View Full Version : Need help, caught at school...
Captain Hanks
04-03-2006, 10:52 PM
On Thursday, March 30th, I was caught with paraphanelia on campus. It was during my 5th period class when I was out to P.E. when my school advisorer searched my back pack wich I had left outside while we went on a run. I had a glass spoon hidden inside and was susspended for five days with a recommendation of expulsion. Today my princeple informed my parents that they have come to the conclusion that expulsion will take place. After talking to the head of my school he has decided to have a talk with me tomorrow at 7am but to not give our hopes up because expulsion will still most likely take place. Does anyone have any advice on what I should do or say tomorrow that could get me out of this situation? I do not wish to transfer schools and leave all my good buddies behind.
imagoober
04-03-2006, 11:03 PM
i dont believe that the school has the right to search your bag with reason and your consent! so if you got a lawyer you might get back in but it will be a lot of trouble! call a local lawyer and tell him your situation, he should tell you if it can be won and you shouldnt be charged for the consultation. thats about all you can do! or kiss there ass!
NightProwler
04-03-2006, 11:03 PM
tell them you are sooo honestly sorry for bringing paraphanellia on school property. promise it will NEVER EVER happen again, tell them you really really want a second chance and that you will not mess it up.
yea dude, seriousley if they just randomly checked your bag, thats illegal i think.
Oneironaut
04-03-2006, 11:07 PM
I don't know. You give up a lot of your constitutional rights once you step into a school (free speech, right to bear arms, right to assemble...). I bet it was perfectly legal.
d00d989
04-03-2006, 11:31 PM
I'm not sure about that Oneironaut, one time when i was at school, someone gave them an anonymous tip that i had weed in my car, and they still had to call my dad to get permission from him to search my car.
Captain Hanks- call a lawyer and ask!!!
But if it was legal, then at that meeting you need to do some MAJOR ass kissing. Dress up very nicely, and when you go in there be extremely polite, and just tell them you are extremely sorry and it will not ever happen again and you would like another chance to prove you can change.
Smokin EnDo
04-04-2006, 12:24 AM
They are allowed to search any and all property on their property. And for 'dood989' it was because you were under 18, probably, is why they called your dad or it could have been in his name.
tadaa
04-04-2006, 12:28 AM
They are allowed to search any and all property on their property. And for 'dood989' it was because you were under 18, probably, is why they called your dad or it could have been in his name.
No, they aren't.
Number one they aren't law enforecment, they don't have the right to search a godamn thing. They will however expell your ass unless you get a lawyer involved, which should be the first thing you do without even thinking.
Baker420
04-04-2006, 12:30 AM
ok this is how it is at my school...if its in your locker, then they can search ONLY the locker, unless your bag is open and they can see inside. And they cannot search the cars unless something is in visible site without getting in the car. (unless they get an "annonymous" tip or something along those lines)
Actually, my friend was suspended last year because a teacher found out he had bud, so he threw it in some locker, but a teacher saw him do it...he should of just hid it in his back pack.
tadaa
04-04-2006, 12:32 AM
The main problem here is that you will get taken advantage of if you don't know the law. I'm telling you, get a lawyer or you're going to get screwed. Authority has been doing it since the beginning of time, if you don't know the laws you will be taken advantage of.
bedake
04-04-2006, 12:32 AM
call the ACLU
VoidLivesOn
04-04-2006, 12:32 AM
Sounds like no fucking school you wanna be at in the first place.
420ultimatesmokage
04-04-2006, 12:32 AM
they can search anything they want, and if a cop "happens" to be present then they'll place you under arrest.
Baker420
04-04-2006, 12:33 AM
well shit, now a days, a cop is ALWAYS present! haha
tadaa
04-04-2006, 12:34 AM
they can search anything they want, and if a cop "happens" to be present then they'll place you under arrest.
I really hate it when people spout off and post this nonsense, I was in a similar situation in highschool regarding something other than drugs and I got my families attorney involved. What you're saying is wrong, atleast it is in my state. Go to an attorney that knows what they're talking about, not a kid on a internet forum, jesus.
I'm amazed this question is even being asked on a forum. If you stepped on a land mine are you going to ask some people on a internet forum that are 17 years old what to do or are you going to call a demolition expert? Call your lawyer.
