The Real World.

[DusanTafari]

Ok, I have a theory.

We humans are animals(obviously) but there are other animals(obviously) like the squirrel and shit, well the fucking squirrel doesn't have government and countries and shit, he just fucking lives on the earth with the other animals in peace, but fucking humans make fucking countries and build shit and divide shit up, and force new born human babies to conform to their culture and shit, and they force what they want upon us, when really we shoudl be free, to do w/e with complete anarchy, because we are born in this world into animals, but we are fucking bossed around by the elders of us, so if we could somehow get born before our elders we can kill them and let everyone live what they want.

[Wright]

You mean live like savages?

[C4nn4Bliss]

animals do not live in peace

animals are territorial

[Kokujin X]

Still... I think you would find a lawless state wouldn't be peaceful in the least. If we can't even withhold peace in a civilized world, then how can we do so in a world of uneducated/lawless people?

[1234abcd]

animals do not live in peace

animals are territorial

Werd :thumbsup:

[justinsane]

when really we shoudl be free, to do w/e with complete anarchy, because we are born in this world into animals,

we are already the most violent destructive monsterous animals on this planet... if there was anarchy, that would only feed the hunger for destruction.

a good thought though. ive thought about that so many times... how we're supposed to be just like them, but then something went wrong and we evolved.

[WeedLovingVeteran]

Its called Evolution........DUH.

We have got the stage were its going all down hill and the destruction of civilisation is imminant.

I hope the squirrals have better luck than we do.

[imagoober]

DusanTafari is just saying that we should be allowed to live as we want! its how it works in nature, eat sleep fuck, kill or be killed, but we dont have the choice because society has mad it so you cant and the governemt enforces there laws.. he naver said that things would work or be easier! I myself totally agree with him! but i also understand the benefits of a government! Fuck this World and Fuck the Man!

[WeedLovingVeteran]

Its just a stupid idea plain and simple, their would always be a structed government of some kind as groups of people would form and become bigger and bigger.

John Lennon had the right idea. IMAGINE!

[higher4hockey]

squirrels get eaten by fox and other predators...fuck that!
squirrels also get shot by humans. if you want to live like that, sell all your shit, get off your computer and go live in hte woods!

[imagoober]

Its just a stupid idea plain and simple
your looking at it wrong! its not the idea, its the POINT!

[zephyrinne]

Animals have a hieracrchy somewhat when it comes to species. Take for instance a wolf pack... they have dominent alpha males and females, sometimes only the alpha males within a pack are allowed to breed.. So when you say that us humans are always bossed around by others, it's can be like that in the animal kingdom too.

You don't have a bad point, but there's no way humans could live peacefully with one another in society without law.

[kronick]

We humans are animals(obviously) but there are other animals(obviously) like the squirrel and shit, well the fucking squirrel doesn't have government and countries and shit, he just fucking lives on the earth with the other animals in peace, but fucking humans make fucking countries and build shit and divide shit up, and force new born human babies to conform to their culture and shit, and they force what they want upon us, when really we shoudl be free, to do w/e with complete anarchy, because we are born in this world into animals, but we are fucking bossed around by the elders of us, so if we could somehow get born before our elders we can kill them and let everyone live what they want.

i was totally agreeing with you untill anarchy came up. we just need genuinely good people to be pulling the strings in governments(like thats ever gonna happen). whos to blame for the cockroaches who are in power now? we are(in most cases). although anarchy was probably a good idea at one point in time for humans, its definatly not a good one anymore.

[TipTIP]

or, even easier to make peace, somehow get everyone in the whole world to do acid a bunch.

[C4nn4Bliss]

the government is too big and not enough people care OR have the balls to topple this government......end of story......sit back,relax,and pray for the tribulation!

[Gecko]

It's because we're smarter than a squirrel with a brain the size of a peanut.

[kronick]

the government is too big and not enough people care OR have the balls to topple this government......end of story......sit back,relax,and pray for the tribulation!


im trying to make people care. its lazy bums like you who make our governments turn to the dark side. ill do what ever i can to make things better.

[partyguy420]

well if we are animals, then why do we have so many laws, i mean, ive never seen a squirle smokin a joint, and he a 5-o squirle come up and say"your busted" and put the squirle in the back of the squirle 5-o car.

[Fengzi]

Animals have a hieracrchy somewhat when it comes to species. Take for instance a wolf pack... they have dominent alpha males and females, sometimes only the alpha males within a pack are allowed to breed.. So when you say that us humans are always bossed around by others, it's can be like that in the animal kingdom too.
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Zephyrinne is right, I was going to mention this but she beat me to it. Even ants and bees have a fairly defined "social structure". Humans are more advanced so we naturally have a more advanced social structure.

[pixel]

well if we are animals, then why do we have so many laws, i mean, ive never seen a squirle smokin a joint, and he a 5-o squirle come up and say"your busted" and put the squirle in the back of the squirle 5-o car.

what does that have to do with us being animals? just because we are smart enough to have all of the things that you just mentioned does not mean that we are not animals. we are living things with organs as our engine. biologically there is no difference between you and an animal. some people think that they have free will, and that seperates them from being animals. if you think that, you're just decieving yourself. every decision you make is based on previous decisions, classical and operant conditioning, and observational learning. there is no such thing as free will, unfortunately.

i completely agree with the first post, but there is no way an anarchist society would work in todays world. it's just TOO LATE for that unfortunately. people always say "human nature" would keep us from being able to live in an anarchist society, but most human nature is caused by capitalism in the first place.

think about it: why do people steal others' belongings? because those belongings cost money that the stealers don't have. if everyone got only what they needed there would be no need to steal. almost all of this "human nature" concept is manipulating others for personal gain, and personal gain is what capitalism is all about...

BUT another thing to consider is that in an anarchist and equal society, there would be a complete lack of motivation. people don't want to do something if it does not better themselves, and we could not move forward in any sort of technology or invention or service or anything like that because there would be no point in doing anything if there is no reward. unfortunately this is just how most people think.

basically what i'm saying is that you're right on paper, but anarchy or communism just does not work in real life. it's too late for something so radical in a frighteningly conservative world.

[Nausicaa]

"One of the penalties for refusing to participate in politics is that you end up being governed by your inferiors."

-Plato

[Nausicaa]

There have also been many societies in history, and many that still exist today, with communal living arrangements. These socities are not anarchist in the strictest sense, but it's close. They usually operate just fine with their "human nature" until a greater power steps in and fucks it up. Of course, these are usually small bands of nomadic people and their arrangements can in no way be imposed on a society as large as America.

At the same time, it seems pretty dumb to be making posts like this while enjoying the fruits of capatilistic society. I mean, you are communicating with others over a network built by government on a computer manufactured by corporations while sitting in a chair made by somebody else in a house that your "elders" bought.

Life could always be better, but I'm pretty happy with the way things are - everything considered.

[Got That Haze]

Dusan you sound like an anarchist hippie douch so stop talking and get the fuck out of the country.

[orangeman]

DusanTafari what the fuck is your problem?

[HeLTeR.SKeLTeR]

i DONT really get you point Dusan but


we are animals just like them, animals eat, sleep, shit and have sex, we are the same except we can think, therefore making governments, books, glass bongs, the internet, the beatles and everything you know about



so I hope that makes your day better