Iran confirms key nuclear advance

[Great Spirit]

Let the countdown to war with Iran begin....
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http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/middle_east/4900260.stm

Iran has confirmed it has successfully produced the enriched uranium needed to make nuclear fuel.

The declaration, by the nuclear energy chief, followed earlier claims by ex-President Akbar Hashemi Rafsanjani.

It is the first time Iran has produced the uranium since resuming research in February. The UN last month gave Iran 30 days to halt work or face action.

The US responded to the latest news by saying that Iran was "moving in the wrong direction".

Western powers fear Iran is developing a nuclear bomb. Iran says its nuclear programme is for civilian use.

US warning

Vice-president and atomic energy chief Gholam Reza Aghazadeh confirmed enriched uranium production began on Monday at the Natanz plant.

He also said Iran had produced 110 tons of uranium gas needed to feed the process - twice the amount it said last year that it had produced.

The BBC's Frances Harrison in Tehran says international inspectors who are currently visiting Iran's nuclear sites have yet to confirm the production.

The White House condemned Iran's announcement.

Spokesman Scott McClellan said: "If the regime continues to move in the direction that it is currently, then we will be talking about the way forward with the other members of the Security Council and Germany."

Earlier Mr Rafsanjani told Kuwait's Kuna news agency Iran had operated 164 centrifuges for the first time, achieving "industrial output".

The 164 centrifuges are needed to provide the cascade that creates enriched uranium.

But the process would only create the low-level enrichment needed for nuclear fuel.

Iran would need thousands of centrifuges to create the highly enriched uranium needed for nuclear weapons.

Experts say Iran is years away from having a nuclear bomb.

'Nuclear club'

BBC world affairs correspondent Paul Reynolds says the enrichment represents a significant step forward in Iran's nuclear programme.

Although this is not a large production, he says, Iran would seem to have proved that it can do the technology - at least on this scale.

President Ahmadinejad on Monday promised "very good nuclear news in the coming days" regarding Iran's nuclear programme.

Political analyst Saeed Laylaz told Reuters news agency Mr Rafsanjani and Mr Ahmadinejad might be competing with each other over credit for the nuclear programme, which has popular support in Iran.

On Tuesday Mr Ahmadinejad said: "Iran will soon join the club of countries that have nuclear technology... The equation will change in favour of the Iranian people."

The developments coincide with a visit on Wednesday of Mohamed ElBaradei, the head of the International Atomic Energy Agency, who is going to Iran to discuss its nuclear programme.

Mr Rafsanjani, who heads the key governing body, the Expediency Council, is expected to make a visit to Kuwait in a few days time.

[mont974x4]

Our leaders would seriously be in dereliciton of duty if they didn't have a military option in the works.

[Great Spirit]

Our leaders would seriously be in dereliciton of duty if they didn't have a military option in the works. War should be a last option always. You think the US is the only nation allowed to harness nuclear energy?

Shouldn't you turn me in and protect the FatherLand....I mean HomeLand??

[mont974x4]

I never said that did I? Have I ever suggested that? nope. However, Iran has made it very clear that their intent is to destroy the US and Isreal.

As an old soldier myself I know the wisdom behind the saying to pray for peace but prepare for war. All peaceful options should be explored and tried fully, first. That must also be backed up with the willingness to take action if necessary.

[mont974x4]

BTW, I am not LEO of any sort and could care less what you do in your home. I believe the MJ laws are unjust and I am working for change.

[Bong30]

War should be a last option always. You think the US is the only nation allowed to harness nuclear energy?

Shouldn't you turn me in and protect the FatherLand....I mean HomeLand??
If you think they need nuclear energy, you need your head checked out.

dont they have oil for energy?

We need to drop a bunker buster nuke on thier asses. NOW before its too late, and Isreal is gone

[Great Spirit]

BTW, I am not LEO of any sort and could care less what you do in your home. I believe the MJ laws are unjust and I am working for change.Bush says we can trust him which is a lie... so why should I trust you? You vehemently defend Bush and the official 9/11 story. Perhaps Iran is preparing to DEFEND itself in case of a US attack. Remember the old saying...they'll bother you if you bother them.

It's the radical Muslims who hate us, just as the radical Christians who hate gays and liberals and Muslims. The radical Muslims hate our foreign policy. They want Amerika out of their lives because they do not want its ignorance and materialism forced on them. Amerika is a very materialistic society. You need to understand that.

