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Great Spirit
04-10-2006, 12:50 AM
Fuck that shit...they're planning it. Can't fool us! Same shit they were saying about Iraq before they invaded.
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http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20060409/ap_on_go_pr_wh/us_iran

WASHINGTON - The White House on Sunday sought to dampen the idea of a U.S. military strike on Iran, saying the United States is conducting "normal defense and intelligence planning" as President Bush seeks a diplomatic solution to Tehran's suspected nuclear weapons program.

Administration officials â?? from President Bush on down â?? have left open the possibility of a military response if Iran does not end its nuclear ambitions. Several reports published Sunday said the administration was studying options for military strikes; one account raised the possibility of using nuclear bombs against Iran's underground nuclear sites.

Britain's foreign secretary called the idea of a nuclear strike "completely nuts."

Dan Bartlett, counselor to Bush, cautioned against reading too much into administration planning.

"The president's priority is to find a diplomatic solution to a problem the entire world recognizes," Bartlett told The Associated Press on Sunday. "And those who are drawing broad, definitive conclusions based on normal defense and intelligence planning, are ill-informed and are not knowledgeable of the administration's thinking on Iran."

Experts say a military strike on Iran would be risky and complicated. U.S. forces already are preoccupied with Iraq and Afghanistan, and an attack against Iran could inflame U.S. problems in the Muslim world.

British Foreign Secretary Jack Straw, in an interview with the British Broadcasting Corp., said Britain would not launch a pre-emptive strike on Iran and he was as "certain as he could be" that neither would the U.S. He said he has a high suspicion that Iran is developing a civil nuclear capability which in turn could be used for nuclear weapons, but there is "no smoking gun" to prove it and justify military action.

"I understand people's frustration with the diplomatic process," Straw said. "It takes a long time and is quite a subtle process. The reason why we're opposed to military action is because it's an infinitely worse option and there's no justification for it."

The U.N. Security Council has demanded Iran suspend its uranium enrichment program. But Iran has so far refused to halt its nuclear activity, saying the small-scale enrichment project was strictly for research and not for development of nuclear weapons.

Bush has said Iran may pose the greatest challenge to the United States of any other country in the world. And while he has stressed that diplomacy is always preferable, he has defended his administration's strike-first policy against terrorists and other enemies.

"The threat from Iran is, of course, their stated objective to destroy our strong ally Israel," the president said last month in Cleveland. "That's a threat, a serious threat. It's a threat to world peace; it's a threat, in essence, to a strong alliance. I made it clear, I'll make it clear again, that we will use military might to protect our ally."

Vice President Dick Cheney told the pro-Israel lobbying group AIPAC last month, "The United States is keeping all options on the table in addressing the irresponsible conduct of the regime. And we join other nations in sending that regime a clear message: We will not allow Iran to have a nuclear weapon."

Secretary of State Condoleezza Rice stressed in an April 1 interview with British television channel ITV that the United States is committed to diplomacy to solve the issue. "However," she added, "the president of the United States doesn't take his options off the table."

Pentagon spokesman Lt. Col. Mark Ballesteros said Sunday that the president and State Department are working with other nations "to address diplomatically the troublesome activities of the Iranian government. And the U.S. military never comments on contingency planning."

Stephen Cimbala, a Pennsylvania State University professor who studies U.S. foreign policy, said it would be no surprise that the Pentagon has contingency plans for strike on Iran. But he the administration's hint of military strikes is more of a show to Iran and the public than a feasible option.

"If you look at the military options, all of them are unattractive," Cimbala said. "Either because they weren't work or because they have side effects where the cure is worse than the disease."

Sen. John Kerry, D-Mass., criticized the administration for using "shoot from the hip, cowboy diplomacy" during an appearance on NBC's "Meet the Press." He said the president should be doing more to get sanctions against Iran. He said even though the military option must be left open, "it's a terrible option fundamentally, and they know it and everybody else knows it."

The New Yorker magazine said the administration had increased clandestine activities inside Iran and intensified planning for a possible major air attack and that one option envisioned the use of a bunker-buster tactical nuclear weapon to insure the destruction of Iran' s main centrifuge plant, at Natanz.

The New York Times quoted officials as rejecting the contention that the administration was considering the use of nuclear weapons.

Ap0c4lyPtIcF4t3
04-10-2006, 04:11 AM
I have read up on their so called bunker busting nuclear warheads and they only penetrate 20-30 feet underground. Our policy is fucked up and anyone in their right mind should be able to see that. Bush is playing is own game now, cannot deny that. I believe that the Iran war isnt far away and he will leave it for the next presidents term so the weight willl be on their shoulders and most likely fuck up their term.

Great Spirit
04-10-2006, 08:12 PM
Geez...what a lovely avatar you have. The war with Iran is closer then you think.

Psycho4Bud
04-10-2006, 08:49 PM
I have read up on their so called bunker busting nuclear warheads and they only penetrate 20-30 feet underground. Our policy is fucked up and anyone in their right mind should be able to see that. Bush is playing is own game now, cannot deny that. I believe that the Iran war isnt far away and he will leave it for the next presidents term so the weight willl be on their shoulders and most likely fuck up their term.

A sled test on 26 February proved that the bomb could penetrate over 20 feet of concrete, while an earlier flight test had demonstrated the bomb's ability to penetrate more than 100 feet of earth.
http://www.fas.org/man/dod-101/sys/smart/gbu-28.htm

Still say it won't be us doing the damage. Same as what happened in Iraq. Israel said no way,
Saddam said fuck you,
U.N. gave a recommendation and did nothing,
Israel said thats enough and took out the plant,
The U.N. condemned Israels actions,
Israel said fuck you all.
End of story!

Bombing the shit out of Iran won't piss off any of the other Muslim countries but Palistine. After all, the Sunni's in the area would actually be grateful for having the Shi-ite threat in Iran taken out. Why do ya think they all supported Saddam during the Iraq/Iran war?:stoned:

Psycho4Bud
04-10-2006, 08:54 PM
Israel admitted yesterday that it is buying 500 "bunker-buster" bombs, which could be used to hit Iran's nuclear facilities, as Teheran paraded ballistic missiles as a warning against attack.

The BLU-109 bombs, which can penetrate more than 7ft of reinforced concrete, are among "smart" munitions being sold to Israel under America's military aid programme.:thumbsup:
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/main.jhtml?xml=/news/2004/09/22/wnuke22.xml&sSheet=/portal/2004/09/22/ixportaltop.html

mont974x4
04-10-2006, 09:05 PM
I say we let Israel take them out. They are very efficient warriors and not so PC, like we are.

Ap0c4lyPtIcF4t3
04-10-2006, 09:21 PM
Geez...what a lovely avatar you have. The war with Iran is closer then you think.


Geez..it is a lovely avatar isnt it? Maybe if you werent such a half-wit you would realize that the swastika goes back much further than nazi Germany. Since you are a half-wit I guess i cant blame you. The way you spew this shit about Bush reminds me of some hardcore fanatic religious preacher. Maybe if you didnt act like such a half-wit people would take your points more serious. You shoot yourself in the foot like it was second nature to you......sad :(



That is the nazi swastika. You notice anything different, if you dont then you should shut your mouth about these 9/11 videos ya chump! Have a good one!
:thumbsup:

Ap0c4lyPtIcF4t3
04-10-2006, 09:30 PM
A sled test on 26 February proved that the bomb could penetrate over 20 feet of concrete, while an earlier flight test had demonstrated the bomb's ability to penetrate more than 100 feet of earth.
http://www.fas.org/man/dod-101/sys/smart/gbu-28.htm

Still say it won't be us doing the damage. Same as what happened in Iraq. Israel said no way,
Saddam said fuck you,
U.N. gave a recommendation and did nothing,
Israel said thats enough and took out the plant,
The U.N. condemned Israels actions,
Israel said fuck you all.
End of story!

Bombing the shit out of Iran won't piss off any of the other Muslim countries but Palistine. After all, the Sunni's in the area would actually be grateful for having the Shi-ite threat in Iran taken out. Why do ya think they all supported Saddam during the Iraq/Iran war?:stoned:


Im not sure if the GBU-28 is the one i read about, It might have been that one but with a nuclear warhead instead.

If it is Israel that takes action its not like we wont have a role in it as well.

Psycho4Bud
04-10-2006, 09:53 PM
Im not sure if the GBU-28 is the one i read about, It might have been that one but with a nuclear warhead instead.

If it is Israel that takes action its not like we wont have a role in it as well.

With the reactors in Iraq we sat back and watched....it'll be interesting on this one but I believe that the first strike will by Israel. If shit really hits the fan after the fact I would'nt doubt we turn into a player.

By the way, what is your avatar symbolic of? Of course I recognize the center cross but it seems the outer area looks familiar for some reason.

Have a good one!:thumbsup: (you know that originated with Torog.)

Great Spirit
04-11-2006, 04:19 AM
Geez..it is a lovely avatar isnt it? Maybe if you werent such a half-wit you would realize that the swastika goes back much further than nazi Germany. Since you are a half-wit I guess i cant blame you. The way you spew this shit about Bush reminds me of some hardcore fanatic religious preacher. Maybe if you didnt act like such a half-wit people would take your points more serious. You shoot yourself in the foot like it was second nature to you......sad :(



That is the nazi swastika. You notice anything different, if you dont then you should shut your mouth about these 9/11 videos ya chump! Have a good one!
:thumbsup:No shit....the swastika was religious in origin perverted by the Nazis. Fascism and religion are tied together. Bush's form of fascism will be fundemental Christianity. Are you one of Psycho's friends from the NSA?

Look at the similarities here...LOOK REAL CLOSE!!