420ultimatesmokage
04-04-2006, 12:35 AM
it is true in this state, they can search anything on you and in your locker. they bring cops along in case they find anything.
C4nn4Bliss
04-04-2006, 12:35 AM
im not sure if they themselves can search your belongings because when i got ratted on (dont we all love jr/high school kids:) ) they brought in a badge and he had to be present during the search of my stuff and locker took place. Luckily i had gotten word of the snitch and stashed my bud pipe and switch in my shoe and they didnt check there. Id do what they say and brown nose the shit outta them, tell them that your diploma means alot and you just made a bad choice and are sorry and that you really would appreciate it if they would work with you instead of just booting your ass out(not in those words obviously)
good luck fucko, next time dont bring that shit to school. Learn from this and move on.Smoke joints if u gotta!
tadaa
04-04-2006, 12:36 AM
it is true in this state, they can search anything on you and in your locker. they bring cops along in case they find anything.
And you know this how? My point is this is your opinion, not a fact, there's a big difference.
420ultimatesmokage
04-04-2006, 12:38 AM
i've been told by the administration and the cops, not the best sources but hey im not the one in trouble.
Pete Rock
04-04-2006, 12:39 AM
call the NAACP
I'm not sure where you go to high school, but at mine, they can search you or anything on you including your backpack or locker without your consent. I don't go to a public school so i think i sort of lose my rights at school. But if you are at a public school you might have a case agianst the school.
can someone please tell me the big thrill about bringing weed to school. please i would like to know why so many people feel the need to take that big of a risk to have some weed at school. also, if it is the same as it is for law enforcement, and i have no idea if it is, if you looked stoned at the time, they smelled it on you, you were acting stoned/suspicious, or someone told them you had it, any those would probably be enough, but i still think you have to be made aware of it. fuck at my school they hauled all of us into the gym for an anti drug assembly and just had dogs go around and sniff out all the lockers so theyd be able to search. anyway if they didnt get your permission you should be fine if you were to threaten to sue the school or something.
higher4hockey
04-04-2006, 12:58 AM
Captain Hanks ~ not to be negative or anything, but what on earth where you doing with a pipe in school in the first place ?
davve
04-04-2006, 12:59 AM
dress formally so they think your taking yourself, the situation, and them seriosuly.
hardon
04-04-2006, 01:00 AM
this is why i actually take the time to read the stupid ass handbook every year, to see what sort of rights were taken away this year! every year, theres some new fuckin bullshit that does more to fuck your personal rights over. school is a fucking joke when it comes to your civil rights.
tadaa
04-04-2006, 01:01 AM
I'm not sure where you go to high school, but at mine, they can search you or anything on you including your backpack or locker without your consent. I don't go to a public school so i think i sort of lose my rights at school. But if you are at a public school you might have a case agianst the school.
Just because the teachers say that doesn't make it true. Just because you enter someone elses property doesn't mean you lose your rights, in theory you're ALWAYS on someone else property unless you're in your home.
Based on the logic of some people in this thread a person has zero rights unless they are in their own home.
chronic boom
04-04-2006, 01:06 AM
you guys get fucked in the states!!!!!
that shit wouldn't go anywhere in Canada. If there's laws in your state that let random people access your personal belonings, on their property or otherwise, then I suggest you satrt to question your "freedom".
I agree with tadaa on this one, you should be on the phone with a lawyer not on a forum with a bunch of stoners.
tokerBob
04-04-2006, 01:07 AM
how about this.
um principle...what pipe?
Captain Hanks
04-04-2006, 01:09 AM
Well,
Its a Plant
04-04-2006, 01:13 AM
I do believe that in the state of Illinois it is legal to bring cops and/or police dogs in to search. As suhl said above, at our high school they brought us into the gym while the dogs were sniffing out cars and lockers. Tadaa, don't be so quick to spout off some hasty remark douche. You are right, though, your lawyer is still the proper person to ask. You don't have to be such a dick about it though.
Captain Hanks
04-04-2006, 01:17 AM
I just found out that its legal for my school to perform search and seizures so I assume a lawyer is useless in my situation. Ill guesse tomorrow Ill be doing some serious begging and trying to work with them. Thx for the advice, Ill let you guys know how it goes.
tadaa
04-04-2006, 02:34 AM
I just found out that its legal for my school to perform search and seizures so I assume a lawyer is useless in my situation. Ill guesse tomorrow Ill be doing some serious begging and trying to work with them. Thx for the advice, Ill let you guys know how it goes.
lol, and how exactly did you find this out WITHOUT talking to a lawyer? I think it's funny how you've come to the conclusion that it's legal for the school to search your book bag but you have yet to talk to the only person that knows this for sure, your attorney.
