like the apocalypse had started.

But anybody down there giving speeches, calling the government of the U.S. â??fascistsâ?� and the American people "stupid", and worse things that Iâ??d rather not repeat , wouldn't do very well at all.

Even Alex Jones knows this - he asks questions, and extrapolates the answers that he wants, in his films, from the people in the street. Jones, a shameless exploiter of this tragedy, does not claim to be a representative of the supernatural.

The boy is lying - as usual He is either mentally ill, and/or a bored, spoiled, suburban punk that gets his kicks by attempting to annoy mature adults on message boards.

Only a very seriously disturbed person would be â??amusedâ?� by this tragedy - somebody with delusions of grandeur that thinks that they are "special".

Heâ??ll get his - you can count on that. And, it won't be "Nazis" that give it to him.

[Great Spirit]

" In any civilized society, it is every citizen's responsibility to obey just laws. But at the same time, it is every citizen's responsibility to disobey unjust laws." -- Martin Luther King Jr.

That's why I don't have a disclaimer... it's not against the law if it's the truth... nor is it treason... my complaint is that if you are fighting for our country, it was founded on an agreement known as the constitution... it's a pretty neat little piece of paper(s) (written on hemp by the way). But in it we have the write to express our views about our country, that is why we started a new country... for personal freedoms, something America has long forgotten. We have the right to talk about anything we wish... we have the right to agree and the right to disagree... we have the right to believe anything we want to believe and you claiming you are god should understand that. In no way should our government be allowed to arrest us for anything we say. Unless you willingly spread lies about someone should you be held responsible for anything you say. But I think our government is corrupt... Bush is a Nazi - http://70.84.33.210/~infomedi/video/previews/150305martialpreview.mov


They planned 9-11 - http://70.84.33.210/~infomedi/video/previews/170305martialpreview2.mov

and we need to stop thinking we live under a dictator... we are free... FREE... free to do anything.... what do you people not get... this isn't america... we aren't free... this is a fucking joke that Hitler's ideas can still be used today.... you all are sheep...I understand your point, but my point is just so that it is there. Dude, fucken no one really pays attention to disclaimers anyway, but it just PROTECTS me!! Besides really, the Nazis won't give 2 shits about it anyway when they arrest us all for being dissidents.

[Great Spirit]

I have never heard of "mabus" until I started reading your post..is Mabus in the bible? Aren't you an American?Mabus is the third anti-christ predicted by Nostradamus. The first 2 were Napoleon and Hitler. George W. Bush is Mabus!!

I may be Amerikan...and I may not be Amerikan. I don't like labels ;) Besides, I really would not want to be Amerikan in these times.