If they wanted an Amerikan style "democracy", they would have made their country like that. Do not force it upon them. Remember too that Saddam Hussein enjoyed Amerikan things such as movies, but he was secular, not a fanatical Muslim whom bin Laden hated.

[Great Spirit]

If you think they need nuclear energy, you need your head checked out.

dont they have oil for energy?

We need to drop a bunker buster nuke on thier asses. NOW before its too late, and Isreal is goneVery warlike son. You sound like a Zionist. ISRAEL IS SPIRITUAL!!! The Jews have been scattered all over and thats the end of it. Would you like it after you were living in a land for over 2,000 years and suddenly they came and took it away? I don't think you would.

Remember, Bush will use fundemental Christianity as his means of fascism.

[mont974x4]

I have said that I disagree with Bush on many issues. I just happen to agree with him on the war on terror.

One of the basic tenets of the Muslim faith is violence when people refuse to convert.

Yes, America is materialistic. Seems that is part of being free to work for what you want and need....not expecting the gov't to take care of you.

Do you think that the iraqi, Afghan, and Iranian people don't want change? don't want freedom to choose for themselves? All those purple fingers shows that they do. Most of the insurgency our boys now face in Iraq is from outside of Iraq.


Should we defend Isreal? You bet. Just like we should help all people regardless of nationality. I believe that firmly enough that I volunteered for the Kosovo campaign to end the genocide. While I didn't agree with Clinton giving so much control of US forces to NATO and the UN, I believe the cause was just. I went and I'm happy to have served not only my nation but my fellow man. If I were not now a disabled vet I woud gladly trade places with one of our troops in Iraq or Afghanistan and let one of these younger guys come home to their family. Something about having my spine fuse prevents that now.

[Bong30]

Very warlike son. You sound like a Zionist. ISRAEL IS SPIRITUAL!!! The Jews have been scattered all over and thats the end of it. Would you like it after you were living in a land for over 2,000 years and suddenly they came and took it away? I don't think you would.

Remember, Bush will use fundemental Christianity as his means of fascism.
Bush is gone in a couple years (try a civics class for term limits)

You sound like a left wing, anti-Semitic, commie, SON

You still dodged the question, good jobâ?¦..

Do they need nuclear energy? The answer is NO.

OK now we know they donâ??t need nuclear energy. What is it for then? Come on SON, you are smart.

[Bong30]

Very warlike son. You sound like a Zionist. ISRAEL IS SPIRITUAL!!! The Jews have been scattered all over and thats the end of it. Would you like it after you were living in a land for over 2,000 years and suddenly they came and took it away? I don't think you would.

Remember, Bush will use fundemental Christianity as his means of fascism.
I lost my dad in viet-nam call me son again I will climb through this screen and knock your teeth out your head, commie..............

[Psycho4Bud]

Israel has stated that no Muslim state in that area will be permitted to go nuclear...especially with the latest elections in Palistine putting HAMAS in charge, Irans days are numbered!:thumbsup:

[Great Spirit]

Israel has stated that no Muslim state in that area will be permitted to go nuclear...especially with the latest elections in Palistine putting HAMAS in charge, Irans days are numbered!:thumbsup:You act like that is a good thing. How sad. :( It's Amerika who needs a good kick in the ass!!

[Bong30]

You act like that is a good thing. How sad. :( It's Amerika who needs a good kick in the ass!!
No its you that needs one IMO.

[Great Spirit]

No its you that needs one IMO.Amerika will fall....oh how the Great Whore of Babylon has fallen!!!

I think I should hightail it to Canada or Europe now!

[Bong30]

Amerika will fall....oh how the Great Whore of Babylon has fallen!!!

I think I should hightail it to Canada or Europe now!

you are showing your true colors.....

as long as there are americans like Torog and Phsyco, mont, and me america will never fall, FUCK YOU.


we should be rounding up commie bitches like you, but you are probly in canada, and bitch about america you fuck stain.

What about my question? what do they need nuclear energy for, FS?

[Great Spirit]

you are showing your true colors.....Dissent is patriotic!


as long as there are americans like Torog and Phsyco, mont, and me america will never fall, FUCK YOU.Oh are those your fascist NSA buddies on this board...including yourself?


we should be rounding up commie bitches like you, but you are probly in canada, and bitch about america you fuck stain.Very good! Thats what the Nazis did! IN FACT..THEY BLAMED THE REICHSTAG FIRE ON A COMMUNIST! I maybe in Canada...and probably not. I wish I was in Canada..hint hint!


