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Nexus07083
04-13-2006, 04:44 AM
Ok, I know that alcohol serves as a good solvent for 2c-i because it keeps it fresh for years, almost as if it was in powder form. My question is, what are solvents that those under-age can buy. I'm looking for any solvent that is A) safe to drink (MAOI precautions taken into consideration) B) keeps 2c-i fresh for at least 3-months. Thanks for the help. :pimp:

Nexus07083
04-13-2006, 05:47 AM
Ok, I have just read (http://www.localharvest.org/vinegar.jsp) that vinegar (acidity 4% or more) has been used as a natural preservative.

BUT, does that mean any vinegar of 4% acidity or more?

Before I waste 500mg of 2c-i, I would like some input on whether this is safe and if it even works.

deekyleeky
04-13-2006, 02:54 PM
haha im guessing you got your 2c-i from one of the so called "scam site" Im so sick of that shit now. It just makes me depressed when I take it. I saved up enough money ($1500) to buy myself a jar of pills (pink lady's none the less) This guy I know downtrown has been saving them for me for a month now and I finally have enough money to buy 200 pills! YiPPEEEEEEEE

andruejaysin
04-13-2006, 05:12 PM
H2O, maybe? This isn't rocket science (that would be H2O2).

Nexus07083
04-13-2006, 06:37 PM
haha im guessing you got your 2c-i from one of the so called "scam site" Im so sick of that shit now. It just makes me depressed when I take it. I saved up enough money ($1500) to buy myself a jar of pills (pink lady's none the less) This guy I know downtrown has been saving them for me for a month now and I finally have enough money to buy 200 pills! YiPPEEEEEEEE

1) How the fuck does 2c-i depress you...swim has been doing 2c's for a while and still loves them.

2) Are you crazy? For $1500 you better AT LEAST get 300 pills if you're talking about E that is.

Nexus07083
04-13-2006, 06:39 PM
H2O, maybe? This isn't rocket science (that would be H2O2).

Doesn't work. Many report the water and the 2c-i reacting with each other in a few days making the liquid black and less potent.

Any other ideas anyone? Really need some help here.

andruejaysin
04-13-2006, 08:08 PM
4ho/ace tryptamines turn black in solution, with little or no loss of potency, never heard of 2c-i doing it.

Nexus07083
04-13-2006, 08:33 PM
4ho/ace tryptamines turn black in solution, with little or no loss of potency, never heard of 2c-i doing it.

Sounds good, but is there any source you know of that confirms this OR has anyone done this and had the solution keep its potency after like 3 months? (turning black isn't a big deal if it does as long as it keeps its potency...but doesn't turning black mean the chemical reacted with the water and is now less potent?)

andruejaysin
04-14-2006, 03:19 AM
Yeah, go to bluelight.nu (the psychedelics forum) and do a search for 2c-i and "liquid measure" about a million posts related to this, I skimmed through them and saw no problems with 2c-i in water, but I won't claim to have read them all. I've personally seen 2c-i dissolved in vodka (half water), without problems.The best theory on 4ho stuff turning black is that it is oxidation, which is removed metabolically, thus not affecting potency. Iodine is a dead end as far as any kind of chemical reaction, so I can't imagine the same thing happening with 2c-i.

deekyleeky
04-14-2006, 04:09 AM
pink ladies...hello?

Nexus07083
04-14-2006, 04:42 AM
Thanks man...i'll take your word for it instead of looking through the forum

andruejaysin
04-14-2006, 05:16 AM
wholesale-scales.com has milligram scales for 70 bucks. Liquid measure works fine, right until someone spills it. And don't assume 500mgs is accurate, the RC vendors are bad about being off rather badly in terms of weight, at least weigh on a scale accurate enough weigh a half gram. Or just get the mg scales, it's worth the 70 bucks just to be able to bitch at your weed dealer that the last quarter weighed 6.927 grams.

Nexus07083
04-14-2006, 07:39 AM
Way ahead of you. I have the MyWeigh GemPro-150 on its way...I'm not gonna do powder though...I'm gonna make liquid doses...I ordered vials and I'm gonna make 3mL liquid doses and brew weed and HBW seeds in the liquid before dosing to make clear glass vials with a green liquid containing LSA, THC, and 2c-i which I have invented as a new drug which I call "Ooze" :pimp: :pimp: :pimp:

andruejaysin
04-14-2006, 07:55 PM
You'll need to get some alcohol then. THC is not soluable in water. But it sounds like a very interesting combo.

Nexus07083
04-16-2006, 01:07 AM
:rasta: If I use alcohol...do I just let like a few teabags of stems soke in it to absorb the THC? Also, what's the best (cheap, yet effective) place to order HBW seeds from?

andruejaysin
04-16-2006, 07:14 PM
^^That would work, but stems don't contain much THC, not sure it would be worth the trouble. The LSA and 2c-i will probably overwhelm the THC high anyway. I would be more worried about how the LSA stores than the 2c-i, it's a fairly unstable molecule, and also a water solution might contain enough plant material to end up molding. An alcohol solution in the fridge should be stable for a few months at least. I was suprized to learn my source for plant trips doesn't carry HBW, so I can't help with that. What dose of seeds/2c-i are you planning?

Nexus07083
04-17-2006, 05:49 AM
Well...people I know like 25mg...so I'm thinking of making a more intense version with 25mg and 10HBW seeds