If you didn't hear this from a lawyer you probably heard it from one of the following completely usesless souces:
a parent
a cop
a faculty member at the school
None of which have any clue as to what the law really says, trust me. If they did, there would be no need for criminal lawyers.
Don't get me wrong, you may very well be right, but unless that information came from a lawyer, which it obviously didn't based on your post, you have no idea if it's true or not.
Its a Plant
04-04-2006, 02:40 AM
Well common sense also has to come into play. Serious, if a couple cops come to your school with dogs and do a somewhat thorough search of the whole school, then 9 times out of 10, its not going to take a genius or even lawyer for that matter to know that it's legal. I don't know, maybe your a lawyer and just love their usefullness or something, but I wouldn't want to pay for something when all I had to do was open my eyes to find out.
The Colonel
04-04-2006, 02:53 AM
i think its illegal for them to search your bag without giving them concent.
Fabolous
04-04-2006, 03:12 AM
okay here's the low down on what the schools can search.
1.They can and well search your bag's
2.They Can and well also get into your cars
3.Anything you got they can search
it's a proven fact that your voice or option does not matter in school. I have ask and heard teacher saying to me and other class mates that a student has no rights.
More then likely the school is gonna screw you like they did with me.
for example 2 weeks ago i tried Signing out to a alternative school (With means you can get a High school Diploma, or a GED (Adult Ed as well))
And well they state in their policy once a student is 16yr's old you have every-right to sign up there anytime, well to make a long story short. they denied me with no reason (Even when i ask, they ended up saying they didn't have to tell me)
i have two been search a few times because of people not shutting up when they wonted to go though me to get more weed. (Lucky i was never caught) but they never have to ask a parent or student to be search at any time.
but hey you may get a lucky break. but it seems for me i never get one, always denied, denied, denied :(
tadaa
04-04-2006, 03:15 AM
Well common sense also has to come into play. Serious, if a couple cops come to your school with dogs and do a somewhat thorough search of the whole school, then 9 times out of 10, its not going to take a genius or even lawyer for that matter to know that it's legal. I don't know, maybe your a lawyer and just love their usefullness or something, but I wouldn't want to pay for something when all I had to do was open my eyes to find out.
It wasn't a cop that did the search, read the original post.
tadaa
04-04-2006, 03:16 AM
okay here's the low down on what the schools can search.
1.They can and well search your bag's
2.They Can and well also get into your cars
3.Anything you got they can search
it's a proven fact that your voice or option does not matter in school. I have ask and heard teacher saying to me and other class mates that a student has no rights.
lol, you heard this from a teacher, my argument stands. Last time I checked highschool teachers don't have law degrees.
Zentetsuken
04-04-2006, 03:16 AM
Damn, The Colonel has spoken. It looks like everybody who is smart was wrong.
(I am so high right now)
Fabolous
04-04-2006, 03:19 AM
lol, you heard this from a teacher, my argument stands. Last time I checked highschool teachers don't have law degrees.
basicly my point it the law doesn't stand in schools. if it did, wouldn't you think that you could walk to the bathroom with out having to ask like a little baby?
And this wasn't from just teachers but from like principles and stuff, the list goes on
tadaa
04-04-2006, 03:19 AM
From my experience with the law and the people in my family that practice law I will say one thing and one thing only: If you do not know your rights and the law you will be taken advantage of, period.
tadaa
04-04-2006, 03:20 AM
basicly my point it the law doesn't stand in schools. if it did, wouldn't you think that you could walk to the bathroom with out haveing to ask like a little baby?
So based on your logic a teacher can give a black student an F because he's black. And technically, a teacher can't deny a student the right to use the bathroom, that's a law.