What about my question? what do they need nuclear energy for, FS?Why do we need nuclear energy? For energy I assume. What else would they use it for?

[eg420ne]

First we nuke Iran then we can draft all them illegals-gwbush

[mont974x4]

Ahhh come on GS, if you ran away like a scared little girl who would I pick on? LOL

[eg420ne]

We need REGIME CHANGE here in America-Kick them CONgress critters out and that bitch in the whitehouse---I have sum ideas but am not willing to post them as I dont want the friendly FBI coming to my door..I am thinking now that the Illegals protesting is a distraction, so the bitch can have his war...................Divide & Conquer

[mont974x4]

LOL Do you look for conspiracy every where?

Man, I washed my truck the other day and when it dried I noticed I missed s pot. Dang the Bush! He made me miss that spot just I would be distracted.

[eg420ne]

This whole fuking worlds a distraction---------------I plead donald rumsfailed- "WHO KNOWS" There Known Knowns and UnKnowns-----maybe bush did make you miss that spot maybe at the time you were washing your car you tought of bush and it made you missed that lil spot..could happen

[mont974x4]

LOL That's damn funny..blame Bush for a wandering mind.

[Great Spirit]

LOL That's damn funny..blame Bush for a wandering mind.Lol..we'll see who's laughing when we invade Iran. Hey I have a better idea! How about you be the poster boy for blind obedience to Bush, since you will not question 9/11! Hows that? I smell a record deal yall! Mad g's yo! I'm a hustla I'm a I'm a hustla homie! nigga axe about me nigga axe about me!

[GreenKing11]

Iran is no threat. If you want to talk about a threat, lets talk about North Korea, China, and Pakistan. Iran has the right to a peaceful energy program. The CIA has said, even if Iran was left alone and given all the resources they need to make a nuclear weapon, it would take them ten years. That was about a year ago.

[Psycho4Bud]

It's a damn good thing that the U.S. and Bush don't state that marijuana is good for you! Hell, there would be alot of ex-tokers in here.:dance:

[eg420ne]

That dont make sense psycho how you going to relate that with the coming Iran war, that will totally destroy america...If bush says marijuana good for you, im sure his cult members would cut him off, as i already know Cannabis is good for me so i dont need a muppet to tell me that....

[eg420ne]

In a way im looking forward to the coming war in Iran and the Civil war here in the states, i've been wanting to used my firearms on live targets (besides jackrabbits):thumbsup:

[Shelbay]

It's a damn good thing that the U.S. and Bush don't state that marijuana is good for you! Hell, there would be alot of ex-tokers in here.:dance:
hahaha..lmbo on that one!:thumbsup: I do need to stop quoting all you guys in here though...I repeat something I read on here and my friends want to know "where did you hear that"...haha. I am getting "addicted" though to certain posters on here..:thumbsup: ...didn't say that was a bad thing. Its like some of you totally disagree and are very passionate about what you believe..but out of all the intense posts (haha) I learn from them..anyway..I am feeling no pain right now and trying to say most of you help educate..not all..most.:D

[Psycho4Bud]

That dont make sense psycho how you going to relate that with the coming Iran war, that will totally destroy america...If bush says marijuana good for you, im sure his cult members would cut him off, as i already know Cannabis is good for me so i dont need a muppet to tell me that....

Not referring to you at all dude! :thumbsup:

[Shelbay]

In a way im looking forward to the coming war in Iran and the Civil war here in the states, i've been wanting to used my firearms on live targets (besides jackrabbits):thumbsup:
What civil war here? I keep reading that but never hear that here in Alabama..maybe I need to visit different people.:confused: Are you referring to the marches? Or like the previous war between States?

[Psycho4Bud]

In a way im looking forward to the coming war in Iran and the Civil war here in the states, i've been wanting to used my firearms on live targets (besides jackrabbits):thumbsup:

Israel is going to take care of Iran and as for the Civil war.....you know what happened last time! LOL (sorry Shelby!) LOL:thumbsup:

Have a good one...both of ya!:thumbsup:

[eg420ne]

Yes im talking about the marches

[Psycho4Bud]

hahaha..lmbo on that one!:thumbsup: I do need to stop quoting all you guys in here though...I repeat something I read on here and my friends want to know "where did you hear that"...haha. I am getting "addicted" though to certain posters on here..:thumbsup: ...didn't say that was a bad thing. Its like some of you totally disagree and are very passionate about what you believe..but out of all the intense posts (haha) I learn from them..anyway..I am feeling no pain right now and trying to say most of you help educate..not all..most.:D


