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paparose
04-03-2006, 07:26 AM
I read an interesting article about using nutes till the last day..The article suggests that as long as you water cure the buds for seven days you can nute the plant till harvest which increases your total yield.

Opinions, comments welcomed

dopeman420
04-03-2006, 11:48 AM
seems like something id experiment with maybe but i think flushing for 3 weeks will always be the way 2 go

Swizzy89304
04-03-2006, 02:12 PM
Whats water curing? Do you stick the Herb in a mason jar with a little bowl of water or something?

smoknjoe
04-03-2006, 05:25 PM
I believe you fill the mason jar with water, so the buds are comlpetely submerged. THC is not water soluble.

Swizzy89304
04-03-2006, 06:55 PM
Sounds to me that water curing will just make your Herb wet. Or do you let it sit without a lid, so the water draws out all the chemicals in the Herb and it just evaporates?

bluntman2006
04-04-2006, 03:30 AM
Sounds to me that water curing will just make your Herb wet. Or do you let it sit without a lid, so the water draws out all the chemicals in the Herb and it just evaporates?i see someone else heard of this

paparose
04-04-2006, 07:37 AM
water cure : submerging buds in a glass tray for seven days, changing water every day...this way buds contain more thc less chlorophyle, taste smoother and better high

Stickyplant
04-04-2006, 02:20 PM
Can you fert with Alaskan fish up until harvest?

Stickyplant
04-05-2006, 11:53 AM
Can you fert with Alaskan fish up until harvest?

Sparrow
04-05-2006, 04:39 PM
Alaska fish has a 5-1-1. Nitrogen is easily washed away so if you flush every three waterings in smaller pots so that they dry out the numbers would really be like a 2-1-1 or 3-1-1 which is fine to flower with. Alaska is mighty tastie aswell

latewood
04-05-2006, 04:46 PM
I read an interesting article about using nutes till the last day..The article suggests that as long as you water cure the buds for seven days you can nute the plant till harvest which increases your total yield.

Opinions, comments welcomedthat is flushing...you nute until the last week then you flush with ph'd water for a week to remove, or let the plant use upm all the rest of the available nutes...

latewood
04-05-2006, 04:48 PM
seems like something id experiment with maybe but i think flushing for 3 weeks will always be the way 2 goyou never flush for 3weeks!:confused:

paparose
04-06-2006, 08:58 AM
that is flushing...you nute until the last week then you flush with ph'd water for a week to remove, or let the plant use upm all the rest of the available nutes...

nope it is not

flushing=flushing which is cutting back the nutes two weeks prior harvesting and giving a nice bath to ladies, 3 times more water is used than the pot size.

water cure= water cure which is submerging the freshly cut buds into water for seven days, changing water every day, this way you get rid of unwanted material such as nutes.....

I still have not heard a good comment/info from you gus...

bump

paparose
04-06-2006, 08:59 AM
that is flushing...you nute until the last week then you flush with ph'd water for a week to remove, or let the plant use upm all the rest of the available nutes...

I am talking about nuting till the last day (harvest day) not the last week

paparose
04-06-2006, 09:13 AM
here is the article
"Recently, a new method of curation has developed called water curing. This method is preferred by people that usually do not have enough time, or simply do not want to wait very long for a finished product. This traditionally involves submersing the buds in water for a period of 7 straight days, while changing the water after each day (generally done by using a cooler with drainage). The buds are then dried (most quickly via a small combi-oven [a few minutes]) and are ready to use. Water curation has an advantage that traditional methods do not. Nutrients can be added to the plants up until they are harvested. The water will flush out harmful chemicals (such as the ones used to feed the plans) as well as proteins, sugers, pigments and some resins. This will also increase the THC to weight ratio upwards of 30%. [3]"

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cannabis_%28drug%29_cultivation

LIP
04-06-2006, 10:37 AM
With water curing you dry the bud, then submerge it in a tray full of water, get a plate or something to hold it down. Change the water everyday for 7-10 days and you'll end up with better tasting, more potent bud. You wont end with as much as you put in, but thats because the water has removed all the stuff you dont wanna be smoking. It makes it more pure, and therefore a smoother smoke :)

latewood
04-06-2006, 06:11 PM
nope it is not

flushing=flushing which is cutting back the nutes two weeks prior harvesting and giving a nice bath to ladies, 3 times more water is used than the pot size.

water cure= water cure which is submerging the freshly cut buds into water for seven days, changing water every day, this way you get rid of unwanted material such as nutes.....

I still have not heard a good comment/info from you gus...

bumpcool...so you were setting us up...lol
You already had an article you read. that's good info. will exp. with a plant.

Who's gus?

Is that you stormcooker?

turtle420
04-06-2006, 09:19 PM
that is flushing...you nute until the last week then you flush with ph'd water for a week to remove, or let the plant use upm all the rest of the available nutes...

nope it is not

flushing=flushing which is cutting back the nutes two weeks prior harvesting and giving a nice bath to ladies, 3 times more water is used than the pot size.
I think LateWood is talking hydro, and you're talking soil.