Fabolous
04-04-2006, 03:22 AM
yup, they can.
and what proof would that black student have on saying he doesn't deserve?, all the teacher would have to say is that he was a trouble maker or some made up lie to get outta trouble
Jeff Spicoli
04-04-2006, 03:22 AM
stop trying to defend him. he made a mistake and he's paying for it. that being said, sucks that it happened, but don't bring your shit to school
tadaa
04-04-2006, 03:23 AM
yup, they can.
and what proof would that black student have on saying he doesn't deserve?, all the teacher would have to say is that he was a trouble maker or some made up lie to get outta trouble
How old are you, 13? You honestly think that a teacher has the right to give a black student an F simply because he's black? You have a lot to learn, and I suggest you stop giving childish advise that is pure nonsense.
Fabolous
04-04-2006, 03:27 AM
man you have no idea of what i seen and have been done to, my friend is a prefect example. 99% of his papers here either B's or B+, never really argued with anyone not even the teach, and even got a exam that was graded 82%, and final grade was a D- on the report card.
he ask if it was a mistake. and teacher said they it was no mistake, and the parents came up, bla bla bla. ended up taken to court and shit, and lost
Fabolous
04-04-2006, 03:30 AM
Another one was when my mom saw a teacher abusing a child and reported her to the school, and in the end the teacher was let off freely (Like nothing happen) and my mom was banned from my little brothers school
so i suggest you shut the fuck up, becase you have no idea what you are talkin about
tadaa
04-04-2006, 03:32 AM
man you have no idea of what i seen and have been done to, my friend is a prefect example. 99% of his papers here either B's or B+, never really argued with anyone not even the teach, and even got a exam that was graded 82%, and final grade was a D- on the report card.
he ask if it was a mistake. and teacher said they it was no mistake, and the parents came up, bla bla bla. ended up taken to court and shit, and lost
That has nothing to do with what originally stated. You stated that the law doesn't imply to the inside of schools. So people are free to murder, rape and rob in schools, because, according to you, there is no law inside of schools.
Fabolous
04-04-2006, 03:35 AM
That has nothing to do with what originally stated. You stated that the law doesn't imply to the inside of schools. So people are free to murder, rape and rob in schools, because, according to you, there is no law inside of schools.
MAN LOOK AT THE FACTS, your basically a prisoner in the schools. i suggest you take a closer look inside the schools
Its a Plant
04-04-2006, 03:37 AM
Tadaa, I'm curious as to what you're argument is at this point I cannot even remember. As far as the law goes in school, the law does exist, but honestly most high schools are more of a dictatorship in principle. There are certain by-laws that every school gets around, which allows them to search bags or lockers without consent. All they need is the slightest indication that you may be doing something wrong or illegal, which can either be truthful or made up. Either way, how are you going to prove that a teacher is lying? Faculty have all the right to search student's b/c you are on school property, where the administration makes the rules.
my guess is there is more that you havent told us. clearly they had reason to suspect you were smoking, or did they just pick your shit out at random. you brought a pipe to school, that was your dumbass fault. courts will take the words of a teacher over a teenage stoner any day. and they wont take pity on you for getting high/bringing your shit to school. like i said it was your dumbass fault. i hope you get expelled. there needs to be an example made so you fucking idiots STOP BRINGING YOUR SHIT TO SCHOOL:thumbsup:
Fabolous
04-04-2006, 03:40 AM
Tadaa, I'm curious as to what you're argument is at this point I cannot even remember. As far as the law goes in school, the law does exist, but honestly most high schools are more of a dictatorship in principle. There are certain by-laws that every school gets around, which allows them to search bags or lockers without consent. All they need is the slightest indication that you may be doing something wrong or illegal, which can either be truthful or made up. Either way, how are you going to prove that a teacher is lying? Faculty have all the right to search student's b/c you are on school property, where the administration makes the rules.
Thank you, you basically proved me right (In a different way, but none the less it shows that i was right :dance: )
rico8908
04-04-2006, 03:51 AM
Tadaa- the school takes over as a temporary parent when ur in it. There have been a couple supreme court cases involving a search and seasure without the consent of a girl that they searched. They searched her purse by the way...the court ruled in favor of the school.
Look at the cases and what a law enforcement officer says...he may not know all the laws but he knows enough about hte rules to tell u the truth.