Your cool! You stand up for what ya believe and your not insultive about it....very cool! Ya know though, if ya start agreeing with me you'll gain the title of neo-con, nazi, bush lovin', NSA agent! OH NO MR. BILL!!! LOL

Have a good one!:thumbsup:

[eg420ne]

Israel is going to take care of Iran and as for the Civil war.....you know what happened last time! LOL (sorry Shelby!) LOL:thumbsup:

Have a good one...both of ya!:thumbsup:
This time around we'll keep on fighting and not let a drunk decide to quit:D

[Psycho4Bud]

Yes im talking about the marches

Shit dude, gotta excuse me a bit.....visited with Mr. Bingy before I jumped on!:dance:

[Psycho4Bud]

This time around we'll keep on fighting and not let a drunk decide to quit:D

I'm from Wis. dude, land of the drunks! I saw a thing on tv the other night where we have the most fatalities in the nation of drunken students drownding in the rivers and lakes! Guess there won't be any Wisconsin generals leading the march!..LOL

[Great Spirit]

One of the basic tenets of the Muslim faith is violence when people refuse to convert.Yes, but all religions have violence. Remember..religion is way different then spirituality. Religion is the outward form of worship...while spirituality is the inward form of worship. The God the mainstream Christians and Amerikans claim to worship is the Jewish God Jehovah whom ordered the killings of women and children when the Jews first invaded Jerusalem and took it for themselves...and homosexuals were to be put to death on the spot!!! Jesus revealed the true God....our own Higher Selves that form the Superconscious...the Ultimate Reality. We are God! We need to find the uncreated in the created! The trick is just to accept it!

"For a good work we stone thee not, but for blasphemy because that thou being a man makest thyself God! Jesus said "is it not written in your law I said ye are gods?"

Think of creation as Gods dream and the manifestation of God. But if you are having the idea that God is an old man on a throne assigning people to heaven and hell...you are chasing an illusion.

"The Kingdom of God is within you!" - Master Yeshua

[Ap0c4lyPtIcF4t3]

I agree, North Korea should be on the top of our list and China coming in close at second. Although just because their 10 years away it doesnt mean we should turn the blind shoulder on them, nip it in the bud early and it would probably be less of a mess. The longer you wait the worse. The fact is if we start dropping nukes instead of using more conventional weapons then we are starting a whole new game. Just because they are bunker buster nukes doesnt stop the fact that their will be fallouts and radioactive zones. Dropping nukes on someones country totally fucks them for longer than you would think. If we or someone else does attack Iran we should stick to conventional weapons and stay away from the nukes. Go read up about what happens when you drop a nuke on a populated area....its really fucked up!


GS- I wish you would stop being such a little spaz and avoid shooting yourself in the foot so much. You have some good information and you have some bad information, learn to show your good cards buddy!

eg420ne - Id really like to hear your ideas but if you are paranoid to the point where you think the FBI would come to your door then maybe your ideas arent so great after all......


Have a good one! :)


EDIT: GS if your gonna quote something quote it right, The kingdom of god is within you is from the bible.....

[Breukelen advocaat]

A few ideas and suggestions:

If we pulled out of the Middle East entirely, and bought nothing from them, they'd be fucked up. Cut them down to size, and you'll hear them whistling a different tune.

It won't happen anytime soon because most people in this country are not disciplined enough to learn how to conserve, and sacrifice, so that we can do this.

Fuck the Middle East where they breathe, and we'll be doing a service to the future generations because there will be less pollution and hostility.

Europe and North America should relocate Israelis into another part of the world, if they want to leave. If they desire to stay, then they must be given notice that we're not paying for their military anymore.

Fuck jihad, and the people that support it.

A lot of Middle Eastern music, which we've heard in stores and on people's radios in New York for some time, sounds like "moaning". Well, they'll be doing a lot more of that if I were in charge!

It's time for a moratorium on purchases, and other business, with these arrogant, ignorant assholes. If that does not work, then there are other choices, which I won't get into now.
:thumbsup:

[Ap0c4lyPtIcF4t3]

Id agree with what you say if it were plausible for society to accomplish it. Bombing the shit out of someone might exterminate some terrorists or terrorist threats but in the long run it just breeds a new more extreme kind of terrorist. Since we are unable to get a grasp on your idea and actually follow through we turn to plan B, force with extreme prejudice. I like your ideas and wisdom about the situation and i really do wish we had more people like you in office :)

Have a good one!