....

Anyways,... tsk tsk tsk!!!

Did you search the threads???

There's a very cool thread over in the.... ADVANCED SECTION!!! Ding ding ding!!!

About water curing.... some interesting opinions going on over there...

You should check it out... :)

latewood
04-09-2006, 01:01 AM
well, now that I have read the article, I don't see any guarantees...It is a new method.

and here is a different way of water curing.

Q: What's the water curing method?

-- denzil

A: Water curing is done to remove some of the non-psychoactive water soluable substances in herb. While THC isn't soluable in water, things like proteins, sugars, pigments, and some resins are, and when soaked in water, they are removed from the plant. This can reduce the harsh grassy flavor of poor quality weed, and can increase the THC to weight ratio by as much as 30%. To water cure, loosely place fully dried buds into a glass jar and add luke warm water. The buds must be dry before they can be water cured. Be carefull of the temperature of the water you use as well. Though THC isn't soluable in water, hot water releases THC containing oils that rise to the top. Leave the buds submerged for a few hours, drain the water, repeat the process, and re-dry. The final product will be dark in color and should smoke much less harshly.

-- answered by max on 2001-01-23

Now this guy states it "can" help, not that it definitely helps.
It also states the plant has to be "completely dry"...so that is a week or so after you harvest...Nowhere does it state to chop your plants down and stick them in water for a week; In fact it states, that you should soak them a few hours, then change water, re-soak them a few more hours, then dry them.

what kills me Paparose, is that you haven't done this, you just read an article; Yet, you are so adamant that it works.

I am not saying it doesn't work, but I researched Jorge's Indoor bible (so far, I have found no mention of water-curing in any reference material I have) and I am looking thru more books in my library, including 5 years of hightimes to see if anyone "trusted" in the cannabis community feels that this idea is better than truly traditional curing methods.

I always play devil's advocate, and;

another note...I don't know anyone who flushes for 2 or 3 weeks...flushing is done the last week of flower before harvest. soil or hydro.

I would like to try this, but I have the stickiest-gooiest-frosty buds almost ready for flush...No fucking way, I am going to stick them in a tray of water. Not until further proof is presented to change my mind. latewood

paparose you still never answered...who's gus? and, I still believe, you are stormcooker re-visited

dopeman420
04-09-2006, 10:01 AM
you never flush for 3weeks!:confused:
why not ?

latewood
04-09-2006, 05:28 PM
why not ?NO need, why wait 3 weeks for plants that are flushed in 1.
If you guy's don't believe me, then ask Zandor
and if I am proven wrong, I apologize forward, OK?

turtle420
04-09-2006, 07:31 PM
NO need, why wait 3 weeks for plants that are flushed in 1.
If you guy's don't believe me, then ask Zandor
and if I am proven wrong, I apologize forward, OK?
Haha!
If LateWood says it's so... I'll take it to the bank.

3Weeks of flushing???

That's like... 2 extra weeks withOUT food... or production.... ???

paparose
04-10-2006, 07:57 AM
I meant guys, typo, sorry

thanx for the research latewood...it helps...
As u know I am a newb here, eager to learn and share....

take care bro..

dopeman420
04-10-2006, 08:15 AM
NO need, why wait 3 weeks for plants that are flushed in 1.
If you guy's don't believe me, then ask Zandor
and if I am proven wrong, I apologize forward, OK?
well i have done it outdoor before with good results but ive yet to grow indoors so maybe indoors it wood be different

latewood
04-10-2006, 10:40 AM
Hey, I love everybody...I do not mean to be an ASS, it just happens. I am so glad to be able to help. you wouldn't believe how good it feels when someone does a grow after you guided them.

As for the 3 weeks dopeman. I don't know, but I am curious?! Why do you flush for 3 weeks?; even out doors?
Is it because that is how long it take for the fan leaves to yellow and fall off? later, thanks ahead. lw

dopeman420
04-10-2006, 11:01 AM
Hey, I love everybody...I do not mean to be an ASS, it just happens. I am so glad to be able to help. you wouldn't believe how good it feels when someone does a grow after you guided them.

As for the 3 weeks dopeman. I don't know, but I am curious?! Why do you flush for 3 weeks?; even out doors?
Is it because that is how long it take for the fan leaves to yellow and fall off? later, thanks ahead. lw
my one and only outdoor grow i had to use pesticsides towards the end of my crop and had to wait 3 weeks before i could crop and i didnt use any fertilizer for the last 3 weeks and i got very flavoury tasting smooth bud ,not the most poetent but atleast it tasted good, ever since then i figured 3 weeks was good. i probably wouldnt do the same thing indoors but the minimum id flush indoors or outdoor is 2 weeks.

latewood
04-11-2006, 02:54 AM
thanks, for the explanation...

In the end I still believe; You can do almost anything to this plant and it stillwill make you happy, later lw