And not every cop is a fucking asshole to you...if ur nice to a school one or just go up and actually TALK to a cop and be polite he will pretty much tell u anything u need to know. But if u dont believe anyone else but what u think actually go look at some of the supreme court cases related to this subject...the school can search who ever and what ever they want as long as its on there property.
how about you tell us why they might have wanted to search your bags in the first place, then maybe ill feel sorry for you, shitstain
soxsuk6432
04-04-2006, 04:06 AM
Although TADAA is being a bit of an asshole about it he has a valid point. Talk to a lawyer. They won't charge you anything if you call the lawyer up and talk to them. Tell them what happened and everything even if you did something you shouldn't have tell them. There may have been something that was done that could ruin they're case against you. It's free you have nothing to lose.
But Fabolous does have a point schools can do pretty much anythign they want. It's fucked up but there's not much you can do about it.
Captain Hanky there is more to the story I am almost 100% sure of it. Teachers just don't search a bookbag at random with no reason. It must have smelled like weed or someone must have told her.
Captain Hanks
04-04-2006, 04:08 AM
suspicion was the only evidence based on rumors of students, but i never smoked on campus, not even in the city my campus is located
420ultimatesmokage
04-04-2006, 04:13 AM
*New Jersey v T.L.O. (1984)
Two students were found smoking in the girls bathroom. One student confessed but the other, T.L.O. (her initials), denied smoking. In fact, T.L.O. claimed she did not smoke at all. The school Assistant Principal then proceeded to search T.L.O.'s purse. In the purse he found Marijuana in small bags, rolling paper, a large amount of cash and a list of names who owed T.L.O. money. The police were summoned and T.L.O. was arrested. T.L.O. was convicted and through the appeals process the case eventually went to the Supreme Court. T.L.O. claimed that the search of her purse violated her Constitutional rights.
The Court ruled against T.L.O. setting new standards for school officials. The Court ruled that school officials may search a student under "reasonable suspicion." The standard is less than that required of police therefore giving school officials much broader search powers under the fourth amendment.
tadaa
04-04-2006, 04:14 AM
Tadaa- the school takes over as a temporary parent when ur in it. There have been a couple supreme court cases involving a search and seasure without the consent of a girl that they searched. They searched her purse by the way...the court ruled in favor of the school.
Keep in mind there are probably plenty of cases in which the judge ruled against the school, it goes both ways. My point is that when it comes to the law, the school is going to try and dictate their own law, unless you do something about it. If you want to be blindly taken advantage of then take the schools word, if you want to know whether they are right or wrong get a lawyer, stand up for yourself man.
Fabolous
04-04-2006, 04:14 AM
that's how it all starts,(with me it did) Rumors where going around because i had the best shit in a rich ass school full of beginner pot heads (so i could say it was Above Mid's but really swagg) and well sooner then you know you got teachers over hearing kids and taken you into there office :rolleyes: lucky for me i had a great spot to hid my shit, my gym locker :dance:
but yea it's always great thing to not go around telling people they you may have just made friends with, and not 100% sure he isn't gonna tell other people that you smoke.
Its a Plant
04-04-2006, 04:32 AM
I hardly think any respectable school will try and "blindly" take advantage of students. There would have been tons of complaints if the school was unfairly doing something like searching their own property. They make it extremely clear in the handbook what the law is, and what happens if one breaks it. Calling a lawyer is good, yes, but not to try and fight a losing cause. Give it up and quit using that as your argument.
tootsie roll
04-04-2006, 04:56 AM
To stay in school, you may have to swollow your pride big time and volunteer to do some kind of rehab.
You have to be upfront about what has happened.
Don't even try to go the route of "I was holding it for somebody" "it's not mine" etc....etc....
It's really up to you how important your education is.
You can be well off in a nice house, able to vacation one day OR you can end up in a rooming house scraping up enough $$ for oodles of noodles.
your choice.
i doubt the court has ruled inn favor of the kids many times, i doubt its gone to court many times, im assuming the parents are normally pissed off at the kid about it and unless they were aware it was going on they wouldnt get you a lawyer and wouldnt let you take it to court
Captain Hanks
04-04-2006, 05:01 AM
its a plant is right, the law states it in the handbook and it was stupid on my part... but is there anything i should bring up tomorrow in my meeting? other than "kissing ass" (no brainer)
tootsie roll
04-04-2006, 05:10 AM
its a plant is right, the law states it in the handbook and it was stupid on my part... but is there anything i should bring up tomorrow in my meeting? other than "kissing ass" (no brainer)
Yeah, I have advice. Read my post up there.
I wish you luck tomorrow.
::::thinking again.....why O why are kids still taking their shit to school??::::::::confused:
Its a Plant
04-04-2006, 05:10 AM
Just be totally passive and calm, only speak when spoken to, and be open to any ideas trying to fix this as neatly as possible. Good luck :thumbsup:
OatWillies420
04-04-2006, 05:11 AM
No, they aren't.
Number one they aren't law enforecment, they don't have the right to search a godamn thing. They will however expell your ass unless you get a lawyer involved, which should be the first thing you do without even thinking.
Can you cite some sources? Schools search all the time, and their right to do so has been upheld in every single court case in the last 50 years. sorry.
OatWillies420
04-04-2006, 05:12 AM
The main problem here is that you will get taken advantage of if you don't know the law. I'm telling you, get a lawyer or you're going to get screwed. Authority has been doing it since the beginning of time, if you don't know the laws you will be taken advantage of.
DUDE: IT'S LEGAL. A lawyer won't help, it will only piss them off.
Ass-kissing is the only way.
Captain Hanks
04-04-2006, 05:17 AM
allright, im gonna get some rest for tomorrow. ill let you guys know how it goes, thanks for the advice
Fabolous
04-04-2006, 05:18 AM
Tadaa thinks that these schools are these perfect places, where nothing bad goes on, and no teacher could ever doing anything wrong.
Now Tadaa lets go back to reality.........
Ahh that sucks... But is paraphinalia illegal too in America? In Enlang seeds are legal, bongs, pipes, bubblers... nothing is illegal apart from the drug itself.
it isnt exactly illegal but if it has weed resin in it at all it becomes illegal, any pipe or tobacco product would definitely not be allowed at any school, and glass pipes arent illegal but they are kind of regulated, like if i had a glass piece in my car even if it was unused i wouldnt want a cop to see it
mojoke
04-04-2006, 01:11 PM
::::thinking again.....why O why are kids still taking their shit to school??::::::::confused:
I bring my shit to school every day. never get caught because i have numerous stash places.
DONT KEEP YOUR SHIT IN YOUR BACKPACK OR LOCKER!!
just go find an empty locker and sling a lock on it
none of these kids has explained WHY they take shit to school. my theory is that they do it to seem cool. i honestly cant think of any other reason. getting high at school is a pointless waste of weed anyway.
tadaa
04-04-2006, 02:59 PM
Can you cite some sources? Schools search all the time, and their right to do so has been upheld in every single court case in the last 50 years. sorry.
It's funny how you ask me to cite sources then you spout off about how every single court decision has gone in the schools favor with nothing to back it up. I was involved in a similar situation in highschool concerning myself and a friend, and my situation was never taken to court because we both got a lawyer involved and it turns out that in my state it was illegal for the school to do what they did. If we would have taken the schools word for it we would have been fucked over.
tadaa
04-04-2006, 02:59 PM
Tadaa thinks that these schools are these perfect places, where nothing bad goes on, and no teacher could ever doing anything wrong.
Are you fucking dumb? I've been saying the EXACT OPPOSITE this entire thread. Honestly, you have to be mentally retarded to post what you just did. I've been saying this entire thread how schools will take advantage of students all the time.
I mean look how stupid most of the people in this thread are. This kids in a situation with the law that could screw up his entire life and everyone is telling him to NOT contact a lawyer, good call:rolleyes:
Captain Hanks
04-04-2006, 03:44 PM
i talked to the head of my school today and he says that he cant gurantee that i wont be expelled after talking to my prinicple but will pray about it for 3 days and let me know, he says he can pretty much gurantee i can return my jr. year, hope i still have a chance, ha
still no one has told me why they feel the need to bring weed or pipes to school, id say my point has been proven.
Fabolous
04-05-2006, 04:02 AM
^^^^^^^
well i had a business basically set up thanks to rich kids that had no idea that was really good and what wasn't.
soxsuk6432
04-05-2006, 04:24 AM
I took weed to school a few times one was because I was selling to a girl and she lived about 3 miles away and I couldn't bum a ride with anyone.
I Bite
04-05-2006, 04:44 AM
On Thursday, March 30th, I was caught with paraphanelia on campus. It was during my 5th period class when I was out to P.E. when my school advisorer searched my back pack wich I had left outside while we went on a run. I had a glass spoon hidden inside and was susspended for five days with a recommendation of expulsion. Today my princeple informed my parents that they have come to the conclusion that expulsion will take place. After talking to the head of my school he has decided to have a talk with me tomorrow at 7am but to not give our hopes up because expulsion will still most likely take place. Does anyone have any advice on what I should do or say tomorrow that could get me out of this situation? I do not wish to transfer schools and leave all my good buddies behind.
If you've never been caught before,can't you say that it was a friends and not yours?
Fabolous
04-05-2006, 04:47 AM
and do you think the schools would belive him?
Do you realise that people say that to much to where it's just a command excuse.
Then if they did belive he would then have to rat on a friend. BTW hey remitted that it was his anyway.
slipknotpsycho
04-05-2006, 05:02 AM
On Thursday, March 30th, I was caught with paraphanelia on campus. It was during my 5th period class when I was out to P.E. when my school advisorer searched my back pack wich I had left outside while we went on a run. I had a glass spoon hidden inside and was susspended for five days with a recommendation of expulsion. Today my princeple informed my parents that they have come to the conclusion that expulsion will take place. After talking to the head of my school he has decided to have a talk with me tomorrow at 7am but to not give our hopes up because expulsion will still most likely take place. Does anyone have any advice on what I should do or say tomorrow that could get me out of this situation? I do not wish to transfer schools and leave all my good buddies behind.
please change your avatar >.< i've had this for a year ; ; i want to be the only one with it..... goddamn you...
kizazz83
04-05-2006, 05:12 AM
the schools can leagly seizue anything from any bag at any time they want, they can walk up to random lockers, and opean them, and if they have to, they cut off the locks.so, what they did was not ieleagle.
Bman719
04-05-2006, 05:32 AM
don't even think about defending your actions. anything on school property is open for inspection...anything! your best bet is kiss ass like you've never kissed before. i was in a similar situation many years ago (over cigs, no less!) and had to bring in outside help to be able to finish my last year of high school and luckily the pastor of my parents' church came to bat for me. and i kissed ass with a lot of sorry's and 'never do it again' and about how valuable that diploma is (it is too) and on and on...i ended up with 2 weeks suspension and detention the rest of the semester but i graduated that following june. i know it's a total ego-buster and a major pile of shit to have to go through that but there are times when kissing ass is the only sensible way out of a bad situation.
good luck man...keep us posted
You said it perfectly. You're on their property, and you lose your constitutional rights when you step on their property. For gods sake, kids have to ask to use the fucking bathrooms. Unfortunately, legally you're fucked, so it's kiss ass time...
Bman719
04-05-2006, 05:35 AM
And you know this how? My point is this is your opinion, not a fact, there's a big difference.
You're a fucking retard. And by your one-sided mind to pretty much every post you mkae, you're never open to being wrong. You need to get YOUR facts straight, all you're doing is making yourself look like a dumbass. 420dopesmoke is correct, and del... is correct as well, quit arguing about shit you know nothing about...
Captain Hanks
04-05-2006, 05:35 AM
please change your avatar >.< i've had this for a year ; ; i want to be the only one with it..... goddamn you...
are you high? you do realize mine is completely different, dont you?:thumbsup:
slipknotpsycho
04-05-2006, 05:38 AM
i realize it is diffrent, but it's still much in the same, i'm not telling you to change it, i'd just appreciate it if you did... just so you know, other then this case if i was asked by you or anyone to change my avatar becuase it is similar to theirs i would... just out of decency, i don't really expect you to, it's more kind of a joke.. >.< still irritating tho, i've been here well over a year, and you're the first person to even come close to my avatar (tho, there is an avatar i used to use on here floating around, a black 'bumpy' [it looks like the leaf and words are raised, that's what i mean by bumpy] pot leave that says marijuana under it)
grinthenbearit
04-05-2006, 06:04 AM
ask your parents for the advice you seek ....nobody can be a more helpful friend than your parents.
KingPhilie
04-05-2006, 06:09 AM
i shall tell you the answer to all your problems, i will even, give such great advice, that if followed properly, no one on this website will ever be caught at school again.
LEAVE YOUR SHIT AT HOME ! ! !! ! DUH ! ! ! ! ! !
school is definatly not worth the risk, nor is your young life, iam not much older, but i got caught at school, and it made my life, very very difficult, help yourself out.
.PEACE.
TheAstronaut
04-05-2006, 06:26 AM
IF you haven't met with your Advisor, principle or whatever yet.. I would like to say i have been in the same situation. When I was in my sophomore year I sold some kid one single joint, the kid got busted with it and ratted me out. The next day they called me down and sat me down in the office with the principle, assistant principle and the school officer which also is a town officer after badgering me and accusing me they searched my bag and found two joints. I ended up being suspended for a whole semester even though i hadn't been in trouble, NOT ONCE for anything but because they scared me into agreeing with them. This F'ed up the rest of high school for me there it caused me to not graduate on time, screwed me on going to college etc. You need to explain to them what a mistake you made and that you know you made this mistake, you are sorry and explain to them the impact it will have on your future I cannot stress enough how much it will throw everything off track by getting suspended or expelled. Think of other alternatives to suspension, offer to take drug class's etc. All i can say is really try man, Good luck.
** let us know how it goes...
tadaa
04-05-2006, 06:43 AM
You're a fucking retard. And by your one-sided mind to pretty much every post you mkae, you're never open to being wrong. You need to get YOUR facts straight, all you're doing is making yourself look like a dumbass. 420dopesmoke is correct, and del... is correct as well, quit arguing about shit you know nothing about...
My only comment was that he should talk to a lawyer, that doesn't mean it's illegal for the school to search him. I said that it varies from state to state. So therefore, I'm 100% right when I said he should talk to a lawyer.
C4nn4Bliss
04-05-2006, 07:09 AM
pop pills at school and save the weed for when you get home.....always worked for me. Painkillers and benzo's always made listening to the teachers and doing homework less painful.
Tadaa is turning this thread into the "real shotguns" thread...the one with the vietnam video...tadaa why dont shut the fuck up already, WHY THE FUCK DO YOU ALWAYS HAVE SO MUCH TO PROVE YOU CUNTRAG SHUT THE FUCK UP!!!
C4nn4Bliss
04-05-2006, 07:10 AM
SOON ENOUGH TADAA WILL FIND A LAW FORUM AND POST THIS QUESTION HERE, I CALLED IT!
Pete Rock
04-05-2006, 07:14 AM
i realize it is diffrent, but it's still much in the same, i'm not telling you to change it, i'd just appreciate it if you did... just so you know, other then this case if i was asked by you or anyone to change my avatar becuase it is similar to theirs i would... just out of decency, i don't really expect you to, it's more kind of a joke.. >.< still irritating tho, i've been here well over a year, and you're the first person to even come close to my avatar (tho, there is an avatar i used to use on here floating around, a black 'bumpy' [it looks like the leaf and words are raised, that's what i mean by bumpy] pot leave that says marijuana under it)
lol everytime i see captaindanks on here i notice the avatar first and think its slipknotpsycho, then i see the names. your avatar got hijacked
LiquidMagik
04-05-2006, 12:37 PM
Sorry just read the first page of posts, but what is wrong with deny deny deny? I mean it was in your backpack sure, but you can't say it isn't yours and someone else might have slipped it in there?
mojoke
04-06-2006, 01:38 AM
Sorry just read the first page of posts, but what is wrong with deny deny deny? I mean it was in your backpack sure, but you can't say it isn't yours and someone else might have slipped it in there?
they'd give him a p test
TheAstronaut
04-06-2006, 02:10 AM
Doesn't matter if its his or not it was in his possession...
Any more news yet?
rico8908
04-06-2006, 02:45 AM
tadaa....everyones attacking u because ur being sooo defensive about waht ur saying. We agree that it wouldnt hurt to contact a lawyer but if u read on page three that one guy showed u the case that went to hte supreme court. That case the school one and it allowed new standards for schools in america. That case is enough evidence to show u that the schools search was not illegal or unconstutional
Damon32
07-22-2006, 08:59 PM
you guys get fucked in the states!!!!!
that shit wouldn't go anywhere in Canada. If there's laws in your state that let random people access your personal belonings, on their property or otherwise, then I suggest you satrt to question your "freedom".
I agree with tadaa on this one, you should be on the phone with a lawyer not on a forum with a bunch of stoners.
I resemble that statement.
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