[Breukelen advocaat]

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Id agree with what you say if it were plausible for society to accomplish it. Bombing the shit out of someone might exterminate some terrorists or terrorist threats but in the long run it just breeds a new more extreme kind of terrorist. Since we are unable to get a grasp on your idea and actually follow through we turn to plan B, force with extreme prejudice. I like your ideas and wisdom about the situation and i really do wish we had more people like you in office :)Have a good one![/SIZE

By attacking the major cities of Afghanistan, we did exactly what bin laden wants. He was in the hills laughing, while we're wasting the taliban regime.

A friend of mine, an older fellow, put forth the proposition in the days following 9/11/01, that we should have pattern-bombed the areas where al quada were hiding immediately, and then issued a denial - maybe even "condolences". THAT would have shaken them up. They thought, perhaps correctly, that they could "out-crazy" us.

This, combined with a boycott of all petroleum-related products from the Middle East, would have had a much greater effect on terrorism. I know, from experience, that nobody messes with crazy people.

The terrorists and their supporters also know that jihad is, according to Western thought, "impossible" to prevent. Well, there's a guy named Big Mike, who put it like this: You put out the word that if anybody wants to commit jihad, and go to Allah, then their â??whole fucking family is going with themâ??. See www.thekidfrombrooklyn.com videos â??Terrorists". â??Bat Dayâ?� is also very funny. The guy is not a political or foreign-policy genius, but he has the experience to come up with these survival solutions.

Iâ??ve avoided many ugly situations by letting people know that their life would be over if they tried anything on me - and I meant it. It beats fighting or getting fucked up.

[Great Spirit]

Ahhh come on GS, if you ran away like a scared little girl who would I pick on? LOLAt least the Nazis will have a harder time finding me. Maybe I'll go to Vancouver or Amsterdam. Pot friendly cities..for pot friendly anti-amerikan people.

[Shelbay]

I'm from Wis. dude, land of the drunks! I saw a thing on tv the other night where we have the most fatalities in the nation of drunken students drownding in the rivers and lakes! Guess there won't be any Wisconsin generals leading the march!..LOL
Wisconsin does have alot of bars! I have been to the reservation there and I noticed that there were like 3 & 4 bars on the same street..one after another..and beer signs everywhere..but it was freezing when I visited so maybe all that freezing weather makes some people need something to warm up. It was so cold the time I was there (just a couple of months ago) it looked like the deer were frozen! Maybe natives are used to that kind of extreme cold...I didn't see any bars on the actual land of the reservation though...

[Shelbay]

Your cool! You stand up for what ya believe and your not insultive about it....very cool! Ya know though, if ya start agreeing with me you'll gain the title of neo-con, nazi, bush lovin', NSA agent! OH NO MR. BILL!!! LOL

Have a good one!:thumbsup:
Thats okay..I have been called worse haha:D I have seen neo-con many times on the internet but never asked what it meant..I just acted like I knew what it was but I am not sure..people talk about different color states..truth is I am not even sure what my home States color is..I have opinions on politics but I know I am way out of my league attempting to debate that subject because it really does give me a headache trying to sort it all out..so I usually trust my heart..and my husbands influence..He is a total supporter Of President Bush..but then he is a Roll Tide fan also..haha..I am Auburn all the way..Roll Tigers! I had to put that in just in case he comes in this weekend and decided to "play" with my computer again..like its a toy or something! haha..men!:) I even like reading that guy Great Spirits post (SOMETIMES) but he usually scares me off..I think he means well but he has smoked some really good stuff for way to long..paranoid....

[Great Spirit]

I even like reading that guy Great Spirits post (SOMETIMES) but he usually scares me off..I think he means well but he has smoked some really good stuff for way to long..paranoid....haha. At least you enjoy my posts...I am honored. And yes I have smoked some very good stuff in my time..many times!

However remember the old saying..."truth is stranger then fiction!" They also called Jesus a crazy because he believed he was God. Would you dare say Jesus was a schitzo?

Think about it!!

[Bong30]

At least the Nazis will have a harder time finding me. Maybe I'll go to Vancouver or Amsterdam. Pot friendly cities..for pot friendly anti-amerikan people.
Dude GO........... dont let the door hit ya, where the good lord split ya (always wanted to say that)

ill prove that GS= zero

The additive inverse....
Gs + (-GS) = 0
(greatspirit) + {NEGITIVEgreatspirt(we can all agree he is negitive)}= ZERO

dude i flamed you using math...hahahahahahahahah:thumbsup: