5 slides of Pentagon Crash

[Great Spirit]

Here it is...

Someone please explain to me why there is a date of September 12th, 2001?

http://www.freedomfiles.org/war/pentagon.htm

SAVE TREES! WIPE YOUR ASS WITH THE AMERIKAN FLAG INSTEAD!

[Shelbay]

Now see! You are confusing me again...I think I am at the activist forum and I see these planes...that is politics right?

[Great Spirit]

No no..this is activism at its greatest!

[Psycho4Bud]

:mad: Well I have spent a few hours in here this morning and all I have to say is that a few of you need to learn how to put your threads in the correct forums. If this is too hard for you to do then I will either move them or delete them.:thumbsup:

BTW.....I'm sure that a few of you only post so you can see your own typing...:mad:
:thumbsup:

[Great Spirit]

The blood will be on your hands...NOT MINE! :thumbsup:

I really don't see how this cannot be considered activism. If you claim that this activism is only marijuana related..then so should the politics section just be for marijuana related information.

[Shelbay]

I am just saying that I know nothing about planes but am interested in true activists and any matter relating to legalizing MJ...now what do these planes have to do with that? I am not saying where you can or cannot choose to post...just saying you REALLY confuse me okay.:)

[xblackdogx]

there were probably cameras exactly where it got hit also... so they would have been recorded... how come they didnt release those?

[brewdy]

this is bullshit .....

[xblackdogx]

the President said yesterday that he encourages protests as an outlet if an American believes their government is not doing the right thing...

[xblackdogx]

"According to the 9/11 Commission Report, two passengers made phone calls to contacts on the ground. At 9:12, passenger Renee May was reported to have called her mother, Nancy May, in Las Vegas. She said her flight was being hijacked by six individuals and they had been moved to the rear of the plane. Barbara K. Olson, another passenger, called her husband, United States Solicitor General Theodore Olson at the Justice Department twice to tell him about the hijacking and to report that the passengers and pilots were held in the back of the plane. After the call was cut off, Theodore Olson tried unsuccessfully to contact Attorney General John Ashcroft."

-the chances of making a phone call in 20,000 feet in the air is around 1%... and this one lady called TWICE ?????????

[Swizzy89304]

the chances of making a phone call in 20,000 feet in the air is around 1%... and this one lady called TWICE ?????????


It is possible that she called using the phones on the plane.

[xblackdogx]

It is possible that she called using the phones on the plane.
it's not possible when she is "telling her husband" there are hijackers, and they've moved everyone to the back of the plane. furthermore, i believe the report said cell phones.

[newbie1232]

Cell phone calls can't be made from planes that high in the air. Watch Loose Change if you don't believe me.

[Gumby]

^

http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=-8260059923762628848&q=Loose+Change+2&pl=true

[Marijuanderful]

yes and this is political activism

[Myth1184]

lol, can you say mspaint

[GreenKing11]

I am just saying that I know nothing about planes but am interested in true activists and any matter relating to legalizing MJ...now what do these planes have to do with that? I am not saying where you can or cannot choose to post...just saying you REALLY confuse me okay.:)

What do these planes have to do with that? Do you expect cannabis to be legalized with criminals like this at the top of our government? Do you think they give a damn or even have the slightest, logic or compassion to let people use cannabis medically without having to worry about their house being raided? No, these people do not have logic or compassion. Cheney and Bush and some of the top officials in our government are responsible for killing over 3,000 people on 9/11. They wrap themselves in the American flag and call anyone who criticizes them unpatriotic. They are traitors and have commited treason on a scale that could hardly be imagined before it actually happened.
This directly has to do with the prohibition of marijuana. Getting officials in office that actually will uphold the Constitution and follow the will of the people instead of murdering the people. Because the will of the people is to end marijuana prohibition, well over a majority of Americans believe marijuana prohibition should be ended. But our current government does not respect the Constitution or the will of the people.

[Shelbay]

Look...I don't know all that much about politics..and I don't want to know...and I sure don't claim to be an expert on the Government or planes okay...I am interested in legalizing MJ!! Now explain since you want to repeat my original question to me..how do these planes help prohibit MJ?

[Swizzy89304]

Look...I don't know all that much about politics..and I don't want to know...and I sure don't claim to be an expert on the Government or planes okay...I am interested in legalizing MJ!! Now explain since you want to repeat my original question to me..how do these planes help prohibit MJ?

So youre saying that the Religion and Spirituality forum should only concern religions that use cannabis? And the sexuality forum should only have threads in that ask 'does cannabis make me gay'?
This is the POLITICS AND LEGAL forum... keyword, POLITICS.

[GreenKing11]

Look...I don't know all that much about politics..and I don't want to know...and I sure don't claim to be an expert on the Government or planes okay...I am interested in legalizing MJ!! Now explain since you want to repeat my original question to me..how do these planes help prohibit MJ?

I thought I explained it to you very well.. If you don't understand it now, there's no hope. In my opinion our government slaughtering U.S. citizens in acts of treachery is a tad bit more important than marijuana prohibition. :thumbsup:

[Shelbay]

So youre saying that the Religion and Spirituality forum should only concern religions that use cannabis? And the sexuality forum should only have threads in that ask 'does cannabis make me gay'?
This is the POLITICS AND LEGAL forum... keyword, POLITICS.
So your putting words in my mouth..read my post again...and just because you "holler" doesn't make what your saying any clearer..just louder...maybe I should try the sexuality forums..is the atmosphere any cooler there? Chill out..when I posted on this thread I could have sworn it said ACTIVIST..and post away where you want..when you want..doesn't concern me.:thumbsup:

[Great Spirit]

Just wait until these NSA fuckers on these boards finish their "investigations" and start to arrest us dissidents. It will be the Night of Shattering Glass all over again!

Why do you think Hitler....I mean Bush authorized unconstitutional phone and email monitoring? So he can find out who the dissidents are!!

This is not about catching terrorists. This is about these fascist pigs controlling us first..then the world! Can't fool me motherfucker!

[Shelbay]

I thought I explained it to you very well.. If you don't understand it now, there's no hope. In my opinion our government slaughtering U.S. citizens in acts of treachery is a tad bit more important than marijuana prohibition. :thumbsup:
haha...I guess there is no hope for me and politics then..thanks!:thumbsup: I am not one that wants to know everything..just right now I want to know how to do more than give money to help legalize MJ.:thumbsup: And my opinion on our Government is like in the middle..so you won't get to much of a debate with me on that one.:D

[GreenKing11]

haha...I guess there is no hope for me and politics then..thanks!:thumbsup: I am not one that wants to know everything..just right now I want to know how to do more than give money to help legalize MJ.:thumbsup: And my opinion on our Government is like in the middle..so you won't get to much of a debate with me on that one.:D

hehe, that's cool. I admire you for your stance on cannabis. Most people don't know much about politics, or at least the real politics. And being in the middle is much better than the left or right, lol.

[Great Spirit]

this is bullshit .....Oh bullshit my ass!! You know it's true. Either you are a brainwashed NSA agent monitoring these boards, or you just don't want to accept the fact that 9/11 was used to bring a fascist dictatorship.

[Great Spirit]

lol, can you say mspaintYa ok buddy. The problem you have is acceptance.

[Bong30]

i was thinking photo shop....

[Great Spirit]

i was thinking photo shop....I was thinking acceptance...

[Ap0c4lyPtIcF4t3]

I am just saying that I know nothing about planes but am interested in true activists and any matter relating to legalizing MJ...now what do these planes have to do with that? I am not saying where you can or cannot choose to post...just saying you REALLY confuse me okay.:)


True activists? So true activists are ones relating to MJ? So because you have no knowledge of planes it means that it isnt true activism....You ever heard of political activism ya southern hick! Have a good one! :) :)

[Ap0c4lyPtIcF4t3]

Why a stoner forum? What good does your preaching do here? What makes you think that if anyone takes you serious that it will make a difference?

My grandma could have edited the date on those slides.....

You wanna prove to me it was the Gov then go research different missle and pictures of what their damage looks like on buildings of similar structure..... AND yes im sure you can find all of this on the internet

Why do you insist on posting the same goddamn pictures over and over? You have WAY to much to prove for someone who wants people to take him seriously....

[Ap0c4lyPtIcF4t3]

OMG WTF! THIS IS FROM THE FUTURE

OMG WTF LOOK AT ALL THOSE 6's OMG ITS BUSH HES TRYING TO GET ME OOMMFG

OMFG EXPLAIN THIS TO ME THEN! OMG!

[xblackdogx]

i do agree more evidence is needed to support it other than the same 'ol pictures... but its so hard to find evidence when uhhh the government took all of it.
anyone that doesnt know WTC 7 that was "pulled", i mean collapsed, was a MAJOR holder of CIA documents... hmmm

[Ap0c4lyPtIcF4t3]

Im not against the point you are trying to make im against the way you try to get it across to people. You make it seem like you REALLY are one of those whacked out conspiracy people. Not to mention when someone provides a reasonable explination you then jump over to another argument, its like your running around in circles trying to defend your argument. Like I said, its all shady as hell and that WTC 7 was the most shady out of everything.

