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MaRiAh
04-08-2006, 08:57 PM
1 of my plants has a bud on it with holes in the new leaves around the bud... they look kinda like chewed holes
but none of the other plants have that...... what could b wrong with my plant????....... any help greatly appreciated! :)

also theres a bunch of little brown fly thingys that are about a 1mm they have been there since the plants were like a week old..... they never hurt the plants yet... i think theyre fruit flies.....

turtle420
04-08-2006, 09:00 PM
Ahaha!!! Such a constructive post... funny! :)

You have some pests... those are the little 1mm animals. Try and search these threads for "pests" and solutions.

It has a hole in the bud? They flowering already? How many days into flowering?

MaRiAh
04-08-2006, 09:07 PM
Ahaha!!! Such a constructive post... funny! :)

You have some pests... those are the little 1mm animals. Try and search these threads for "pests" and solutions.

It has a hole in the bud? They flowering already? How many days into flowering?
... constructive???? O.o what do u mean by that?....


my dad thinks that there are mites or something but i think its gnats..... cept im not sure O.o

the holes are in the leaves around the bud.... only the new leaves....

they have been slowly growing buds for like uh...... 3 weeks now i think
the plants are like 3-4 months old.... i planted them around christmas

turtle420
04-08-2006, 09:10 PM
Constructive?

Pink letters. Funky word placement... Constructive.

Nothing bad there! Keep it up, it brings some "flavor" to the boards.

What lights are you using? Are the lights running in a 12/12 schedule? Any pictures possible?

Best,

-turtle420 :cool:
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MaRiAh
04-08-2006, 09:14 PM
i dont have the right lights.... but the plants are like 3 feet tall now....
the light i am using right now is a 500 watt halogen and they go on at 11am and off at 11pm.... this is my first grow so its pretty much just an experiment but i wouldnt want the past while of looking after the plants to turn out to be a complete waste of time.... not that i dont have tons of time to waste but yah....
i could try to scan the leaf..... but i dont think it would work.....

turtle420
04-08-2006, 09:26 PM
Nah, don't worry with the leaf-scanning.

Um... can you put more lights into it?
Fluorescents... if possible.

Halogen is really not the best... but, oh well... they're 3 feet tall already.
....

Well, search for "pests"... there are many remedies... and description of the bugs... so you'll be able to pin-point what you have in there... then, ATTACK!

:)

LIP
04-08-2006, 09:59 PM
Halogens are crap for growing... I bet your plants are stretched? Any pics?

You need to get some CFL's...

As for pests all i can think of is them little bugs... And they're eating the new growth?

Google it and try and find out how to cure the problem without damaging the plants in this VERY gental stage of its life... Dont wanna stress it

MaRiAh
04-08-2006, 11:33 PM
yah theyre stretched....
i cant get any diff lights cuz my mom wont buy any and i have no money as i am 14 -.-
so halogen will have to do.
yah theyre eating the new growth and theyre now on like 3 plants..... wtf....
i have already googled it but couldnt find anything useful cuz they didnt have any pics of an infested plant that i could compare to mine to try and see what they have....

rodekyll
04-09-2006, 12:52 AM
If you're sure there's not little critters hiding on those chewed leaves, you have to assume it's the little files. You might want to pick one and look it completely over with a strong lens just to be sure there's not crawly little mites or something there. Tiny black flies seem to be common in indoor gardens, but I've never heard of the ones I'm thinking about actually bothering anything.

Without knowing what they are it might be hard to kill them off, and during bud especially, you don't want to dose the plants with insecticide. You'll be smoking it soon. . . I'm an advocate of flypaper as a passive "control" (not eradication) technique. It's cheap, environmentally friendly, and works pretty good even when you're not there. The strips in my grow area are fuzzy with all kinds of little bugs. There's another kind of flypaper that essentially sits in front of a nite lite. It works best at night and also seems to attract a crapload of little bugs. I'm not sure it's suitable for a grow room though.

Are you spraying the plants with water or nutes? Is there dripping condensation ever? Those things can contribute to burning holes through the plants, although the telltale there is often brown spotting.

If your mom is being cool about you growing at all, you're right -- stick with the halogen bulb. Don't push her good will by asking for more $$. But if you could somehow come up with a more efficient light source (read discussions) everyone (esp the plants) would come out ahead.

Good luck!

busteruk7
04-09-2006, 12:53 AM
try and get ya mum to get ya a red spectrum envirolite that will do nicely a 200w if possible and tell her she will save a hell of a lot on electric as it is an energy saving lamp too it will save her money in the long run :)
cheers hope this helps

MaRiAh
04-09-2006, 02:02 AM
try and get ya mum to get ya a red spectrum envirolite that will do nicely a 200w if possible and tell her she will save a hell of a lot on electric as it is an energy saving lamp too it will save her money in the long run :)
cheers hope this helps
she has barely any money at the moment thus she cant buy a light.....
so i have to stick with the halogen.....
this may sound weird but my brother says that we could put 2 blacklights in the room and it would add to the light too.... i dont think it would cuz theyre 50 watt blacklights.... so yah
would they work?

im gonna try to get some flypaper or fruit fly traps maybe...... and set them near the soil.

