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HuRoN
04-13-2006, 03:57 AM
The idea behind this thread comes from a combination of me taking an Astronomy class this semester, playing a long Civilization 3 game and being high all the time.

So I've been playing a lot of Civ. 3 lately. It's a pretty in-depth, strategic war game that I get lost in for hours. Anyway, to win the game you either have to destroy every other nation...or be the first to successfully build a space shuttle capable of reaching the moon.

Like I said, I'm taking a pretty interesting Astronomy class this semester. My eyes have been opened to how small we really are. I've read that our sun was borne approx. 4.5 billion years ago and is about 1/3 of the way through it's expected life cycle. I also have read that it's death isn't going to be exactly quiet either. ....and for the slow and really high people :rasta: ...we are exploring space so that we can one day find a new "Sun" and populate a new planet.

My opinion...and I would really like to hear yours...is that space exploration should basically become a joint-project for the world. Something like the NATO of NASA. Every country should be involved scientifically and financially in order to insure the preservation of life as we know it. I know that countries such as the United States and Russia are already doing joint missions, this is definitely a good step in the right direction. But it is not enough. Let's remember that this is a problem we all have in common...no matter what your religion or ethnic background. Of course this is all irrelevant if we destroy ourselves first.

What are your opinions?

HuRoN

Psycho4Bud
04-13-2006, 04:05 AM
I agree with ya 110% but in order to do that you'd have to share technology with some countries that really don't need to know it. Wasn't that kind of the premiss of Star Trek, that after the "big war" the world was united under one government? Oh shit....here we go with the N.W.O. again...j/k!:thumbsup:

Have a good one!:thumbsup:

HuRoN
04-13-2006, 04:10 AM
That is definitly a solid piont. Still...something should be done.

HuRoN

Psycho4Bud
04-13-2006, 04:18 AM
I found Deep Impact to be a very courageous but also risky endevor. What if it would have knocked the comet off orbit or had some other type of ramifications that they didn't know of or consider?
http://spaceflightnow.com/news/n0604/04deepimpact/

Space, the final frontier!

Euphoric
04-13-2006, 08:31 AM
We've developed ion engines (http://www.bbc.co.uk/science/space/exploration/futurespaceflight/ionengines.shtml) and cryogenics (http://www.newscientist.com/channel/health/mg18925351.200.html) (which needs more advancement)

recent success in suspended animation (http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/science/nature/4469793.stm)

xblackdogx
04-13-2006, 09:03 AM
I think your suggestions SHOULD be done, but it's very unlikely... read the Project For a New American Century and you will see what the US is really doing with the NASA money.
for short if you don't want to read it... they want weapons in space [no joke]

AmericanTerrorist
04-13-2006, 09:18 AM
We've developed ion engines (http://www.bbc.co.uk/science/space/exploration/futurespaceflight/ionengines.shtml) and cryogenics (http://www.newscientist.com/channel/health/mg18925351.200.html) (which needs more advancement)

recent success in suspended animation (http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/science/nature/4469793.stm)

Wow thanks for posting those links, that stuff tripped me out!

duhrickjames
04-13-2006, 11:16 AM
40,000 people die from Influenza every year. We have bigger fish to fry than taking hundred billion dollar vacations of the Earth's upper-orbit.

Oneironaut
04-13-2006, 12:04 PM
There's no reason we can't go into space AND give everybody on earth the medicine, food, clothes and shelter they need. We certainly have the technological and material capabilities to do that. It's just that under capitalism the wealth is distributed in such a way that millions have to live in squalor so an elite few can live in luxury. But that's a whole nother can of worms...

More to the point, yes, we should definitely aim to make space a worldwide endeavor. We all come from the same blue dot out there in space. For too long nations have been quabbling for ownership of a little corner of that blue dot, but now we have the opportunity to explore the rest of the cosmos in unity.

Oh, and Civ 3 kicks ass. Right now I'm playing a game as the Spanish and I'm aiming to go into space...after I use my mighty armies to expand my empire of course. :D

MaryJaneScott
04-13-2006, 12:21 PM
If you're interested.. you should really check out a video called Evidence - The Case of NASA UFOs - by David Sereda.

http://ufonasa.terra-ent.com/
or
You can get a torrent here: http://ts.searching.com/torrent/616775/Evidence_The_Case_of_NASA_UFOs_by_David_Sereda_200 1

:)

HuRoN
04-13-2006, 08:02 PM
40,000 people die from Influenza every year. We have bigger fish to fry than taking hundred billion dollar vacations of the Earth's upper-orbit.


...may the flea's of a thousand camel's infest your crotch....:thumbsup:





BAAAAAAAMMMM.....CRADLE ROCK STYLE!!!!!!!!!!!!!


Huron

andruejaysin
04-14-2006, 09:15 AM
Sending a few men to mars for a couple months is estimated to cost something like a half trillion dollars. So, what would it cost to send thousands of people to another star? I don't have a clue, beyond that it would be a large portion of the resources of the entire world for a generation. Whether or not that would be a good idea is open to debate, but it isn't gonna happen, at least in our lifetimes. Maybe they should figure out how to make my satellite dish work when it rains before attempting to colonize the galaxy.

HuRoN
04-14-2006, 04:29 PM
The idea is not to hurry up and move to another planet...I'm saying that those countries that are currently allocating funds for space exploration should establish a central Space Intelligence Agency so that the world can put their heads together and be more efficient. As of right now...everybody is off on their own...racing to be the first to do this that and the other thing. We are limiting progress by keeping to ourselves on this matter. No one is saying that this is our number one priority or that we should increase the amount of money spent on space exploration...Let's put our money and our minds together and give ourselves the best chance to be successful.

I suggest locking the leader's from every country in a room....supplying them with some Purple Haze, munchies and great music. Let them pass the peace pipe for a while. There are so many people fighting these days, usually for someone else's cause.

HuRoN

Oneironaut
04-15-2006, 06:08 AM
Yeah, their leaders' causes. Let's put some Zyklon B in that room instead.