To me if it were all true then a plane was supposed to crash into the WTC7 building but didnt make it so they blew it anyway and made up a half assed excuse hoping that the panic would distract attention to it.....

Its something that you cant prove unless America takes a horridly drastic turn to this fascim that you talk about. Right now its up in the air, its not totally fascist but its more of walking the line. Time will tell so dont jump the guns on this one boys!

[Ap0c4lyPtIcF4t3]

Look...I don't know all that much about politics..and I don't want to know...and I sure don't claim to be an expert on the Government or planes okay...I am interested in legalizing MJ!! Now explain since you want to repeat my original question to me..how do these planes help prohibit MJ?

You dont know much about politics and you dont want to know but you want to talk about activism and legalizing MJ.....leave it to a southerner to say something like this!

[xblackdogx]

Im not against the point you are trying to make im against the way you try to get it across to people. You make it seem like you REALLY are one of those whacked out conspiracy people. Not to mention when someone provides a reasonable explination you then jump over to another argument, its like your running around in circles trying to defend your argument. Like I said, its all shady as hell and that WTC 7 was the most shady out of everything.

To me if it were all true then a plane was supposed to crash into the WTC7 building but didnt make it so they blew it anyway and made up a half assed excuse hoping that the panic would distract attention to it.....

Its something that you cant prove unless America takes a horridly drastic turn to this fascim that you talk about. Right now its up in the air, its not totally fascist but its more of walking the line. Time will tell so dont jump the guns on this one boys!

if this is directed at me:
1. if i "jump" to different arguements its not b/c i am dodging, i know the WTC 7 was random, but it IS relevant. The memo's, transcripts, cia operatives all those involved in the pentagon "crash" were most likely located in that building, and that is y i mentioned it [no hard copy of anything]
2. i never talk about fascism
3. anyone providing a "valid" explanation i would love to hear and i am not one to shut down explanations... especially if they make sense

[Psycho4Bud]

the chances of making a phone call in 20,000 feet in the air is around 1%... and this one lady called TWICE ?????????

I beg to differ with you on that one!:D
Why would the FCC waste their time to decide whether or not cell phones should be permitted if they don't work in the first place?:confused:

http://www.caa.co.za/Public/Air%20Rage/docs/cellp0622-01.html
One of the most difficult aspects of a flight attendant's job is handling passengers who refuse to follow rules. "Please stow your carry-on, sir." "Fasten your seat belt, ma'am." "Sorry, but fingernail polish is flammable and should not be applied onboard." Having voiced these FAA mandates to those who weren't willing to comply, I've had my share of onboard confrontations. But the war of words seems at its worst when the subject turns to cell phones.

Recently I approached a businessman as our New York-Miami flight taxied toward the runway. Sitting in the first row of coach, he spoke loudly enough that passengers in the rear could hear details of his cellular conversation. Yes, he was annoying fellow fliers. And because the plane had left the gate, he was violating airline policy against cell-phone use on the ground. "Sir, will you please turn off your phone?" I said. He nodded his head in a way that suggested he would hang up when he was good and ready. I hovered above him, scrutinized by passengers eager to hear my next ploy.

I cleared my throat, and he looked up. "I'll be finished in a minute!" he said, aggravated by the intrusion. "Sir, you need to terminate your call now," I said. "It's airline policy" The man ignored me, prattling into his mobile phone unperturbed.

At this point I had three options:

1. Vociferously demand that he turn off his cell phone,

2. Inform the captain of the problem and possibly delay the flight or

3. Forget the whole thing, return to my jump seat and hope no one reports the indiscretion.

I stood there, amid a sea of upturned faces, weighing my options as the plane moved closer to takeoff . . .

Cellular phone usage aboard airplanes is proliferating. Before the departure of any given flight, no less than four or five passengers (sometimes 20 or more) will have a cell phone glued to one ear. On the ground, the decision to allow mobile calls is left to the discretion of individual airlines. But government regulations prohibit cell phone use in flight. Contrary to what most passengers believe, the Federal Communication Commission (the government agency that regulates telephone usage), not the FAA, imposed the in-flight ban on cell phones in 1991. According to a Wall Street Journal report, "the FCC was mainly concerned about (airborne) cell phones' potential to interfere with ground-to-ground cellular transmission."

Airlines tell passengers that cell phones can interfere with navigation and communications equipment in the cockpit. But a study commissioned by the FAA in 1996 failed to find a single instance in which equipment was affected by a wireless phone. Nevertheless, electricity from cellular phones can, in theory, interfere with aircraft systems. For this reason, Boeing and the FAA support the FCC ban.

Although many airplanes have public "air phones," passengers flinch at the fee of $6 per minute. (Airlines get a cut of the profits, which casts suspicion on why airlines want to keep cell phones turned off in the air.) Despite government regulation, or perhaps because of it, chatting above the clouds on a cell phone has proved irresistible for some. I've seen passengers hunkered in their seats, whispering into Nokias. I've watched frequent fliers scurry for a carry-on as muffled ringing emanates from within. Once, after the lavatory line grew to an unreasonable length, I knocked on the door. A guilt- ridden teenager emerged. She admitted that she'd been in there for half an hour, talking to her boyfriend on a cell phone.

These violators on U.S. airlines face harsh words and a fine. But cell-phone scofflaws on foreign airlines can face more serious consequences. In 1999, oil worker Neil Whitehouse refused to switch off his mobile phone on a British Airways flight. When a cabin attendant advised him to turn off the unit because it could interfere with navigation systems, Whitehouse replied, "Why? Are we going to get lost?" The captain arrived and told Whitehouse to hand over his phone. He refused. The 28-year-old was arrested upon landing and later sentenced to one year in prison. Last February, cell-phone abusers received yet another warning. This time it came from Saudi Arabia. Despite orders from the cabin crew to turn off his cell phone before takeoff, a Saudi passenger continued to chat away.

The man forced a 30-minute delay and was escorted from the plane by airport security. Later, a Saudi court sentenced him to 70 lashes. Moments before my New York-Miami flight rolled onto the runway, I looked down at the businessman who had refused to turn off his cell phone. Twice, I'd asked for compliance. Twice, my request was ignored. If we were in Saudi Arabia instead of New York, he might get 70 lashes. If we were governed by Britain's Civil Aviation Authority instead of the U.S. Federal Aviation Administration, he might get a year behind bars. I advised the businessman of these facts, but to no avail. Then, in a voice loud enough for the planeload of passengers to hear, I told him that the aircraft would return to the gate and that although he would not receive lashes or a prison sentence, he might, however, cause his fellow passengers to miss their connections in Miami. That's when a hundred pairs of narrowed eyes turned on him. The businessman abruptly put away his cell phone and remained incommunicado for the duration of the flight.


Cell phone calls in flight?

Regulators eye revising rules to allow you to make, receive cellular calls on commercial flights.
December 9, 2004: 3:05 PM EST
By Chris Isidore, CNN/Money senior writer


http://money.cnn.com/2004/12/09/technology/personaltech/cellphones_inflight/
NEW YORK (CNN/Money) - Federal regulators are set to begin discussions later this month on allowing the use of cell phones on commercial airline flights.

The Federal Communications Commission said that at its Dec. 15 meeting it will discuss possible revisions to rules prohibiting cell phone use on commercial flights. That's the first step of the process needed to lift the ban.

Cell phone use has been banned due to concerns about how it could affect an aircraft's navigation. And cell phones sometimes have trouble working when the plane is at cruising altitude because phone towers aren't built to project their signals that high.

[Ap0c4lyPtIcF4t3]

They are basing this no cell phone thing off their phony 9/11 movies and probably something else phony backing it up. Ive used a cell phone on the plane but was asked to turn it off. The cellphone towers transmit data to satellites and are only limited in how big the area is not how high. Just another thing that shows you shouldnt believe those stupid fucking 9/11 movies!

[Shelbay]

You dont know much about politics and you dont want to know but you want to talk about activism and legalizing MJ.....leave it to a southerner to say something like this!
You seem to be getting close to harrassing me on here..leave me be. I am on this forum trying to learn and I don't need your new sn distracting me from that...

[Shelbay]

True activists? So true activists are ones relating to MJ? So because you have no knowledge of planes it means that it isnt true activism....You ever heard of political activism ya southern hick! Have a good one! :) :)
Why don't you just leave me alone? Your not debating..all you are doing since the 3 days you've been under your new name is insult and divert..its NOT going to work for you okay...and don't forget to kiss my southern hick butt on your way out..AGAIN.

[Psycho4Bud]

and don't forget to kiss my southern hick butt on your way out..AGAIN.

Classic....I always say Norwegian ass!

Have a good one!:thumbsup:

[Ap0c4lyPtIcF4t3]

Why don't you just leave me alone? Your not debating..all you are doing since the 3 days you've been under your new name is insult and divert..its NOT going to work for you okay...and don't forget to kiss my southern hick butt on your way out..AGAIN.

I can post anyway I choose..I really don't think you need to concern yourself with what ever I post...now you have a good one. And while your at it...try taking your own advice. Ill leave you alone but next time how about you not jump to bitchy conclusions.....

[Shelbay]

haha..your Norwegian? Or am I missing something here again? :D

[Shelbay]

I can post anyway I choose..I really don't think you need to concern yourself with what ever I post...now you have a good one. And while your at it...try taking your own advice. Ill leave you alone but next time how about you not jump to bitchy conclusions.....
Your not doing me any favors by saying you will leave me alone and warning me in the same post..you"ll leave me alone whether you want to or not...got it? Good...now apply it and go away.:thumbsup: Posting is one thing...harrassment is another...

[Ap0c4lyPtIcF4t3]

Wow I didnt think you were serious about the harrassment, i thought it was a exaggeration....wow....

I love how you are a walking contradiction. You tell people to not censor you and say you can post how you want until someone says something you dont like then you go into defensive mode and yell harassment. Ill do as I please, like i take orders from some whacked out southern girl. In your dreams! Everyone witness shelbay the walking talking contradiction but please dont point at laugh! If you want to keep this going i can, ill pull up all your posts that you contradict yourself in and make a thread outta it. If you want it to stop then its as simple as shutting up. Sorry you cant take a few insults little girl!

You realize this started because of you, I have no problems with you execpt you just haaad to be ignorant and try and start a argument about my avatar and my post to you....

[Shelbay]

You messed up threatening to do a violent crime against me on that other thread..I have never reported anyone on here but I refuse to allow you to threaten me like you did..along with two other members you said you would take sloppy seconds after they finished with me..you are not only sick..you are dangerous and I want to know why you aren't banned? you have signed on for 3 days under your new name and have stalked me across the entire board..I am through trying to relate with you...you lost that when you threatened to recreate an alleged rape crime.....using me as the victim along with two other men on here.you are so wrong.

[Ap0c4lyPtIcF4t3]

If thats the only ammunition you can dig up on me then good luck! What does me having only been here 3 days have to do with anything? Stalking you???What threats???So i should be banned for a handful of posts that you cant just ignore if you dont like them??? Get over yourself already. I hope you dont go crying to the admins. If you take what i said as a threat then you must have a hard time handling real life. GET OVER YOURSELF AND MOVE ON, If you cant just roll your eyes to my comment and realize that it wasnt serious then I dont see why you are on the internet to begin with. I can totally tell you are just clawing at whatever you can to use against me, be it petty or not.

But hey what do I know ive only been here 3 days! Its not like I troll around looking for trouble so fuck off already. Im here to give advice, learn new things, have a good laugh, and sometimes push peoples buttons like you who have buttons that are oh so easy to push, sorry i cant help the temptation!

Have a good one!!

[Psycho4Bud]

haha..your Norwegian? Or am I missing something here again? :D

1/2......my forefathers pilliged and plundered their way across Europe. Thats when the 1/4 German stepped in but we won't discuss them relatives.:cool:

[Miss Green]

Here it is...

Someone please explain to me why there is a date of September 12th, 2001?

http://www.freedomfiles.org/war/pentagon.htm

SAVE TREES! WIPE YOUR ASS WITH THE AMERIKAN FLAG INSTEAD!

Yeah i know it's fucking strange I remember seeing that in the documentary and it's puzzling I can't explain right except the american government have hoodwinked the public yet again when will you people wake up and realise that these people are screwing your country it isn't getting any better the way I see it its getting worst some people over there have to do three jobs just to get by so how's that any better for the majority of the american people.:confused: :mad:

[Great Spirit]

Yeah i know it's fucking strange I remember seeing that in the documentary and it's puzzling I can't explain right except the american government have hoodwinked the public yet again when will you people wake up and realise that these people are screwing your country it isn't getting any better the way I see it its getting worst some people over there have to do three jobs just to get by so how's that any better for the majority of the american people.:confused: :mad:The Amerikan government definately knew that some people would find out the truth, and they have taken measures to silence those people. Thats why Bush authorized unconstitutional phone and email tapping so he can find out who all the dissidents are. They are also setting up detention camps for Amerikan dissidents which will evolve into death camps. Remember the German camps were for political prisoners and homosexuals and communists, but evolved into death camps.

"The truth is yes, you do have these stand by provisions, and the plans are here whereby you could, in the name of stopping terrorism . . . evoke the military and arrest Americans and put them in detention camps." - Congressman Henry Gonzales

Think of it this way. If Nazi Germany was in the 2000s instead of the 30s, do you think that they would check the Internet and monitor phone calls? I think they would!