MaRiAh
04-09-2006, 02:16 AM
If you're sure there's not little critters hiding on those chewed leaves, you have to assume it's the little files. You might want to pick one and look it completely over with a strong lens just to be sure there's not crawly little mites or something there. Tiny black flies seem to be common in indoor gardens, but I've never heard of the ones I'm thinking about actually bothering anything.

Without knowing what they are it might be hard to kill them off, and during bud especially, you don't want to dose the plants with insecticide. You'll be smoking it soon. . . I'm an advocate of flypaper as a passive "control" (not eradication) technique. It's cheap, environmentally friendly, and works pretty good even when you're not there. The strips in my grow area are fuzzy with all kinds of little bugs. There's another kind of flypaper that essentially sits in front of a nite lite. It works best at night and also seems to attract a crapload of little bugs. I'm not sure it's suitable for a grow room though.

Are you spraying the plants with water or nutes? Is there dripping condensation ever? Those things can contribute to burning holes through the plants, although the telltale there is often brown spotting.

If your mom is being cool about you growing at all, you're right -- stick with the halogen bulb. Don't push her good will by asking for more $$. But if you could somehow come up with a more efficient light source (read discussions) everyone (esp the plants) would come out ahead.

Good luck!
not very many leaves on my plants have ever had water on them... poured.
but a couple times i accidently spilled a bit on a leaf or two but the plants were never really wet.

im so stoned :stoned:
:)

LIP
04-09-2006, 10:37 AM
Hang on hang on.....

Right, so your using halogen, OK.

Now, do you water your plants or mist them with the lights on?

Because if you mist them with the light (errr i hate halogen) on it will burn the leaves, and burn through. If you dont, then you know it definatly is the bugs...

turtle420
04-09-2006, 07:15 PM
im so stoned :stoned:
:)
Stop buying weed, and buy some CFLs. :)

LIP
04-09-2006, 08:06 PM
Basically, at the moment, i dont think your going to get any weed from your plant, and it will all have been a waste of time.

you need to concentrate, and read up before you start.

Halogen wont work. You NEED red spectrum CFL's to get any bud, and even then you'd need about 6 to get something good.

MaRiAh
04-10-2006, 06:46 PM
Basically, at the moment, i dont think your going to get any weed from your plant, and it will all have been a waste of time.

you need to concentrate, and read up before you start.

Halogen wont work. You NEED red spectrum CFL's to get any bud, and even then you'd need about 6 to get something good.
AS I SED B4 I ALREADY KNOW HALOGENS WONT WORK -_-

i scanned a piece of the plant that i cut off.... i think ima cut off all the buds and just have them as plants.... cuz the bugs didnt start attacking till buds appeared..... i started off only wanting pot plants for the sake of having a pot plant.... i was planning on treating them as house plants kinda....
my goal when i planted those seeds was not to smoke the bud off the plant as the seeds were from crappy plants anyway


anyway heres the damage =/

http://i49.photobucket.com/albums/f297/happy-happy--faace/Picture.jpg

i need to know something i can use to get rid of these bugs... im thinking of just cutting the plants down to the first node and then getting rid of the bugs... but i think it would just kill the plants....these plants are NOT going to be smoked so yah....


oh and turtle 420.... i dont buy weed:P ever..... my parents and brother supply my weed:)

that little bud thingy was bigger b4 the bugs attacked......


is there any like household thingy i can use to kill these bugs or do i have to go to a store and buy some special bug killing shit....?????

MaRiAh
04-10-2006, 06:48 PM
o and btw... i dont mist the plants, i water them from the bottom..... so the leaves are never wet unless i accidently spill some....

LIP
04-10-2006, 06:54 PM
Well... Not smoking the bud is kinda missing the point in growing it, although you can keep them as a house plant...

turtle420
04-10-2006, 08:58 PM
oh and turtle 420.... i dont buy weed:P ever..... my parents and brother supply my weed:)
Hmmm.... interesting situation...

I was going to suggest you sell some of that freely-supplied weed.... but now I remembered you're 14 years old... and it'd be very bad on my part to suggest such a thing. Sooo.... please un-read this post.

MaRiAh
04-10-2006, 10:55 PM
Well... Not smoking the bud is kinda missing the point in growing it, although you can keep them as a house plant...
i already sed... this grow thingy is just so i can practice growing it so when i get all the proper shit then i can grow plants properly....
and turtle420
they dont give me weed or oil they smoke it with me.....
so i couldnt sell it.....
they did better then i expected.... the reason i really started growing them was cuz i had a bunch of seeds on my windowsill and 3 of them sprouted from the condensation so i planted the rest anyway......

Garden Knowm
04-11-2006, 02:18 AM
BUGS always attack plants of growers under 18..

at least that's what all the magazines say!!

iloveyou

rodekyll
04-11-2006, 03:21 AM
BUGS always attack plants of growers under 18..

at least that's what all the magazines say!!

iloveyou

So as long as I have bugs in my garden I'll stay young forever? wooohooo! The fruitfly of youth!

MaRiAh
04-11-2006, 07:37 AM
So as long as I have bugs in my garden I'll stay young forever? wooohooo! The fruitfly of youth!
lmao u wish :P

MaRiAh
04-11-2006, 07:43 AM
BUGS always attack plants of growers under 18..

at least that's what all the magazines say!!

iloveyou
lol
........i hate bugs........
.........theyre so destructive....
........but then again people are worse........
.....but still.....
........they are annoying.........
........ok now im just rambling.....
:stoned: