Peyote...

[infidel818]

Anyone know where i can buy a peyote cactus. I want to try it. Also, how is peyote used?

[Eshelmen]

dude its illegal... and almost impossible to find in some areas...only grows in new mexico i heard...
get it from a native american

[infidel818]

i know its illegal, but there are no sites or anything to buy it from? It sounds like a very good experience.

[God v2.0]

you can get peruvian torch cactus or san pedro, they are both the exact same as peyote but they are 100% legal (unless they are sold as a drug)

[infidel818]

you can get peruvian torch cactus or san pedro, they are both the exact same as peyote but they are 100% legal (unless they are sold as a drug)

i love you god. Do you have any sites in your extensive knowledge so i can obtain those magic cactae?

[God v2.0]

nope. but i heard that alot of nursery stores carry them, crack open a phone book and call up all the local ones and ask if they sell specialty cacti.

http://www.herbalfire.com/product_info.php?products_id=91 at this site you can buy seeds, cutting and even rooted cuttings.



be sure to take the thorns out before ya eat it!!;) ;) ;)

[infidel818]

i remember visiting one site that told you how much you should eat in order to get a good trip. Do you know god?

[God v2.0]

try erowid

[infidel818]

i looked erowid....i want to get a 12inch cuttling....but erowid is all about grams. How many grams is a 12 inch cuttling. How many 12 inch cuttlings would i need to feel the full effect?

[God v2.0]

a foot long cutting will last you a while. all you need is a little cube like 2"X2"X2"
and suck on it and you will trip out for hours.

[infidel818]

So if i get a 12 inch cutting and i eat the whole thing.....would that be good?

[Jimmicrackedcorn]

http://www.mindzeyecreationz.com/ based in america, I've got the peruvian torch incense and it's like ecstasy 100x :D. I took about 30g in a tea.

[infidel818]

http://www.mindzeyecreationz.com/ based in america, I've got the peruvian torch incense and it's like ecstasy 100x :D. I took about 30g in a tea.

Whats the difference between the incense and the actual cactus.

Ok guys...this is what i want. I want to know, how much peruvian torch or san pedro i need to ingest in order to feel the full effects and have a day long trip. So.....if i need x grams.....how many 12 inch cuttings would i need for that?

Or if i get that incense...which i now see is the ground up flesh...how many grams would i need for a really good trip? And i mean REALLY GOOD.

[Jimmicrackedcorn]

I told you man I took 30g, if uve ever taken ecstasy it is freakishly like that, even more explosively intense, yet all the more subtle and natural feeling, and no comedown :D:D:D QUITE the fuckin opposite actually, I feel on top of the world. You become completely lost in the moment, ure mind is blank, as tho whatever u r is pressed up to the warped lenses of ure eyes, looking out for the first time. No real CEV's, only daydream type scenarios, detaching you completely from the outside world while u are closing ure eyes, but once you open them you are STUNNED with the brightness and vitality in everything. Touching, dancing, hugging and music all become amazingly vivid, u r completely detached, but completely aware of everything, playing with external stimulus like they're playthings (if u get a woman to play around with during this time, she is in for a treat, u'll explore every inch of that body with the entusiasm of a ten year old on christmas day), and LOVING EVERY FUCKING MINUTE OF IT!!!!!!! and it lasts about 10 hours, then about 8/9 hours of an intense afterglow, followed by a feeling of disbelief that'll stick around for as long as you think about how you truly can't believe it's possible to experience the world like that, it doesn't feel like a drug, it doesn't feel like anything is happening, its the ultimate paradox man, I have nothing to take from it, and nothing to give towards it, holy shit I'm brimming with appreciation (I hate using the word Love cuz it's a bullshit word in my opinion, but this stuff makes you know the true meaning of the word, and it's none of that soppy bollox uve read about man, its pure, unadulterated, blissful, empowerment). HAHAHA!

I should imagine double that dose would giv intricate CEV's maybe OEV's. I've taken peyote before, and it gave all the above physical sensations, with crazy unfolding geometric CEV's, but I got nausea from Peyote, which has probly got sumthin to do with me eating peyote whole, and the peruvian in a tea. You have to boil this shit extensively, I have tried to boil it over the space of an hour with water, lemon juice and a couple of tabs of Vitamin C for increased acidity, but I didn't get a full extract, and the effects were threshold. Another time I boiled 125g with 500ml of lemon juice, 2 60mg's of Vitamin C, and 3 litres of water. I waited for the broth to boil itself down to 600ml, which took around 4 hours, this was split four ways, every participant had the same amount of disbelief for the subtly of it's overwhelming power to inebriate, you have to try it to believe it, Ecstasy doesn't know the meaning of Mescaline :D :thumbsup:
Sorry about that.

[infidel818]

Hey jimmi....I just ordered the powder from that site....how did you make the tea? It seems making a tea has teh best results but you need to be "skilled" at making this tea right.

I prefer not boiling it for fear that it will lower the potency

[Jimmicrackedcorn]

Naaaaa man not at all, the only skill u need is 'Boil to much, Broth SPIIIIIIILL, that BAAAAAAD, heat need go down NOOOOOW' and repeat, the trickiest part is heating the thing up to boiling, then adjusting the temp (which is easy as fuck with gas stove, hotplates take a lil more time to fuck around with) and leave it simmering until it has boiled down to a drinkable amount, oh and it tastes like stomach acid/vomit, so sip that shit man, don't try to be a fuckin hardnut and down it cuz u'll be seeing it in about five minutes, in all its frothy goodness spewing violently from ure mouth/nose, , and then ure left with a stomach acid/vomit smell/taste for the rest of the day, and a waste of 4 hours work. It takes a very long time to take effect, like 2-3 hours, don't expect ANYTHING AT ALL in the first hour. Have sum weed at the ready to pass the time in the departure lounge, cuz once ure up u wonder what the fuck is 'up' exactly. :D

[Jimmicrackedcorn]

Oh the potency thing is no worries, Mescaline has too high of a vapourization temperature to degrade whilst boiling, having a melting point of around 120 degrees centigrade to 130, potency will only be lost if you believe the other slightly psychoactive components of the cactus play a part in the trip, fair enough for peyote, but I don't even know if the other chemical constituents of Peruvian torch degrade at that temperature, and if they have any significant psychoactive effects in isolation, like the other chemicals in Peyote, but take it from me, it worked.

[chronic boom]

strange that I'd see something about peyote today since I just planted four peyote seeds this morning. my friend brought them back from amsterdam and gave me five, but I saved one for way down the road. it's just too bad that they take 10-15 years before they fully mature, but I've heard you develop a special relationship with these little fellas if you take care of them that long.

some say thats what gives you the full on peyote experience.

[too as in also]

i heard that peyote grows wild in north texas

[TheAstronaut]

let me know how this goes after you try it, im also interested... thanks

[highjinx]

iv bin wantin to try san pedro for a while too!
it'd be cool jus havin one growin in your living room! lol

[Jimmicrackedcorn]

Chronic Boom, look up grafting techniques for peyote and the perekiopsis http://www.herbalistics.com.au/shop/product_info.php?cPath=1_21&products_id=241&osCsid=2048f79c776fe66f54ec0c8d9a47b2a0. It's a much more fast growing plant, that doesn't really look like cactus, but it is (succulent), and a place I used to get my peyote from used to do this technique with there seedlings, and the plants would mature within 3/4 years (diameter of at least 3.5 cm), which is about the same length of time you would have to wait for a peruvian or pedro from seed to mature, also you can graft it on to Trichocereus (the genus of peruvian, pedro and bridgesii), but will take longer than the pereskiopsis.

The peyote I got was potent as fuck too, and the reason it takes 10-15 years is due to how long it takes the root to establish itself, if uve ever seen a peyote plant before, there's a tiny head at the top, and underground a fuckin fat carrot like root, which will be about 2-3 times the size of the cactus, the flesh, will grow at about the same rate as any other, but the root takes a long long time to grow, because of how strong it is, plus if you do keep the cacti to grow from seed, when you harvest, take only the green flesh, and leave the root (spray the open cut, with fungicide or it will die) and within a year, u have basically the same size of peyote u had before, so it'll take 15 years for one of em to grow mature, then after that u can harvest every year/other year dependin on ure grow conditions. They are resilient as fuck aswell, I can't see how some1 can kill a cactus, other than overwatering, and that's when usually first time growers panic, and try and treat it like any other household plant, the only time special attention is required, is the first 6 months to a year (and this is pretty much checking for sunburn, which requires you to just move them in to a shady place until the discolouring fades sufficiently), don't overwater, check for bugs (webs over the plant) and while they are seedlings, use a muslin cloth perched just above the cactus for diffused lighting since the sun is to strong for seedlings, get sum chestnut compound (fungicide) to prevent damping off, I had at least 15 from 20 seeds sprout, within a week I had 6 cuz of damping off, basically cuz I didn't know what the fuck was happenin, after that, the trick is to be lazy and let it get on with it :thumbsup:

If you know all that already, u really shouldn't of wasted ure time reading it man :D

[infidel818]

ey jimmi you think boiling the shit.....putting tea in it, sugar, and honey....will make it better or worse?

[Jimmicrackedcorn]

I would say it'd make it worse, mate of mine added sugar to his, and it was fucking horrible, mmmm sweet stomach acid, taaasty! Sip it man, I read about experience with the 60g, sip it for as long as it takes, you're not gonna cheat the mescaline in to comin on any faster, as long as you drink it down within the first 1 hr and 1/2 u shud be good to go, the taste will always be shit, it's the cactus, the stuff has evolved to taste fucking terrible to animals, and we have evolved to recognize it as a fuckin horribly bitter plant, that we shouldn't touch with a bargepole, let alone our tongues. Boil it down to as small a dose as you can (like 50-100ml), and sip it, the thing I can't make my mind up on is, whether it's the cactus thats the rankest part of the drink, or the lemon juice? Luckily I have a glass sittin right next to me :D
Happy Trippin Infidel

[420mory]

So if i get a 12 inch cutting and i eat the whole thing.....would that be good?
There is very little mescaline in those small peyotes. If you want a relativaly cheap souce of mescaline better take a look at the San Pedro. This cacti grow much faster and are therefore cheaper.

Still you need a big piece about 40 cm in length or 1 kg in fresh material.

[yabatab]

Who ever compared a XTC experience to a
peyote one. Are you sure it was peyote you did?
The times ive done it its nothing at all like X. But
people have different effects from it, just depends
on the person as to what you get out of it.

[FireBrand77]

You can find wild peyote in the montains of el paso texas,and new mexico,but you gotta know where to look.PEACE

[Jimmicrackedcorn]

Peyote wasn't like xtc, but peyote wasn't like san pedro either, I said san pedro at a 30g dose is a lot like a very clean roll of ecstasy, when you bunk it up to 60, its nothing like it.